Re: g_b Wednesday's Woe
:D Regards, M.Shroff From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014 11:30 PM Subject: Re: g_b Wednesday's Woe The guy didn't realise that the other guys had rejected him by saying, Nein which means no in German. He had misinterpreted it as Nine on a scale of ten. On Sunday, 2 February 2014 10:58 AM, Manoj Shroff noorkajhur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Didnt understand this one ... Pls explain. ... On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: I met a friend in a bar and noticed two hunks looking at me. Nine I heard one of them whisper when I passed. Feeling chuffed, I swaggered up to my friend and told him that the boys had just rated me a nine out of ten. I don't want to ruin it for you, he replied, but when I walked past them, they were speaking German.
Re: g_b Wednesday's Woe
Didnt understand this one ... Pls explain. ... On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:40 PM, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: I met a friend in a bar and noticed two hunks looking at me. Nine I heard one of them whisper when I passed. Feeling chuffed, I swaggered up to my friend and told him that the boys had just rated me a nine out of ten. I don't want to ruin it for you, he replied, but when I walked past them, they were speaking German.
Re: g_b Join your groups
I second this. ... On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Richard A Ammon mic...@yahoo.com wrote: I suggest GayBombay and Gay_Bombay join together as one group instead of readers having to sort through two news listings. Are we not all one family?!
Re: g_b A relationship is like a house
Loved this msg. ... On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:04 AM, dunno76 dunn...@yahoo.com wrote: LOVE QUOTE OF THE DAY A relationship is like a house. When a lightbulb burns out, you do not go and buy a new house, you fix the lightbulb. - Author Unknown (more great quotes) (Click above for the bigger image) _ OTHER QUOTES POSTS IN SYMPHONY OF LOVE Its your road, and yours alone. Others may walk it with you, but no one can walk it for you. - Rumi (more great quotes from Rumi) (Click above for the bigger image) ___ Happiness is really the reflection of our thoughts. - SOL (more great quotes) (Click above for the bigger image) ___ I want you to listen to what your conscience commands you to do and go on to carry it out to the best of your knowledge. - Viktor E. Frankl (more great quotes from Viktor E. Frankl) (Click above for the bigger image) ___ Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. - Adrian Corday (more great quotes) When we look at the 'recipes' for happiness as mentioned by Adrian Corday, we would realise that happiness really depends on us ... how are we living our lives? Do we smile for no good reason? There's no reason why we are smiling because the smile comes from within us ... just simply that we are happy? What do you think? What is your interpretation of 'Smile for no reason?' Do we love without conditions? I believe that most time when we love, we have certain expectations from the love we love and when the expectations are not met ... situations and relationships turn sour. One of the greatest examples of unconditional love is definitely the love which parents shower their children; simple pure love of wishing the loved ones to be better. Do we act with purpose or are we simply conforming to the expectations the society and the people around us have on us? Are we listening more often to our hearts? And of course laughing often! (Click above for the bigger image) ___ Don't save something for a special occasion. Every day of your life is a special occasion. - Thomas S. Monson (more great quotes from Thomas S. Monson) (Click above for the bigger image) ___ If you can't fly then run, if you can't run then walk, if you can't walk then crawl, but whatever you do you have to keep moving forward. - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (more great quotes from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.) No matter how slow the going or how the going is, keep moving forward. One day we will reach where we want to go ... as long as we don't give up. (Click above for the bigger image) ___ Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days. The young clerk responded, That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations. (Continue reading at: The Green Thing – An old lady on environment) ___ Stop Snoring Today!
Re: g_b extra-marital relationship and trust
:D ... On May 3, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Bharat bharat...@yahoo.com wrote: Came across a Planet Romeo profile, the headline of which is Married guy from mumbai,wants a long lasting relationship based on trust,admiration and openness.
g_b PARENTS' MEET
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME AS TO WHEN EXACTLY IS THE PARENTS MEET...ITS SEPTEMBER ALREADY,AND I HAVENT SEEN A WORD ON THE LISTS OR ON THE SITE BEING SPOKEN ABOUT THE PARENTS MEET REGARDS. Signature-*divinity is in every1,perversity is when v fail 2 recognise this believe that v have the right 2 discriminate.* *RISK MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS SAFE, CARE MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS WISE, DREAM MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS PRACTICAL, EXPECT MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS POSSIBLE.* *PERSPECTIVE- what does this say - Godisnowhere- did u read,'God is no where?' or did u read,'God is now here?' We dont always see the same thing as other people-its all about perspective* *one of the most important tools in getting along with other people is knowing that the other person might not be thinkin in the same way as you.* *THE GENESIS OF PROGRESS IS DISOBEDIENCE. * *THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIA FREE EMAIL ADDRESS. * *YOU MAY BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WELL-READ PERSON,BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF THE HEART AND/or MATTERS OF THE LOINS - WE ARE ALL IDIOTS.* See the Web#39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b I PROTEST TO MODERATORS
Hey.,i dont think its a problem if someone posts a 1.6 megabyte file.. To download it or not is your choice. No ones forcing u to download it.. And with just the click of an icon onscreen u can delete the mail with its attachment if u wish.. There is no problem with the moderation.,its a free country,a free queer list.,and everyone has equal right to express themselves.. Some are capable of expressing themselves lightly whereas some need a tad more size limit to express themselves.. There is no problem with the moderation.,if any.,i suppose there is a problem with your net connection.. U sound as if u use dial up instead of broadband.. Stop criticising the moderation and go change your net connection dear. Regards. Signature- *RISK MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS SAFE, CARE MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS WISE, DREAM MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS PRACTICAL, EXPECT MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS POSSIBLE.* *PERSPECTIVE- what does this say - Godisnowhere did u read,'God is no where?' or did u read,'God is now here?' We dont always see the same thing as other people-its all about perspective-one of the most important tools in getting along with other people is knowing that the other person might not be thinkin in the same way as you.* *THE GENESIS OF PROGRESS IS DISOBEDIENCE. * *THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIA FREE EMAIL ADDRESS. * *YOU MAY BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WELL-READ PERSON,BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF THE HEART AND/or MATTERS OF THE LOINS - WE ARE ALL IDIOTS. * --- On Thu, 26/2/09, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: g_b I PROTEST TO MODERATORS To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:52 PM There should be a moderation policy on the size of the attachment that can be posted. This is ridiculous where 1.6MB is sent as attachment clogging up our mailbox size and prolonging download time when we may not even be interested in the song or whatever. Especially when a mere link can easily be sent for the song after uploading it on Rapidshare or Sendspace, if the sender is so eager that their silly song be heard on the list. I protest and say that such huge files when they are impertinant is to be weeded out. Only huge files that are related to LGBT issues should be allowed. I demand that moderators reply soon on this issue with a clear policy. Best regards Aditya Bondyopadhyay = you got a point. no more big files and all relevant files will be uploaded to the file section if it exceeds 1 mb. Regards Moderator Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
g_b Utah lawmaker: Gays are greatest threat to America
Signature- *RISK MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS SAFE, CARE MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS WISE, DREAM MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS PRACTICAL, EXPECT MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS POSSIBLE.* *PERSPECTIVE- what does this say - Godisnowhere did u read,'God is no where?' or did u read,'God is now here?' We dont always see the same thing as other people-its all about perspective-one of the most important tools in getting along with other people is knowing that the other person might not be thinkin in the same way as you.* *THE GENESIS OF PROGRESS IS DISOBEDIENCE. * *THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIA FREE EMAIL ADDRESS. * *YOU MAY BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WELL-READ PERSON,BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF THE HEART AND/or MATTERS OF THE LOINS - WE ARE ALL IDIOTS. * Note: forwarded message attached. Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/---BeginMessage--- Utah lawmaker says LGBT people are America's greatest threat. Watch the video and take action! Dear Patrick, They're probably the greatest threat to America going down I know of. So what's America's greatest threat? The weakest economy in 80 years? Widespread layoffs, bank collapses, meltdown in the auto industry and a housing crisis? Not according to Utah State Sen. Chris Buttars. In a recent interview obtained by HRC, he says America's greatest threat is the LGBT community. He goes on to call lesbian and gay relationships abominations and claims LGBT people lack morals. Watch now Just appalling. We need to make sure that these kinds of remarks by a public official do not go unanswered. Call on Utah's Senate President to publicly condemn Sen. Buttars' remarks immediately. Words matter. They can't just be laughed or shrugged off. In the interview, Sen. Buttars calls LGBT people the meanest buggers I've ever seen – this kind of rhetoric creates an atmosphere of hatred that incites violence against LGBT Americans. Here are a few more lowlights from Buttars' vile rant: * LGBT people are destroying the Constitution. * Their number one goal is to proselytize to youth and use schools as a recruiting station. * Thanks to them we are, moving toward a society that has no morals. * They will destroy the foundation of American society... In my mind, it is the beginning of the end. What's more, Sen. Buttars also takes clear pride in saying he's killed every piece of pro-equality legislation in Utah for eight years. These remarks were not made behind closed doors, but openly and unapologetically in a January 30th on-camera interview with filmmaker Reed Cowen, taped in Buttars' official Senate office. Sadly, hateful speech is nothing new to Buttars. During debate over a school-funding bill last year, he said This baby is black... It's a dark, ugly thing, sparking the NAACP to call for his resignation. Will Utah's leaders hold Sen. Buttars accountable? Will they tolerate shameless bigotry in their chamber? Write to Utah's Senate President today and tell him to denounce Buttars' remarks. Then tell your friends about Sen. Buttars' outrageous comments and ask them to write in too. There's no lie too hateful, no tactic too low, for right-wing bigots to use in their campaign against LGBT rights and freedoms. The only one who can stop them is you. Thank you for taking action. Warmly, Joe Solmonese President This link is specific to you, so please take action on this campaign before you forward to your friends. Having trouble clicking on the links above? Simply copy and paste this URL into your browser's address bar: http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/campaign/buttars © 2009 The Human Rights Campaign. All rights reserved. Human Rights Campaign | www.hrc.org 1640 Rhode Island Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20036-3278 Phone: 202/628-4160 TTY: 202/216-1572 Fax: 202/347-5323 Do not reply to this email. This inbox is not monitored on a regular basis. Replies to this email will not be read or responded to. If you would like to unsubscribe from a specific Human Rights Campaign list, or update your account settings, you can visit your Subscription Management Page. Click here to remove yourself from all Human Rights Campaign lists. ---End Message---
Re: g_b Planing for gay thamed flim fest in Dubai....
Yes could u tell me also as to how can i get a copy of these movies.? Signature- *RISK MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS SAFE, CARE MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS WISE, DREAM MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS PRACTICAL, EXPECT MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS POSSIBLE.* *PERSPECTIVE- what does this say - Godisnowhere did u read,'God is no where?' or did u read,'God is now here?' We dont always see the same thing as other people-its all about perspective-one of the most important tools in getting along with other people is knowing that the other person might not be thinkin in the same way as you.* *THE GENESIS OF PROGRESS IS DISOBEDIENCE. * *THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIA FREE EMAIL ADDRESS. * *YOU MAY BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WELL-READ PERSON,BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF THE HEART AND/or MATTERS OF THE LOINS - WE ARE ALL IDIOTS. * --- On Thu, 6/11/08, haytham moudrek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: haytham moudrek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: g_b Planing for gay thamed flim fest in Dubai To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 12:56 AM hi how can i get a copy of these movies? regards --- On Fri, 9/12/08, nicky b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nicky b [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: g_b Planing for gay thamed flim fest in Dubai To: G_B gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gb gb [EMAIL PROTECTED], sanjay [EMAIL PROTECTED], sanjay [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:28 PM Dear all... I am thinking for a small flim fest in Dubai, UAE... I have some movies which we cld see and njoy some time knowing eachother... Pls pass this massage to ppl who are there in UAE... These are the movies which i have wid me... Edge of Seventeen Just One Time Love! Valour! Compassion! NGC – Taboo (Docmentry) Straight Jacket The Birdcage The Wedding Banquet To Wong Foo-Thanks for Everything! J.N. Touch of Pink Unconditional Love Dead Boyz Don't Scream East Side Story Eating Out Eating Out 2 - Sloppy Seconds Friends And Family Outing Riley The Houseboy THE OBJECT OF MY AFFECTION Nick Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
