Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

I didn't know about the interesting logos.  Where is the blindfold for 
"blindfold bowling"?  Maybe on the pin setter at the far end of the lane?


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


When I did the first app - blindfold racer - I met with a bunch of teens 
at Lighthouse Miami, and they came up with the name.
I stuck with the blindfold brand, and now people know it.  All of the 
icons pictures are similar in that they have a red blindfold clipart 
across the picture relating to the game.  For example, with blindfold air 
hockey, its a blindfold on top of an air hockey machine.


On 11/20/2015 3:01 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard<wee1s...@fidnet.com>  wrote:

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know 
that

the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source 
they're


a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"<gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number 
of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 
7.0


or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able 
to

use
the software.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out




Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:


please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:


Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's 
similar

to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 
7

goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards 
you,

and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When 
the

puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the 
puck

aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who 
enjoyed

Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

   <http://blindfoldgames.org/>  Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Marty Schultz]

When I did the first app - blindfold racer - I met with a bunch of teens 
at Lighthouse Miami, and they came up with the name.
I stuck with the blindfold brand, and now people know it.  All of the 
icons pictures are similar in that they have a red blindfold clipart 
across the picture relating to the game.  For example, with blindfold 
air hockey, its a blindfold on top of an air hockey machine.


On 11/20/2015 3:01 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard<wee1s...@fidnet.com>  wrote:
   

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


 

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're

a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
--
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list"<gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0

or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to
use
the software.

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finished,
you! really! are! finished!
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From: "Jason Milyo"<kb3...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list"<gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


   

Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:
 

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
   

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar
to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

   <http://blindfoldgames.org/>  Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Travis Siegel]

What in the world are you guys talking about?
I can count on one hand the number of times I've heard of opensource 
software getting hacked to cause bad versions to be released, and that 
would leave several fingers left over for pointing to the same articles 
about commercial software,w hich would take considerably more than one 
hand to keep track of).  Opensource software *can* get hacked, but so can 
commercial software.  The only difference between opensource and 
commercial software is the fact that with opensource, source is included. 
It's rather difficult to introduce a virus to opensource software, because 
once the source is looked at, folks will spot the malware immediately, and 
it will get removed.  Commercial products don't have this safety net. 
Viruses in commercial software continue being distributed for months after 
said virus has been introduced in some cases.
Just because something is closed source doesn't make it secure. 
Opensource software by its very nature is hard to introduce viruses into 
at the source, simply because it's at the source code level, and not 
distributed with binary executables only.  I much prefer opensource 
software to commercial
products, just because source is open and available.  In most cases, even 
if binaries are already provided, I'll compile my own version anyway, 
because this allows me to configure things exactly the way I want them, 
especially if said software depends on third-party libraries, because then 
I can determine which libraries my version of the software uses, and 
thereby I can (sometimes) make an otherwise unusable program usable, 
because I can strip out the pieces I don't need or want, and that saves me 
disk space, memory, and (in one case) gives me a version that doesn't 
require incompatible libraries for my system.  You just can't do that with 
commercial programs, and for that reason alone, never  mind the hoards of 
other good reasons, opensource is always my first choice when hunting for 
programs.
If you can see the source, you can see what the program does, how it does 
it, and even in what order it does it.  Sometimes, that's all you need to 
learn something new.
It's true that anyone can modify an opensource program, it's also true 
that unless those people can manage to distribute said program, nobody 
else will run it, and all that work is wasted, especially if someone 
downloads their version, spots the malware, and raises the alarm.  If they 
don't distribute their own version of the source, then most folks (such as 
myself) will never use their version, and their efforts are wasted.
It's really a loosing proposition for folks to target opensource for their 
malware/viruses, so as a result, most don't bother.

 On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Danielle Ledet wrote:


Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to i

Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Travis Siegel]

And, I'm sorry.  I sent my reply to that before I saw the topic closed 
message.  No more posting from me on it.

sorry again.



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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Danielle Ledet]

You can Charles. You are right! Folks just trying to downplay what I
am saying probably because I am not as savvy as they are but I don't
care I *know* what I am talking about. Marty correct! The Web is full
of common criminals. Sorry you folks are wearing your feelings on your
sleeves. Don't do it! Welll said Sean I get hoards of junk email ev
ery day which seem fake and no way to unsaub! Oh don't worry the fact
it is esier to come by will eventually make it vulnerable! Don't get
to comfortable!'nuff said!

