Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Dheeban Govindarajan]

Hi Taylor,

Thanks for the information. Will check the details out from the website. I
went through once. Also,will follow this conversation. Its good to learn
this process anyway.

Thanks,
Dheeban

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:

> Hi Dheeban,
>
> tl;dr;: You've kind of stumbled into an early procedural process for
> adding new ASF projects, but your interest is very much appreciated.
>
> That's great that you want to get involved! One of the important things
> new/potential Apache projects need to do is develop a community. Your
> interest is a good sign.
>
> At this point the project is an a proposal phase. If the proposal
> discussion is positive (meaning most IPMC members appear to support
> incubating the project), it will move on to a vote. If the vote passes, the
> project will be bootstrapped: code imported, mailing lists and bug tracker
> created, website domain registered, etc.
>
> Admittedly, our documentation can be bit hard to navigate, but I assume
> that you're aware of the ASF Incubator website [1] since you are subscribed
> to this list. Perusing that site will give you more insight into what the
> Incubator is about and how the ASF works.
>
> -Taylor
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Dheeban Govindarajan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > I am newbie in the open-source contribution world. I have not actively
> > contributed to any open source code base, but am interested in being a
> part
> > of this one. I have used a lot of open source code. Have debugged some
> open
> > source code, out of curiosity, have always wondered how such big software
> > gets built in a distributed fashion.
> >
> > Not even sure, if this is the right forum. Please excuse if its not. I
> see
> > this project is in proposal phase, please let me know, if any coding help
> > is required. Would like to be part of a project such as this, and learn
> > something, and contribute as well. Just a bit of background, I am a
> > Software Engineer at eBay, have 5+ years experience coding large scale
> > projects.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dheeban
> >
> >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM, P. Taylor Goetz 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bryan Call  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I added the 3 mentors to the Wiki.  Should we put it up for a vote now?
> >>>
> >>> -Bryan
> >>
> >> Discussion has died down and the project has enough mentors, so I would
> >> say go ahead.
> >>
> >> -Taylor
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[P. Taylor Goetz]

Hi Dheeban,

tl;dr;: You've kind of stumbled into an early procedural process for adding new 
ASF projects, but your interest is very much appreciated.

That's great that you want to get involved! One of the important things 
new/potential Apache projects need to do is develop a community. Your interest 
is a good sign.

At this point the project is an a proposal phase. If the proposal discussion is 
positive (meaning most IPMC members appear to support incubating the project), 
it will move on to a vote. If the vote passes, the project will be 
bootstrapped: code imported, mailing lists and bug tracker created, website 
domain registered, etc.

Admittedly, our documentation can be bit hard to navigate, but I assume that 
you're aware of the ASF Incubator website [1] since you are subscribed to this 
list. Perusing that site will give you more insight into what the Incubator is 
about and how the ASF works.

-Taylor

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/

> On May 11, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Dheeban Govindarajan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Team,
> 
> I am newbie in the open-source contribution world. I have not actively
> contributed to any open source code base, but am interested in being a part
> of this one. I have used a lot of open source code. Have debugged some open
> source code, out of curiosity, have always wondered how such big software
> gets built in a distributed fashion.
> 
> Not even sure, if this is the right forum. Please excuse if its not. I see
> this project is in proposal phase, please let me know, if any coding help
> is required. Would like to be part of a project such as this, and learn
> something, and contribute as well. Just a bit of background, I am a
> Software Engineer at eBay, have 5+ years experience coding large scale
> projects.
> 
> Thanks
> Dheeban
> 
>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bryan Call  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I added the 3 mentors to the Wiki.  Should we put it up for a vote now?
>>> 
>>> -Bryan
>> 
>> Discussion has died down and the project has enough mentors, so I would
>> say go ahead.
>> 
>> -Taylor

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache SystemML project from Incubator

[Henry Saputra]

+1 (binding)


On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Luciano Resende 
wrote:

> Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution
> which establishes Apache SystemML as a new top-level project at the Apache
> Software Foundation, as follows:
>
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0, Don't care.
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator (provide details)
>
> The full text of the resolution is bellow.
>
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>
> Thanks !
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
> the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for
> distribution at no charge to the public, related to declarative,
> large-scale machine learning that compiles to hybrid runtime
> execution plans ranging from single node, in-memory computations,
> to distributed computations such as on Apache Hadoop MapReduce or
> Apache Spark.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SystemML Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
> declarative, large-scale machine learning; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SystemML" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
> SystemML Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of
> the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SystemML
> project:
>
> * Alexandre V Evfimievski   
> * Arvind Surve  
> * Berthold Reinwald 
> * DB Tsai   
> * Deron Eriksson
> * Faraz Makari  
> * Felix Schueler
> * Fred Reiss
> * Glenn Weidner 
> * Henry Saputra 
> * Holden Karau  
> * Joseph Bradley
> * Luciano Resende   
> * Matthias Boehm
> * Nakul Jindal  
> * Mike Dusenberry   
> * Niketan Pansare   
> * Patrick Wendell   
> * Prithviraj Sen
> * Reynold Xin   
> * Rich Bowen
> * Shirish Tatikonda 
> * Xiangrui Meng 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Deron Eriksson be
> appointed
> to the office of Vice President, Apache SystemML, to serve in
> accordance
> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> Bylaws
> of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache SystemML PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> development and increased participation in the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is tasked
> with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> hereafter discharged.
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - May 2017

[John D. Ament]

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:02 AM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > * Podlings presently missing sign off
>
> Edgent and Blurr have a mentor signed off..
>
>
So did two others.  Good catch.  I didn't both to look at that section.
Reports cleaned up and almost shipped.


> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Dheeban Govindarajan]

Hi Team,

I am newbie in the open-source contribution world. I have not actively
contributed to any open source code base, but am interested in being a part
of this one. I have used a lot of open source code. Have debugged some open
source code, out of curiosity, have always wondered how such big software
gets built in a distributed fashion.

Not even sure, if this is the right forum. Please excuse if its not. I see
this project is in proposal phase, please let me know, if any coding help
is required. Would like to be part of a project such as this, and learn
something, and contribute as well. Just a bit of background, I am a
Software Engineer at eBay, have 5+ years experience coding large scale
projects.

Thanks
Dheeban

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:11 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:

>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bryan Call  wrote:
> >
> > I added the 3 mentors to the Wiki.  Should we put it up for a vote now?
> >
> > -Bryan
>
> Discussion has died down and the project has enough mentors, so I would
> say go ahead.
>
> -Taylor

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Francis Liu]

Hi,
I would also like to be a mentor for this project. 
Thanks,Francis

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[P. Taylor Goetz]

> On May 11, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Bryan Call  wrote:
> 
> I added the 3 mentors to the Wiki.  Should we put it up for a vote now?
> 
> -Bryan

Discussion has died down and the project has enough mentors, so I would say go 
ahead.

-Taylor

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Bryan Call]

I added the 3 mentors to the Wiki.  Should we put it up for a vote now?

-Bryan

> On May 11, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Matteo Merli  wrote:
> 
> Great to hear that!
> 
> We will update the proposal wiki.
> 
> Matteo
> 
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:32 AM P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:
> 
>> I’d be willing to mentor as well.
>> 
>> -Taylor
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All -
>>> 
>>> That's 2 mentors. Is there a third?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
 To be clear, yes, I would.
 
> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> Anyone else interested in mentoring?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar.
>> 
>> They asked how long incubation takes. I answered that it depends. We
>> reviewed some of the steps needed in Incubation particularly:
>> 
>> - Release process with correct LICENSE and NOTICE
>> - Community building requirement - especially accepting and promoting
>> someone new from outside the initial committers.
>> - Everything on the ML meaning decisions which might be made in
>> conversation need to be there for a review over a few rotations of the
>> planet. I mentioned BFDLs not being what is wanted and told the 10 year old
>> story of POI’s OOXML flame.
>> - Build infrastructure questions regarding unit tests some of which
>> will be preferred on clusters. Some are currently proprietary. I’m not sure
>> what Apache Infra currently supports so negotiation is required.
>> 
>> I think that there is a good chance for a diverse community that will
>> not be wholly dependent on Yahoo.
>> 
>> End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar and will
>> be asking technical questions. IMO this is not appropriate to an Incubator
>> discussion. Anything that surfaces that is appropriate can be brought back
>> to this discussion.
>>> 
>>> There is no intension to subvert Incubator process.
>>> 
>>> I certainly understand asynchronous global teams. I've spent many
>> years working with development teams in Moscow and India.
>>> 
>>> We can have a separate discussion about how misunderstandings can
>> cause email threads to totally blow up.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:20 AM, John D. Ament 
>> wrote:
 
 I'm sorry but I'm a bit dumb founded by this part of the thread.
>> I'll
 apologize up front for my bluntness.
 
