subject:"Re\: \[Audyssey\] Strip War"

Hi Lindsay,

Strip War is an adult card game where you can choose a game of Strip
Blackjack, Strip Poker, or Strip War and the object of the game is to
get all the other players naked. The last man or woman standing with
some clothing is the winner.

HTH

On 5/31/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote:
 What is Strip War?

 Lindsay Cowell

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Shaun,

That may be, but let's think of a constructive way to help Jim out
besides rewriting all his games  in something else other than VB 6. I
agree we as a community really do need to move away from legacy
programming languages and technologies long term, but for the moment
there are things we can do to help Jim make his games more compatible
with newer operating systems besides a complete rewrite. Having Jim
save log files, games, etc to the user's documents folder is one way
of fixing some issues with UAC without rewriting each and every game
from scratch.

Cheers!

On 5/31/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 well to be truthfull I don't care in general we really need to find a
 way away from legacy things like vb6 because everything will
 eventually not work.
 ok, ok if those that know know what  files were active in the support
 of the legacy languages I guess it would be possible to install it but
 still.
 having the winzip sfx files well you could argue about all that.
 Anyway, you wouldn't need any complex innosetup scripts for
 everything, the main installer and the rest well.
 how I'd invision it working are the games in some type of module file
 and then installing them.
 right now with xp vista and 7 its probably ok and 8 to but eventually well.
 Most of the innosetups stuff is made by the wizzard you can compile
 the basic script yourself no issue via the menus, for a dev you only
 need to add in extra stuff you don't really need to write the entire
 stuff since 99% of all programming is done by the wizzard.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Lisa,

I will think about adding a save game option to Strip War.  It's just kind of a 
simple game and I didn't really think that people would want a save game 
option.  Like I said, I will think about it though.

Have a good one.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Thomas,

Thank you very much for the offer to write me up some Inno script files.  If 
you find the time I wouldn't mind looking at them to see if I can get the gist 
of it all.  Although, I'm Not sure I am ready at this time to take down my 
winkit.zip file as it has come in handy for those who need the VB6 run time 
libraries installed.

Thanks again.

BFN

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I'm amazed, that it works at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Thomas,

Thank you, maybe some would not say that I am weird, but I'm sure that other's might
argue with you. grin

You know when I started teaching myself programming variable names were limited
to two characters. And there was no hard or floppy drive available for that
computer. I had to buy a cable to connect it to a cassette tape recorder. I
did learn hexadecimal code so that I could define the eight by eight grid block
ASCII character sets and then put those blocks on the screen so as to draw
things. That was fun, but it is so much more fun now to be able to play and
move multiple sound files, use the text to speech engine etc. Do wish though
that I had better math skills etc...

Right now I on the desk top press c and enter, cm and enter, d and enter. C is
my short cut icon to the command prompt. Cm changes to my mail archive folder.
D does, dir /-n /od. So at the bottom of the screen it reads;

thomaswa txt 1,499,790 05/31/2013 10:27 AM
4547 File(s)264,731,769 bytes
2 Dir(s) 18,240,888,832 bytes free
C:\mailarch

So that is one of the mail archive files that I have for you. And that is the last file written to that folder because I am writing to you and it first archived what you wrote. I do that some times to see if a person that I am responding to has written me before. Instead of cm above, I type gobas and see at the bottom of the screen the last files that I worked on in
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98

I just like seeing the file name, size, date and time.

I guess that I just have never liked the way that Windows lists files better
than the way that dos did. Some times though I do use /w or /b or do not use
the /-n with the dir command so as to see the full long names of files.

Better say sorry for such a long rambling post.

BFN

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I remember when I used to peek and poke.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-31 Thread Lisa Hayes


Thanks Jim i'm loving your games.
Lisa Hayes




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From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net

To: Lisa Hayes Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Lisa,

I will think about adding a save game option to Strip War.  It's just kind 
of a simple game and I didn't really think that people would want a save 
game option.  Like I said, I will think about it though.


Have a good one.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Sounds to me like you are a tried and true Dos fan. While I grew up
with Dos in the 80's and early90's I still prefer the ease of use of
the Windows GUI as I don't have to type various commands like cls,
del, dir, and so on. However, as I said before I think this is
personal preference.