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> message.  No more posting from me on it.
> sorry again.
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're a 
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open source: 
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to use
the software.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


> Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
> android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
> source.
>
> On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:
>> please make this game for android also. thanks.
>>
>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
>>> Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your
>>> ios
>>> device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
>>> Below is description from IOS app store
>>>
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to
>>> the
>>> arcade game Air Hockey.
>>>
>>> In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck
>>> on
>>> the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
>>> The
>>> puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
>>> bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
>>> shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
>>> goals
>>> wins the game.
>>>
>>> Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
>>> and
>>> you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
>>> puck
>>> is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
>>> aim at
>>> your opponent's goal.
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
>>> opponents
>>> - varying from beginner to expert.
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
>>> Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.
>>>
>>> The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins,
>>> you
>>> can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
>>> ...More
>>>
>>>   <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com
>>>
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[Josh K]

if open source is so dangerous then why is linux mint and ubuntu so very 
popular, not to mention android phones are way way way more popular and 
are vastly outselling the iPhones? I have a mix of open source and 
proprietary stuff in my house, a 4th gen apple tv, android phone, 
windows10 laptop, and my cable box is a mix of open source software and 
some proprietary stuff. yes even comcast cable uses open source stuff in 
its talking set top boxes. and i also have a ubuntu 14.04 dvd disk 
around here in case I need it.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/20/2015 7:26 AM, john wrote:

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to use
the software.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

   <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support



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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that 
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're 
a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open 
source:

7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be 
more

work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and 
different

operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 
or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to 
use

the software.

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on 
your

ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar 
to

the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a 
puck

on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to 
you,

bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more 
coins,

you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

  <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Danielle Ledet]

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're
>>
>> a
>> danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
>> source:
>> 7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
>> more
>> work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
>> than
>> the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
>> different
>> operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
>> iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0
>>
>> or
>> higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to
>> use
>> the software.
>>
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>> finished,
>> you! really! are! finished!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jason Milyo" <kb3...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>>
>>> Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
>>> android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
>>> source.
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:
>>>> please make this game for android also. thanks.
>>>>
>>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
>>>>> Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
>>>>> your
>>>>> ios
>>>>> device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
>>>>> outJ.
>>>>> Below is description from IOS app store
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> arcade game Air Hockey.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
>>>>> puck
>>>>> on
>>>>> the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
>>>>> finger.
>>>>> The
>>>>> puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
>>>>> you,
>>>>> bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
>>>>> his
>>>>> shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
>>>>> goals
>>>>> wins the game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
>>>>> and
>>>>> you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
>>>>> puck
>>>>> is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
>>>>> aim at
>>>>> your opponent's goal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
>>>>> opponents
>>>>> - varying from beginner to expert.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
>>>>> Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.
>>>>>
>>>>> The game comes with coins; you need one

Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less 
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be 
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that 
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official source. 
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and 
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code, but 
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption 
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations, governments 
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True 
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security, you 
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is that 
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which isn't 
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as secure 
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and, 
more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Danielle Ledet]

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
> of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
> could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
> go."
>
> That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.
>
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
>> so.
>> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
>> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
>> able to exploit them.
>> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
>> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
>> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
>> source.
>> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
>> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
>> but
>> that's about as far as it can go.
>> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
>> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
>> governments
>> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
>> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
>> you
>> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
>> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
>> that
>> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
>> isn't
>> possible without seeing the code.
>> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
>> secure
>> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
>> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>>
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
>> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>>
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>> finished,
>> you! really! are! finished!
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Bryan Peterson]

I just had the same thought this morning.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Danielle Ledet

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

---
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finished,


you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're

a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
--
From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0

or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to
use
the software.

---
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finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Milyo" <kb3...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar
to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

  <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece 
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I 
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can 
go."


That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>

To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code, 
but

that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations, 
governments

and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security, 
you

used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is 
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which 
isn't

possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as 
secure

as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

most people who run open source systems such as linux, though, know 
better than not to run any old code that someone may just hand to them. 
also because it is open source, linux security can be fixed faster than 
windows security most cases.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/20/2015 4:51 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


---
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you! really! are! finished!
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From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

You're incorrect here. You can modify your copy of the code, and *only* your 
copy of the code. You cannot get others to run that code.
I also resent being called "dangerous" - and I suspect a number of other 
folks on this list do as well - just because I happen to be able to write 
programs.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 16:51
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
> of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
> could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
> go."
>
> That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.
>
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
> finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
>> so.
>> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
>> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
>> able to exploit them.
>> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
>> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
>> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
>> source.
>> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
>> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
>> but
>> that's about as far as it can go.
>> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
>> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
>> governments
>> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
>> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
>> you
>> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
>> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
>> that
>> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
>> isn't
>> possible without seeing the code.
>> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
>> secure
>> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
>> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>>
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
>> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

I was under the impression that you could modify code and distribute it to 
others.


