Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-11 Thread Dark
Hi che,

sounds great, I've been waiting for a fully accessible Rpg game ever sinse I 
first discovered audio games, --- let me know if your in need of beta 
testers.

If it is for reference purposes, the 2nd edition players handbook and gm 
handbook would probably be fine. From those two old Cd roms I mentioned, I 
can probably extract a good many of the 2nd ed books, including the ones for 
various specialist classes, though I'd imagine by now they're all available 
online, especially as chronologically, 2nd ed is now two editions back 
(which is why the resources for it are available, being sort of Rping 
abandonware).

good luck with the game.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  ah, thanks for the info there Dark.
  I am contemplating creating an online RPG game for all us blind folks,
 using what I have learned from the multiplayer aspects of Rail Racer.
  I don't see the need to reinvent the wheel as far as character creation,
 combat rules and the like go, so I am hoping to find documentation on how
 the various components work.
  I have some ideas that will make this a very unique and immerssive game
 experience for the blind, where lots of blinks from around the world can
 come together to role play their hearts out.
  This is all in the outlining stages at this point, as I am spending my
 coding time finishing up the final details of Rail Racer, but I am quite
 serious about taking the task on.
  One of the more difficult aspects I foresee is map and quest creation, so
 I plan on making a map generator so folks can create areas of their own 
 that
 can be plugged into the main playable maps.
  From what I have discovered with the online aspects of Rail Racer, this 
 is
 all feasible, and should work quite smoothly on my dedicated server for 
 the
 amount of players I anticipate.
  Anyway, like I say it is just in the planning stages at this point, but I
 will keep you all updated as the ideas and techniques for the game and
 interface solidify.
  Later all,
   Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-11 Thread ian and riggs
hi che i am saying in advance i would like to be a tester for this game 
sounds grate and it would be nice to have one just for us blind people s
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi che,

 sounds great, I've been waiting for a fully accessible Rpg game ever sinse 
 I
 first discovered audio games, --- let me know if your in need of beta
 testers.

 If it is for reference purposes, the 2nd edition players handbook and gm
 handbook would probably be fine. From those two old Cd roms I mentioned, I
 can probably extract a good many of the 2nd ed books, including the ones 
 for
 various specialist classes, though I'd imagine by now they're all 
 available
 online, especially as chronologically, 2nd ed is now two editions back
 (which is why the resources for it are available, being sort of Rping
 abandonware).

 good luck with the game.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  ah, thanks for the info there Dark.
  I am contemplating creating an online RPG game for all us blind folks,
 using what I have learned from the multiplayer aspects of Rail Racer.
  I don't see the need to reinvent the wheel as far as character creation,
 combat rules and the like go, so I am hoping to find documentation on how
 the various components work.
  I have some ideas that will make this a very unique and immerssive game
 experience for the blind, where lots of blinks from around the world can
 come together to role play their hearts out.
  This is all in the outlining stages at this point, as I am spending my
 coding time finishing up the final details of Rail Racer, but I am quite
 serious about taking the task on.
  One of the more difficult aspects I foresee is map and quest creation, 
 so
 I plan on making a map generator so folks can create areas of their own
 that
 can be plugged into the main playable maps.
  From what I have discovered with the online aspects of Rail Racer, this
 is
 all feasible, and should work quite smoothly on my dedicated server for
 the
 amount of players I anticipate.
  Anyway, like I say it is just in the planning stages at this point, but 
 I
 will keep you all updated as the ideas and techniques for the game and
 interface solidify.
  Later all,
   Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-11 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Would certainly be interested in having/obtaining a copy of this.

Ron

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I actually still have a copy of one of the handbooks in its entirety, with
skill and spell lists, character creation, and a bunch of other things in
it. Its pretty huge, and I don't know if its still up for download, but I've
got an archive that has just about everything you'd ever need to know about
DD for those who want/need it.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Che,
The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of 
rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic items, 
and monsters
compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various 
other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this 
material
Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and 
distribute it.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



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From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Che
  Wow, thanks Phil, I really appreciate that.
  I know D and D is up to version 3.5 now, is there any major differences 
with the new stuff?
  Thanks again,
  Che

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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi Che,
 The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of
 rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic 
 items,
 and monsters
 compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various
 other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this
 material
 Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and
 distribute it.
 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

 Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Dark
Hi che, this is something that actually came up recentlyfor me as well, 
sinse I managed to find a group of friends playing the game.

As you probably know, there's the system reference document, 
http://srd.plush.org/ but that's more in the matter of a lot of lists for 
archive purposes than actual rules, and when I joined the game I had to ask 
the Gm to go through the character creation process with me, as I totally 
lacked all the rules for it.

Unfortunately, Wizards of the coast seem to be most draconian about putting 
rules online, this is a particular pest sinse back in the late 90's, they 
did actually release a Cd rom with Ms word coppies of all the player's hand 
books (which i bought and used to play the game a bit).

However, when third edition came out and I wrote a letter to Wizards of the 
coast asking whether they'd considder producing accessible digital copies of 
the rule books I was simply told We have no plans to publish digital copies 
of our books with nothing stated about accessibility.

I do wonder though, sinse DD is an obviously highly accessible game, if 
it'd be worth us contacting wizards in a more formal, game-accessibility 
related sense, -- especially as the chances of getting role play books 
brailled here in the Uk is less than zero, but that's another topic.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:34 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Dark
Hi Phil.

As I said In my reply to che, while the Srd is great as a resource (I've got 
a lot of anticipatory pleasure checking out the spell lists for my Paladin 
of freedom), I didn't find it quite as helpful on the matter of basic 
character creation, or saying what the various terms such as feets, skills 
etc mean.

