Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Would be awesome, but can we take this discusion offlist. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: 18 July 2012 15:08 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows can you use dropbox ok? I could send you a version of them that way, the file is about 690MB. Simon - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5140 - Release Date: 07/18/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
sounds great! well worth the time to do it right. Thanks. again. _ From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Darren, Smile Its coming. I just want to make sure this works on a few more machines than mine. However, I have the patch created, and so far so good. I need to write up some documentation before I release it to make sure everyone is clear on what is involved. On 7/17/12, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7308 (20120718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
would be very interested, especially as those Freedom Scientific rat bags have now tied the only available ones to there own software now, which is useless if using window-eyes, and if you want to use them with some games like entombed. would be super interested please! Simon - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, I know, but I don't think Freedom Scientific had much choice in the matter. Nuance, the company that owns the Realspeak voices, has changed the end user license on those voices, and I believe Freedom Scientific had to tie it to their products per the new license agreement the same way Nextup ties their Realspeak voices to Textaloud, Weatheraloud, and Newsaloud. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: would be very interested, especially as those Freedom Scientific rat bags have now tied the only available ones to there own software now, which is useless if using window-eyes, and if you want to use them with some games like entombed. would be super interested please! Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Jacob, Right, it should work with Jaws, but I haven't tried them with a 64-bit copy of Jaws. There may be some technical issues using a 64-bit program like Jaws with a 32-bit voice. So far I've tried them with NVDA, Jim Kitchen's games, and Textaloud and they work O.K. However, I have no way of knowing if Jaws and other programs will work equally well unless I test them. On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
and with nvda with a extension - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
True, but, for example, have some other sapi 5.0 synths on this 64 bit machine that do seem to work alright, but, yes, suppose will still depend on synthesizer to synthesizer - I have tried out speech profiles with both eSpeak and another synths, like one from cereproc, and they seem alright, but, not necessarily as stable as eloquence itself, but anyway... stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Jacob, Right, it should work with Jaws, but I haven't tried them with a 64-bit copy of Jaws. There may be some technical issues using a 64-bit program like Jaws with a 32-bit voice. So far I've tried them with NVDA, Jim Kitchen's games, and Textaloud and they work O.K. However, I have no way of knowing if Jaws and other programs will work equally well unless I test them. On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
can you use dropbox ok? I could send you a version of them that way, the file is about 690MB. Simon - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 July 2012 13:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, That's not what I said. What I said is that the older version of the Realspeak voices are full Sapi 5 voices that will work with Jaws, NVDA, Openbook,games, Textaloud, etc. The newer Realspeak voices available on the Freedom Scientific site only work with Jaws, Openbook, and Magic. That's the difference. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5138 - Release Date: 07/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ben, As I have said before the only way to get the full Sapi 5 Realspeak voices is off the disc that shipped with Openbook 8, Jaws, 8 or, Jaws 9.If you do not have that disc I can't just give you the voices. All I'm going to be giving people is a patch to fix the installer so they can be installed on newer Windows operating systems, but I'm not sharing the voices themselves. Cheers! On 7/18/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: Hang on tom, where do I get the full sapi compatible ones? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, AhemThat would be software piracy. Please take this discussion of sharing the files via Dropbox immediately off list. Thanks. On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: can you use dropbox ok? I could send you a version of them that way, the file is about 690MB. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. On 7/17/2012 12:45 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Valiant, No. That won't work in the case of the Realspeak voices, because I've tried it. It gives you an error about this product is not compatible with 64-bit computers and bombs out of the install. I know exactly what the problem is, and have fixed it. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition to refuse to install on 64-bit operating systems and it refuses weather you are in compatibility mode or not. On 7/18/12, Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, Yes, its absolutely software piracy. It makes no difference if Nuance, Freedom Scientific, etc makes it available or not. The law is the law. It amazes me how many people fail to understand copyright law. It is all rapped up in that end user license agreement you get with your software product. If it says you are not to resell, share, or redistribute the software with a third-party that is exactly what it means. If the company decides to stop selling the product it does not suddenly make it legal to share the software with a third-party. The end user license agreement is still legally enforcible in the United States, Canida, United Kingdom, and wherever else the software was sold. I would agree with many that this sucks, is often unfair, but that is the way copyright law works. Believe me when I say I'm not a fan of copyright law. If I legally could I'd give the software away too. However, as our list attempts to keep everything on the up and up I can not legally just pass on the voices to anyone who wants a copy. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: not really, as they are not technically available any more, so does that really matter? I got mine as a download in the first place, so I am not even passing them on from an original disk either. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
