Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Imbar,

Unfortunately, no on all counts. The fact of the matter is such game
sims are difficult to create given the mount of math and physics
involved, and I don't think just anyone can create such a game unless
they have a higher education than high school. Some people have been
able to play Microsoft Flight Simulator, which doesn't have any combat
in it, but its not exactly 100% accessible either.

For instance,a lot of the guys like Ron who is in to MS Flight
Simulator uses programs like Its Your Plane to add a copilot to the
game that will take off, land, and do other things for you. You might
instruct the copilot to take the plane up to 20,000 feet and it will
do it for you. While this makes the game somewhat accessible, makes it
playable, it doesn't allow you personally to take manual control of
the plane and fly it yourself. So its not exactly 100% accessible if
you are looking for something you can fly on your own.

There are similar problems with Microsoft Train simulator. Some things
are accessible and some things aren't. Its not a full proof 100%
accessible sim. Sometimes it is the miner things like not being able
to keep an eye on the boiler pressure gauge as you are rrolling down
the track that turn out to be big problems for us since we will likely
blow up the boiler without keeping an eye on it etc.

I guess what might be nice to do some day is if someone would take the
source for the open source sims like Flight Gear and modify them with
accessibility support. I've got them installed on Linux and I know
they have Windows versions too. So I imagine if someone were to add
Sapi support and a few other updates they might be accessible. I'd
have to look and see what needs to be done.

Cheers!

On 4/17/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there a flight sim with no combat?

 Is there a train sim?

 A boating sim?

 Cheers,

 Imbar
 Ms Imbar Golt
 im...@netvision.net.il
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Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.

2011-04-18 Thread Imbar Golt

Thanks much.  Would you say things are more accessible on Linux?

Imbar
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Hi Imbar,

Unfortunately, no on all counts. The fact of the matter is such game
sims are difficult to create given the mount of math and physics
involved, and I don't think just anyone can create such a game unless
they have a higher education than high school. Some people have been
able to play Microsoft Flight Simulator, which doesn't have any combat
in it, but its not exactly 100% accessible either.

For instance,a lot of the guys like Ron who is in to MS Flight
Simulator uses programs like Its Your Plane to add a copilot to the
game that will take off, land, and do other things for you. You might
instruct the copilot to take the plane up to 20,000 feet and it will
do it for you. While this makes the game somewhat accessible, makes it
playable, it doesn't allow you personally to take manual control of
the plane and fly it yourself. So its not exactly 100% accessible if
you are looking for something you can fly on your own.

There are similar problems with Microsoft Train simulator. Some things
are accessible and some things aren't. Its not a full proof 100%
accessible sim. Sometimes it is the miner things like not being able
to keep an eye on the boiler pressure gauge as you are rrolling down
the track that turn out to be big problems for us since we will likely
blow up the boiler without keeping an eye on it etc.

I guess what might be nice to do some day is if someone would take the
source for the open source sims like Flight Gear and modify them with
accessibility support. I've got them installed on Linux and I know
they have Windows versions too. So I imagine if someone were to add
Sapi support and a few other updates they might be accessible. I'd
have to look and see what needs to be done.

Cheers!

On 4/17/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote:

Hi,

Is there a flight sim with no combat?

Is there a train sim?

A boating sim?

Cheers,

Imbar
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Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Imbar,

Well, I guess that would all depend on what type of application or
area of accessibility you are asking about. For instance, as far as
games goes there aren't that many accessible games just because nobody
has really developed that many accessible Linux games for us to play.
Although, there are plenty of free text adventures that are accessible
for Linux gamers which does help offset that issue slightly.

However, on the plus side Linux has some huge accessibility advantages
over Windows when it comes to software installation. If you were to
grab a distribution like Vinux you could completely install Linux from
scratch using speech and braille. You can't exactly do that with
Windows.

As far as general accessibility apps like Firefox are more or less the
same as Windows versions. There are a few things that could be
improved such as Orca doesn't have the cool little command to put
links in a list like Jaws and Window-Eyes does, but over all Firefox
is pretty much accessible otherwise.

Same goes for office. Open Office is fairly accessible with Orca for
the most part. At least for what I do. There are things they are
working on improving such as table support etc, but I don't really
notice a huge difference between screen reader accessibility for MS
Office 2007 on Windows and screen reader accessibility with Open
Office 3.3 for Linux.

Cheers!


On 4/18/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote:
 Thanks much.  Would you say things are more accessible on Linux?

 Imbar
 Ms Imbar Golt
 im...@netvision.net.il

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[Audyssey] more sim game questionss.

2011-04-17 Thread Imbar Golt
Hi,

Is there a flight sim with no combat?

Is there a train sim?

A boating sim?

Cheers,

Imbar 
Ms Imbar Golt
im...@netvision.net.il
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