Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
You can rp with core exiles too if you wanted too. this is the thing, you don't need the pvp crap like that in order to have a good rp environment. The point is that the option for rp is there if you wana go down that road. Some people do which is ok. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 28 September 2012 21:22 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Well James, call it roleplay or whatever you want, --- -though to me roleplay doesn't mean beating the snot out of whoever you wish without fear or favor, which is rpetty much what happens on miriani by all accounts. All i can say is I'm dam sorry such a great sounding game is so badly spoilt, and obviously I'm not the only person that thinks this. That's exactly why i suggest opt in instead, so that those who wish pvp, or roleplay if you prefer can do that, and those who do not cannot, it's about choice, which obviously the miriani admins don't care about in this matter. it's just a shame though, sinse nearly every space game takes this line, which is exactly why core exiles is so unique. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
I agree Dark, I'm a peaceful person normally, but it's taking advantage to snag a person if they are afk or such, in my case I've taken unwell and haven't been able to shut down the game or get somewhere safe, therebye earning myself a nice stay in a bc for a while. The decor was terrible, but the company was far far worse, thank god for the log out button. :) -- From: "dark" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:21 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Well James, call it roleplay or whatever you want, --- -though to me roleplay doesn't mean beating the snot out of whoever you wish without fear or favor, which is rpetty much what happens on miriani by all accounts. All i can say is I'm dam sorry such a great sounding game is so badly spoilt, and obviously I'm not the only person that thinks this. That's exactly why i suggest opt in instead, so that those who wish pvp, or roleplay if you prefer can do that, and those who do not cannot, it's about choice, which obviously the miriani admins don't care about in this matter. it's just a shame though, sinse nearly every space game takes this line, which is exactly why core exiles is so unique. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
There is a difference between realism and griefing. While there are pirates in space-themed novels who steal, loot, and plunder repeatedly, it doesn't mean that you should continue to do it once someone is up and knock them down again. If I want that kind of realism, I'll go live real life. There's realism for the sake of game balance, and then there is realism that can stifle. It cracks me up when fantasy themed games try to go too far to make things realistic and go so overboard. Casting magic missile in the darkness isn't necessary a point to realism either, and yet it's featured in most of those types of games. When it's stifling and it's far more work, then it becomes far less fun for me. I'd be fine with space pirates if people actually roleplayed consistently and it was more than just blowing up ships just because they don't like something you said on chatter, or they are OOCly having a bad day. Pirates could commandeer ships, screw around with trade prices and values, have effects on planets. All of these things are things that could be roleplayed and with a little host help, could come off quite well. There could be an opportunity to form a resistance group, to react to what the pirates are doing. This is cause and effect. This is build-up. This is role play. There are some games where notorious villains stop and help out newbies in their own way. Why? Because they understood that other players were the lifeblood of a mud. They could have cut them down, been mean and hateful, but they chose not to and instead chose to lend a hand. Then later, they chose to do some awesome roleplay with that player once they'd gotten established and start conflict. Blowing up ships, consistently griefing, and holding someone for hours to stun and strand them takes no imagination. There is no build-up, no conflict, it's just someone waving their e-genitals around and proclaiming that theirs is bigger while hiding behind the 'but it's my character and that's how I roleplay!' facade. But since nothing has been done about it and it won't likely change, it's just more fuel to feed the beast. Warmly, Meka, who apparently has a very strong opinion on this issue. - Original Message - From: "James Howard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. while at the same time, I agree, there should be limits, I also think the hosts, want a high realism effect. when you consider real life, you don't get alot of times to choose if you want to be attacked and things stolen from you, this is the similar effect they're trying to put in game. While I agree they do need to make changes, they're not, because they don't care to, and the majoiry of the older players there, have enough influence to keep it the way it is, even if they did want to change it. and to be perfectly honest, miriani does still have a good peek playerbase, I see over 60 to 70 people alot during the day, and truthfully, that number doesn'ts eem like its going to drop anytime soon. so also, sense they look at that, and see hey, we have a goo player number, there's no need to change these small things like this, its a case of teh majority verses the few. so until something drastic actually happens, don't expect it to change. On 9/28/12, dark wrote: > To be honest lori, opt in pvp would mean they don't need! to deal with > anyone. that way anyone who wants! to fight other people could do so and > as > > far as the rest of us are concerned just get the heck on with it. > > I've no problem with people blowing 7 shades out of each other in games so > long as everyone agrees first and that it doesn't affect what I, as a solo > player am doing. > > This is exaclty where kingdom of loathing got it right I think, not to > mention alteraeon of course. > > Beware the grue! > > DArk. > - > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
