Re: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to

2011-12-27 Thread Charles Rivard
I don't think that release dates should be given, although if an expected, 
and that is the key word here, dates of release are given, we should be told 
why they are not met.  If you can't keep a promise, you either shouldn't 
have made it or you should explain why you can't keep it.


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From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 10:26 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to



hi all


do people thinnk, as i do, that as a blind gaming community we need to not 
be given release dates?


take this new title, kurt wolf, from the same developer as aerik.

quote
game is out new years eve quote
we heard this about other titles in our community and when deadlines could 
not be adhered too, it was as though Armageddon ad come to earth.

then
quote demo uploading today quote
if someone knows this will not be the case, or the goal can evidently not 
be met, why not provide an update, as for example, does howard sherman of

www.malinche.net
explaining why the deadline can not be met, or, not give a date at all?

I think as blind gamers we need to accept inevitable delays, and when a 
game is out just announce it, provide links to demo and payment is any and 
go.



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Re: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to

2011-12-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi William,

That's precisely why I don't give release dates myself. I know given
my hectic schedule that a game will get done when it gets done and no
sooner. Trying to put a release date on it only adds a lot of
unnecessary pressure to complete it without setbacks, technical
problems, and any number of problems that might pop up between the
time the developer starts the project and releases it. So no I don't
think a developer should give a fixed release date for a game unless
they are absolutely certain they can meet the deadline.

Cheers!


On 12/26/11, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
   hi all


 do people thinnk, as i do, that as a blind gaming community we need to not
 be given release dates?

 take this new title, kurt wolf, from the same developer as aerik.

 quote
 game is out new years eve quote
 we heard this about other titles in our community and when deadlines could
 not be adhered too, it was as though Armageddon ad come to earth.
 then
 quote demo uploading today quote
 if someone knows this will not be the case, or the goal can evidently not be
 met, why not provide an update, as for example, does howard sherman of
 www.malinche.net
 explaining why the deadline can not be met, or, not give a date at all?

 I think as blind gamers we need to accept inevitable delays, and when a game
 is out just announce it, provide links to demo and payment is any and go.


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Re: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to

2011-12-26 Thread Bryan Peterson
I tend to agree with that. If I were developing games I'd probably follow 
that particular battle plan so to speak.

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- Original Message - 
From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 9:26 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to



hi all


do people thinnk, as i do, that as a blind gaming community we need to not 
be given release dates?


take this new title, kurt wolf, from the same developer as aerik.

quote
game is out new years eve quote
we heard this about other titles in our community and when deadlines could 
not be adhered too, it was as though Armageddon ad come to earth.

then
quote demo uploading today quote
if someone knows this will not be the case, or the goal can evidently not 
be met, why not provide an update, as for example, does howard sherman of

www.malinche.net
explaining why the deadline can not be met, or, not give a date at all?

I think as blind gamers we need to accept inevitable delays, and when a 
game is out just announce it, provide links to demo and payment is any and 
go.



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Re: [Audyssey] release dates that can not be adhered to

2011-12-26 Thread Dallas O'Brien

no,
its more like the developers need to hold off on set dates, untill they 
are sure the product will be ready for that date.
Having an upcoming date for the game, gets the hype going, and gets the 
interest ready for the game.

dallas


On 12/27/2011 14:26, william lomas wrote:

hi all


do people thinnk, as i do, that as a blind gaming community we need to not be 
given release dates?

take this new title, kurt wolf, from the same developer as aerik.

quote
game is out new years eve quote
we heard this about other titles in our community and when deadlines could not 
be adhered too, it was as though Armageddon ad come to earth.
then
quote demo uploading today quote
if someone knows this will not be the case, or the goal can evidently not be 
met, why not provide an update, as for example, does howard sherman of
www.malinche.net
explaining why the deadline can not be met, or, not give a date at all?

I think as blind gamers we need to accept inevitable delays, and when a game is 
out just announce it, provide links to demo and payment is any and go.


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