 In the incubator, we're trying to teach projects to deal with
>> asynchronous
 communication.  The last thing we should be doing is encouraging
>> phone
 calls/real time meetings.  If there are technical questions, and
>> you feel
 they need to be answered prior to starting incubation that's
>> perfectly fine
 - but try to get the answers in ways we would expect, via public
>> mailing
 lists.
 
 John
 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We would like to submit the Pulsar proposal to the incubator.
>> Our
> draft is
>>> available at:
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PulsarProposal
>>> 
>>> A quick overview of Pulsar:
>>> 
>>> Pulsar is a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform
>> running on
>>> commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub semantics over
>> topics,
>>> guaranteed at-least-once delivery of messages, automatic cursor
> management for
>>> subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
>> 
>> Without really knowing the details of a messaging platform and
>> even with
> the danger of comparing apples and oranges... how would you
>> compare for
> 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Matteo Merli]

Great to hear that!

We will update the proposal wiki.

Matteo

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:32 AM P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:

> I’d be willing to mentor as well.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All -
> >
> > That's 2 mentors. Is there a third?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >>
> >> To be clear, yes, I would.
> >>
> >>> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else interested in mentoring?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi -
> 
>  I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar.
> 
>  They asked how long incubation takes. I answered that it depends. We
> reviewed some of the steps needed in Incubation particularly:
> 
>  - Release process with correct LICENSE and NOTICE
>  - Community building requirement - especially accepting and promoting
> someone new from outside the initial committers.
>  - Everything on the ML meaning decisions which might be made in
> conversation need to be there for a review over a few rotations of the
> planet. I mentioned BFDLs not being what is wanted and told the 10 year old
> story of POI’s OOXML flame.
>  - Build infrastructure questions regarding unit tests some of which
> will be preferred on clusters. Some are currently proprietary. I’m not sure
> what Apache Infra currently supports so negotiation is required.
> 
>  I think that there is a good chance for a diverse community that will
> not be wholly dependent on Yahoo.
> 
>  End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Dave
> 
> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar and will
> be asking technical questions. IMO this is not appropriate to an Incubator
> discussion. Anything that surfaces that is appropriate can be brought back
> to this discussion.
> >
> > There is no intension to subvert Incubator process.
> >
> > I certainly understand asynchronous global teams. I've spent many
> years working with development teams in Moscow and India.
> >
> > We can have a separate discussion about how misunderstandings can
> cause email threads to totally blow up.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:20 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry but I'm a bit dumb founded by this part of the thread.
> I'll
> >> apologize up front for my bluntness.
> >>
> >> In the incubator, we're trying to teach projects to deal with
> asynchronous
> >> communication.  The last thing we should be doing is encouraging
> phone
> >> calls/real time meetings.  If there are technical questions, and
> you feel
> >> they need to be answered prior to starting incubation that's
> perfectly fine
> >> - but try to get the answers in ways we would expect, via public
> mailing
> >> lists.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote:
> >
> > Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> >
> >
> > We would like to submit the Pulsar proposal to the incubator.
> Our
> >>> draft is
> > available at:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PulsarProposal
> >
> > A quick overview of Pulsar:
> >
> > Pulsar is a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform
> running on
> > commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub semantics over
> topics,
> > guaranteed at-least-once delivery of messages, automatic cursor
> >>> management for
> > subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
> 
>  Without really knowing the details of a messaging platform and
> even with
> >>> the danger of comparing apples and oranges... how would you
> compare for
> >>> example hazelcast based messaging to pulsar?
> 
>  bye Jochen
> 
> 
> -
>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
>  

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[P. Taylor Goetz]

I’d be willing to mentor as well.