The challenge withopt-in PVP on a role-play enforced game is that inevitably you will have people who say whatever they want and antagonize the pvp players, with the idea that nothing can be done to retalliate against them. Of course Ihave seen other rp-enforced games who manage opt-in PVP in such a way, and those who antagonize will quickly find themselves set to PVP. Of course, this actually requires some work to keep the game atmosphere going well, and I just never got the impression that those with the ability to create change gave a crap about it. Meka - Original Message - From: "Lori Duncan" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase It's also because a lot of the pirate players are totally over-grown kids with inflated egos, who can't get attention any other way than to bully and harrass people. It's up to the hosts to stop being lazy and deal with them. -- From: "Valiant8086" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:07 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase > Hi. > You've got the idea. that is why I quit playing. I had a pretty nifty > soundpack going there too that I no longer support because I can't bother > playing it. It's a neat game, but opt-in pvp has me totally spoiled. > > Sent with Thunderbird 14 Portable > On 9/12/2012 12:26 AM, dark wrote: >> Hi Nick. >> >> I know myself that even though there is a lot I'd like to try in miriani, >> ship to ship combat, fighting the aliens etc, the constant unregulated >> pvp where anyone can blow you up at any time puts me off entirely, sinse >> I just am not interested in a game like that, and I don't want to risk >> all my progress and equip ment being destroyed by some high level player >> who was having a bad day. >> >> I have met several miriani players who made progress in the game, but >> left because they got sick of this aspect of things, indeed to my mind >> nothing is more! liekly to put new players off than being killed by >> anyone of a higher level. >> >> so, while I'm not sure if this is a reason for the decline, if miriani >> changed their policy and made player killing an opt in system the way it >> is on alteraeon, methinks they would get a lot more interest, >> starting with myself. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase >> >> >>> Hello all, >>> Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their >>> website, just to stay in touch with what's happening >>> ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've >>> discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has >>> dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and >>> sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding >>> reasons for this decline? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nick Helms >>> P.L.U.R. >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Well James, call it roleplay or whatever you want, --- -though to me roleplay doesn't mean beating the snot out of whoever you wish without fear or favor, which is rpetty much what happens on miriani by all accounts. All i can say is I'm dam sorry such a great sounding game is so badly spoilt, and obviously I'm not the only person that thinks this. That's exactly why i suggest opt in instead, so that those who wish pvp, or roleplay if you prefer can do that, and those who do not cannot, it's about choice, which obviously the miriani admins don't care about in this matter. it's just a shame though, sinse nearly every space game takes this line, which is exactly why core exiles is so unique. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
that may have been, but as you look in the change of hosts, and changes in policies as well, they're willing to make small ones here and there, they're not going to out right say ok you won't be attacked if you don't want to, because its not conducive to the game's feel. all who play, also have to remember this, once that n tag is gone, you're not a newbie anymore. there are specifically thigns in place for those who have the n tag, so when you're refering to newbies, yes, there are thigns in place that protects them, but, once that n tag drops, which it does automatically after a long amount of time, its assumed, you've learned how to take care of yourself, and defend yourself. Miriani is for most designed with a roleplay environment in mind, you have to good side, and teh bad side, and the bad side doesn't have to just be "aliens" it can be people from your or the other alliences as well, and if you start restricting things like that in a roleplay environment, you take away from it, so you can say they need to do this, as much as you won't, but if its going to take away from the feel, from teh roleplay, the good verses bad element, they won't do it, its just that simple. On 9/28/12, Darren Harris wrote: > But isn't the word "game" and not "realistic" key to this whole discussion? > I play a game to escape. Not to get into something realistic. > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of James Howard > Sent: 28 September 2012 16:45 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase > > Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. > while at the same time, I agree, there should be limits, I also think > the hosts, want a high realism effect. > when you consider real life, you don't get alot of times to choose if > you want to be attacked and things stolen from you, this is the > similar effect they're trying to put in game. > While I agree they do need to make changes, they're not, because they > don't care to, and the majoiry of the older players there, have enough > influence to keep it the way it is, even if they did want to change > it. > and to be perfectly honest, miriani does still have a good peek > playerbase, I see over 60 to 70 people alot during the day, and > truthfully, that number doesn'ts eem like its going to drop anytime > soon. > so also, sense they look at that, and see hey, we have a goo player > number, there's no need to change these small things like this, its a > case of teh majority verses the few. > so until something drastic actually happens, don't expect it to change. > > On 9/28/12, dark wrote: >> To be honest lori, opt in pvp would mean they don't need! to deal with >> anyone. that way anyone who wants! to fight other people could do so and > as >> >> far as the rest of us are concerned just get the heck on with it. >> >> I've no problem with people blowing 7 shades out of each other in games >> so >> long as everyone agrees first and that it doesn't affect what I, as a >> solo >> player am doing. >> >> This is exaclty where kingdom of loathing got it right I think, not to >> mention alteraeon of course. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> DArk. >> - >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_
