Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game experiences
Hi all. Yes I am still around, just have not had much time to read the stuff on here lately. As most of you know my mainstream gaming experience though fairly extensive is pretty much limited to consoles. The only things I will mention here are that, unless you have sighted help around pretty consistently, there are indeed going to be many of the newer mainstream titles that you will not be able to play very well. In general these are games where you as the main character have to do a lot of exploring, finding items, solving visual puzzles, etc. These kinds of obstacles will unfortunately eliminate many of the big roleplaying and strategy titles that a lot of your sighted friends are playing unless you happen to have friends who are willing to sit there and help you play the games which is not real common. There are exceptions to this of course. For instance I enjoy playing around with the PS3 title Heavenly Sword because of the really amazing sounds and ambience that are in the game, plus the fact that although you cannot complete it by yourself, it is possible to get pretty far in the game by trial and error. Having said this, I should point out that with a lot of patience and trial and error, we can learn to enjoy many mainstream titles. The game categories that I've known blind people to have the most success with and have had success myself are: fighting games such as the Tekken series, the Mortal Kombat series, and other similar games. Next are sports games such as baseball, football, boxing, wrestling etc. I should point out that I'm not really into sports myself and so have not devoted the needed time and effort to learning any of these. Lastly are the rhythm games like the Rockband and Guitar Hero series and similar games. With all these available for most consoles and to some degree for pc's as well, there is no reason why someone who is blind should not investigate mainstream gaming provided you have some patience and a willingness to spend some time working with them. I could be much better than I am at the mainstream games I have if I was willing and able to put more time into them but that just isn't the case for now. Nonetheless I enjoy my mainstream titles at least as much as my accessible ones and in fact tend to play them more often. Game on. Tom On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:46 AM, john wrote: Hi all, the recent conversation on mainstream games has gotten me thinking about the experiences I've had with them. I'm curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had, whether it be how you play a certain game, or what you do to enjoy it. For my part, beyond the novalogic games I mentioned earlier, I've found a lot of mainstream games entirely useless. A prime example of this would be the lego star wars series by lukas arts. Believe it or not, the first two games in that group were in mono. Anyway, I'd like to here about what how you play mainstream games, or what kind of things to do to better understand them. I'd be interested in any strategies you use to help improve access ability. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game experiences
not to mention that some of the hi def cards have issues well the stock ones anyway don't always have the memmory on them, so games that run analog like a lot of older stuff just doesn't work right. I have or my grandpa has an old xp system that has an old analog soundblaster live. When he has no need for the unit i plan to grab it just so I can play above all else all the blind games that have issues on here. these include teraformas and to a lesser extent sod. Not to mention that sometimes the older stuff runs better on slower units. At 10:18 a.m. 30/09/2011, you wrote: Hmmm, I've actually got a beautiful laptop that can run pretty much anything, though I do see where you're coming from. I've actually got a windows 98 machine within three feet of me (6 gb hardrive, 96 mb ram (after upgrade) and a 350 mhz processor) right next to my two very modern windows 7 machines, and I'm not sure which one runs my games better. Honistly, the mainstream comunity gets a bit of pity from me, look at the amount of money they have to spend on an upgrade for their video card (to play one game, I would have had to spend well over $110), and I can't think of any audiogame that can't run on any half-decent xp machine. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game experiences
well one major thing with mainstreamers is that they need loads of guts. Since us blindies don't really need large 500mb up external video cards, sound cards and big processers and enough memmory to control the borg well ok, maybe the sound cards, processers and memmory is probably something we may need, but not the graphics cards. And we only need what is needed to run our stuff. I can seeme for esxample buying another duelcore old beast from ebay or an old system with a lagit or otherwise pirated xp on it because its all I will ever need unless I get given the cash to get a propper version of windows and office or have to upgrade readers again or something. So its safe to say we run with what is stock in the system bar ram maybe at least most general people that are not total geeks do. And some of our stuff is old because we don't have funding or need. There is no reason to play mainstreamers at least we can't because of just the way we are. We are blind, and the power we would need, besides we don't usually need all that much. SOme friends like lego starwars can be played with friends, though, lets see. I really havn't played my games that much latesly. I have silent steel and teraformas which are bad examples, but I have not as yet stretched the power of my laptop and its as old as now at least 6 years. I aggree I have stretched and killed the power on previous systems but not now. Do I think we will ever reach mainstreamhood. Its possible. We can for a reasonable sum get the cpu, drives and memmory we would need. ANd yes for those of us inclined for audio the soundcard and other things. ANd yes the gamepads mice and joysticks and other devices maybe. But the external video cards are something we may never get, there is no point. Ofcause excluding shared systems, which others use and even then the crappy internal card will go with our screenreaders and well. Then there are driver updates and the fact some external cards can cause trouble. And then its a quick dirty reformat and pulling that card, and stuffing it in a cupboard and forgetting about it. For consoles we may have better success but for only those interested in such things. Will we really hit mainstreamers? Well if one day we can afford all the hardware then maybe. But who knows. At 01:46 a.m. 30/09/2011, you wrote: Hi all, the recent conversation on mainstream games has gotten me thinking about the experiences I've had with them. I'm curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had, whether it be how you play a certain game, or what you do to enjoy it. For my part, beyond the novalogic games I mentioned earlier, I've found a lot of mainstream games entirely useless. A prime example of this would be the lego star wars series by lukas arts. Believe it or not, the first two games in that group were in mono. Anyway, I'd like to here about what how you play mainstream games, or what kind of things to do to better understand them. I'd be interested in any strategies you use to help improve accessability. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game experiences
Hmmm, I've actually got a beautiful laptop that can run pretty much anything, though I do see where you're coming from. I've actually got a windows 98 machine within three feet of me (6 gb hardrive, 96 mb ram (after upgrade) and a 350 mhz processor) right next to my two very modern windows 7 machines, and I'm not sure which one runs my games better. Honistly, the mainstream comunity gets a bit of pity from me, look at the amount of money they have to spend on an upgrade for their video card (to play one game, I would have had to spend well over $110), and I can't think of any audiogame that can't run on any half-decent xp machine. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