I know, for example, there are some people on the Linux Speakup
mailing list that do not use Gnome and the other graphical desktops
for exactly the same reasons. Many of them started out in MS Dos and
then switched to the Linux command line because it offered them an
environment they were comfortible with such as typing ls to list the
files in a directory, cp to copy a file, mv to move a file, rm to
delete/remove a file, etc. If asked they would say that text based
apps like the Nano text editor, the Lynx web browser, media players
like mpg123 were easier to use than their graphical counterparts.
While I might disagree with them it really comes down to their
personal preference and what they are use to.

Bottom line, I don't think such people are weird just different. I
think the same of your use of old Dos bat files etc. You aren't weird
just different.

Cheers!

On 5/31/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 Thank you, maybe some would not say that I am weird, but I'm sure that
 other's might argue with you. grin

 You know when I started teaching myself programming variable names were
 limited to two characters.  And there was no hard or floppy drive available
 for that computer.  I had to buy a cable to connect it to a cassette tape
 recorder.  I did learn hexadecimal code so that I could define the eight by
 eight grid block ASCII character sets and then put those blocks on the
 screen so as to draw things.  That was fun, but it is so much more fun now
 to be able to play and move multiple sound files, use the text to speech
 engine etc.  Do wish though that I had better math skills etc...

 Right now I on the desk top press c and enter, cm and enter, d and enter.  C
 is my short cut icon to the command prompt.  Cm changes to my mail archive
 folder. D does, dir /-n /od.  So at the bottom of the screen it reads;

 thomaswa txt  1,499,790 05/31/2013  10:27 AM
 4547 File(s)264,731,769 bytes
2 Dir(s)  18,240,888,832 bytes free
 C:\mailarch

 So that is one of the mail archive files that I have for you.  And that is
 the last file written to that folder because I am writing to you and it
 first archived what you wrote.  I do that some times to see if a person that
 I am responding to has written me before.  Instead of cm above, I type gobas
 and see at the bottom of the screen the last files that I worked on in
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98
 I just like seeing the file name, size, date and time.

 I guess that I just have never liked the way that Windows lists files better
 than the way that dos did.  Some times though I do use /w or /b or do not
 use the /-n with the dir command so as to see the full long names of files.

 Better say sorry for such a long rambling post.

 BFN

  Jim

 I remember when I used to peek and poke.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Well, I for one would like a save game option for Strip War. I was
very disappointed a couple of times I had to exit the game to do other
things and there was no way to save my progress.

On 5/31/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Lisa,

 I will think about adding a save game option to Strip War.  It's just kind
 of a simple game and I didn't really think that people would want a save
 game option.  Like I said, I will think about it though.

 Have a good one.

 BFN

  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-31 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm I like the ease of the windows gui especially the xp gui, the 7 
gui is fine the 8 gui is a bit of a squeez but I guess I could manage it.

yeah I am still a dos boy at heart.

At 08:20 AM 6/1/2013, you wrote:

Hi Jim,

Sounds to me like you are a tried and true Dos fan. While I grew up
with Dos in the 80's and early90's I still prefer the ease of use of
the Windows GUI as I don't have to type various commands like cls,
del, dir, and so on. However, as I said before I think this is
personal preference.

I know, for example, there are some people on the Linux Speakup
mailing list that do not use Gnome and the other graphical desktops
for exactly the same reasons. Many of them started out in MS Dos and
then switched to the Linux command line because it offered them an
environment they were comfortible with such as typing ls to list the
files in a directory, cp to copy a file, mv to move a file, rm to
delete/remove a file, etc. If asked they would say that text based
apps like the Nano text editor, the Lynx web browser, media players
like mpg123 were easier to use than their graphical counterparts.
While I might disagree with them it really comes down to their
personal preference and what they are use to.

Bottom line, I don't think such people are weird just different. I
think the same of your use of old Dos bat files etc. You aren't weird
just different.

Cheers!

