Re: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:54 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> I think we could put it into the wiki page to let other community
> developers know about the policy.
> BTW, we could also put the license check into the checklist of release
> candidate.

I've already added to release guide:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website/blob/asf-site/docs/en-us/developers/committer-guide/release-guide_dev.md#check-third-party-dependencies

>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:38 PM kezhenxu94  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >   I've excluded the `hibernate-core` dependency and verified as follows:
> >
> >
> > $ mvn license:add-third-party -Dlicense.useMissingFile
> > $ cat dubbo-admin-server/target/generated-sources/license/THIRD-PARTY.txt | 
> > grep "General Public License"
> >
> >
> > here is the output
> >
> >
> >  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public License) 
> > Logback Classic Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:1.2.3 - 
> > http://logback.qos.ch/logback-classic)
> >  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public License) 
> > Logback Core Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-core:1.2.3 - 
> > http://logback.qos.ch/logback-core)
> >
> >
> > also, I've tested that the functionality introduced together with this 
> > dependency[1] works well.
> >
> >
> > I'll check the license next time when I need to introduce new dependencies.
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/pull/324
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > At 2019-04-22 10:17:43, "Huxing Zhang"  wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:11 PM Sheng Wu  
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi.
> > >>
> > >> > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> > >>
> > >> I think "stop distribute the binary" would NOT change the fact the source
> > >> release could lead users to use `hiberante-core`. I doubt this is an 
> > >> option.
> > >
> > >That option is based on my understanding that linking to
> > >"hibernate-core" does not create a derivative work of
> > >"hibernate-core".
> > >Yes, when compiling the source code and run the incubator-dubbo-admin
> > >code, the hibernate-core binary will be included, this
> > >will create a derivative work of "hibernate-core". As long as user do
> > >not distribute it, I think it is fine to use it.
> > >This is the same case as using "spring-boot-starter-data-jpa".
> > >However, it becomes a problem when user want to distributed the
> > >incubator-dubbo-admin binary, it must not be licensed as Apache
> > >license, but should only be GPL/LGPL licensed.
> > >This creates a risk that some user won't use this software because of
> > >the potential license issue, which is not what we want.
> > >So as long as an Apache project does not distribute the binary, IMO it is 
> > >fine.
> > >That is my understanding of why this is an option. It is not a good
> > >option, but I think it is an option.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Also based on the license issue, you should consider canceling this vote,
> > >> and move the further discussion to dev ml.
> > >
> > >I agree that cancel this vote is the safest way for now, before
> > >everything is cleared.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > >>
> > >> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月21日周日 下午11:02写道：
> > >>
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> > >> > licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> > >> > licensed.
> > >> > I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:
> > >> >
> > >> > A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
> > >> > but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
> > >> > with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
> > >> > isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
> > >> > falls outside the scope of this License.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
> > >> > "work that uses the Library".
> > >> >
> > >> > The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
> > >> > case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
> > >> > Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
> > >> > released anyway. Is my understanding correct?
> > >> >
> > >> > Next, the LGPL license says:
> > >> >
> > >> > However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
> > >> > creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
> > >> > contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
> > >> > library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.
> > >> >
> > >> > The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
> > >> > because it creates an executable that contains binary of
> > >> > hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
> 

Re: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Willem Jiang]

I think we could put it into the wiki page to let other community
developers know about the policy.
BTW, we could also put the license check into the checklist of release
candidate.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:38 PM kezhenxu94  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>   I've excluded the `hibernate-core` dependency and verified as follows:
>
>
> $ mvn license:add-third-party -Dlicense.useMissingFile
> $ cat dubbo-admin-server/target/generated-sources/license/THIRD-PARTY.txt | 
> grep "General Public License"
>
>
> here is the output
>
>
>  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public License) 
> Logback Classic Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:1.2.3 - 
> http://logback.qos.ch/logback-classic)
>  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public License) 
> Logback Core Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-core:1.2.3 - 
> http://logback.qos.ch/logback-core)
>
>
> also, I've tested that the functionality introduced together with this 
> dependency[1] works well.
>
>
> I'll check the license next time when I need to introduce new dependencies.
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/pull/324
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> At 2019-04-22 10:17:43, "Huxing Zhang"  wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:11 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> >>
> >> I think "stop distribute the binary" would NOT change the fact the source
> >> release could lead users to use `hiberante-core`. I doubt this is an 
> >> option.
> >
> >That option is based on my understanding that linking to
> >"hibernate-core" does not create a derivative work of
> >"hibernate-core".
> >Yes, when compiling the source code and run the incubator-dubbo-admin
> >code, the hibernate-core binary will be included, this
> >will create a derivative work of "hibernate-core". As long as user do
> >not distribute it, I think it is fine to use it.
> >This is the same case as using "spring-boot-starter-data-jpa".
> >However, it becomes a problem when user want to distributed the
> >incubator-dubbo-admin binary, it must not be licensed as Apache
> >license, but should only be GPL/LGPL licensed.
> >This creates a risk that some user won't use this software because of
> >the potential license issue, which is not what we want.
> >So as long as an Apache project does not distribute the binary, IMO it is 
> >fine.
> >That is my understanding of why this is an option. It is not a good
> >option, but I think it is an option.
> >
> >>
> >> Also based on the license issue, you should consider canceling this vote,
> >> and move the further discussion to dev ml.
> >
> >I agree that cancel this vote is the safest way for now, before
> >everything is cleared.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>
> >> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >>
> >> Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月21日周日 下午11:02写道：
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> >> > licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> >> > licensed.
> >> > I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:
> >> >
> >> > A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
> >> > but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
> >> > with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
> >> > isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
> >> > falls outside the scope of this License.
> >> >
> >> > I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
> >> > "work that uses the Library".
> >> >
> >> > The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
> >> > case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
> >> > Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
> >> > released anyway. Is my understanding correct?
> >> >
> >> > Next, the LGPL license says:
> >> >
> >> > However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
> >> > creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
> >> > contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
> >> > library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.
> >> >
> >> > The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
> >> > because it creates an executable that contains binary of
> >> > hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
> >> > derivative of hibernate-core, it must be licensed with LGPL/GPL, which
> >> > is not allowed as an Apache product, and eventually causes the
> >> > incompatibility.
> >> >
> >> > If my understanding is correct, there are at least 4 ways to solve this
> >> > issue:
> >> > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> >> > 2. Make the feature optional, as explained here[3]
> >> > 3. Stop depending on hiberante-core
> >> > 4. Choose other Apache compatible equivalent
> >> >
> >> > 

