Problem with Jakarta-Tomcat 3.2.4
I try to install Jakarta-Tomcat but I find a error into bin\tomcat.bat file at line 98: parser.jar must to replace with crimson.jar Regards IvoIvano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Jakarta-Tomcat 3.2.4
Hi, wrong list, try the tomcat mail lists instead: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html Gerhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
calendar splitting (was Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??)
Jeff Prickett wrote: Scott Sanders wrote: Calendar is much more apropos in JAMES IMHO. I think that JAMES could become an Exchange killer :) Good point, I would accept that place as a home for the back end objects. Possibly split iCalendar between JAMES and Jetspeed or make it its own module that plugs in to either. Front end - Jetspeed, Back end JAMES. I would like to see Apache create an Exchange killer, but that talk is premature :). Maybe too late to jump in here, but I see it today :( I think the best thing to do would be to have a standalone calendar backend, communicating with James as transport, and with Jetspeed (and also beans for Velocity and even JSP), for server side front end. An applet could do a client side processor if this is wanted/needed. Jetspeed can do with a calendaring portlet (which is not written, BTW), that could take calendar objects using whichever transport It makes more sense to home the calendar project in James, IMO, than in Jetspeed, specially now that standard wars will begin ;) But I think Jetspeed people will not opose to have you there either. I will present myself also. I'm Santiago Gala, working in Jetspeed. I decided that I was too misinformed about apache stuff and I have decided to subscribe (not read in archives) to force myself to read general apache related lists. Being the typical bottom-up person, I start with jakarta-general. :) Hi to all, Santiago -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Avalon team is proud to announce Avalon Excalibur 4.1
Avalon Excalibur 4.1 Released - The Avalon team is proud to announce the 4.1 final release of the Avalon Excalibur. About Avalon The Avalon project is Apache's Java Server Framework. It is separated into five sub projects: Framework, Excalibur, LogKit, Cornerstone, and Phoenix. Its purpose is to simplify server side programming for Java based projects. It formalizes serveral best of breed practices and patterns for server side programming. For more information about Avalon, please go to http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon About Avalon Excalibur 4.1 -- Avalon Excalibur contains several premade Avalon Components and utilities to make your server side programming easier. There are several pool implementations, Component management implementations, and database management implementations. For more information about Avalon Excalibur 4.1, please go to http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/excalibur ChangeLog for Avalon Excalibur 4.1 *) Initial port of Cocoon's Source resolvers and XML parsers [CZ] *) Added many fixes to the XML Resource Bundles and Resource Bundle access code. [NP] *) Update the extension management code and make it more robust. [PD] *) Add new Container abstraction to separate ComponentManager from Container code (i.e. ExcaliburComponentManager violates this). The new ContainerManager and Container abstraction make the system much easier to manage. [BL] *) Add new CommandManager architecture to manage all asynchronous commands and the ThreadManager architecture to manage the thread allocation policy for the CommandManager. [BL] *) New component to handle automatic XML Catalog resolution. [DP] *) Many improvements to the cache component. Extended cache validation support, multiple store backends, and more. [EP] *) Add an XPathProcessor abstraction Component with ThreadSafe implementations for Jaxen and Xalan backed XPath processors. [JT] *) Made automatic proxy code even more robust. [PD] *) Add support for recursive property resolution. Added appropriate unit test to accompany feature. [PD] *) Optimized pool implementations, and provided a new abstraction for managed pools (in scratchpad). [BL] *) Add many new LogTargetFactories to LogKitManager. [GP] *) Add new LoggerManager abstraction that works with the new framework Logger abstractions. [BL] *) Fixed some classloader issues in the i18n package for loading resources. Also fixed some i18n related issues in FileUtil and IOUtil. [PD] *) Applied many optimizations and logic fixes to DataSourceComponent code. [LM] *) Applied fixes to ReadWriteLock from Avi Drissman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [BL] *) Officially deprecate Lock in favor of Mutex. They have the same purpose, and Mutex is more correct. [BL] *) Optimize logging calls throughout components. Also, make the log messages more informative. [BL] *) ListUtils now checks for duplicates when merging Lists. [PD] *) Make BinaryHeap and PriorityQueue use Objects instead of Comparables. Optimize BinaryHeap code. [PD] *) Add new Buffer classes to the collections package. These are amazingly performant. It is based on CircularBuffer, which is now deprecated. [BL] *) Shake out some more performance of CLI Util, as well as better support for DUPLICATES_ALLOWED. [BL] *) Added some build improvements. [LM] *) Add new profiler instrumentation interfaces inspired by Matt Welsh's SEDA architecture. [BL] *) Add new asynchronous event queue system inspired by Matt Welsh's SEDA architecture. [BL] *) Update all the components to the new LogEnabled interface. [BL] Downloads for Avalon Excalibur 4.1 available at http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-avalon/release/excalibur/latest -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: calendar splitting (was Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??)