On 5/31/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 Thank you, maybe some would not say that I am weird, but I'm sure that
 other's might argue with you. grin

 You know when I started teaching myself programming variable names were
 limited to two characters.  And there was no hard or floppy drive available
 for that computer.  I had to buy a cable to connect it to a cassette tape
 recorder.  I did learn hexadecimal code so that I could define the eight by
 eight grid block ASCII character sets and then put those blocks on the
 screen so as to draw things.  That was fun, but it is so much more fun now
 to be able to play and move multiple sound files, use the text to speech
 engine etc.  Do wish though that I had better math skills etc...

 Right now I on the desk top press c and enter, cm and enter, d 
and enter.  C

 is my short cut icon to the command prompt.  Cm changes to my mail archive
 folder. D does, dir /-n /od.  So at the bottom of the screen it reads;

 thomaswa txt  1,499,790 05/31/2013  10:27 AM
 4547 File(s)264,731,769 bytes
2 Dir(s)  18,240,888,832 bytes free
 C:\mailarch

 So that is one of the mail archive files that I have for you.  And that is
 the last file written to that folder because I am writing to you and it
 first archived what you wrote.  I do that some times to see if a 
person that
 I am responding to has written me before.  Instead of cm above, I 
type gobas

 and see at the bottom of the screen the last files that I worked on in
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98
 I just like seeing the file name, size, date and time.

 I guess that I just have never liked the way that Windows lists 
files better

 than the way that dos did.  Some times though I do use /w or /b or do not
 use the /-n with the dir command so as to see the full long names of files.

 Better say sorry for such a long rambling post.

 BFN

  Jim

 I remember when I used to peek and poke.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Lisa,

Thank you very much.  You know that I love hearing that from so many friends 
like you.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Thomas,

I think that my favorite part of the Windows GUI, is the, desk top.  You know 
just press a letter or number to run a program or do something.  Of course I 
did the same thing in dos with a batch file or series of batch files.

I do find the Windows find feature very useful, you know to find a file on a 
drive and or specific path on a drive.

And batch files do cut way down on the repetitive typing for doing command 
prompt type tasks.

Guess that I do like to use a combination of the GUI, and the command prompt.

So I would be very disappointed if they ever took the command prompt and batch 
files away from me.

BFN

Jim

If you redo a batch file, does it become a son of a batch

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Thomas,

Ok, like I told Lisa, I will think about a save feature for Strip War.  Right 
now I am thinking that I will need to have like 6 different save subs for 
saving and 6 subs for resuming as there are basically 6 different games in the 
Strip War package.  Maybe if I think about it some more I may be able to 
simplify it all.

BFN

Jim

I'd love to poke her in box.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Oh, I love the Windows search features. Especially, in Windows 7 and
Windows 8 as it is actually better than prior versions of Windows like
XP.

For example, I can just open the start menu with control+escape, type
notepad into the search field, press enter and load notepad without
even going through the Start Menu to launch the program. Any file or
program I want to run just type it into Windows Search and Windows
runs it.

Of course, in Windows 8 with its all new Metro interface there is no
Start Menu and the Start Screen is a bit confusing for a new user. So
the Windows Search feature especially comes in handy. Instead of
hunting through the icons i the Start Screen you can just type the
name of a file, icon, or program into the Start Screen and Windows
will display a list of matches or load the default program etc. So
Windows Search is awesome.

Although, the desktop is something I miss in Windows 8. In prior
versions of Windows you could copy icons etc to your desktop, but in
Windows 8 the desktop is nothing more than a place to display your
pictures. In other words for a visually impaired user the desktop in
Windows 8 is pretty much useless, and now the equivalent to using the
desktop is pinning apps to your Taskbar.

The Command Prompt is still around, but there are restrictions on what
files and folders you can access based on user permissions. If you
load cmd with full admin rights you canaccess just about anything, but
if not then you will get an error to the effect you don't have the
proper permissions to access x, y, or z.

Cheers!

On 5/31/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 I think that my favorite part of the Windows GUI, is the, desk top.  You
 know just press a letter or number to run a program or do something.  Of
 course I did the same thing in dos with a batch file or series of batch
 files.

 I do find the Windows find feature very useful, you know to find a file on a
 drive and or specific path on a drive.

 And batch files do cut way down on the repetitive typing for doing command
 prompt type tasks.

 Guess that I do like to use a combination of the GUI, and the command
 prompt.

 So I would be very disappointed if they ever took the command prompt and
 batch files away from me.