-Taylor


> On May 11, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi All -
> 
> That's 2 mentors. Is there a third?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> To be clear, yes, I would.
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> Anyone else interested in mentoring?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
 I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar.
 
 They asked how long incubation takes. I answered that it depends. We 
 reviewed some of the steps needed in Incubation particularly:
 
 - Release process with correct LICENSE and NOTICE
 - Community building requirement - especially accepting and promoting 
 someone new from outside the initial committers.
 - Everything on the ML meaning decisions which might be made in 
 conversation need to be there for a review over a few rotations of the 
 planet. I mentioned BFDLs not being what is wanted and told the 10 year 
 old story of POI’s OOXML flame.
 - Build infrastructure questions regarding unit tests some of which will 
 be preferred on clusters. Some are currently proprietary. I’m not sure 
 what Apache Infra currently supports so negotiation is required.
 
 I think that there is a good chance for a diverse community that will not 
 be wholly dependent on Yahoo.
 
 End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar and will be 
> asking technical questions. IMO this is not appropriate to an Incubator 
> discussion. Anything that surfaces that is appropriate can be brought 
> back to this discussion.
> 
> There is no intension to subvert Incubator process.
> 
> I certainly understand asynchronous global teams. I've spent many years 
> working with development teams in Moscow and India.
> 
> We can have a separate discussion about how misunderstandings can cause 
> email threads to totally blow up.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:20 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sorry but I'm a bit dumb founded by this part of the thread.  I'll
>> apologize up front for my bluntness.
>> 
>> In the incubator, we're trying to teach projects to deal with 
>> asynchronous
>> communication.  The last thing we should be doing is encouraging phone
>> calls/real time meetings.  If there are technical questions, and you feel
>> they need to be answered prior to starting incubation that's perfectly 
>> fine
>> - but try to get the answers in ways we would expect, via public mailing
>> lists.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou  
 wrote:
 
 
 
> On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote:
> 
> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
> 
> 
> We would like to submit the Pulsar proposal to the incubator.  Our
>>> draft is
> available at:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PulsarProposal
> 
> A quick overview of Pulsar:
> 
> Pulsar is a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform running on
> commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub semantics over topics,
> guaranteed at-least-once delivery of messages, automatic cursor
>>> management for
> subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
 
 Without really knowing the details of a messaging platform and even 
 with
>>> the danger of comparing apples and oranges... how would you compare for
>>> example hazelcast based messaging to pulsar?
 
 bye Jochen
 
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>>> 
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

[Dave Fisher]

Hi All -

That's 2 mentors. Is there a third?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> To be clear, yes, I would.
> 
>> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Anyone else interested in mentoring?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar.
>>> 
>>> They asked how long incubation takes. I answered that it depends. We 
>>> reviewed some of the steps needed in Incubation particularly:
>>> 
>>> - Release process with correct LICENSE and NOTICE
>>> - Community building requirement - especially accepting and promoting 
>>> someone new from outside the initial committers.
>>> - Everything on the ML meaning decisions which might be made in 
>>> conversation need to be there for a review over a few rotations of the 
>>> planet. I mentioned BFDLs not being what is wanted and told the 10 year old 
>>> story of POI’s OOXML flame.
>>> - Build infrastructure questions regarding unit tests some of which will be 
>>> preferred on clusters. Some are currently proprietary. I’m not sure what 
>>> Apache Infra currently supports so negotiation is required.
>>> 
>>> I think that there is a good chance for a diverse community that will not 
>>> be wholly dependent on Yahoo.
>>> 
>>> End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar and will be 
 asking technical questions. IMO this is not appropriate to an Incubator 
 discussion. Anything that surfaces that is appropriate can be brought back 
 to this discussion.
 
 There is no intension to subvert Incubator process.
 
 I certainly understand asynchronous global teams. I've spent many years 
 working with development teams in Moscow and India.
 