as far as I am concerned, STUFF! THE! STUPID! LAW! also, I didn't get that end user license agreement with my version of the realspeak voices anyway, so therefore, don't consider myself bound by it. Simon - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Simon, Yes, its absolutely software piracy. It makes no difference if Nuance, Freedom Scientific, etc makes it available or not. The law is the law. It amazes me how many people fail to understand copyright law. It is all rapped up in that end user license agreement you get with your software product. If it says you are not to resell, share, or redistribute the software with a third-party that is exactly what it means. If the company decides to stop selling the product it does not suddenly make it legal to share the software with a third-party. The end user license agreement is still legally enforcible in the United States, Canida, United Kingdom, and wherever else the software was sold. I would agree with many that this sucks, is often unfair, but that is the way copyright law works. Believe me when I say I'm not a fan of copyright law. If I legally could I'd give the software away too. However, as our list attempts to keep everything on the up and up I can not legally just pass on the voices to anyone who wants a copy. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: not really, as they are not technically available any more, so does that really matter? I got mine as a download in the first place, so I am not even passing them on from an original disk either. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi. In that case, I appreciate your efforts, and would definitely like to have that patch you mentioned. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.20 portable. On 7/18/2012 12:01 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Valiant, No. That won't work in the case of the Realspeak voices, because I've tried it. It gives you an error about this product is not compatible with 64-bit computers and bombs out of the install. I know exactly what the problem is, and have fixed it. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition to refuse to install on 64-bit operating systems and it refuses weather you are in compatibility mode or not. On 7/18/12, Valiant8086valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. You should also be able to get the voices to install by running the installer in compatibility mode imitating windows xp. I know that's what makes the difference trying to install the ATT voices. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.16 portable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Simon, I understand your feelings, but I'm only the messenger here. I didn't make the laws. :D As far as the license agreement goes unless someone changed the installer you did get the end user license. When you run the Realspeak setup on the second screen you get a license agreement to accept or not. You have to accept it to continue. If you didn't get this screen then you must have a modified installer. If you checked the I Agree checkbox to continue then you legally agreed to be bound by the license. Checking that checkbox is the same as signing it. Cheers! On 7/18/12, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: as far as I am concerned, STUFF! THE! STUPID! LAW! also, I didn't get that end user license agreement with my version of the realspeak voices anyway, so therefore, don't consider myself bound by it. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. _ From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7306 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7307 (20120717) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
While I won't use it until I do have to get a new PC, I think this idea is a good one for those that currently, or in the future, might be interested in just such an animal. Thanks. --- Real Presidents don't apologize for their Country, and Real First Ladies are ALWAYS Proud of their Country! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi tom. thats really cool news. I aquired the files from a friend, and I am sure happy I have them though sadly my friend's system died, and he lost the origional cds with the files on them so if I lose them thats it. I would be interested for a patch though for 64 bit. For one thing, even though I would eventually buy actual voices ivona or something the fact is the only time I use sapi at all its for gaming. I have tried using highquality synths on this 32 bit unit and there are major delays and mispronounciations in the voices. Even so to at least be able to play games would really rock. At 12:45 p.m. 17/07/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Legally, find someone you know that has jaws 8 9 or 10 and doesn't want their cd. Or buy the voices. If not well At 05:49 p.m. 17/07/2012 +0100, you wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 17 July 2012 17:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5136 - Release Date: 07/16/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Tom, Good idea. While I don't have the OS, eventually at some time in the future I will, and that would be beneficial not only to me but others like myself. Good job! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
ey Tom, this is great news. Please ship the patch so that we can use the older voices with Jaws and win 7 in the 64 bit processor world this way please. Many Many thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