Fwd: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Minxuan Zhuang]

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Date: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]
To: 


Hi, this LGPL License issue has been fixed, thanks kezhenxu94, I'll cancel
this vote and start a new one

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:09 PM Huxing Zhang  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:38 PM kezhenxu94  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >   I've excluded the `hibernate-core` dependency and verified as follows:
> >
> >
> > $ mvn license:add-third-party -Dlicense.useMissingFile
> > $ cat
> dubbo-admin-server/target/generated-sources/license/THIRD-PARTY.txt | grep
> "General Public License"
> >
> >
> > here is the output
> >
> >
> >  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public
> License) Logback Classic Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:1.2.3 -
> http://logback.qos.ch/logback-classic)
> >  (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public
> License) Logback Core Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-core:1.2.3 -
> http://logback.qos.ch/logback-core)
> >
>
> These are dual licensed dependencies, so we can choose the most
> permissive one. In this case EPL is compatible with Apache so no issue
> here.
> Be aware that General Public License is just on of the keyword, other
> keywords might also be check like GPL.
>
> >
> > also, I've tested that the functionality introduced together with this
> dependency[1] works well.
> >
> >
> > I'll check the license next time when I need to introduce new
> dependencies.
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/pull/324
> >
> >
> > Thanks
>
>

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:20 PM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > From my understanding, I don't see any issues that stop us from
> > allowing product depend on LGPL licensed software…
>
> Expect that it is against ASF policy as it listed in Category X, and podlings 
> (and TLP) are expected to follow ASF legal / release policy. Please ask why 
> on legal discuss and not here. The incubator doesn’t set legal, release or 
> distribution policy and can only guide podlings on the practical aspects of 
> it.

I have no objection to it. I will consult with legal team about this issue.

>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> From my understanding, I don't see any issues that stop us from
> allowing product depend on LGPL licensed software…

Expect that it is against ASF policy as it listed in Category X, and podlings 
(and TLP) are expected to follow ASF legal / release policy. Please ask why on 
legal discuss and not here. The incubator doesn’t set legal, release or 
distribution policy and can only guide podlings on the practical aspects of it.

Thanks,
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

Just FYI:

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Interesting to note that has been discuss at the board level but no 
> resolution was passed. This was back in 2005 so I’m not aware of the history 
> or why the resolution wasn’t passed [1] a search of the mailing lists from 
> that time may provide an answer.

I've attached the board meeting minutes as below:

28 Jul 2005: Allow product dependencies on LGPL-licensed libraries (tabled) [1]

E. V.P. of Legal Affairs [Cliff Schmidt]

   See Special Orders for two proposed resolutions.

   The first resolution allows PMCs to develop and distribute
   software that depends on the presence of LGPL-licensed
   libraries, *without* distributing the libraries themselves.
   After numerous discussions with the FSF, other LGPL licensors,
   and ASF counsel, Larry Rosen, it appears that such a policy
   should not impact the product licensing.  In order to allow
   PMCs to apply this policy to all useful LGPL-licensed
   libraries, the resolution does not require the PMCs to get
   an agreement from each copyright owner, but instead requires
   the PMC to register the use of the particular LGPL library
   with the VP of Legal Affairs.  See my post to the board@
   list for more details ("My recommendation for an ASF policy on
   the LGPL").

   The second resolution allows PMCs to redistribute MPL/NPL-
   licensed executables.  The key difference between the MPL/NPL
   and the LGPL regarding redistribution requirements is that the
   MPL/NPL allows redistribution under any license (provided that
   the distributor complies with the applicable terms of the
   MPL/NPL); the LGPL requires redistribution of either the source
   or executable of the library to be licensed only under the LGPL.

   While the MPL 1.0, MPL 1.1, NPL 1.0, and NPL 1.1 are nearly
   identical in their treatment of redistribution of executables,
   it is important to note that the NPL licenses are not OSI-
   approved, as they discriminate in favor of Netscape, weakening
   the terms that Netscape has to comply with relative to other
   users.  See my post to the board@ list for more details ("MPL/NPL
   Issue: My recommendation for an ASF policy on the MPL/NPL").

   NOTE: Larry Rosen has agreed with my analysis of the MPL/NPL
   licenses as described in the referenced post; however, yesterday
   he suggested that I confirm that Mitchell Baker also agrees
   (author of the licenses).  I have not yet received her response.
   This could be a reason to table this resolution.


17 Aug 2005: Allow product dependencies on LGPL-licensed libraries (tabled) [2]

E. V.P. of Legal Affairs [Cliff Schmidt]

   I've inserted slightly edited versions of the same MPL/NPL
   and LGPL resolutions, which were tabled last month.

   Since last month's meeting, I have:
 - confirmed with a second member of ASF's legal counsel
   that the proposed LGPL policy does not put our product
   licensing at risk;
 - posted and discussed the proposed LGPL policy on the
   legal-discuss list, where no new concerns were raised
   about the licensing ramifications; however there was
   concern raised by both outside lawyers and Apache
   committers that dependencies on LGPL libraries was not
   in the best interests of some Apache users;
 - engaged with representatives of the Mozilla Foundation
   to discuss the proposed MPL/NPL licensing policy.  While
   they have *not* yet formally indicated their agreement
   with our interpretation, they have not yet raised any
   new concerns.

   Future action items include resolving the BXA/crypto issue
   and investigating and proposing policies for the CPL, EPL,
   and CDDL licenses.

   Finally, one of my short-term objectives is to overhaul the
   legal STATUS file to reflect the current priorities and
   status.


16 Nov 2005: LGPL resolution (tabled) [3]


LGPL: I'm still waiting on feedback from Eben on my
Java/LGPL position paper that I sent him last month. He
wanted to refrain from giving me feedback until
discussing the matter with the FSF. I expect to have
something any day now, since that meeting should have
recently happened.  I recommend we hold off any decision
to allow distribution of LGPL components within non-
incubating product JARs until getting this one last
opinion from Eben and then bouncing it off the rest of
our counsel.  However, I do not think we should have any
legal concern about separately distributing the LGPL and
ASF component that depends on it; both Jason and Larry
have signed off on this question.

The 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Sheng Wu]

Hi

> That option is based on my understanding that linking to
> "hibernate-core" does not create a derivative work of
> "hibernate-core".
> Yes, when compiling the source code and run the incubator-dubbo-admin
> code, the hibernate-core binary will be included, this
> will create a derivative work of "hibernate-core". As long as user do
> not distribute it, I think it is fine to use it.
> This is the same case as using "spring-boot-starter-data-jpa".
> However, it becomes a problem when user want to distributed the
> incubator-dubbo-admin binary, it must not be licensed as Apache
> license, but should only be GPL/LGPL licensed.
> This creates a risk that some user won't use this software because of
> the potential license issue, which is not what we want.
> So as long as an Apache project does not distribute the binary, IMO it is
fine.
> That is my understanding of why this is an option. It is not a good
> option, but I think it is an option.

As an Apache project, we should make sure re-distribution friendly, no
matter what the user intends to do.
So I still think only keep them optional, and the user could download and
use them if they want by themselves.

For the license part, I am not an expert, even not close, but I prefer to
follow the Apache suggestion at this moment. Unless the board or legal team
change that.

As it belongs to Catalog X[1] now and also supported by your answer, LGPL
is not friendly to re-distribution.
I still consider this a license issue.

Also, you could bring this discussion to legal ml, I think.

[1] https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x

Sheng Wu 吴晟

Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月22日周一 上午10:18写道：

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:11 PM Sheng Wu 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> >
> > I think "stop distribute the binary" would NOT change the fact the source
> > release could lead users to use `hiberante-core`. I doubt this is an
> option.
>
> That option is based on my understanding that linking to
> "hibernate-core" does not create a derivative work of
> "hibernate-core".
> Yes, when compiling the source code and run the incubator-dubbo-admin
> code, the hibernate-core binary will be included, this
> will create a derivative work of "hibernate-core". As long as user do
> not distribute it, I think it is fine to use it.
> This is the same case as using "spring-boot-starter-data-jpa".
> However, it becomes a problem when user want to distributed the
> incubator-dubbo-admin binary, it must not be licensed as Apache
> license, but should only be GPL/LGPL licensed.
> This creates a risk that some user won't use this software because of
> the potential license issue, which is not what we want.
> So as long as an Apache project does not distribute the binary, IMO it is
> fine.
> That is my understanding of why this is an option. It is not a good
> option, but I think it is an option.
>
> >
> > Also based on the license issue, you should consider canceling this vote,
> > and move the further discussion to dev ml.
>
> I agree that cancel this vote is the safest way for now, before
> everything is cleared.
>
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月21日周日 下午11:02写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> > > licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> > > licensed.
> > > I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:
> > >
> > > A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
> > > but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
> > > with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
> > > isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
> > > falls outside the scope of this License.
> > >
> > > I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
> > > "work that uses the Library".
> > >
> > > The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
> > > case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
> > > Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
> > > released anyway. Is my understanding correct?
> > >
> > > Next, the LGPL license says:
> > >
> > > However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
> > > creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
> > > contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
> > > library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.
> > >
> > > The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
> > > because it creates an executable that contains binary of
> > > hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
> > > derivative of hibernate-core, it must be licensed with LGPL/GPL, which
> > > is not allowed as an Apache 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> > However, LGPL software does not fit into this case, because in [2]
> > section 5, it says linking to a LGPL software is not considered to
> > create a derivative work.
>
> It still places restriction above and beyond what the ALv2 does and that why 
> it’s listing in Category X. [1]
>
> > Basically I am trying to figure out, why in ASF policy, linking to
> > LGPL code is not allowed. I just want to discuss this issue
> > technically. No other meanings.
>
> I suggest you ask on the legal discuss list they are likely to be able to 
> provide a better answer.

Thanks, I am planning to do that. :-) This issue has confused me for a while.

>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x 
> 



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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Interesting to note that has been discuss at the board level but no resolution 
was passed. This was back in 2005 so I’m not aware of the history or why the 
resolution wasn’t passed [1] a search of the mailing lists from that time may 
provide an answer.

Thanks,
Justin

1,https://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar-2005-2009.html 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:11 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
>
> I think "stop distribute the binary" would NOT change the fact the source
> release could lead users to use `hiberante-core`. I doubt this is an option.

That option is based on my understanding that linking to
"hibernate-core" does not create a derivative work of
"hibernate-core".
Yes, when compiling the source code and run the incubator-dubbo-admin
code, the hibernate-core binary will be included, this
will create a derivative work of "hibernate-core". As long as user do
not distribute it, I think it is fine to use it.
This is the same case as using "spring-boot-starter-data-jpa".
However, it becomes a problem when user want to distributed the
incubator-dubbo-admin binary, it must not be licensed as Apache
license, but should only be GPL/LGPL licensed.
This creates a risk that some user won't use this software because of
the potential license issue, which is not what we want.
So as long as an Apache project does not distribute the binary, IMO it is fine.
That is my understanding of why this is an option. It is not a good
option, but I think it is an option.