g_b Article in ht cafe on gay bars(nicely written)
There is a nice article in today's cafe supplement of the hindustan times in mumbai.. Its about the fun one can get going to gay bars.. The journalist has written what all happens there,what all one needs to be able to go to a gay bar.-whether he/she is gay/straight.. And about his personal experience of how boring a straight bar can be.. Its on page 23 under the CHEMISTRY heading. Signature- *RISK MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS SAFE, CARE MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS WISE, DREAM MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS PRACTICAL, EXPECT MORE THAN WHAT OTHERS THINK IS POSSIBLE.* *PERSPECTIVE- what does this say - Godisnowhere did u read,'God is no where?' or did u read,'God is now here?' We dont always see the same thing as other people-its all about perspective-one of the most important tools in getting along with other people is knowing that the other person might not be thinkin in the same way as you.* *THE GENESIS OF PROGRESS IS DISOBEDIENCE. * *THIS IS A HOMOPHOBIA FREE EMAIL ADDRESS. * *YOU MAY BE THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WELL-READ PERSON,BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF THE HEART AND/or MATTERS OF THE LOINS - WE ARE ALL IDIOTS. * Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
g_b Gay article in pune midday
Saw this article on the midday website under pune headin.. Read the link below.. :-) http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/oct/201008-dan-wolman-israeli-directors-tied-hands-gay-boy-children-asian-film-festival-pune.htm Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php
g_b Vote for gay marriage in mumbai on www.Mid-day.com
Go to www.Mid-day.com and under the column of Mumbai vote for legalising gay marriages.. Asap.. Lets make ourselves heard.. Todays mondays midday has a two page article on gays.. Its the only paper which dares to talk about homosexuality.. I think v should support midday by going on their site and voting in our own favor.. Regards. Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
Re: g_b Any good Counsellors in delhi for gay counselling ?
I agree with you completely.:-) --- Manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear I, one thing which nearly always works (an i hate to say this) is mothers luv we wretched children a bit too much and inspite of the child turning out to a fucked up criminal, she does not act aka Nargis in Mother India. Chances of her severing ties are low .very low. especially if our guy in question is the only son and it is not a huge family kinda affair at his end. I believe there will hardly be any cases anyone can say that their mothers threw them out of their houses and severed ties when they came out to thembrothers and fathers maybe (more becoz of the male ego here) but mothers .. naw...hez safe (sounds so bad and oppresive ... yes...but a fact). What normally does happen is that the mom, believing it to be in the best interest of her son from her point of view, will keep on coercing him to change and try to get married (ek baar kaushish to kar ke dekh le stuff), try a lot of emotional blackmail (and they r the masters in this anydayask daddy) Not often has this led to the gay guy in question succumbing and spending his life thinking yeh kya kiyaa maine. Hence counselling if any is needed by ur friend. Naz (lajpat nagar) runs a phone helpline as well as a counselling centre. he may drop in. Better if he interacts with groups active in Delhi where he can get to know people who have been through these kinds of issues and know the pitfalls. There is a good group (gays and lezs both) which meets each sunday at Nehru park (NOT for cruising inspite of the fame the place has) for just a walk/jog. The mom, in her luv and her belief for what is right and best for her son, will really gain little for any counselor per se. The only help a mom can get and i say it from experience. is if she gets to know that there are other families which have similar kids and have accepted them and the fact that her child is thinking and working on SETTLING with a guy whi will be there with him thru thick and thin both these are beyond what u and a counselor can provide for now so better work on the earlier part. Rgds Manoj icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello friends, Recently, one of my gay friends (who is in his early thirties) came out to his mother and, as is the situation in most cases, the mother has not taken to it kindlymy pal thinks that worse-cum-worse,she may even sever her ties with him, a thought which shatters him as he is very close to her. He does not have a father. He doesn't have any pillars of support in his immediate family or friend circle who can stand by his side.Even though my friend is putting up a brave front, I know that he requires assistance. Sitting in Bby, i can't do anything, but for just being by his side on the phone as much as i can. In view of the foregoing, can anyone please give me the names contact details of some good counsellors in Delhi (preferably south delhi), who'd be able to counsel the mother-son duo? More then the son, the mother requires it, from whatever i could gather, to get to terms with this revelation Thanks in advance to everyone. Regards, I Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food and more. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/