 BFN

  Jim

 If you redo a batch file, does it become a son of a batch

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-31 Thread Lisa Hayes

And i love baseball and monopoly and all of them.  PUppy one rocks. Or is 
that flies, grin.

Lisa Hayes




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- Original Message - 
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net

To: Lisa Hayes Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Lisa,

Thank you very much.  You know that I love hearing that from so many 
friends like you.


BFN

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Thanks Jim i'm loving your games.
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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Curt,

Cool, thanks for letting me know that I got the black jack comments toggle 
fixed.

Have fun.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths program.  
But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having my games write their 
text files to the documents\kitchensinc folder, not installing the games.

Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, XP, Vista, 7 
and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work for them all, lets see, I 
would need to start with winkit to install the game menu system and then change 
all of my games all at once to go to the new, game menu system folder.  When I 
started the whole game menu system thing, one thing that it did was to save me 
at least a meg per game install as the self extracting zip files do not include 
all of the files that the winkit install does.  And I do very much still like 
all of my games under one game menu launcher system thing.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Dakotah,

Sorry, the new file went from winswar3.exe to winswar4.exe.  And you should be 
able to find the winswar4.exe file on my free adult windows sapi5 text to 
speech games page.

HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Lisa Hayes


JIm i love strip war it's good.
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To: Dakotah Rickard Gamers@audyssey.org
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Dakotah,

Sorry, the new file went from winswar3.exe to winswar4.exe.  And you 
should be able to find the winswar4.exe file on my free adult windows 
sapi5 text to speech games page.


HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Phil Vlasak


Hi Jim,
I thought you were going to move all your games to be inside the documents 
folder under kitchensinc, so that is what I did.
I moved all your files in that folder and by editing the kitchens inc games 
item in my programs list to point to the correct place, all of them play 
fine in that folder.
I know it would take lots of re-writing your installers to get all of your 
games to install there but it might help in the long run.

Phil

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To: Phil Vlasak Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths 
program.  But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having my 
games write their text files to the documents\kitchensinc folder, not 
installing the games.


Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, XP, 
Vista, 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work for them 
all, lets see, I would need to start with winkit to install the game menu 
system and then change all of my games all at once to go to the new, game 
menu system folder.  When I started the whole game menu system thing, one 
thing that it did was to save me at least a meg per game install as the 
self extracting zip files do not include all of the files that the winkit 
install does.  And I do very much still like all of my games under one 
game menu launcher system thing.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Trouble

Using something like winzip as a extractor would just be a change in 
parameters. no VB code would be effected at all, because it doesn't 
handle the install.


At 07:41 AM 5/30/2013, you wrote:

Hi Jim,
I thought you were going to move all your games to be inside the 
documents folder under kitchensinc, so that is what I did.
I moved all your files in that folder and by editing the kitchens 
inc games item in my programs list to point to the correct place, 
all of them play fine in that folder.
I know it would take lots of re-writing your installers to get all 
of your games to install there but it might help in the long run.

Phil

- Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: Phil Vlasak Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths 
program.  But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having 
my games write their text files to the documents\kitchensinc 
folder, not installing the games.


Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, 
XP, Vista, 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work 
for them all, lets see, I would need to start with winkit to 
install the game menu system and then change all of my games all at 
once to go to the new, game menu system folder.  When I started the 
whole game menu system thing, one thing that it did was to save me 
at least a meg per game install as the self extracting zip files do 
not include all of the files that the winkit install does.  And I 
do very much still like all of my games under one game menu 
launcher system thing.


BFN

Jim

Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket.

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Trouble

The game launcher with the menu would be the only change. All the 
rest are just executable zip files no code.


At 06:04 AM 5/30/2013, you wrote:

Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths 
program.  But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having 
my games write their text files to the documents\kitchensinc folder, 
not installing the games.


Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, 
XP, Vista, 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work 
for them all, lets see, I would need to start with winkit to install 
the game menu system and then change all of my games all at once to 
go to the new, game menu system folder.  When I started the whole 
game menu system thing, one thing that it did was to save me at 
least a meg per game install as the self extracting zip files do not 
include all of the files that the winkit install does.  And I do 
very much still like all of my games under one game menu launcher system thing.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim and all,

I can answer that question. Generally speaking on all 32-bit versions
of Windows your programs would go in a folder like
c:\Program Files\Kitchensinc
and all yourdata files would go in a place like
c:\Documents and Settings\User Name\App Data\Kitchensinc.

