Re: PMC chair nominations?
Morgan Delagrange wrote: Sam said that we should obtain nominations for chair from people in the (potentially expanded) PMC ranks by the 16th, followed by [a]n election where every member of the PMC has one vote...to be completed on the 18th. Whoops, we're late. Are we obligated to choose a chair this month. I don't think we have enought time left for a proper vote. The board places no such obligations upon the Jakarta PMC. My read is that if an election were held today, I would be running unopposed. Instead of going through the motions and having a one party election, I would much rather go month to month... in other words, if any PMC member wants to call for an election at any time, it's OK with me. Futhermore, should a suitable candidate emerge, they would have my vote and full support. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PMC chair nominations?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Morgan Delagrange wrote: Sam said that we should obtain nominations for chair from people in the (potentially expanded) PMC ranks by the 16th, followed by [a]n election where every member of the PMC has one vote...to be completed on the 18th. Whoops, we're late. Are we obligated to choose a chair this month. I don't think we have enought time left for a proper vote. The board places no such obligations upon the Jakarta PMC. My read is that if an election were held today, I would be running unopposed. Instead of going through the motions and having a one party election, I would much rather go month to month... in other words, if any PMC member wants to call for an election at any time, it's OK with me. Futhermore, should a suitable candidate emerge, they would have my vote and full support. Sounds like you want some peace and quiet Sam :) It might help if you were to indicate what the role of Chairman entails. In terms of time, resource etc. Being a member is, I assume, a given, but are there timezone considerations, company-backing considerations which help a lot. Do you find yourself listening to every mailing list, how much of your Apache time is eaten by Chairman-ness rather than project-work. Then maybe it'll indicate to people whether they have an interest, and how long they'd desire to serve etc. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PMC chair nominations?
Henri Yandell wrote: My read is that if an election were held today, I would be running unopposed. Instead of going through the motions and having a one party election, I would much rather go month to month... in other words, if any PMC member wants to call for an election at any time, it's OK with me. Futhermore, should a suitable candidate emerge, they would have my vote and full support. Sounds like you want some peace and quiet Sam :) It might help if you were to indicate what the role of Chairman entails. In terms of time, resource etc. Being a member is, I assume, a given, but are there timezone considerations, company-backing considerations which help a lot. Officially, I have been told that all that it entails is an email once a quarter with the status to the board. This is a lie. Being a PMC member is a prereq. Being an ASF member is not. Nor are there any timezone or company backing considerations. Workload is entirely unpredictable. The biggest time consumer is resolving interpersonal disputes. Being a parent helps - most disputes are of the her leg is on my half of the car seat type. Or, more commonly, he's copying me. Do you find yourself listening to every mailing list, how much of your Apache time is eaten by Chairman-ness rather than project-work. I skim. I may go for a week or more without reading some lists. Generally the important issues seek me out. ;-) What's important about the job is the buck stops here. Non-PMC members certainly have expectations of the PMC. If no particular PMC member steps forward, the chair is expected to ensure that issues are dealt with. The board is *extremely* adverse to having things delegated upward. So, anybody who is considering the job, an important character trait is the ablity to be dispassionate in disputes (i.e., hotheads need not apply). And to be able to be virtually on call at any point in time. In case it appears that I am portraying any of this in a too negative light... the plus side is that you will have a wonderful set of people supporting you. Both within the PMC itself and on the board. Then maybe it'll indicate to people whether they have an interest, and how long they'd desire to serve etc. Hen - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PMC chair nominations?
Sam Ruby wrote, On 18/03/2003 19.51: ... Officially, I have been told that all that it entails is an email once a quarter with the status to the board. This is a lie. ... Hehehe... as an Avalon chair in these months, I know what that means too ;-) ... the plus side is that you will have a wonderful set of people supporting you. Both within the PMC itself and on the board. Yes, I can confirm this fully :-) Being a chair carries responsibilities. What Sam has depicted is a very nice and correct explanation of what being a chair means. Any takers with the guts? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PMC chair nominations?
Sam said that we should obtain nominations for chair from people in the (potentially expanded) PMC ranks by the 16th, followed by [a]n election where every member of the PMC has one vote...to be completed on the 18th. Whoops, we're late. Are we obligated to choose a chair this month. I don't think we have enought time left for a proper vote. - Morgan = Morgan Delagrange http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs http://jakarta.apache.org/commons http://axion.tigris.org http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