I think the best thing to do would be to have a standalone calendar backend, communicating with James as transport, As a James commiter I can see this as being a sensible route, James exposes the Mailet API which would provide hooks into the mail system for icalendar, or indeed any other mail oriented application. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status page. -Ted. Original Message Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta WebSite CVS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon 02/01/30 13:53:04 Modified:docs index.html xdocsindex.xml Log: lets have a little fun. Revision ChangesPath 1.52 +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html Index: index.html === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.51 retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52 --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 - 1.51 +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.52 @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@ table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% trtd bgcolor=#525D76 font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif + a name=That flaming fireball in the sky...strongThat flaming fireball in the sky.../strong/a +/font + /td/tr + trtd +blockquote +p +In a recent a href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview;article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p +/blockquote +/p + /td/tr + trtdbr//td/tr +/table +table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% + trtd bgcolor=#525D76 +font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif a name=WelcomestrongWelcome/strong/a /font /td/tr 1.21 +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.20 retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21 --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 - 1.20 +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.21 @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@ body +section name=That flaming fireball in the sky... +p +In a recent a +href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview; +article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p + +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p + +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a +href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p + +/section + section name=Welcome !-- ApacheCon is over. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Announcement: JakartaPMC elections for 2002
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Folks, It is time for the yearly election of the Jakarta PMC by the committers of Jakarta. For a background - please take some time to read: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html The Project Management Committee (PMC) was formed by the Apache Board in September 1999. The number of PMC seats is set at seven. Annually, all seven seats will be up for renewal. The ASF board will be asked to provide a person or persons to administer the nominations and a subsequent ballot. The administrator(s) will determine the mechanics of the voting procedures. Any committer to any Jakarta code base will be eligible to vote. Once the new PMC is in place, the first order of business will be to determine a chairperson from amongst their ranks. The list of current members can be found in our Project Credits. Scedule: 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-7Nominations close 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-9Publication of candidate list. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-9Publication of voter's list. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-12 Candidate list final and announced. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-12 Voter's list final and announced. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-12 Voters receive their ballots. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-12 Ballot opens 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-19 Ballot closes 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-21 Voters receive confirmation of their vote 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-22 Final tally made and published. 0:00 GMT - 2002-2-22 Archive handed over to the ASF board secretariat. Logistics for those elections (v1.02): Volunteers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dirk-Willem van Gulik (0xEC140B81) Jim Jagielski (0xA0BB71C1) Ben Laurie (0x2719AF35) Seat: A mail folder on daedalus.apache.org is used as the mail relay and time reference for all communication. T=0 The Announcement of the election is posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and an individual message to all people with commit access to jakarta-* projects. T+7 Nominations for PMC needs to be in by 0:00 GMT 7th of February 2001. You can either nominate yourself - or nominate someone else. What counts is the confirmation from the nominee being received. - Posting a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your candidature, a short description about who you are, what you want to accomplish. - Or if you are volunteered by someone else - a similar message confirming that you are accepting the nomination - with again - some details about yourself. - PMC seats are open to anyone. Regardless as to wether you are a committer, lurker or coder. And you can even nominate a complete outsider (assuming he or she would consent of course.) T+9 On the 9th of February we will send out a list of candidates to general@. You then have exactly 48hrs to complain about omissions, mistakes, etc. T+9 On the 9th of February we will email out a list of all the committers eligible to vote to general@, *-dev, members@ and all commiters individually. Check that you are on that list. Otherwise you will not get to have your vote counted. Your @apache.org address will be used. T+12Final list of committers eligible to vote compiled and published to general@. T+12Final list of candidates compiled and published to general@. T+12On the 12th of February we will send each committer and general@ a ballot form. The ballot will contain the names of each candidate and the short description they have provided. Please return this to us on the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] before the 19th of February. Voting Rules: - You have seven votes. - A ballot with no votes is invalid. - A ballot with more than seven votes in invalid. - You can only cast one vote per candidate. - If you do not use all seven votes - the remainder of the votes will be counted as abstained. - Returned ballots which are unreadable are invalid. Reminder: your vote does not have to be cast in public and for the truly paranoid - pgp keys for the voting volunteers mentioned above. Regardless of encryption: your vote will go on record in the clear with the ASF and ASF records are subject to the usual provisions for US corporations and board control.
RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
Why is that? -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status page. -Ted. Original Message Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta WebSite CVS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon 02/01/30 13:53:04 Modified:docs index.html xdocsindex.xml Log: lets have a little fun. Revision ChangesPath 1.52 +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html Index: index.html === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.51 retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52 --- index.html 29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 - 1.51 +++ index.html 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.52 @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@ table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% trtd bgcolor=#525D76 font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif + a name=That flaming fireball in the sky...strongThat flaming fireball in the sky.../strong/a +/font + /td/tr + trtd +blockquote +p +In a recent a href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun Interviewarticle/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p +/blockquote +/p + /td/tr + trtdbr//td/tr +/table +table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% + trtd bgcolor=#525D76 +font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif a name=WelcomestrongWelcome/strong/a /font /td/tr 1.21 +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.20 retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21 --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 - 1.20 +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.21 @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@ body +section name=That flaming fireball in the sky... +p +In a recent a +href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su nInterview + +article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p + +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p + +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a +href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p + +/section + section name=Welcome !-- ApacheCon is over. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To
RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon! =;o) Paulo -Original Message- From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] Why is that? -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status page. -Ted. Original Message Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta WebSite CVS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon 02/01/30 13:53:04 Modified:docs index.html xdocsindex.xml Log: lets have a little fun. Revision ChangesPath 1.52 +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html Index: index.html === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.51 retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52 --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 - 1.51 +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.52 @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@ table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% trtd bgcolor=#525D76 font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif + a name=That flaming fireball in the sky...strongThat flaming fireball in the sky.../strong/a +/font + /td/tr + trtd +blockquote +p +In a recent a href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun Interviewarticle/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p +/blockquote +/p + /td/tr + trtdbr//td/tr +/table +table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% + trtd bgcolor=#525D76 +font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif a name=WelcomestrongWelcome/strong/a /font /td/tr 1.21 +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.20 retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21 --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 - 1.20 +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.21 @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@ body +section name=That flaming fireball in the sky... +p +In a recent a +href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su nInterview + +article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p + +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p + +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your
RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about what we want. Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect. It just
seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
-Andy
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 17:53, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon!
=;o)
Paulo
-Original Message-
From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
Why is that?
-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial
matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it
to the news and status page.
-Ted.
Original Message
Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Jakarta WebSite CVS List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
Modified:docs index.html
xdocsindex.xml
Log:
lets have a little fun.
Revision ChangesPath
1.52 +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
Index: index.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
retrieving revision 1.51
retrieving revision 1.52
diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
--- index.html 29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 - 1.51
+++ index.html 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.52
@@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100%
trtd bgcolor=#525D76
font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif
+ a name=That flaming fireball in the
sky...strongThat
flaming fireball in the sky.../strong/a
+/font
+ /td/tr
+ trtd
+blockquote
+p
+In a recent a
href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun
Interviewarticle/a,
Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
+Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
+/p
+p
+The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant
momentum over the
+past two years, and we want to make sure that any open
source efforts
+don't impact the viability of that effort.