However, on newer 64-bit versions of Windows such as Vista, Windows 7,
and Windows 8 those paths are totally different. Older 32-bit programs
go in
c:\Program Files (x86)\Kitchensinc
while the data for themshould go in
c:\Users\User Name\App Data\Kitchensinc.

That said, you can do what I do and just install the games locally in
a folder like
c:\Users\User Name\Kitchensinc
which will make them UAC compliant, and user specific just by
installing them locally rather than system wide. Its a hack, of
course, but works. :D


On 5/30/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Phil,

 Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths program.
  But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having my games write
 their text files to the documents\kitchensinc folder, not installing the
 games.

 Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, XP, Vista,
 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work for them all, lets
 see, I would need to start with winkit to install the game menu system and
 then change all of my games all at once to go to the new, game menu system
 folder.  When I started the whole game menu system thing, one thing that it
 did was to save me at least a meg per game install as the self extracting
 zip files do not include all of the files that the winkit install does.  And
 I do very much still like all of my games under one game menu launcher
 system thing.

 BFN

  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Curt Taubert

I do too. And, I like it allot better sence you can find the log file in 
the documents folder.

On 5/30/2013 5:29 AM, Lisa Hayes wrote:

JIm i love strip war it's good.
Lisa Hayes




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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Dakotah,

Sorry, the new file went from winswar3.exe to winswar4.exe. And you 
should be able to find the winswar4.exe file on my free adult windows 
sapi5 text to speech games page.


HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread shaun everiss


yeah I use 7zip
I didn't care for winzip's registration system having to basically 
buy another version every time you upgraded!
for a while I cracked it but  after I started using other networks 
for admin and the ribbons in winzip came along I realised that it was 
becoming tiresum.

I had to 1 get wizip from a torrent or the download.
2.  find a cradck serial.
3.  load it.
by chance people someone anyway recomended 7zip and I don't know why 
I even used winzip now.
its free and fast and to be honest if you are going to use an 
extracter in anything 7zip has the speed it can also create a few 
filetypes for different oses including linux rpm and tarball gzip packages.
its cross platform and small and can run on just about any os in 
existance even win98-95 and probably earlier.


At 12:51 AM 5/31/2013, you wrote:
Using something like winzip as a extractor would just be a change in 
parameters. no VB code would be effected at all, because it doesn't 
handle the install.


At 07:41 AM 5/30/2013, you wrote:

Hi Jim,
I thought you were going to move all your games to be inside the 
documents folder under kitchensinc, so that is what I did.
I moved all your files in that folder and by editing the kitchens 
inc games item in my programs list to point to the correct place, 
all of them play fine in that folder.
I know it would take lots of re-writing your installers to get all 
of your games to install there but it might help in the long run.

Phil

- Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: Phil Vlasak Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little 
newpaths program.  But the code, and newpaths, program were just 
for having my games write their text files to the 
documents\kitchensinc folder, not installing the games.


Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, 
XP, Vista, 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work 
for them all, lets see, I would need to start with winkit to 
install the game menu system and then change all of my games all 
at once to go to the new, game menu system folder.  When I started 
the whole game menu system thing, one thing that it did was to 
save me at least a meg per game install as the self extracting zip 
files do not include all of the files that the winkit install 
does.  And I do very much still like all of my games under one 
game menu launcher system thing.


BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread shaun everiss

well to be honest I guess you could have all the kitchensinc games 
the main installers be innosetup as that is fast to and everything be 
its own innosetup file but then would you want to?


At 12:54 AM 5/31/2013, you wrote:
The game launcher with the menu would be the only change. All the 
rest are just executable zip files no code.


At 06:04 AM 5/30/2013, you wrote:

Hi Phil,

Again I thank you for the code and for testing that little newpaths 
program.  But the code, and newpaths, program were just for having 
my games write their text files to the documents\kitchensinc 
folder, not installing the games.