>
> Also based on the license issue, you should consider canceling this vote,
> and move the further discussion to dev ml.

I agree that cancel this vote is the safest way for now, before
everything is cleared.

>
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月21日周日 下午11:02写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> > licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> > licensed.
> > I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:
> >
> > A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
> > but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
> > with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
> > isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
> > falls outside the scope of this License.
> >
> > I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
> > "work that uses the Library".
> >
> > The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
> > case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
> > Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
> > released anyway. Is my understanding correct?
> >
> > Next, the LGPL license says:
> >
> > However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
> > creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
> > contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
> > library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.
> >
> > The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
> > because it creates an executable that contains binary of
> > hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
> > derivative of hibernate-core, it must be licensed with LGPL/GPL, which
> > is not allowed as an Apache product, and eventually causes the
> > incompatibility.
> >
> > If my understanding is correct, there are at least 4 ways to solve this
> > issue:
> > 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> > 2. Make the feature optional, as explained here[3]
> > 3. Stop depending on hiberante-core
> > 4. Choose other Apache compatible equivalent
> >
> > I recommend to go with number 3 in my last thread.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://opensource.org/licenses/LGPL-2.1
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited
> > [3] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:40 AM Huxing Zhang  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > ccing dev@dubbo
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi，
> > > >
> > > > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > > > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > > > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > > > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > > > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> > >
> > > I did some dig for this issue and confirm that this is introduced by
> > > this pull request[1].
> > > The purpose of this pull request is to introduce the pagination to
> > > service query.
> > > In this pull request a dependency to spring-boot-starter-data-jpa was
> > added,
> > > which introduce the LGPL licensed dependency hibernate-core.
> > > The detailed dependency tree is shown below:
> > >
> > > [INFO] +-
> > org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-data-jpa:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> > > [INFO] |  +-
> > org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-aop:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> > > [INFO] |  |  \- org.aspectj:aspectjweaver:jar:1.8.13:compile
> > > [INFO] |  +-
> > 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

> However, LGPL software does not fit into this case, because in [2]
> section 5, it says linking to a LGPL software is not considered to
> create a derivative work.

It still places restriction above and beyond what the ALv2 does and that why 
it’s listing in Category X. [1]

> Basically I am trying to figure out, why in ASF policy, linking to
> LGPL code is not allowed. I just want to discuss this issue
> technically. No other meanings.

I suggest you ask on the legal discuss list they are likely to be able to 
provide a better answer.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 8:18 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> > licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> > licensed.
>
> That may be the case for a non ASF project, but it is ASF policy to not 
> depends on GPL code. [1][2]

I understand it is ASF policy to not depend on GPL code. In [1] it
clears states:

We avoid GPLv3 software because merely linking to it is considered by
the GPLv3 authors to create a derivative work

However, LGPL software does not fit into this case, because in [2]
section 5, it says linking to a LGPL software is not considered to
create a derivative work.

Basically I am trying to figure out, why in ASF policy, linking to
LGPL code is not allowed. I just want to discuss this issue
technically. No other meanings.

>
> In short "The Apache Software Foundation does not allow its own projects to 
> distribute software under licenses more restrictive than the Apache License,"

IMO, if what state in [2], section 5, is the case, the source code of
incubator-dubbo-admin, could still be distributed with Apache License.

Maybe I am missing something here, I'd be appreciated if someone could
point it out.

[1]  https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
[2]  https://opensource.org/licenses/LGPL-2.1

>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
> 2. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> licensed.

That may be the case for a non ASF project, but it is ASF policy to not depends 
on GPL code. [1][2]

In short "The Apache Software Foundation does not allow its own projects to 
distribute software under licenses more restrictive than the Apache License,"

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
2. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Sheng Wu]

Hi.

> 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin

I think "stop distribute the binary" would NOT change the fact the source
release could lead users to use `hiberante-core`. I doubt this is an option.

Also based on the license issue, you should consider canceling this vote,
and move the further discussion to dev ml.


Sheng Wu 吴晟

Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


Huxing Zhang  于2019年4月21日周日 下午11:02写道：

> Hi,
>
> I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
> licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
> licensed.
> I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:
>
> A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
> but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
> with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
> isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
> falls outside the scope of this License.
>
> I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
> "work that uses the Library".
>
> The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
> case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
> Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
> released anyway. Is my understanding correct?
>
> Next, the LGPL license says:
>
> However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
> creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
> contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
> library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.
>
> The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
> because it creates an executable that contains binary of
> hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
> derivative of hibernate-core, it must be licensed with LGPL/GPL, which
> is not allowed as an Apache product, and eventually causes the
> incompatibility.
>
> If my understanding is correct, there are at least 4 ways to solve this
> issue:
> 1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
> 2. Make the feature optional, as explained here[3]
> 3. Stop depending on hiberante-core
> 4. Choose other Apache compatible equivalent
>
> I recommend to go with number 3 in my last thread.
>
>
> [1] https://opensource.org/licenses/LGPL-2.1
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited
> [3] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:40 AM Huxing Zhang  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > ccing dev@dubbo
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi，
> > >
> > > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> >
> > I did some dig for this issue and confirm that this is introduced by
> > this pull request[1].
> > The purpose of this pull request is to introduce the pagination to
> > service query.
> > In this pull request a dependency to spring-boot-starter-data-jpa was
> added,
> > which introduce the LGPL licensed dependency hibernate-core.
> > The detailed dependency tree is shown below:
> >
> > [INFO] +-
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-data-jpa:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  +-
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-aop:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  \- org.aspectj:aspectjweaver:jar:1.8.13:compile
> > [INFO] |  +-
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-jdbc:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +- com.zaxxer:HikariCP:jar:2.7.9:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-jdbc:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  +- org.hibernate:hibernate-core:jar:5.2.17.Final:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +-
> >
> org.hibernate.javax.persistence:hibernate-jpa-2.1-api:jar:1.0.0.Final:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +- antlr:antlr:jar:2.7.7:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +- org.jboss:jandex:jar:2.0.3.Final:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +- dom4j:dom4j:jar:1.6.1:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  \-
> >
> org.hibernate.common:hibernate-commons-annotations:jar:5.0.1.Final:compile
> > [INFO] |  +- javax.transaction:javax.transaction-api:jar:1.2:compile
> > [INFO] |  +-
> org.springframework.data:spring-data-jpa:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +-
> > org.springframework.data:spring-data-commons:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  +- org.springframework:spring-orm:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-tx:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> > [INFO] |  \- org.springframework:spring-aspects:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> >
> > Actually the hiberate-core dependency is never used when implementing
> > the feature,
> > I think it can be excluded quietly. This is the safest way to solve this
> issue.
> > 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