 We can have a separate discussion about how misunderstandings can cause 
 email threads to totally blow up.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:20 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry but I'm a bit dumb founded by this part of the thread.  I'll
> apologize up front for my bluntness.
> 
> In the incubator, we're trying to teach projects to deal with asynchronous
> communication.  The last thing we should be doing is encouraging phone
> calls/real time meetings.  If there are technical questions, and you feel
> they need to be answered prior to starting incubation that's perfectly 
> fine
> - but try to get the answers in ways we would expect, via public mailing
> lists.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote:
 
 Dear Apache Incubator Community,
 
 
 We would like to submit the Pulsar proposal to the incubator.  Our
>> draft is
 available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PulsarProposal
 
 A quick overview of Pulsar:
 
 Pulsar is a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform running on
 commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub semantics over topics,
 guaranteed at-least-once delivery of messages, automatic cursor
>> management for
 subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
>>> 
>>> Without really knowing the details of a messaging platform and even with
>> the danger of comparing apples and oranges... how would you compare for
>> example hazelcast based messaging to pulsar?
>>> 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

[Deron Eriksson]

John and Luciano,

I have also updated master to remove the screen captures with a comment to
clear future screen capture usage in ASF releases with ASF legal.

https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/5c9291b52bec46803e905b0c8cf82959e2a35e7c

Deron


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Luciano Resende 
wrote:

> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:31 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > Bertrand,
> >
> > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament 
> > > wrote:
> > > > ...While there is
> > > > no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared
> up
> > by
> > > > the time they graduate, and the current release indicates they are
> > not...
> > >
> > > Does this mean you are opposed to SystemML graduating at this point?
> > >
> > >
> > I am.  However, I'll point out that the last podling in this situation,
> > Kylin, did re-roll a release to fix the remaining issues, and was able to
> > get me to vote a +1 on their graduation.  I do not plan to vote a -1 on
> > SystemML
> >
> >
> > > Luciano's reference to releases 0.12 and 0.13 passing without
> > > problems, as well as (at least) 3 ASF members on the proposed PMC make
> > > me confident about graduating.
> > >
> >
> > I believe the reasons the last two releases passed cleanly has more to do
> > with who reviewed those releases and what they were looking for rather
> than
> > something new.  The LICENSE issues I noted have existed for 6 months,
> those
> > two releases are less than 6 months old.  Simply not enough time on my
> side
> > to review all releases.
> >
> > Each of SystemML's releases have gotten better, it just concerns me that
> in
> > their last release they agreed to fix things in the next release - which
> is
> > conceivably outside the incubator.
> >
> >
>
> FYI, the issues you mentioned related to 0.14 release have been fixed in
> master:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/
> 88e79bb341ea099e932cd85ace75389a5cb53ca7
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/
> 8ad35c5b1a6958862dfab3d5f6232988ce57f36e
>
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
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>



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Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

[Luciano Resende]

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:31 AM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> Bertrand,
>
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament 
> > wrote:
> > > ...While there is
> > > no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared up
> by
> > > the time they graduate, and the current release indicates they are
> not...
> >
> > Does this mean you are opposed to SystemML graduating at this point?
> >
> >
> I am.  However, I'll point out that the last podling in this situation,
> Kylin, did re-roll a release to fix the remaining issues, and was able to
> get me to vote a +1 on their graduation.  I do not plan to vote a -1 on
> SystemML
>
>
> > Luciano's reference to releases 0.12 and 0.13 passing without
> > problems, as well as (at least) 3 ASF members on the proposed PMC make
> > me confident about graduating.
> >
>
> I believe the reasons the last two releases passed cleanly has more to do
> with who reviewed those releases and what they were looking for rather than
> something new.  The LICENSE issues I noted have existed for 6 months, those
> two releases are less than 6 months old.  Simply not enough time on my side
> to review all releases.
>
> Each of SystemML's releases have gotten better, it just concerns me that in
> their last release they agreed to fix things in the next release - which is
> conceivably outside the incubator.
>
>

FYI, the issues you mentioned related to 0.14 release have been fixed in
master:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/88e79bb341ea099e932cd85ace75389a5cb53ca7
https://github.com/apache/incubator-systemml/commit/8ad35c5b1a6958862dfab3d5f6232988ce57f36e




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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache SystemML project from Incubator

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

+1

Regards
JB

On 05/11/2017 02:40 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:

Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution
which establishes Apache SystemML as a new top-level project at the Apache
Software Foundation, as follows:

[ ] +1, Graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator.
[ ] +0, Don't care.
[ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator (provide details)

The full text of the resolution is bellow.