Truthfully I don't even know where games should go in Windows 98, 
XP, Vista, 7 and 8.  And if there is an installer that would work 
for them all, lets see, I would need to start with winkit to 
install the game menu system and then change all of my games all at 
once to go to the new, game menu system folder.  When I started the 
whole game menu system thing, one thing that it did was to save me 
at least a meg per game install as the self extracting zip files do 
not include all of the files that the winkit install does.  And I 
do very much still like all of my games under one game menu 
launcher system thing.


BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Shaun,

To be honest I think it would be better if Jimscrapped the Winzip
self-extractor stuff and switched over to Inno Setup 5. Just my
opinion of course.

On 5/30/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 well to be honest I guess you could have all the kitchensinc games
 the main installers be innosetup as that is fast to and everything be
 its own innosetup file but then would you want to?


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Hi Lisa,

Cool, thank you very much for saying so.

Have fun.

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JIm i love strip war it's good.
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Trouble,

I just tried creating a WinZip self extracting zip file with the default unzip 
folder as %appdata%\kitchensinc.  It did not put it in my documents and 
settings\jim kitchen\application data\kitchensinc.  It created and put the 
files in c:\%appdata%\kitchensinc.  So at least the version of WinZip self 
extractor that I bought will not work.

BFN

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Hi Phil,

Guess that I am still thinking about it.  I mean the first thing that I would 
need to do is to make a new install of my winkit.  You know so that it still 
installed the VB6 run time libraries, the sapi dll etc.  But install the game 
menu program to the c:\users\your name folder or whatever it is for that 
version of Windows.  And then probably buy the new program that makes WinZip 
self extracting zip files if it can unzip to something like %appdata% or what 
ever would put the files in the same folder as the new winkit install did.

BFN

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Hi Thomas,

Thank you.  I just wonder if there is an installer that would replace my winkit 
and do all that it does plus install my game menu and game of life to where you 
said that it belongs and then have self extracting zip files that would also be 
able to find that folder.

But I thought that having the games write their files to documents\kitchensinc 
would allow the games to run no matter where they were installed since I was 
told that Windows does not let them be written to program files\kitchensinc.

Thanks again.

BFN

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Hi Jim and all,

I can answer that question. Generally speaking on all 32-bit versions
of Windows your programs would go in a folder like
c:\Program Files\Kitchensinc
and all yourdata files would go in a place like
c:\Documents and Settings\User Name\App Data\Kitchensinc.

However, on newer 64-bit versions of Windows such as Vista, Windows 7,
and Windows 8 those paths are totally different. Older 32-bit programs
go in
c:\Program Files (x86)\Kitchensinc
while the data for themshould go in
c:\Users\User Name\App Data\Kitchensinc.

That said, you can do what I do and just install the games locally in
a folder like
c:\Users\User Name\Kitchensinc
which will make them UAC compliant, and user specific just by
installing them locally rather than system wide. Its a hack, of
course, but works. :D


Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War


Hi Curt,

Thank you very much for saying so.

You know, I am like really old.  I do not like using the my documents, my 
computer or Windows Explorer.  The XP find feature works better for me.  You 
know as long as the folder that you want to search is not to deep.  But way 
more often I use the command prompt.  Again it is a pain if the folder is many 
folders deep or has convoluted names.  But in that case, if I think that I will 
want to go there again, I make a batch file to do that.  And then I have batch 
files that lists the folder in the format that I want at the time.  You know 
like the old eight by three file name format, then size, and then date.  And 
list by size or date etc.  For me that is just faster and easier and gives me 
the information that I am looking for.  Guess that I am just old and weird like 
that.

BFN

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I do too. And, I like it allot better sence you can find the log file in 
the documents folder.


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Hi Thomas,

I once tried to use the inno set up program.  I was not able to figure out how 
to make it do what the WinKit setup does or even just extract the game files to 
the kitchensinc folder like the WinZip self extracting files do.

I'm just not to good at figuring out some things.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Well, if you want me to write some sample scripts for Inno Setup I
can. That's what I use for all of my projects and its actually quite
simple once you have some samples to look at and modify as needed.

Cheers!

On 5/30/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 I once tried to use the inno set up program.  I was not able to figure out
 how to make it do what the WinKit setup does or even just extract the game
 files to the kitchensinc folder like the WinZip self extracting files do.