I am thinking why spring-boot-starter-data-jpa depends on LGPL
licensed library "hibernate-core", and can still be Apache 2.0
licensed.
I am reading [1]. In section 5 it says:

A program that contains no derivative of any portion of the Library,
but is designed to work with the Library by being compiled or linked
with it, is called a "work that uses the Library". Such a work, in
isolation, is not a derivative work of the Library, and therefore
falls outside the scope of this License.

I think spring-boot-starter-data-jpa falls in to this case. It is a
"work that uses the Library".

The source code of incubator-dubbo-admin should also falls into this
case, because it does not contain any portion of the hibernate-core.
Based on it and explanation here[2], I think the source code can be
released anyway. Is my understanding correct?

Next, the LGPL license says:

However, linking a "work that uses the Library" with the Library
creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it
contains portions of the Library), rather than a "work that uses the
library". The executable is therefore covered by this License.

The binary distribution of incuabator-dubbo-admin falls into this case
because it creates an executable that contains binary of
hibernate-core. Therefore it is a "work based on the library". As a
derivative of hibernate-core, it must be licensed with LGPL/GPL, which
is not allowed as an Apache product, and eventually causes the
incompatibility.

If my understanding is correct, there are at least 4 ways to solve this issue:
1. Stop distribute the binary of incubator-dubbo-admin
2. Make the feature optional, as explained here[3]
3. Stop depending on hiberante-core
4. Choose other Apache compatible equivalent

I recommend to go with number 3 in my last thread.


[1] https://opensource.org/licenses/LGPL-2.1
[2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited
[3] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:40 AM Huxing Zhang  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> ccing dev@dubbo
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
> >
> > Hi，
> >
> > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
>
> I did some dig for this issue and confirm that this is introduced by
> this pull request[1].
> The purpose of this pull request is to introduce the pagination to
> service query.
> In this pull request a dependency to spring-boot-starter-data-jpa was added,
> which introduce the LGPL licensed dependency hibernate-core.
> The detailed dependency tree is shown below:
>
> [INFO] +- 
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-data-jpa:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  +- 
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-aop:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  |  \- org.aspectj:aspectjweaver:jar:1.8.13:compile
> [INFO] |  +- 
> org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-jdbc:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +- com.zaxxer:HikariCP:jar:2.7.9:compile
> [INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-jdbc:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  +- org.hibernate:hibernate-core:jar:5.2.17.Final:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +-
> org.hibernate.javax.persistence:hibernate-jpa-2.1-api:jar:1.0.0.Final:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +- antlr:antlr:jar:2.7.7:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +- org.jboss:jandex:jar:2.0.3.Final:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +- dom4j:dom4j:jar:1.6.1:compile
> [INFO] |  |  \-
> org.hibernate.common:hibernate-commons-annotations:jar:5.0.1.Final:compile
> [INFO] |  +- javax.transaction:javax.transaction-api:jar:1.2:compile
> [INFO] |  +- 
> org.springframework.data:spring-data-jpa:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +-
> org.springframework.data:spring-data-commons:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  |  +- org.springframework:spring-orm:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-tx:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
> [INFO] |  \- org.springframework:spring-aspects:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
>
> Actually the hiberate-core dependency is never used when implementing
> the feature,
> I think it can be excluded quietly. This is the safest way to solve this 
> issue.
> To dig further, the only dependency that required to be added is just
> spring-data-commons,
> which is Apache 2.0 Licensed[2]. (I just confirm the code can compile
> and start correctly with spring-data-commons,
> it might need to check more at runtime to ensure everything is working)
>
> We need to be very careful when new dependency is added,  and ensure
> all the license (including transitive dependencies) are compatible
> with Apache.
>
> The community has identified several similar issues [3][4] for
> incubator-dubbo project, and similar actions should be done to
> incubator-dubbo-admin as well.
>
> To identify the issue 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Huxing Zhang]

Hi,

ccing dev@dubbo

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> Hi，
>
> I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].