Of course, this could just be me being dim, or looking at the wrong part, 
though i do wonder, given the highly explicit disclaimer that says the Srd 
doesn't publish char creation rules if these have been missed out somehow.

Certainly, when I joined the DD game the other week, I needed a fair amount 
of stuf explained that I couldn't find in the srd, - though again this 
could just me being dim.

Luckily, the Gm is a very decent bloke and highly experienced, - he also 
owns more rule books than is entirely reasonable, so he didn't particularly 
mind pandering to my lack of information, - or brains.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi Che,
 The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of
 rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic 
 items,
 and monsters
 compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various
 other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this
 material
 Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and
 distribute it.
 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

 Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Che
  ah, thanks for the info there Dark.
  I am contemplating creating an online RPG game for all us blind folks, 
using what I have learned from the multiplayer aspects of Rail Racer.
  I don't see the need to reinvent the wheel as far as character creation, 
combat rules and the like go, so I am hoping to find documentation on how 
the various components work.
  I have some ideas that will make this a very unique and immerssive game 
experience for the blind, where lots of blinks from around the world can 
come together to role play their hearts out.
  This is all in the outlining stages at this point, as I am spending my 
coding time finishing up the final details of Rail Racer, but I am quite 
serious about taking the task on.
  One of the more difficult aspects I foresee is map and quest creation, so 
I plan on making a map generator so folks can create areas of their own that 
can be plugged into the main playable maps.
  From what I have discovered with the online aspects of Rail Racer, this is 
all feasible, and should work quite smoothly on my dedicated server for the 
amount of players I anticipate.
  Anyway, like I say it is just in the planning stages at this point, but I 
will keep you all updated as the ideas and techniques for the game and 
interface solidify.
  Later all,
   Che 


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Che,
If you go to the bottom of that page you can find a zip download of all the 
parts, but if you read them all carefully you will find that you can not 
play D and D totaly with them.
They leave out all the copywrited material including the techniques for 
character creation
You can find the second edition books in English and Russian at
http://www.templeofsnake.narod.ru/stuff2.html
ADD Player's Hand Book
 - phbe.rar, english,
213Kb
ADD Dungeon Master's Guide
 - dmge.rar, english,
210Kb

You also need a tool to uncompress the rar files.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Wow, thanks Phil, I really appreciate that.
  I know D and D is up to version 3.5 now, is there any major differences
 with the new stuff?
  Thanks again,
  Che

 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi Che,
 The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of
 rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic
 items,
 and monsters
 compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various
 other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this
 material
 Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and
 distribute it.
 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

 Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread MissWings
Hi Che.

That online RPG game sounds interesting.  I played DD a few years back, 
but I haven't had much experience with it, so it'd be interesting to try an 
online version and see how it works.  I'm interested in hearing how things 
proceed with it.

MissWings

At 06:18 PM 6/10/2007, Che wrote:

   ah, thanks for the info there Dark.
   I am contemplating creating an online RPG game for all us blind folks,
using what I have learned from the multiplayer aspects of Rail Racer.
   I don't see the need to reinvent the wheel as far as character creation,
combat rules and the like go, so I am hoping to find documentation on how
the various components work.
   I have some ideas that will make this a very unique and immerssive game
experience for the blind, where lots of blinks from around the world can
come together to role play their hearts out.
   This is all in the outlining stages at this point, as I am spending my
coding time finishing up the final details of Rail Racer, but I am quite
serious about taking the task on.
   One of the more difficult aspects I foresee is map and quest creation, so
I plan on making a map generator so folks can create areas of their own that
can be plugged into the main playable maps.
   From what I have discovered with the online aspects of Rail Racer, this is
all feasible, and should work quite smoothly on my dedicated server for the
amount of players I anticipate.
   Anyway, like I say it is just in the planning stages at this point, but I
will keep you all updated as the ideas and techniques for the game and
interface solidify.
   Later all,
Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Shadow Dragon
I actually still have a copy of one of the handbooks in its entirety, with 
skill and spell lists, character creation, and a bunch of other things in 
it. Its pretty huge, and I don't know if its still up for download, but I've 
got an archive that has just about everything you'd ever need to know about 
DD for those who want/need it.
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread Shadow Dragon
Yeah, my bad, this is what I have downloaded. Ignore my previous post.
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi Che,
 The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of
 rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic 
 items,
 and monsters
 compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various
 other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this
 material
 Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and
 distribute it.
 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

 Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D

2007-06-10 Thread ian and riggs
i would love to play d and d never played before.
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 Hi Phil.

 As I said In my reply to che, while the Srd is great as a resource (I've 
 got
 a lot of anticipatory pleasure checking out the spell lists for my Paladin
 of freedom), I didn't find it quite as helpful on the matter of basic
 character creation, or saying what the various terms such as feets, skills
 etc mean.

 Of course, this could just be me being dim, or looking at the wrong part,
 though i do wonder, given the highly explicit disclaimer that says the Srd
 doesn't publish char creation rules if these have been missed out somehow.

 Certainly, when I joined the DD game the other week, I needed a fair 
 amount
 of stuf explained that I couldn't find in the srd, - though again this
 could just me being dim.

 Luckily, the Gm is a very decent bloke and highly experienced, - he 
 also
 owns more rule books than is entirely reasonable, so he didn't 
 particularly
 mind pandering to my lack of information, - or brains.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


 Hi Che,
 The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of
 rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic
 items,
 and monsters
 compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons  Dragons and various
 other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this
 material
 Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and
 distribute it.
 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

 Download the Sections of the System Reference Document



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Looking for rules for D and D


  Hi all,
  Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of the rules and/or
 handbooks for Dungeons and Dragons?  Specificallly I am looking for the
 rules for character creation, and how spells and fighting are handled.
  Thanks,
  Che


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