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But isn't the word "game" and not "realistic" key to this whole discussion? I play a game to escape. Not to get into something realistic. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: 28 September 2012 16:45 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. while at the same time, I agree, there should be limits, I also think the hosts, want a high realism effect. when you consider real life, you don't get alot of times to choose if you want to be attacked and things stolen from you, this is the similar effect they're trying to put in game. While I agree they do need to make changes, they're not, because they don't care to, and the majoiry of the older players there, have enough influence to keep it the way it is, even if they did want to change it. and to be perfectly honest, miriani does still have a good peek playerbase, I see over 60 to 70 people alot during the day, and truthfully, that number doesn'ts eem like its going to drop anytime soon. so also, sense they look at that, and see hey, we have a goo player number, there's no need to change these small things like this, its a case of teh majority verses the few. so until something drastic actually happens, don't expect it to change. On 9/28/12, dark wrote: > To be honest lori, opt in pvp would mean they don't need! to deal with > anyone. that way anyone who wants! to fight other people could do so and as > > far as the rest of us are concerned just get the heck on with it. > > I've no problem with people blowing 7 shades out of each other in games so > long as everyone agrees first and that it doesn't affect what I, as a solo > player am doing. > > This is exaclty where kingdom of loathing got it right I think, not to > mention alteraeon of course. > > Beware the grue! > > DArk. > - > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Actually James, even if you look at times in history when piracy was common, there were! rules, even unspoken ones. Also considder that a game is meant to be playable by everyone, newbies and old players alike, and enjoyment must therefore be considdered. Frankly, I've heard more people who like darren say they used!" to play miriani but were pvp'd to death, or like me reffuse to play such a game for that reason. And as I said, this isn't supposed to say that pvp should be utterly! removed from the game, only that it should be restricted to those who want it. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
To be honest lori, opt in pvp would mean they don't need! to deal with anyone. that way anyone who wants! to fight other people could do so and as far as the rest of us are concerned just get the heck on with it. I've no problem with people blowing 7 shades out of each other in games so long as everyone agrees first and that it doesn't affect what I, as a solo player am doing. This is exaclty where kingdom of loathing got it right I think, not to mention alteraeon of course. Beware the grue! DArk. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It's also because a lot of the pirate players are totally over-grown kids with inflated egos, who can't get attention any other way than to bully and harrass people. It's up to the hosts to stop being lazy and deal with them. -- From: "Valiant8086" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:07 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Hi. You've got the idea. that is why I quit playing. I had a pretty nifty soundpack going there too that I no longer support because I can't bother playing it. It's a neat game, but opt-in pvp has me totally spoiled. Sent with Thunderbird 14 Portable On 9/12/2012 12:26 AM, dark wrote: Hi Nick. I know myself that even though there is a lot I'd like to try in miriani, ship to ship combat, fighting the aliens etc, the constant unregulated pvp where anyone can blow you up at any time puts me off entirely, sinse I just am not interested in a game like that, and I don't want to risk all my progress and equip ment being destroyed by some high level player who was having a bad day. I have met several miriani players who made progress in the game, but left because they got sick of this aspect of things, indeed to my mind nothing is more! liekly to put new players off than being killed by anyone of a higher level. so, while I'm not sure if this is a reason for the decline, if miriani changed their policy and made player killing an opt in system the way it is on alteraeon, methinks they would get a lot more interest, starting with myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Hello all, Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their website, just to stay in touch with what's happening ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding reasons for this decline? -- Nick Helms P.L.U.R. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
I have heard as much, still if their player base is indeed dropping maybe they would considder changing their minds. I'd certainly love to try miriani myself,but not if I can have everything I work for utterly destroyed at a moments notice by someone else. If I don't want to fight other people, why should I have the inconvenience of having them fight me? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
I don't actually think the devs on that mud care either way. That's the impression I got before I left the game. Well I half left half got barred because I expressed real displeasure at having my assets stolen so early on in the game by some little upstart who new I didn't have the ability to fight back. Rather pointless really. So like I say I doubt very much that the devs will care 1 way or other. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 28 September 2012 14:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase I actually wonder given how many people I've heard leave the game, or like me don't want to play the game because of this ridiculous enforced pk if some sort of effort to contact the developers would be a good idea, sinse I'd love to try miriani as fighting the prailer, surveying and exploring sound just the sort of things I'd enjoy in a game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