I did some dig for this issue and confirm that this is introduced by
this pull request[1].
The purpose of this pull request is to introduce the pagination to
service query.
In this pull request a dependency to spring-boot-starter-data-jpa was added,
which introduce the LGPL licensed dependency hibernate-core.
The detailed dependency tree is shown below:

[INFO] +- 
org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-data-jpa:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  +- 
org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-aop:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  |  \- org.aspectj:aspectjweaver:jar:1.8.13:compile
[INFO] |  +- 
org.springframework.boot:spring-boot-starter-jdbc:jar:2.0.2.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  |  +- com.zaxxer:HikariCP:jar:2.7.9:compile
[INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-jdbc:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  +- org.hibernate:hibernate-core:jar:5.2.17.Final:compile
[INFO] |  |  +-
org.hibernate.javax.persistence:hibernate-jpa-2.1-api:jar:1.0.0.Final:compile
[INFO] |  |  +- antlr:antlr:jar:2.7.7:compile
[INFO] |  |  +- org.jboss:jandex:jar:2.0.3.Final:compile
[INFO] |  |  +- dom4j:dom4j:jar:1.6.1:compile
[INFO] |  |  \-
org.hibernate.common:hibernate-commons-annotations:jar:5.0.1.Final:compile
[INFO] |  +- javax.transaction:javax.transaction-api:jar:1.2:compile
[INFO] |  +- org.springframework.data:spring-data-jpa:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  |  +-
org.springframework.data:spring-data-commons:jar:2.0.7.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  |  +- org.springframework:spring-orm:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  |  \- org.springframework:spring-tx:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile
[INFO] |  \- org.springframework:spring-aspects:jar:5.0.6.RELEASE:compile

Actually the hiberate-core dependency is never used when implementing
the feature,
I think it can be excluded quietly. This is the safest way to solve this issue.
To dig further, the only dependency that required to be added is just
spring-data-commons,
which is Apache 2.0 Licensed[2]. (I just confirm the code can compile
and start correctly with spring-data-commons,
it might need to check more at runtime to ensure everything is working)

We need to be very careful when new dependency is added,  and ensure
all the license (including transitive dependencies) are compatible
with Apache.

The community has identified several similar issues [3][4] for
incubator-dubbo project, and similar actions should be done to
incubator-dubbo-admin as well.

To identify the issue automatically, I run the following command:

mvn license:add-third-party -Dlicense.useMissingFile

and grep the output:

cat dubbo-admin-server/target/generated-sources/license/THIRD-PARTY.txt|
grep "General Public License"
 (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public
License) Logback Classic Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:1.2.3
- http://logback.qos.ch/logback-classic)
 (Eclipse Public License - v 1.0) (GNU Lesser General Public
License) Logback Core Module (ch.qos.logback:logback-core:1.2.3 -
http://logback.qos.ch/logback-core)
 (GNU Lesser General Public License) Core Hibernate O/RM
functionality (org.hibernate:hibernate-core:5.2.17.Final -
http://hibernate.org)
 (GNU Lesser General Public License) Hibernate Commons Annotations
(org.hibernate.common:hibernate-commons-annotations:5.0.1.Final -
http://hibernate.org)

The last 2 are both introduced by hibernate-core. A script to check
license issue for dependencies was on the way[5].

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/pull/324
[2] 
https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-data-commons/blob/master/src/main/resources/license.txt
[3] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2231c58509842fe4069f2091f00ea7fd5c4e6ae4bf8ce1a97b16e9c5@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
[4] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e3112c832415850779af2fe04aa7325d8d776144f3939cc63f5eab08@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
[5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/issues/3840

>
> [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Incubator Community,
> >
> > The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
> > Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> >
> > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > incubator release.
> >
> > Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> > RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > interface based remote 

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Craig Russell]

At the risk of repeating myself, have you looked at OpenJPA? 
http://openjpa.apache.org is our own dog food.

Craig

> On Apr 19, 2019, at 6:18 AM, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> EclipseLink[1] is a JPA implementation which we can use in Apache Product.
> You can fix the issue by replace Hibernate dependencies with EclipseLink.
> 
> You can take ServiceComb-Pack[2] as an example, we used to have the
> dependency of Hibernate by using the spring-boot-jpa by default, but
> we changed it when we move the project into Apache.
> 
> [1]https://www.eclipse.org/eclipselink/
> [2]https://github.com/apache/servicecomb-pack/blob/master/persistence/persistence-jpa/pom.xml#L62
> 
> Willem Jiang
> 
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> 
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Willem Jiang:
>>there's no EcpliseLink for the hibernate library we include in the
>> binary release:  https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/tree/5.2.7
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi，
>>> 
>>> I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
>>> dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
>>> X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
>>> I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
>>> fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
>>> 
>>> [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
>>> 
>>> Willem Jiang
>>> 
>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
>>> wrote:
 
 Hello Incubator Community,
 
 The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
>>> release
 Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
 
 We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
 incubator release.
 
 Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
 RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
 interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
 automatic service registration & discovery.
 
 
 Dubbo community vote and result thread:
 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
 
 The release candidates (RC3):
 *
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
 <
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
 /*
 
 
 Git tag for the release (RC3):
 https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
 
 Hash for the release tag:
 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
 
 Release Notes:
 https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
 
 
 The artifacts have been signed with Key :
 DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
 found in the keys file:
 *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
 *
 
 The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
 votes are reached.
 
 Please vote accordingly:
 
 [ ] +1 approve
 [ ] +0 no opinion
 [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
 
 Thanks,
 The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
>>> 
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

EclipseLink[1] is a JPA implementation which we can use in Apache Product.
You can fix the issue by replace Hibernate dependencies with EclipseLink.

You can take ServiceComb-Pack[2] as an example, we used to have the
dependency of Hibernate by using the spring-boot-jpa by default, but
we changed it when we move the project into Apache.

[1]https://www.eclipse.org/eclipselink/
[2]https://github.com/apache/servicecomb-pack/blob/master/persistence/persistence-jpa/pom.xml#L62

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
>
> Hi Willem Jiang:
> there's no EcpliseLink for the hibernate library we include in the
> binary release:  https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/tree/5.2.7
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> > Hi，
> >
> > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> >
> > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Incubator Community,
> > >
> > > The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > release
> > > Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> > >
> > > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > > incubator release.
> > >
> > > Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> > > RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > > interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > > automatic service registration & discovery.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > The release candidates (RC3):
> > > *
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > > <
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> > >/*
> > >
> > >
> > > Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >
> > > Hash for the release tag:
> > > 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> > >
> > > Release Notes:
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >
> > >
> > > The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > > DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > > found in the keys file:
> > > *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > > *
> > >
> > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> > > votes are reached.
> > >
> > > Please vote accordingly:
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 approve
> > > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> >
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> >
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Sheng Wu]

Hi

If the LGPL lib is delivering inside final binary tar, I agree this causes
a license issue, which should be fixed.