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From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>

To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


You're incorrect here. You can modify your copy of the code, and *only* 
your

copy of the code. You cannot get others to run that code.
I also resent being called "dangerous" - and I suspect a number of other
folks on this list do as well - just because I happen to be able to write
programs.

--
From: "Danielle Ledet" <singingmywa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 16:51
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a 
piece

of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its 
less

so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might 
be

able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used 
and,

more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know 
that

the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

also most of the world's websites run on servers and those servers run 
open source linux. I always keep a open source ubuntu linux disk around 
with the open source screen reader orca on it because if i want to check 
out a questionable website i can go to it running a live ubuntu disk and 
it won't hurt my computer at all. it could be filled with windows 
malware and viruses but those won't hurt linux at all. open source 
software also gets updates probably more frequently than windows to 
patch security holes and other such things. I also run open source NVDA 
and have no issues.


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On 11/20/2015 4:51 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


---
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you! really! are! finished!
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From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Marty Schultz]

I just wanted to jump in quickly; I won't really participate in this 
android debate, but the key issue with apps created for android, is that 
you can install any app on an android phone without going through  
google play.  And, google play store won't check your code for malware.  
That means you can install malware on your phone, and that malware touch 
other things on the phone just like windows malware can affect other 
things, and reek havoc, not just on your phone, but by sending out fake 
emails to people in your contact list, etc.


I am often frustrated by the extent that apple goes through to keep apps 
clean and malware free, and as a developer, sometimes I have to jump 
through hoops.  But, as a consumer, I trust my iphone way more than I 
trust the PCs or Macs on my desk.



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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Shaun Everiss]

Well opensource is more ddangerous, in the sence that since it is 
hackers and others can use it to make viruses, but they can do that anyway.

You can cut down with staying with lagit sites for the most part.
sadly you do need unchecky for a few installs /nocandy for candy 
installs etc.
I don't think opensource is more dangerous than anything else the only 
thing is that  people can get access to it more easily I guess.
Don't get me wrong there have been times ie android where those of bad 
wishes may want to hack a phone and there will always be that.
However that doesn't make opensource more dangerous than any other 
electronic net app.



On 21/11/2015 1:45 a.m., Josh K wrote:

if open source is so dangerous then why is linux mint and ubuntu so very
popular, not to mention android phones are way way way more popular and
are vastly outselling the iPhones? I have a mix of open source and
proprietary stuff in my house, a 4th gen apple tv, android phone,
windows10 laptop, and my cable box is a mix of open source software and
some proprietary stuff. yes even comcast cable uses open source stuff in
its talking set top boxes. and i also have a ubuntu 14.04 dvd disk
around here in case I need it.

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On 11/20/2015 7:26 AM, john wrote:

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source
they're a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything
7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able
to use
the software.

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

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On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's
similar to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>

...More

   <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be more 
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than 
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and different 
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of 
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 or 
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to use 
the software.


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love 
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open 
source.


On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your 
ios

device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to 
the

arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck 
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger. 
The

puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7 
goals

wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you, 
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the 
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck 
aim at

your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different 
opponents

- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins, 
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app 
upgrade.


<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-air-hockey/id1054990351?mt=8>
...More

  <http://blindfoldgames.org/> Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Jason Milyo]

Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love 
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open source.


On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on 
your ios

device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar 
to the

arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a 
puck on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your 
finger. The

puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7 
goals

wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you, 
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When 
the puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck 
aim at

your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different 
opponents

- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more 
coins, you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app 
upgrade.



...More

   Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Marty Schultz]

Maybe in the future.  Not soon.  Sorry.


On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on 
your ios

device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar 
to the

arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a 
puck on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your 
finger. The

puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7 
goals

wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you, 
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When 
the puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck 
aim at

your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different 
opponents

- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more 
coins, you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app 
upgrade.



...More

 Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Blindfold Racer - free iPhone/iPad app where you drive with your ears, 
not your eyes www.BlindfoldRacer.com 


Learn about how we built it for blind & visually impaired kids, teens & 
adults as a STEM project.

Follow the blog: BlindfoldGames.org 
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store

  


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger. The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7 goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you, and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins, you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app upgrade.

  
...More

   Blindfold Air Hockey Support

  

  


Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com

  


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

also please make the game for apple tv and TVOS.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store

  


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger. The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7 goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you, and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins, you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app upgrade.

  
...More

   Blindfold Air Hockey Support

  

  


Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com

  


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