[gentoo-dev] bison/flex extra runtime packages
Hi there! I'm working on a cross compilation to native windows from an Interix Gentoo Prefix, using the normal Prefix portage tree. My setup is nearly the same as when really cross compiling, except that I can execute what I compile. I use command line utilities (DEPEND atoms) from Interix, and all others (RDEPEND, PDEPEND) from winnt. Now some package of mine in a local overlay requires bison and flex. It's quite hard to get those to build _and_ work on winnt, so I though about splitting the bison ebuilds in dev-util/bison and dev-libs/bison-runtime (and the same for flex). What do you think about this? Before we started using portage at our company I built the runtimes only for winnt, so I know this works (for me)... Is there any better Idea around? Cheers, Markus
RE: [gentoo-dev] bison/flex extra runtime packages
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:27:29AM +0200, Duft Markus wrote: Now some package of mine in a local overlay requires bison and flex. It's quite hard to get those to build _and_ work on winnt, so I though about splitting the bison ebuilds in dev-util/bison and dev-libs/bison-runtime (and the same for flex). What do you think about this? Before we started using portage at our company I built the runtimes only for winnt, so I know this works (for me)... Does yacc build+work maybe? Hmm, haven't tried, I must admit, since our software has an explicit depend on binson, since it uses it's runtime library. That's why I would require distinct packages for bin and runtime. Bin should be built as interix executable, which dependes on m4, which I just can't get to work on winnt, and runtime should be built as winnt, since I need to link against it. After playing _many_ hours, this seems to be the only solution. If there are objections against this, I can do it in a local overlay. I just wanted to discuss it, to not do it in the overlay when others might want this too, and just don't have time to do it :) Cheers, Markus -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer Infra Guy E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
[gentoo-dev] RE: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer: Michael Hammer (mueli)
Joinin us from Graz, Austria is Michael mueli Hammer. He will be joining us to maintain kerberos related packages. Michael is responsible for the infrastructure at the Graz University of Technology and they run Gentoo of course. So no longer do you have to think about moving to other distros as this corner hopefully stays maintained. If he does a poor job on it it's time for the hammer and sickle. On his free time Michael restores and old Mini from 1975. Hehe, Graz on the advance ;) Welcome. Cheers, Markus Regards, Petteri
RE: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)
On 2008-05-01 03:20, Duft Markus wrote: Hi! Just read the mail-archive and (i'm not at work), and felt that I have to say something about the binary packages on windows ;) (so sorry for what the outlook web-access thingy does to emails and threads :)) Have you seen this?: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ Yeah thanks, i used to use this one. But (of course) it doesn't work with the web-interface, and since a few days i'm running outlook 2007, with which it - grml - doesn't work neither. Still with the real outlook i managed to at least get it to quote with ;) Cheers, Markus -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
AW: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)
Hi! Just read the mail-archive and (im not at work), and felt that I have to say something about the binary packages on windows ;) (so sorry for what the outlook web-access thingy does to emails and threads :)) Right now we start using Gentoo Prefix as the primary development environment at our company. For that reason I really need a quick and easy method of setting up new machines with any of the three available version combinations of windows and interix (Interix 3.5 runs on Win2K and WinXP, Interix 5.2 runs on Windows Server 2003R2 only, Interix 6.0 runs on Server 2008 and Vista). For that purpose I wrote a setup program, which is capable of installing Interix itself (also the required windows components), setting up some basic things (for example some configurations in /etc, installing openssh, etc.), and finally unpacking a binary prefix snapshot. The snapshot is basically just a tar of a freshly bootstrapped prefix (with some extras like gnome-terminal already compiled), normally rooted at /opt/gentoo. The snapshot is unpacked there, and voila setup takes about 20 minutes, and after that (if you have an X server running, like for example the open-source Xming the free one is really unperformant though ) you can start gnome-terminal to start working, yeeha! Haubi and I had the idea, that binpks would be possible too, and as a little extension, it would be really cool to have an installer like Cygwin has for example. This poses some other problems though, like runpaths etc. I think this approach is better usable for the planned win32 cross prefix this one will be really cool: cross compile windows native binaries using parity [1] into a separate prefix, which contains only binaries that can run completely without interix (theoretically ;)). [1] http://www.sf.net/projects/parity Cheers, Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Fabian Groffen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mi 30.04.2008 20:40 An: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Betreff: Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft) On 30-04-2008 21:21:06 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On 4/30/08, Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think in that sense Cygwin is more Open Source, because how you get the primary shell/environment is available too. However, for me that doesn't matter, as the OS itself is inherently non-free in that sense, so that's what you have to accept first thing anyway. I separate operating system and applications... Just like you run on HPUX or AIX... There is Windows. Ok, then SFU is just your entry point to the system, like your login on AIX or HPUX. Just for your information, we don't do stages at the moment, not in the forseeable future from my point of view either. Binpkgs are in the planning. In general we just do a full bootstrap, on Interix you need extra help from prefix-launcher. This is sad... I would really like to see fully operating portage on Windows... It was more important to me in the past when I actually used this OS... Well... making stages takes time, but more importantly, requires you to store them somewhere, and infra has no space for that. I do, but my internet connectivity is not sufficient for that. Besides, using Portage's binary support is more flexible, as the Prefix isn't fixed, but adjusted to your need(s). I this sense [1] was a great idea! You could always use quickpkg to extract binaries. I probably misunderstand. quickpkg creates binpkgs, doesn't it? [1] http://gentoocygwin.sourceforge.net/ -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list winmail.dat
RE: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)
It's my pleasure to introduce Markus Duft (mduft) as a new developer. He will go among us under the name of mduft, and will work in the Gentoo/Alt project porting Gentoo Prefix to Interix. Yes, people, that means Gentoo on Win32. Hope this doesn't scare away people ;o) Did you have to blazen this out? Markus lives with his wife and daughter in Graz, Austria. He seems to have many hobbies like reading fantasy novels, building remote-controlled model planes, crashing remote-controlled model planes, and last but not least, playing good old board games with his wife. Err... Markus, we are a mature audience here, so no need to call that good old board games, OK ? Hehe, i feel misunderstood ... :) He shares an office at work with Michael Haubenwallner (haubi), who is strangely also a member of the Gentoo/alt project. Please everybody, give a very warm welcome to mduft. Thanks ... @Gilles' flamethrower: i don't think that i like it _that_ hot, but i haven't tried ;) Cheers, Markus Denis. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list ���^�X��� ��(��j)b�b�
