Re: [Audyssey] Why does Final conflict crashing?

2011-12-14 Thread shaun everiss

Has he got all the dotnet stuff loaded, directx latest fro june 2010, etc.
is windows updated.
Is his security software intifeering.
At 09:40 a.m. 14/12/2011 -0500, you wrote:
Hey, I was wondering why does Final Conflict keeps crashing on 
windows 7 64 bit?
A friend downloaded the game and he made sure that all programs was 
cloase and it still crash.

He also then tried the game in compatibility mode and it still crash.
What can he do to get this game runing on his machine?
He has contacted Thomas but he has not responded to his message.
So I told him I would ask on the gamers list.
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Why does Final conflict crashing?

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

Well, the problem with Final Conflict on 64-bit versions of Windows is
due to the fact I didn't compile STFC with 64-bit support in mind.
Remember back when I was writing STFC 64-bit versions of Windows were
not very common, and all of the libraries etc I was working with were
32-bit only. As a result that's just one of the things I have to fix
in STFC.

In short, the main problem is due to the fact I selected the Any CPU
target platform option rather than specifying a 32-bit or 64-bit
version of .NET during compile time. What is happening is because I
didn't specify what .NET runtime to use .NET attempts to run STFC as a
64-bit program, but Managed DirectX and other .NET components it is
compiled against are 32-bit only. It can't access those libraries
since they aren't 64-bit components and bombs out on startup. The only
thing you can do is wait for the next version of sTFC to be released
which will resolve this and other problems.

Cheers!


On 12/14/11, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:
 Hey, I was wondering why does Final Conflict keeps crashing on windows
 7 64 bit?
 A friend downloaded the game and he made sure that all programs was
 cloase and it still crash.
 He also then tried the game in compatibility mode and it still crash.
 What can he do to get this game runing on his machine?
 He has contacted Thomas but he has not responded to his message.
 So I told him I would ask on the gamers list.
 Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Why does Final conflict crashing?

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

None of that will fix the problem in this case. As it so happens STFC
won't run on my 64-bit copy of Windows 7 either, and I know exactly
why. It has to do with the target platform flags I used when building
STFC, the Any CPU target flags instead of the Win32 target flags,
which causes STFC to crash on 64-bit versions of .NET. If I had
specified it was a Win32 application .NET would fallback on the 32-bit
compatibility runtime, but because no CPU was specified it uses the
default 64-bit runtime and STFC crashes.

However, the good news is I've been working on a new version of STFC
off and on which I think will be much much improved. Its written in
C++, uses native Windows libraries, and the alpha runs fine on 64-bit
versions of Windows. The voice of the ship computer is Acapela
Heather, and she sounds pretty decent. Although, part of me wants to
switch the game over to screen reader/SAPI support.

Cheers!


On 12/14/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has he got all the dotnet stuff loaded, directx latest fro june 2010, etc.
 is windows updated.
 Is his security software intifeering.
 At 09:40 a.m. 14/12/2011 -0500, you wrote:
Hey, I was wondering why does Final Conflict keeps crashing on
windows 7 64 bit?
A friend downloaded the game and he made sure that all programs was
cloase and it still crash.
He also then tried the game in compatibility mode and it still crash.
What can he do to get this game runing on his machine?
He has contacted Thomas but he has not responded to his message.
So I told him I would ask on the gamers list.
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Why does Final conflict crashing?

2011-12-14 Thread Jacob Kruger
It seems to work alright on my windows7 64 bit operating system, although 
haven't done too much more than just test that it wants to run/start working 
as such, and the only thing can think of off-hand is that it automatically 
installed under Program Files (x86) as opposed to just program Files, since 
that's where I think slightly backward compatibility requiring apps are 
meant to reside, but think it would itself default to that option FWIW, but, 
on the other hand, since this is a development machine, it might have a 
couple of other things installed that could affect things like this, but not 
necessarily relevant.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why does Final conflict crashing?



Hi Michael,

Well, the problem with Final Conflict on 64-bit versions of Windows is
due to the fact I didn't compile STFC with 64-bit support in mind.
Remember back when I was writing STFC 64-bit versions of Windows were
not very common, and all of the libraries etc I was working with were
32-bit only. As a result that's just one of the things I have to fix
in STFC.

In short, the main problem is due to the fact I selected the Any CPU
target platform option rather than specifying a 32-bit or 64-bit
version of .NET during compile time. What is happening is because I
didn't specify what .NET runtime to use .NET attempts to run STFC as a
64-bit program, but Managed DirectX and other .NET components it is
compiled against are 32-bit only. It can't access those libraries
since they aren't 64-bit components and bombs out on startup. The only
thing you can do is wait for the next version of sTFC to be released
which will resolve this and other problems.

Cheers!


On 12/14/11, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:

Hey, I was wondering why does Final Conflict keeps crashing on windows
7 64 bit?
A friend downloaded the game and he made sure that all programs was
cloase and it still crash.
He also then tried the game in compatibility mode and it still crash.
What can he do to get this game runing on his machine?
He has contacted Thomas but he has not responded to his message.
So I told him I would ask on the gamers list.
Thanks!

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