g_b Cookin meet 18 nov
Hi guys.. This is Dr.Shroff here.. Well i didnt say Manoj ( my first name ) in the first place because there is another Manoj on the list here,well im the other Manoj now.. :-) i dont generally post on here but. But.. I have been on this list for the last 2 and a half years.. Yeah thats right.. So im here because i wanna share an experience of mine with u guys.. (not just a regular experience,but one that has changed me for good) A lot of you must b like me.. I suppose.. On the list , but too apprehensive to attend any gb event.. I mean.. You must be on gb virtually.. But not in the actual gb events.. This november 17 saturday night i opened my yahoo inbox to more unread emails than i know to count.:-).. And God alone knows why i clicked on the gb mail about the cookin meet on nov 18 and dunno y but i replied back to Vikram that i was interested.. And next day i find myself on my way to bandra... I was apprehensive all along the way thinkin weird things in my mind.. In bandra i met vikram at just around the corner and v proceeded to the guys place hosting the cookin meet.. Initially i was new,didnt know anybody, was apprehensive,but then one by one all of em spoke to me, made me feel so much @ home.. Within no time i was like laughin and jokin and talkin to them as though id known each one of em for much longer.. V all had such a gr8 time flippin magazines' pages.. Talkin and laughin over just anything.. And yes yes v all did help in the cookin.. Some of the guys were in tears.. Because they were the ones cuttin the onions.And we were all happy and gay.:). And somehow v all gay guys ended up puttin up a grand show.. The cooks arrived , the raw vegetables arrived, the eaters arrived.. All that was then left to do was to.. Cook.. And yes i did learn how to light a gas burner.:-). He he.. V made gujarati mandvi na na wait what was it.. Yeah it was Khandvi or khandvo:-). Was damn tasty.. The taste was there in that part of it that was burnt.:-). He eh heh eh.. And then v made a GAY RAITA:-). Why gay.? Because it was PINK RAITA.:-). Kudos to the cook.. ( im not takin any names here ) and then v made rice.. And paneer capsicum:-) which was damn tasty.. So damn tasty so damn tasty that v were all slurrpin our finger tips and i believe there is no one who attended the cookin meet who would disagree with me on this.:) kudos to the paneer capsicum cook.:-). Then v made dhoklas:-) not one plate but plate after plate of dhoklas were being rolled outta the kitchen.. And each with a different flavor.:-). Plus two different chutneys:-). Ah thats called a GAY FOOD FIESTA:-):. Plust v had a few more dishes that i cannot exactly recollect.. Somebody tell me what were the other dishes.. Kudos to the guy who made khandvo and dhoklas.:-) It was very kind of the host to serve us MINUTE MAID ORANGE JUICE CHOCOLATES.:-) OK YEAH YEAH IT WAS THE COOKIN MEET.. But what i loved most were the CHOCOLATES.:-). Ah and did i mention that these chocolates ( m and m hazelnut nutties ) were the ones that introduced to my current boyfriend.:-). O yeah.:-):-):-). Vikram and others were constantly at my heels tellin me to post a report on my experience at the cookin meet since it was the first ever event i attended in gb.. And im so sorry guys i took so long to post it.. Its 8 december today and the meet was on the 18 of november.. But anyways.. This saturday mornin here i am with my report.:-):-):-).. Its been such a great experience such a great experience :) that i have no words to express myself.. I have also been for one more gb event after that.. The meet on LIVING WITH HIV at zouk.:-) that was gr8 too.:-). Destiny has a role to play in everything.. And im thankful to it for that.. And today i laugh at my own funny apprehensions less that a month back.. About attendin any gb event.. The real eye opener is to attend a gb event in person.:-) its the MOST COMFORTABLE AND SAFEST place for us to flock with other guys of a same feather .:-) as i sit here this mornin relaxin back in a cafe coffee day bar watchin the world pass by and listnin to SPEEDIN CARS by this band IMOGEN HEPP , WAITIN FOR MY BOYFRIEND.:-) I realise that life is full of beauty and purity and innocence.. If its there within us.. Because i beleive that.. what v see outside is simply a reflection of whats there within us.:-). O yeah.:-):-):-). Lots of hugs for everyone.:-):-):-)... -Manoj. WHEN GOD TAKES U TO THE END OF THE CLIFF,ONLY ONE OF TWO THINGS CAN HAPPEN,EITHER HE WILL CATCH U WHEN U FALL OR HE WILL TEACH U HOW TO FLY,HAVE FAITH IN GOD,GOD IS OUR PARENT.:-) Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php