+/p
+p
+In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE
licensing
+restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed
it, it does).
+Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the
Java Community
+Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun
to claim that
+they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
+interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
+licensing terms, feel free to contact a
href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us
know what you
+think. Thanks.
+/p
+/blockquote
+/p
+ /td/tr
+ trtdbr//td/tr
+/table
+table border=0
cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100%
+ trtd bgcolor=#525D76
+font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif
a name=WelcomestrongWelcome/strong/a
/font
/td/tr
1.21 +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
Index: index.xml
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RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.20
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
--- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 - 1.20
+++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.21
@@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
body
+section name=That flaming fireball in the sky...
+p
+In a recent a
+href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
nInterview
+
+article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility
and Platform
+Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
+/p
+
+p
+The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant
momentum over the
+past two years, and we want to make sure that any open
source efforts
+don't impact the viability of that effort.
RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
I still say we need to say This is what we want not just This is f*cked up. I think we should follow similar rules as to writing a letter of complaint (even if it has a certain Jon/Apache-like flare) -Andy On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 18:01, Scott Sanders wrote: +1. + 1! Why should Apache be silent if the process in NOT open? Publicity is what this needs. C# is more open than the JCP, and that is really, really sad. If we can't express these opinions, who will? I am personally glad that jon is the outspoken person that he is. If he wasn't, would have the balls to publish that??? I cannot guess anyone right off. Scott Sanders -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:59 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] The Java Community Process (JCP) is not a community process at all. It's a way for Sun Inc. to claim they are open. You know it. I know it. Sun knows it. Let's stop deluding ourselves shall we? I say we move that flaming fireball to the home page of *Apache*. -- Ceki At 17:10 30.01.2002 -0500, Ted Husted wrote: I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status page. -Ted. Original Message Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta WebSite CVS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon 02/01/30 13:53:04 Modified:docs index.html xdocsindex.xml Log: lets have a little fun. Revision ChangesPath 1.52 +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html Index: index.html === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.51 retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52 --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 - 1.51 +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.52 @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@ table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% trtd bgcolor=#525D76 font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif + a name=That flaming fireball in the sky...strongThat flaming fireball in the sky.../strong/a +/font + /td/tr + trtd +blockquote +p +In a recent a href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su nInterview article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: +/p +p +The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts +don't impact the viability of that effort. +/p +p +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's +licensing terms, feel free to contact a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a and let us know what you +think. Thanks. +/p +/blockquote +/p + /td/tr + trtdbr//td/tr +/table +table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% + trtd bgcolor=#525D76 +font color=#ff face=arial,helvetica,sanserif a name=WelcomestrongWelcome/strong/a /font /td/tr 1.21 +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.20 retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21 --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 - 1.20 +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 - 1.21 @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@ body +section name=That flaming fireball in the sky... +p +In a recent a +href=http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=S unIntervie +w +article/a, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
Re: PMC Nomination