Sheng

Willem Jiang 于2019年4月19日 周五下午9:11写道：

> If you extract the dubbo-admin-0.2.0.jar from the
> apache-dubbo-admin-incubating-0.2.0-bin.zip, you can find the
> hibernate-core-5.2.17.Final.jar in the BOOT-INF/lib directory.
> I found this issue by going through the License file of the bin.zip
> file, it lists the LGPL library of Hibernate.
> Event you just have the dependency of spring-boot-jpa, you still need
> to check final dependencies of spring-boot application.
>
> [1]
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/apache-dubbo-admin-incubating-0.2.0-bin.zip
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 1:36 PM Minxuan Zhuang 
> wrote:
> >
> > hi Craig:
> >we do not depend hibernate directly, they are imported by spring boot
> web
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM Craig Russell 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if it helps, but there are Apache Projects for both
> > > relational database (Derby) and ORM (OpenJPA) that can be included in
> > > binary releases.
> > >
> > > So we should never need to bundle LGPL or Category X projects with
> binary
> > > releases.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > > On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Willem Jiang 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi，
> > > >
> > > > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > > > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > > > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > > > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > > > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> > > >
> > > > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> > > > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello Incubator Community,
> > > >>
> > > >> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > > release
> > > >> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> > > >>
> > > >> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on
> this
> > > >> incubator release.
> > > >>
> > > >> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open
> > > source
> > > >> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > > >> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > > >> automatic service registration & discovery.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> > > >>
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> > > >>
> > > >> The release candidates (RC3):
> > > >> *
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > > >> <
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> > > >/*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > > >>
> > > >> Hash for the release tag:
> > > >> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> > > >>
> > > >> Release Notes:
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > > >> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > > >> found in the keys file:
> > > >> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > > >> *
> > > >>
> > > >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary
> number of
> > > >> votes are reached.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please vote accordingly:
> > > >>
> > > >> [ ] +1 approve
> > > >> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > >> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > >
> > > Craig L Russell
> > > c...@apache.org
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Willem Jiang]

If you extract the dubbo-admin-0.2.0.jar from the
apache-dubbo-admin-incubating-0.2.0-bin.zip, you can find the
hibernate-core-5.2.17.Final.jar in the BOOT-INF/lib directory.
I found this issue by going through the License file of the bin.zip
file, it lists the LGPL library of Hibernate.
Event you just have the dependency of spring-boot-jpa, you still need
to check final dependencies of spring-boot application.

[1]https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/apache-dubbo-admin-incubating-0.2.0-bin.zip

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 1:36 PM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
>
> hi Craig:
>we do not depend hibernate directly, they are imported by spring boot web
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> > I don't know if it helps, but there are Apache Projects for both
> > relational database (Derby) and ORM (OpenJPA) that can be included in
> > binary releases.
> >
> > So we should never need to bundle LGPL or Category X projects with binary
> > releases.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > > On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi，
> > >
> > > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> > >
> > > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> > > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello Incubator Community,
> > >>
> > >> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > release
> > >> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> > >>
> > >> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > >> incubator release.
> > >>
> > >> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open
> > source
> > >> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > >> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > >> automatic service registration & discovery.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> > >>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> > >>
> > >> The release candidates (RC3):
> > >> *
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > >> <
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> > >/*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >>
> > >> Hash for the release tag:
> > >> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> > >>
> > >> Release Notes:
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > >> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > >> found in the keys file:
> > >> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > >> *
> > >>
> > >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> > >> votes are reached.
> > >>
> > >> Please vote accordingly:
> > >>
> > >> [ ] +1 approve
> > >> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> >
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> > c...@apache.org
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Sheng Wu]

Hi,

Do you deliver it in your binary tar? And do you need it at runtime?

Sheng

Minxuan Zhuang 于2019年4月19日 周五下午1:36写道：

> hi Craig:
>we do not depend hibernate directly, they are imported by spring boot
> web
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM Craig Russell 
> wrote:
>
> > I don't know if it helps, but there are Apache Projects for both
> > relational database (Derby) and ORM (OpenJPA) that can be included in
> > binary releases.
> >
> > So we should never need to bundle LGPL or Category X projects with binary
> > releases.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > > On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi，
> > >
> > > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> > >
> > > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> > > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello Incubator Community,
> > >>
> > >> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > release
> > >> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> > >>
> > >> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on
> this
> > >> incubator release.
> > >>
> > >> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open
> > source
> > >> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > >> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > >> automatic service registration & discovery.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> > >>
> > >> The release candidates (RC3):
> > >> *
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > >> <
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> > >/*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >>
> > >> Hash for the release tag:
> > >> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> > >>
> > >> Release Notes:
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > >> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > >> found in the keys file:
> > >> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > >> *
> > >>
> > >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number
> of
> > >> votes are reached.
> > >>
> > >> Please vote accordingly:
> > >>
> > >> [ ] +1 approve
> > >> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> >
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> > c...@apache.org
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Minxuan Zhuang]

hi Craig:
   we do not depend hibernate directly, they are imported by spring boot web

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM Craig Russell  wrote:

> I don't know if it helps, but there are Apache Projects for both
> relational database (Derby) and ORM (OpenJPA) that can be included in
> binary releases.
>
> So we should never need to bundle LGPL or Category X projects with binary
> releases.
>
> Craig
>
> > On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Willem Jiang 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi，
> >
> > I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> > dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> > X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> > I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> > fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> >
> > [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Incubator Community,
> >>
> >> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> release
> >> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> >>
> >> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> >> incubator release.
> >>
> >> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open
> source
> >> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> >> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> >> automatic service registration & discovery.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >> The release candidates (RC3):
> >> *
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> >> <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> >/*
> >>
> >>
> >> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >>
> >> Hash for the release tag:
> >> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> >>
> >> Release Notes:
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >>
> >>
> >> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> >> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> >> found in the keys file:
> >> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> >> *
> >>
> >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> >> votes are reached.
> >>
> >> Please vote accordingly:
> >>
> >> [ ] +1 approve
> >> [ ] +0 no opinion
> >> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> >
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Craig Russell]

I don't know if it helps, but there are Apache Projects for both relational 
database (Derby) and ORM (OpenJPA) that can be included in binary releases.

So we should never need to bundle LGPL or Category X projects with binary 
releases.

Craig

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> 
> Hi，
> 
> I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
> 
> [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
> 
> Willem Jiang
> 
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> 
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Incubator Community,
>> 
>> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
>> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
>> 
>> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
>> incubator release.
>> 
>> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
>> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
>> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
>> automatic service registration & discovery.
>> 
>> 
>> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>> 
>> The release candidates (RC3):
>> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
>> /*
>> 
>> 
>> Git tag for the release (RC3):
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
>> 
>> Hash for the release tag:
>> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
>> 
>> Release Notes:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
>> 
>> 
>> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
>> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
>> found in the keys file:
>> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
>> *
>> 
>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
>> votes are reached.
>> 
>> Please vote accordingly:
>> 
>> [ ] +1 approve
>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Minxuan Zhuang]

Hi Willem Jiang:
there's no EcpliseLink for the hibernate library we include in the
binary release:  https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/tree/5.2.7

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:24 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:

> Hi，
>
> I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
> dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
> X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
> I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
> fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].
>
> [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Incubator Community,
> >
> > The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> release
> > Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> >
> > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > incubator release.
> >
> > Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> > RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > automatic service registration & discovery.
> >
> >
> > Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> >
> > The release candidates (RC3):
> > *
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> >/*
> >
> >
> > Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >
> > Hash for the release tag:
> > 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> >
> > Release Notes:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >
> >
> > The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > found in the keys file:
> > *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > *
> >
> > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> > votes are reached.
> >
> > Please vote accordingly:
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> >
> > Thanks,
> > The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
>
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Willem Jiang]

Hi，

I just checked the binary release kit, it has the third party
dependency of LGPL (Hibernate core) which is belonged to Cataloge
X[1],  it cannot be included in Apache Product.
I had to vote -1 for it. We can change the ORM lib to Eclipse Link to
fix this issue, I just fill an issue here[2].

[1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
[2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/issues/366

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:24 AM Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
>
> Hello Incubator Community,
>
> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
>
> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> incubator release.
>
> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> automatic service registration & discovery.
>
>
> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>
> The release candidates (RC3):
> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> /*
>
>
> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
>
> Hash for the release tag:
> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
>
> Release Notes:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
>
>
> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> found in the keys file:
> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> *
>
> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> votes are reached.
>
> Please vote accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
>
> Thanks,
> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team

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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Minxuan Zhuang]

Hi all
  72 hours passed, we still need one more +1 binding vote here, please
continue voting, thanks

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:58 AM Gosling Von  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1, binding
>
> I checked:
> - incubating in name
> - signatures and hashed format(SHA512) fine
> - DISCLAIMER exists
> - LICENSE and NOTICE good
> - No unexpected binary files
> - All source files have ASF headers
> - can compile from source
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Minxuan Zhuang 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Incubator Community,
> >
> > The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> release
> > Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> >
> > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > incubator release.
> >
> > Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> > RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> > interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> > automatic service registration & discovery.
> >
> >
> > Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> >
> > The release candidates (RC3):
> > *
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> > <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0/
> >/*
> >
> >
> > Git tag for the release (RC3):
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >
> > Hash for the release tag:
> > 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> >
> > Release Notes:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> >
> >
> > The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> > DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> > found in the keys file:
> > *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> > *
> >
> > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> > votes are reached.
> >
> > Please vote accordingly:
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> >
> > Thanks,
> > The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
>
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Gosling Von]

Hi,

+1, binding

I checked:
- incubating in name
- signatures and hashed format(SHA512) fine
- DISCLAIMER exists
- LICENSE and NOTICE good
- No unexpected binary files
- All source files have ASF headers
- can compile from source

Best Regards,
Von Gosling


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Minxuan Zhuang  wrote:
> 
> Hello Incubator Community,
> 
> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
> Apache Dubbo Admin (Incubating) version 0.2.0.
> 
> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> incubator release.
> 
> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> automatic service registration & discovery.
> 
> 
> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc71a5f8c93b8c3606338b97a08c044af64ca3165e226aed37295a45@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> 
> The release candidates (RC3):
> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/dubbo-admin/0.2.0
> /*
> 
> 
> Git tag for the release (RC3):
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> 
> Hash for the release tag:
> 37e23a7354e3da50914e075eb4676c7c2875ffa7
> 
> Release Notes:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin/releases/tag/0.2.0
> 
> 
> The artifacts have been signed with Key :
> DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> found in the keys file:
> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> *
> 
> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> votes are reached.
> 
> Please vote accordingly:
> 
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> 
> Thanks,
> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team


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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

+1 (binding)

I checked:
- incubating in name
- signatures and hashed fine
- DISCLAIMER exists
- LICENSE and NOTICE good
- No unexpected binary files
- All source files have ASF headers
- can compile from source

Thanks,
Justin

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