If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.

Thanks !

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for
distribution at no charge to the public, related to declarative,
large-scale machine learning that compiles to hybrid runtime
execution plans ranging from single node, in-memory computations,
to distributed computations such as on Apache Hadoop MapReduce or
Apache Spark.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache SystemML Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
declarative, large-scale machine learning; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SystemML" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
SystemML Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of
the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SystemML
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SystemML
project:

* Alexandre V Evfimievski   
* Arvind Surve  
* Berthold Reinwald 
* DB Tsai   
* Deron Eriksson
* Faraz Makari  
* Felix Schueler
* Fred Reiss
* Glenn Weidner 
* Henry Saputra 
* Holden Karau  
* Joseph Bradley
* Luciano Resende   
* Matthias Boehm
* Nakul Jindal  
* Mike Dusenberry   
* Niketan Pansare   
* Patrick Wendell   
* Prithviraj Sen
* Reynold Xin   
* Rich Bowen
* Shirish Tatikonda 
* Xiangrui Meng 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Deron Eriksson be
appointed
to the office of Vice President, Apache SystemML, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws
of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache SystemML PMC be and hereby is tasked
with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
development and increased participation in the Apache SystemML
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is tasked
with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
SystemML podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
SystemML podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
hereafter discharged.




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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache SystemML project from Incubator

[Luciano Resende]

Off course, my +1

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Luciano Resende 
wrote:

> Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution
> which establishes Apache SystemML as a new top-level project at the Apache
> Software Foundation, as follows:
>
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0, Don't care.
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator (provide
> details)
>
> The full text of the resolution is bellow.
>
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>
> Thanks !
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
> the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for
> distribution at no charge to the public, related to declarative,
> large-scale machine learning that compiles to hybrid runtime
> execution plans ranging from single node, in-memory computations,
> to distributed computations such as on Apache Hadoop MapReduce or
> Apache Spark.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SystemML Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
> declarative, large-scale machine learning; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SystemML" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
> SystemML Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of
> the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SystemML
> project:
>
> * Alexandre V Evfimievski   
> * Arvind Surve  
> * Berthold Reinwald 
> * DB Tsai   
> * Deron Eriksson
> * Faraz Makari  
> * Felix Schueler
> * Fred Reiss
> * Glenn Weidner 
> * Henry Saputra 
> * Holden Karau  
> * Joseph Bradley
> * Luciano Resende   
> * Matthias Boehm
> * Nakul Jindal  
> * Mike Dusenberry   
> * Niketan Pansare   
> * Patrick Wendell   
> * Prithviraj Sen
> * Reynold Xin   
> * Rich Bowen
> * Shirish Tatikonda 
> * Xiangrui Meng 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Deron Eriksson be
> appointed
> to the office of Vice President, Apache SystemML, to serve in
> accordance
> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> Bylaws
> of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache SystemML PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> development and increased participation in the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is tasked
> with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> hereafter discharged.
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>



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Re: [CMS PATCH]

[John D. Ament]

Ben,

Instead of individually listing each status report, there's a permalink in
whimsy that you can leverage.  I would recommend doing that.
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator

I still want to figure out why you can't commit to the website.  You should
have access.

John


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 5:03 AM Benjamin Young 
wrote:

> Clone URL (Committers only):
>
> https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=bigbluehat;action=diff;uri=http://incubator.apache.org/projects%2F
>
> Updates the annotator.xml with our newest committer (huzzah!) and our most
> recent board report.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Index: trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml
> ===
> --- trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml(revision 1794273)
> +++ trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml(working copy)
> @@ -99,7 +99,12 @@
>
>
>  .
> +http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=tbdinesh;>tbdinesh
> +TB Dinesh
> +  
> +  
>  .
> +.
>  ...other committer accounts still in the works...
>
>  
> @@ -107,6 +112,7 @@
>
>  Incubation status reports
>  
> +  https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017;>2017
> April
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2017;>2017
> January
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016;>2016
> December
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2016;>2016
> October
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

[John D. Ament]