 I'm just not to good at figuring out some things.

 BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

2013-05-30 Thread Lisa Hayes

JIm my one suggestion is to have a save game function like you do in some of 
your other games, that'd be cool. thanks.

Lisa Hayes




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To: Lisa Hayes Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Strip War



Hi Lisa,

Cool, thank you very much for saying so.

Have fun.

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JIm i love strip war it's good.
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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Smile. I wouldn't call you weird just set in your ways. I had wondered
why you gave your file names something short like winswar4.exe when
most people now days would pick a more explanatory file name like
Strip-War-4.exe . However, now that I know you always use the old Dos
8 letter  naming conventions that makes more sense. Although, Windows
hasn't been restricted to the 8 letter restrictions for years. I
believe they did away with that in Windows 95.

As far as using the My Documents and other personal folders in your
situation it probably comes down to personal choice, but on newer
Windows versions you wouldn't get that choice. Windows is becoming
more like Linux and other Unix variants where all of your personal
files go in your local user directory and saving files to anywhere
else is restricted by User Account Control and various read and write
permissions. So it would probably a good idea to eventually learn
where everything goes if you ever intend on migrating to a new PC
running something newer than XP.

As for myself I always use the personal directories provided by
Windows 7 such as My Documents, My Music, My Pictures, My Videos, etc
as it keeps everything nice and organized. Plus if I ever need to do a
quick backup or recovery all I have to do is grab my c:\Users
directory and I get everything all at once rather than having to hunt
all over creation to figure out if my books are in c:\Books, my notes
are in c:\Notes, my music in c:\Music, etc which is not only messy but
I can't just grab it all at once and do a daily or weekly backup of
the master Users directory and I have to hunt around and copy each
folder one by one.

Plus as you know I mainly use Linux not Windows these days so I am
quite familiar with the habit of using the proper personal directories
provided for their use. On Linux the user's documents, music, etc goes
in /home/user name/ and on Ubuntu, for example, they already have
various subdirectories such as Documents, Music, Videos, Pictures, and
Downloads in your user directory so it doesn't take a rocket scientist
to figure out where personal files should go. I am personally glad
Windows follows this convention as it makes finding things, for me at
least, a breeze.


Cheers!

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 Hi Curt,

 Thank you very much for saying so.

 You know, I am like really old.  I do not like using the my documents, my
 computer or Windows Explorer.  The XP find feature works better for me.  You
 know as long as the folder that you want to search is not to deep.  But way
 more often I use the command prompt.  Again it is a pain if the folder is
 many folders deep or has convoluted names.  But in that case, if I think
 that I will want to go there again, I make a batch file to do that.  And
 then I have batch files that lists the folder in the format that I want at
 the time.  You know like the old eight by three file name format, then size,
 and then date.  And list by size or date etc.  For me that is just faster
 and easier and gives me the information that I am looking for.  Guess that I
 am just old and weird like that.

 BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Strip War

Hi Jim,

Correct. Newer versions of Windows, especially Windows 8, won't allow
you to save log files etc to c:\Program Files and c:\Program Files
(x86) because of the read, write, and execute permissions on those
directories. Windows 8, in particular, gives an error whenever one of
your games like Baseball tries to write a baseball log to c:\Program
Files (x86)\Kitchensinc. So the saved games and log files have to go
somewhere else like the My Documents directory rather than being
written to the Program Files directories.

As for an installer that does what Winkit does that's totally
possible. There are several options from the free utilities like Inno
Setup to commercial installers like Microsoft AdvancedSetup Installer.
I think Advanced Setup Installer is overkill in your case as you have
no need to handle .NET components and things like that. Inno Setup  is
both free and simple to use, and I could probably write up a script
that does what Winkit does that properly detects the correct install
location and puts the icons where they go.

Cheers!

On 5/30/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 Thank you.  I just wonder if there is an installer that would replace my
 winkit and do all that it does plus install my game menu and game of life to
 where you said that it belongs and then have self extracting zip files that
 would also be able to find that folder.

 But I thought that having the games write their files to
 documents\kitchensinc would allow the games to run no matter where they were
 installed since I was told that Windows does not let them be written to
 program files\kitchensinc.

 Thanks again.

 BFN

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