Re: offtopic - Woodcrest vs. Xeon

2006-10-24 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Thanks, Geir,

Yes, I'm comparing two Woodcrest chips (4 cores total) with 2
single-core Xeon chips.  I'll check the specs again -- good comments.

Someone recommended this Wiki article, I really liked it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Xeon

That's pretty cool about the benchmark.

WILL


On 10/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Full disclosure, I work for Intel. :)

First, are you sure it's a 2GHz Woodcrest?  I thought it would be a 3GHz
part.

Second, is it two Woodcrest (for 4 cores total) or just 1 Woodcrest?

Third, woodcrest is an internal code name, and the parts are sold
under the Xeon brand, so which Xeon is a question you want to ask the
vendor - it could be woodcrest based as well.

Finally, the current world record in spec's JBB2005 benchmark is held by
IBM with their JVM on woodcrest (Xeon 5160) at 114k bops/JVM on a 4 core
machine...

You can go see the results here :

http://www.spec.org/jbb2005/results

geir


Will Glass-Husain wrote:
 Hi,

 This is a little off-topic but I thought I'd do a quick poll.  I've
 got an opportunity to reconfigure my multi-server Tomcat/Java setup
 for a computation-heavy webapp.  One vendor is proposing  dual process
 Woodcrest (dual core) 2.0 GHz, the other is promoting dual Xeon
 3.2GHz.  The Woodcrest's have slower clock speeds but the dual core is
 supposed to make it faster.

 Just curious if anyone has experience with the Woodcrest servers - in
 particular if anyone has benchmarked Sun's JDK on the two processors
 with a computation heavy app I'd love to hear from them.  (Can Sun's
 JDK make effective use of the multi-processor, multi-core system?)

 Cheers, WILL


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Re: offtopic - Woodcrest vs. Xeon

2006-10-24 Thread Dain Sundstrom
IIRC the single core xeons are the old architecture, and really suck  
(speed, heat and cost) compared to the new core architecture.


-dain

On Oct 23, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Will Glass-Husain wrote:


Thanks, Geir,

Yes, I'm comparing two Woodcrest chips (4 cores total) with 2
single-core Xeon chips.  I'll check the specs again -- good comments.

Someone recommended this Wiki article, I really liked it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Xeon

That's pretty cool about the benchmark.

WILL


On 10/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Full disclosure, I work for Intel. :)

First, are you sure it's a 2GHz Woodcrest?  I thought it would be  
a 3GHz

part.

Second, is it two Woodcrest (for 4 cores total) or just 1 Woodcrest?

Third, woodcrest is an internal code name, and the parts are sold
under the Xeon brand, so which Xeon is a question you want to ask the
vendor - it could be woodcrest based as well.

Finally, the current world record in spec's JBB2005 benchmark is  
held by
IBM with their JVM on woodcrest (Xeon 5160) at 114k bops/JVM on a  
4 core

machine...

You can go see the results here :

http://www.spec.org/jbb2005/results

geir


Will Glass-Husain wrote:
 Hi,

 This is a little off-topic but I thought I'd do a quick poll.  I've
 got an opportunity to reconfigure my multi-server Tomcat/Java setup
 for a computation-heavy webapp.  One vendor is proposing  dual  
process

 Woodcrest (dual core) 2.0 GHz, the other is promoting dual Xeon
 3.2GHz.  The Woodcrest's have slower clock speeds but the dual  
core is

 supposed to make it faster.

 Just curious if anyone has experience with the Woodcrest servers  
- in
 particular if anyone has benchmarked Sun's JDK on the two  
processors
 with a computation heavy app I'd love to hear from them.  (Can  
Sun's

 JDK make effective use of the multi-processor, multi-core system?)

 Cheers, WILL


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Re: offtopic - Woodcrest vs. Xeon

2006-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Full disclosure, I work for Intel. :)

First, are you sure it's a 2GHz Woodcrest?  I thought it would be a 3GHz 
part.


Second, is it two Woodcrest (for 4 cores total) or just 1 Woodcrest?

Third, woodcrest is an internal code name, and the parts are sold 
under the Xeon brand, so which Xeon is a question you want to ask the 
vendor - it could be woodcrest based as well.


Finally, the current world record in spec's JBB2005 benchmark is held by 
IBM with their JVM on woodcrest (Xeon 5160) at 114k bops/JVM on a 4 core 
machine...


You can go see the results here :

   http://www.spec.org/jbb2005/results

geir


Will Glass-Husain wrote:

Hi,

This is a little off-topic but I thought I'd do a quick poll.  I've
got an opportunity to reconfigure my multi-server Tomcat/Java setup
for a computation-heavy webapp.  One vendor is proposing  dual process
Woodcrest (dual core) 2.0 GHz, the other is promoting dual Xeon
3.2GHz.  The Woodcrest's have slower clock speeds but the dual core is
supposed to make it faster.

Just curious if anyone has experience with the Woodcrest servers - in
particular if anyone has benchmarked Sun's JDK on the two processors
with a computation heavy app I'd love to hear from them.  (Can Sun's
JDK make effective use of the multi-processor, multi-core system?)

Cheers, WILL



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offtopic - Woodcrest vs. Xeon

2006-10-20 Thread Will Glass-Husain

Hi,

This is a little off-topic but I thought I'd do a quick poll.  I've
got an opportunity to reconfigure my multi-server Tomcat/Java setup
for a computation-heavy webapp.  One vendor is proposing  dual process
Woodcrest (dual core) 2.0 GHz, the other is promoting dual Xeon
3.2GHz.  The Woodcrest's have slower clock speeds but the dual core is
supposed to make it faster.

Just curious if anyone has experience with the Woodcrest servers - in
particular if anyone has benchmarked Sun's JDK on the two processors
with a computation heavy app I'd love to hear from them.  (Can Sun's
JDK make effective use of the multi-processor, multi-core system?)

Cheers, WILL

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