Bertrand,

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> > ...While there is
> > no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared up by
> > the time they graduate, and the current release indicates they are not...
>
> Does this mean you are opposed to SystemML graduating at this point?
>
>
I am.  However, I'll point out that the last podling in this situation,
Kylin, did re-roll a release to fix the remaining issues, and was able to
get me to vote a +1 on their graduation.  I do not plan to vote a -1 on
SystemML


> Luciano's reference to releases 0.12 and 0.13 passing without
> problems, as well as (at least) 3 ASF members on the proposed PMC make
> me confident about graduating.
>

I believe the reasons the last two releases passed cleanly has more to do
with who reviewed those releases and what they were looking for rather than
something new.  The LICENSE issues I noted have existed for 6 months, those
two releases are less than 6 months old.  Simply not enough time on my side
to review all releases.

Each of SystemML's releases have gotten better, it just concerns me that in
their last release they agreed to fix things in the next release - which is
conceivably outside the incubator.


>
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>
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[CMS PATCH]

[Benjamin Young]

Clone URL (Committers only):
https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=bigbluehat;action=diff;uri=http://incubator.apache.org/projects%2F

Updates the annotator.xml with our newest committer (huzzah!) and our most 
recent board report.

Thanks!

Index: trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml
===
--- trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml(revision 1794273)
+++ trunk/content/projects/annotator.xml(working copy)
@@ -99,7 +99,12 @@
   
   
 .
+http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=tbdinesh;>tbdinesh
+TB Dinesh
+  
+  
 .
+.
 ...other committer accounts still in the works...
   
 
@@ -107,6 +112,7 @@
   
 Incubation status reports
 
+  https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2017;>2017 
April
   https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2017;>2017 
January
   https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016;>2016 
December
   https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2016;>2016 
October


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache SystemML project from Incubator

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Luciano Resende  wrote:
> Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution..

It's unclear from the last message from John Ament In the
"[DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation" thread whether his
concerns have been addressed.

I have asked for clarification there, please wait for his answer
before tallying this vote, assuming he replies in a reasonable amount
of time.

I am +1 on the graduation.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache SystemML podling graduation

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi John,

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> ...While there is
> no perfect release, we do expect all licensing issues to be cleared up by
> the time they graduate, and the current release indicates they are not...

Does this mean you are opposed to SystemML graduating at this point?

Luciano's reference to releases 0.12 and 0.13 passing without
problems, as well as (at least) 3 ASF members on the proposed PMC make
me confident about graduating.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache SystemML project from Incubator

[Pierre Smits]

+1

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Luciano Resende 
wrote:

> Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution
> which establishes Apache SystemML as a new top-level project at the Apache
> Software Foundation, as follows:
>
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0, Don't care.
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache SystemML from the Incubator (provide details)
>
> The full text of the resolution is bellow.
>
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>
> Thanks !
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
> purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
> the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for
> distribution at no charge to the public, related to declarative,
> large-scale machine learning that compiles to hybrid runtime
> execution plans ranging from single node, in-memory computations,
> to distributed computations such as on Apache Hadoop MapReduce or
> Apache Spark.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SystemML Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
> declarative, large-scale machine learning; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SystemML" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
> SystemML Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of
> the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SystemML
> project:
>
> * Alexandre V Evfimievski   
> * Arvind Surve  
> * Berthold Reinwald 
> * DB Tsai   
> * Deron Eriksson
> * Faraz Makari  
> * Felix Schueler
> * Fred Reiss
> * Glenn Weidner 
> * Henry Saputra 
> * Holden Karau  
> * Joseph Bradley
> * Luciano Resende   
> * Matthias Boehm
> * Nakul Jindal  
> * Mike Dusenberry   
> * Niketan Pansare   
> * Patrick Wendell   
> * Prithviraj Sen
> * Reynold Xin   
> * Rich Bowen
> * Shirish Tatikonda 
> * Xiangrui Meng 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Deron Eriksson be
> appointed
> to the office of Vice President, Apache SystemML, to serve in
> accordance
> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> Bylaws
> of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache SystemML PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> development and increased participation in the Apache SystemML
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SystemML Project be and hereby is tasked
> with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> SystemML podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> hereafter discharged.
>
>
> --
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> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - May 2017

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> * Podlings presently missing sign off

Edgent and Blurr have a mentor signed off..

Thanks,
Justin

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