on 2002.1.30 4:31 PM, Bojan Smojver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. Geir is current PMC member. His dedication to Jakarta projects, especially Velocity, is undoubted. His support levels on Velocity project are unsurpassed, with response times in minutes. He is always open to suggestions by other developers (and non-developers) and is willing to sacrifice a lot of his own time to improve the projects he is working on. His recent contribution of DVSL to Velocity only confirms the above. Bojan I second that nomination! -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it doesn't give me a clear idea about what we want. Can you give me a good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect. It just seems like we should be asking for something and being specific. -Andy That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows exactly what we want. There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes around here that unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, discussions about opening some of that up (including posting what we want to the public site) are going on now. This is fun. p.s. The spec lead for JSR107 had a nice response to my complaints about the license issues for that JSR. It went something like this: As for the license, I can find no mention of Oracle requesting any money for anything. I seriously doubt if this license is significantly different than licenses for JSP's sponsored by other companies. Uh. Yea. Whatever dude. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PMC Nomination
Hi, I would like to nominate Diane Holt for the PMC. Diane is a current PMC member and a committer on the Ant subproject. I think Diane brings a somewhat different perspective from the typical hardcore developer types here at Jakarta. I think that balance would be a good thing for the PMC. Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PMC Nomination
Bojan Smojver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. Geir is current PMC member. His dedication to Jakarta projects, especially Velocity, is undoubted. His support levels on Velocity project are unsurpassed, with response times in minutes. He is always open to suggestions by other developers (and non-developers) and is willing to sacrifice a lot of his own time to improve the projects he is working on. His recent contribution of DVSL to Velocity only confirms the above. +1, Geir does outstanding work and conducts himself in a manner which reflects well on all ASF commiters. Dan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PATCH] /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml,v
Regarding subcategorizing the leftnav: Okay, I'm showing ya'll this cause I said I'd do it but I don't want to apply it cause I think it looks really crappy. I don't yet know enough about velocity to try creating a submenu type entity with a smaller font but I'm not so sure this could look good any way you slice it. Anyhow whoever said it, it was a good idea, but it looks ugly. Here is the patch for the interested: Index: project.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 project.xml --- project.xml 8 Jan 2002 05:02:20 - 1.22 +++ project.xml 31 Jan 2002 03:38:44 - @@ -37,28 +37,36 @@ item name=Bug Database href=/site/bugs.html/ /menu -menu name=SubProjects -item name=Alexandriahref=/alexandria/index.html/ +menu name=SubProjects/ + +menu name=Libraries item name=Ant href=/ant/index.html/ -item name=Avalonhref=/avalon/index.html/ item name=BCEL href=/bcel/index.html/ -item name=Cactushref=/cactus/index.html/ item name=Commons href=/commons/index.html/ item name=ECS href=/ecs/index.html/ -item name=James href=/james/index.html/ -item name=Jetspeed href=/jetspeed/index.html/ item name=JMeterhref=/jmeter/index.html/ item name=Log4J href=/log4j/index.html/ -item name=Lucenehref=/lucene/index.html/ item name=ORO href=/oro/index.html/ item name=Regexphref=/regexp/index.html/ -item name=Slide href=/slide/index.html/ -item name=Strutshref=/struts/index.html/ item name=Taglibs href=/taglibs/index.html/ -item name=Tomcathref=/tomcat/index.html/ +item name=Watchdog href=/watchdog/index.html/ +/menu + +menu name=Frameworks/Engines +item name=Avalonhref=/avalon/index.html/ +item name=Cactushref=/cactus/index.html/ +item name=Lucenehref=/lucene/index.html/ +item name=Strutshref=/struts/index.html/ item name=Turbine href=/turbine/index.html/ item name=Velocity href=/velocity/index.html/ -item name=Watchdog href=/watchdog/index.html/ +/menu + +menu name=Server Apps +item name=Alexandriahref=/alexandria/index.html/ +item name=James href=/james/index.html/ +item name=Jetspeed href=/jetspeed/index.html/ +item name=Slide href=/slide/index.html/ +item name=Tomcathref=/tomcat/index.html/ /menu menu name=Misc -- www.superlinksoftware.com www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:58, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: For starters: I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the rest of the JDK. I think it is - or at least it used to be? The J2EE trademark is protected as much as the Java trademark is - in some ways less in some ways more. Ask Sun whether you can have an opensource java impl and they will say no because we haven't revealed it all. The differenceis that J2EE also has significantly more IP tied up in it that would possibly make it a difficult proposition to cleanly rewrite - though this is the same with some parts of core java classes (ie RMI and friends). In truth J2EE is kind of a scam. It claims to be aiming for compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors play too big of a role in it. They want to have lots of room for proprietary extensions. Its market one thing but actually sell another. Isn't that the best way to advance technology? Leave room for vendors to play and when the vendors have played with a feature long enough, merge the best ideas together and develope a spec. It was a lot worse in past but with auxilliary APIs/JSRs like deployment and management APIs coming out. -- Cheers, Pete --- I would like to take you seriously but to do so would affront your intelligence -William F. Buckley, JR --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