One Win7 X64 user here who'd appreciate the patch. Good work sir! Scott On 7/17/12, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, Good idea. While I don't have the OS, eventually at some time in the future I will, and that would be beneficial not only to me but others like myself. Good job! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ben, Sorry, I can't help you there. The only way I can legally do this is if you actually own the Realspeak software disc that shipped with your Freedom Scientific product such as Openbook 8, Jaws 8, Jaws 9, etc. If you don't own the disc or threw it away I can't just zip up the patched disc and voices and give them to you as that would be software piracy. The best I can do is upload a little patch that fixes the Realspeak software installer to allow them to run on 64-bit Windows for people who own the original software media. My goal here isn't to pirate the software, but simply fix the setup so people can use them on new laptop and desktop machines running Windows 7 and Windows 8. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: I don't have the disc, but I want the voices... what do I do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Jacob, I know. Freedom Scientific created a special launch condition in their setup installer to prevent the voices from being installed on a 64-bit computer. I don't know why because once I built a new installer and installed them the voices work fine. You have to configure them via the 32-bit control panel if you want to use them, but that is no big deal. I've got Realspeak Tom working with NVDA on a 64-bit system without issue now. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: I would definitely be interested - have the full CD image of scansoft/realSpeak install already copied to my backup drive, but currently only have it installed inside my windows XP virtual machine, since windows7 64 bit wouldn't run the install. TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Shaun, Same here. Most of the time when I use Sapi voices it is for games like Entombed. When I got my Toshiba I was furious that the Realspeak voices wouldn't install because when I play Entombed I like having Realspeak Daniel. Using Microsoft Anna with Entombed just don't do it for me. Same could be said for a lot of Jim Kitchens games. Realspeak Tom makes a good announcer for Baseball and Football and I quit playing both on my laptop because I absolutely could not, would not, use Anna. So I decided to make the Realspeak voices work. :D Cheers! On 7/17/12, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi tom. thats really cool news. I aquired the files from a friend, and I am sure happy I have them though sadly my friend's system died, and he lost the origional cds with the files on them so if I lose them thats it. I would be interested for a patch though for 64 bit. For one thing, even though I would eventually buy actual voices ivona or something the fact is the only time I use sapi at all its for gaming. I have tried using highquality synths on this 32 bit unit and there are major delays and mispronounciations in the voices. Even so to at least be able to play games would really rock. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
Hi Darren, Smile Its coming. I just want to make sure this works on a few more machines than mine. However, I have the patch created, and so far so good. I need to write up some documentation before I release it to make sure everyone is clear on what is involved. On 7/17/12, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey if you have the patch I would be interested. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
This does interest me a bit. I haven't previously used the voices, but that's mostly because I didn't like them with jaws. I'd certainly like to see how they work in just a gaming environment. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi everyone, I thought I would just send you a quick message on a very interesting development that will effect Windows 7 64-bit users. As many of you know the copy of the Sapi 5 compatible Realspeak voices that shipped with Jaws 8, 9, and 10 will not install on Windows 7. The issue is that Freedom Scientific set a launch condition in the setup installer to fail if running a 64-bit computer, but the voices themselves work fine on Windows 7 if you get passed that error message. So what I've done is built a new Microsoft Setup Installer for the voices, installed them on a 64-bit computer, and am able to use them with NVDA as well as Jim Kitchens games. So the good news is it is possible to use the Sapi 5 compatible version of Tom, Caren, Lee, Daniel, Emily, etc on Windows 7. The bad news is redistributing my setup installer would be technically illegal so I can't just casually redistribute my copy. What I'm thinking of doing here is creating a patch so you could copy your Realspeak disc to your computer, copy my patch over to the setup installer, and run it to install the voices on your system. This would legally cover my backside as I wouldn't redistribute the cab file with the voice data but only the *.msi file which launches the setup. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this patch so they could continue to use the Scansoft Realspeak voices on more modern Windows machines for games, screen readers, etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows
They should work with jaws, under it's setting to make use of sapi synthesizer as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows So they won't work with JAWS? Theyj'll only work with NVA? We can find our old CD-Rom with the god old 32 bit voice on it if you can get them to work in the new 64 bit processor world. Many Many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft Realspeak Voices and 64-bit Windows Hi Ron, No, not the Sapi versions of the Realspeak voices. The only Realspeak voices available from the Freedom Scientific site are the Realspeak Direct voices specifically tied to Jaws and Openbook. Those will not work with games, other screen readers, and third-party programs like Textaloud. That's why I hunted down my Realspeak CD with the Sapi voices on it and began tinkering with the setup program. I want to be able to use those voices on my Windows 7 64-bit machine with NVDA, games, and other programs, and I don't want to pay Nuance a small fortune for the same voices I already have. Cheers! On 7/17/12, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hwy Rom. Isn't the voices out on the HJ web page somewhere? Matt and I are looking for our old disk as well. many many Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
