Re: Eyebrowse problem?
The 'access' clause is bullshit as well...all you have to do is ask and show that you are willing to help out... Great! Howard, go to "infrastructure" and ask for bugzilla admin access as well as access to nagoya. Ask for mail admin access while your at it (because I think you have to have it to fix the eyebrowse issue, though I didn't understand it the last 3-4 times i've read messages on the issue). -Andy -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
on 2003/3/24 10:11 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all due respect Jon, he doesn't have sufficient access to > volunteer. You need a new phrase > "thanks for volunteering for the campaign" ;-) > > Not as catchy, I admit. > > -Andy The 'access' clause is bullshit as well...all you have to do is ask and show that you are willing to help out... -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Eyebrowse problem?
Jon, you wrote: > Luckily, eyebrowse is also open source. =) > > Thanks for volunteering! I guess you are being, at least in part, facetious. If not I think that you've misunderstood my point. Eyebrowse is OK, it is only suffering from issues regarding its administration. It is the ability of infrastructure to effectively track, assign and resolve issues that was provoking debate. I doubt that volunteering another opinion would help solve that. d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
My response to postings like this is: Thanks for volunteering! =) -jon With all due respect Jon, he doesn't have sufficient access to volunteer. You need a new phrase "thanks for volunteering for the campaign" ;-) Not as catchy, I admit. -Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
on 2003/3/24 6:42 AM, "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI theres been a lot of talk recently about eybrowse, it has been not working > for several lists, not just Tapestry. Theres also been some discussion about > tracking infrastructure issues. Needless to say there are two points of view > as usual. :-\ > > d. Luckily, eyebrowse is also open source. =) Thanks for volunteering! -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
on 2003/3/23 4:24 PM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being archived. > I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is Tapestry not archived, > none of the lists seems to have been updated since late february. > > Once again, its all chaos at Jakarta. I don't understand why the folks with > the capabilities and responsibilities to handle infrastructure issues and > requests don't take five minutes to set up a BugZilla category for these > things. Instead, it is left to endless e-mails, no tracking, nothing gets > done ... My response to postings like this is: Thanks for volunteering! =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Eyebrowse problem?
FYI theres been a lot of talk recently about eybrowse, it has been not working for several lists, not just Tapestry. Theres also been some discussion about tracking infrastructure issues. Needless to say there are two points of view as usual. :-\ d. > Subject: RE: Eyebrowse problem? > I'll make that case at infrastructure. > > >Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being > > >archived. I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is > > >Tapestry not archived, none of the lists seems to have been updated > > >since late february. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Eyebrowse problem?
Point taken. I'll pursue this there. I don't expect things to happen at the snap of my fingers, I just want feedback that issues are being resolved. I'll make that case at infrastructure. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:47 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: Eyebrowse problem? > > > Hi Howard, > > Lets get a few things straight. This isn't a "Jakarta" > thing. Apache > expands beyond Jakarta. In fact this is > not the proper place for this request. The proper place is > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > > Please note that I would be happy to help with this, however I do not > have the necessary karma or probably even the > expertise. > > Please take note of the tone of your email. I understand your > frustration, this is a volunteer organization, and while the > volunteer > system > works well for software, it is not always great for infrastructure. > > Regardless, this is where we are. You're asking for someone > to do you a > "favor" and fix eyebrowse. Do you feel your tone does > it in a way that will motivate them to do so? > > Let us now address the bugzilla issue. I've noted my preference for > this as well, however, I do not currently have the bandwidth > necessary to drive the discussion towards that. You, > however, are empowered to do > so! Join the infrastructure list and start the discussion. > I would suggest that in order to be effective, you describe > the problem > (calmly), describe the solution, the best alternative and why > you feel > bugzilla would > be appropriate. Inevitably someone will argue against it or > just "for" > the status quo. Through persistance, offering to help manage > it, etc, your issue may be addressed. > > Complaining about jakarta on this mail list will probably just peeve > people off and serve you nothing, although you're certainly > welcome to > try it. > Is this the most judicious use of your (and others') time? > > A man once said "You decide". > > -Andy > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > > >Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being > >archived. I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is > >Tapestry not archived, none of the lists seems to have been updated > >since late february. > > > >Once again, its all chaos at Jakarta. I don't understand > why the folks > >with the capabilities and responsibilities to handle infrastructure > >issues and requests don't take five minutes to set up a BugZilla > >category for these things. Instead, it is left to endless > e-mails, no > >tracking, nothing gets done ... > > > >-- > >Howard M. Lewis Ship > >Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > >http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:25 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Cc: Magesh Umasankar > >>Subject: Re: Eyebrowse problem? > >> > >> > >>On 20/3/03 21:03 "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>All I get when trying to look up any archived > >>>message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. > >>> > >>>What is going on? > >>> > >>> > >>We're aware of it... Will be fixed hopefully soon... > >> > >>Pier > >> > >> > >> > - > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
Hi Howard, Lets get a few things straight. This isn't a "Jakarta" thing. Apache expands beyond Jakarta. In fact this is not the proper place for this request. The proper place is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Please note that I would be happy to help with this, however I do not have the necessary karma or probably even the expertise. Please take note of the tone of your email. I understand your frustration, this is a volunteer organization, and while the volunteer system works well for software, it is not always great for infrastructure. Regardless, this is where we are. You're asking for someone to do you a "favor" and fix eyebrowse. Do you feel your tone does it in a way that will motivate them to do so? Let us now address the bugzilla issue. I've noted my preference for this as well, however, I do not currently have the bandwidth necessary to drive the discussion towards that. You, however, are empowered to do so! Join the infrastructure list and start the discussion. I would suggest that in order to be effective, you describe the problem (calmly), describe the solution, the best alternative and why you feel bugzilla would be appropriate. Inevitably someone will argue against it or just "for" the status quo. Through persistance, offering to help manage it, etc, your issue may be addressed. Complaining about jakarta on this mail list will probably just peeve people off and serve you nothing, although you're certainly welcome to try it. Is this the most judicious use of your (and others') time? A man once said "You decide". -Andy Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being archived. I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is Tapestry not archived, none of the lists seems to have been updated since late february. Once again, its all chaos at Jakarta. I don't understand why the folks with the capabilities and responsibilities to handle infrastructure issues and requests don't take five minutes to set up a BugZilla category for these things. Instead, it is left to endless e-mails, no tracking, nothing gets done ... -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry -Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Magesh Umasankar Subject: Re: Eyebrowse problem? On 20/3/03 21:03 "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All I get when trying to look up any archived message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. What is going on? We're aware of it... Will be fixed hopefully soon... Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Eyebrowse problem?
Many of my users have complained that Tapestry is no longer being archived. I did a little poke around eyebrowse, and not only is Tapestry not archived, none of the lists seems to have been updated since late february. Once again, its all chaos at Jakarta. I don't understand why the folks with the capabilities and responsibilities to handle infrastructure issues and requests don't take five minutes to set up a BugZilla category for these things. Instead, it is left to endless e-mails, no tracking, nothing gets done ... -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry > -Original Message- > From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Magesh Umasankar > Subject: Re: Eyebrowse problem? > > > On 20/3/03 21:03 "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All I get when trying to look up any archived > > message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. > > > > What is going on? > > We're aware of it... Will be fixed hopefully soon... > > Pier > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse problem?
On 20/3/03 21:03 "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All I get when trying to look up any archived > message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. > > What is going on? We're aware of it... Will be fixed hopefully soon... Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eyebrowse problem?
All I get when trying to look up any archived message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. What is going on? Cheers, Magesh *** * Yawn: The only time some married men ever * * get to open their mouth. * *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