Re: g_b Coming Out To Mom by Umang
That is such a beautiful story.. Im gonna make my mom read this email for sure.. I came out to her a month back.. Thanx for taking the pains to type all that.. That mail really means a lot to me.. -Original Mail- From: Moderator Sent: Tuesday, 10th July 2007 10:57 am To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: g_b Coming Out To Mom by Umang Coming Out To Mom by Umang http://wp.gaybombay.org/?p=31 Gosh! I wanted to tell this to my mom so badly. My god! today these words come out so easily and a few years back it seemed so impossible. I have visualized telling this to my mom and her reactions - over hundred times in my mind. And I really underestimated her. Because I had solid reasons for that. My mom is a very conventional middle class Gujarati women. Who hardly speaks a few words in English and understands little bit. She has just passed SSC. She has never read a magazine or a newspaper as far as I know. But she loves to watch TV. She has a few friends and a very limited exposure to the outside world. Family is everything to her. And that's not all. Everyday is a challenge for her. She is schizophrenic and has glaucoma. Which means her I Q is less than average and can only see with one eye - only 20%. ' I came out 5 yrs back to my brother, Uncle, Aunt, two cousins. And my dad (indirectly - my aunt and uncle spilled the beans). They took me to a shrink who advised that nothing could be done if I willingly don't want to change. So my close family (except my mom and grandpa) no longer asked me to get married. Well occasionally they would get jhatkas (u try with a girl, after marriage everything will be okay, look at your mom and for her get married, blah, blah.). But that was out of love and concern and it didn't bother me. What bothered me really was the fact that my mom wasn't aware of my sexuality. Others knew but my own mom was ignorant. It really hurt me -because her ultimate dream is marrying me to a girl. Day and night she talked about my marriage. I guess she never sang a lullaby it was always a wedding lore. So occasionally I would pretend to read the newspaper and give her the news: two guys got married in New York. Two girls are in love in Delhi etc. And she would laugh it out. (I was preparing her for the ultimate shock) My biggest fear was that my mom will get a big shock and go into depression - if I came out to her. . And God forbid, if something happens to her I would be responsible. My family would grill me down. I was advised not to come out to my mom - considering her physical and mental condition. It was a battle between fact and dream. The facts hit me in the face: mom is schizophrenic, has glaucoma, will never understand me. She may get a mental attack or shock. She may cry for years and blame herself. She may also go into a major depression, which could be serious. HOWEVER I also have a burning desire and a beautiful dream. Dream to get married to a guy. A grand wedding where my mom can fulfil all her dreams and wishes she expects from my straight wedding. She could dance, jump and sing her entire quota of wedding lore. There will be the usual hangama of a guju wedding. EVERYTHING WILL AS PER HER DESIRE, ONLY DIFFERENCE: THERE WOULD BE TWO GROOMS INSTEAD. So I had a choice to decide between fact and dream. I had an option to never come out to my mom and kill my dreams or to come out to her and face the consequences. I decided to go for the latter. And I am so glad I did that. One evening, knowing that relatives at dinner will raise my marriage issue, I don't know why but I told her those dreaded words: Mummy mani chokriyo nathi gumti. I don't like girls. I like boys. I am attracted to guys. Initially she thought I was joking and later she said it's all hogwash. Something like that is not possible. I said I was dead serious. She refused to discuss the topic with me. She advised I should meet her shrink. I readily agreed. In the next fortnight she told me twice to visit the shrink. Third time when she insisted I understood that my mom was serious about the visit. My friends advised I should check with the shrink weather he is pro or anti gay. For me the most important matter was that my mom trusts him and is very comfortable with him. I did not care weather he's pro or anti. It was a big risk but I was prepared for it. Driving to the clinic I was very nervous: What if the shrink happens to be a quack and recommends therapy. What if he claims he could cure me? My mom would innocently believe him and make my life a hell - hoping that I could be changed with the shrink's treatment. The first thing the shrink asked me was why I came out to my mom. And I replied I wanted to get married to a guy (God only knows where the guy is going to come from) and I wanted my mom to be present. The shrink turned out to be really professional (thank god). He explained that there are guys and girls like me who are attracted to the same sex and not to the opposite sex. It's
Re: Re: g_b disclosure (of homosexuality) is really the best path to follow as long as violence is not an expected result
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