I actually wonder given how many people I've heard leave the game, or like me don't want to play the game because of this ridiculous enforced pk if some sort of effort to contact the developers would be a good idea, sinse I'd love to try miriani as fighting the prailer, surveying and exploring sound just the sort of things I'd enjoy in a game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Oh yeah, I remember working on that soundpack with you. Good times. Anyway, they got a lot of stuff going for it. A nice codebase, a pretty huge world, and at one point there were some really cool events which developed the story (the wormhole aliens anyone?). The problem is they're not running it very well. For those who haven't played miriani but tried Alter aeon, imagine getting to a high level, learning a lot of spells, and then someone would come along, ruin your day and you'd literally have to start from square 1, which if you didn't have money wouldn't even be possible. On 9/28/2012 9:07 AM, Valiant8086 wrote: Hi. You've got the idea. that is why I quit playing. I had a pretty nifty soundpack going there too that I no longer support because I can't bother playing it. It's a neat game, but opt-in pvp has me totally spoiled. Sent with Thunderbird 14 Portable On 9/12/2012 12:26 AM, dark wrote: Hi Nick. I know myself that even though there is a lot I'd like to try in miriani, ship to ship combat, fighting the aliens etc, the constant unregulated pvp where anyone can blow you up at any time puts me off entirely, sinse I just am not interested in a game like that, and I don't want to risk all my progress and equip ment being destroyed by some high level player who was having a bad day. I have met several miriani players who made progress in the game, but left because they got sick of this aspect of things, indeed to my mind nothing is more! liekly to put new players off than being killed by anyone of a higher level. so, while I'm not sure if this is a reason for the decline, if miriani changed their policy and made player killing an opt in system the way it is on alteraeon, methinks they would get a lot more interest, starting with myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Hello all, Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their website, just to stay in touch with what's happening ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding reasons for this decline? -- Nick Helms P.L.U.R. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
That game is nothing but trouble. I like the idea of it but to constantly attack newbies and to profit from that constant attack I cannot support. It's wrong to be honest. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 28 September 2012 08:19 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase I actually don't understand the logic of unrestricted pvp. Pvp is fine for those who want it, but for those who don't if it exists it can be a no no, and sinse there can! be an opt in system meaning you keep both groups of people happy why not have one? Having unrestricted pvp is to me like having a bar who just! sell alcoholic drinks, and say to anyone who wants just some coke or lemonade or whatever "oh tough luck" Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
I actually don't understand the logic of unrestricted pvp. Pvp is fine for those who want it, but for those who don't if it exists it can be a no no, and sinse there can! be an opt in system meaning you keep both groups of people happy why not have one? Having unrestricted pvp is to me like having a bar who just! sell alcoholic drinks, and say to anyone who wants just some coke or lemonade or whatever "oh tough luck" Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Hi. You've got the idea. that is why I quit playing. I had a pretty nifty soundpack going there too that I no longer support because I can't bother playing it. It's a neat game, but opt-in pvp has me totally spoiled. Sent with Thunderbird 14 Portable On 9/12/2012 12:26 AM, dark wrote: Hi Nick. I know myself that even though there is a lot I'd like to try in miriani, ship to ship combat, fighting the aliens etc, the constant unregulated pvp where anyone can blow you up at any time puts me off entirely, sinse I just am not interested in a game like that, and I don't want to risk all my progress and equip ment being destroyed by some high level player who was having a bad day. I have met several miriani players who made progress in the game, but left because they got sick of this aspect of things, indeed to my mind nothing is more! liekly to put new players off than being killed by anyone of a higher level. so, while I'm not sure if this is a reason for the decline, if miriani changed their policy and made player killing an opt in system the way it is on alteraeon, methinks they would get a lot more interest, starting with myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Hello all, Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their website, just to stay in touch with what's happening ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding reasons for this decline? -- Nick Helms P.L.U.R. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Hi Nick. I know myself that even though there is a lot I'd like to try in miriani, ship to ship combat, fighting the aliens etc, the constant unregulated pvp where anyone can blow you up at any time puts me off entirely, sinse I just am not interested in a game like that, and I don't want to risk all my progress and equip ment being destroyed by some high level player who was having a bad day. I have met several miriani players who made progress in the game, but left because they got sick of this aspect of things, indeed to my mind nothing is more! liekly to put new players off than being killed by anyone of a higher level. so, while I'm not sure if this is a reason for the decline, if miriani changed their policy and made player killing an opt in system the way it is on alteraeon, methinks they would get a lot more interest, starting with myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nick Helms" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase Hello all, Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their website, just to stay in touch with what's happening ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding reasons for this decline? -- Nick Helms P.L.U.R. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] miriani playerbase
Nick, Two reasons: Swamp, and Alter Aeon. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Nick Helms wrote: > Hello all, > Althoguh I don't play miriani anymore, I periodicly look at their > website, just to stay in touch with what's happening > ingame(announcements, ingame news, etc). More recently, I've > discovered that the number of players connected at any given time has > dropped from the mid 50s to usualy somewhere in the mid-30s and > sometimes even lower. I'm curious to know if there are any outstanding > reasons for this decline? > > > -- > Nick Helms > P.L.U.R. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
