Re: [gentoo-user] running X at nice -10

2003-02-06 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:47, gabor wrote:
 and now back to the topic:
 IS GIVING A HIGHER PRIORITY TO X A GOOD IDEA OR NOT ?  

I can't say whether it is, or not. But, I can say that I already do.
Doesn't really seem to make any real difference tho, but I never really
had a problem before (or they were so random and rare it's nigh on
impossible to say).

Someone posted this a while ago, what I use now, works perfectly.

/* wrapper.c
 * Casey Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *
 * This is a quick hack that starts X with a priority
 * of -10 for increased responsiveness. It should work
 * but it may not :)  There is no warranty or anything.
 * Although I can't see anything possibly going wrong as
 * there's only about 3 lines of code, worst case you
 * have to reinstall X. Basically, you should never run
 * code that you don't understand. That said:
 *
 * To use this program, verify that /usr/X11R6/bin/X is
 * really a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 (the actual
 * server binary) If not, then change the *app to point to
 * the actual binary.
 * At the console (be careful..no typos):
 *   kill X and anything X-related (ie: xdm, kdm)
 * $  gcc wrapper.c -o XFree86.wrapper
 * $  su
 * $  cp XFree86.wrapper /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  cd /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  ls -alk X (make sure its a symlink..if not STOP)
 * $  rm X
 * $  chown root.root XFree86.wrapper
 * $  chmod u+s XFree86.wrapper
 * $  ln -s XFree86.wrapper X
 * $  exit
 *
 * You should now be able to startx or xdm or whatever.
 * Open an xterm and run 'top'. The process XFree86
 * (which is the server) should be running at nice -10.
 *
 * If not, then make sure the XFree86.wrapper is suid
 * root, executable by all, owned by root, and pointed
 * to by /usr/X11R6/bin/X.
 *
 * To revert is easy.
 * $  su
 * $  cd /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  rm X
 * $  ln -s XFree86 X
 * $  exit
 */
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include sys/stat.h
#include sys/types.h

const char *app = /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86;   // the actual binary
const int root = 0;   // root's uid
const int n = -10;// desired nice priority valid range -20..20.

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
  seteuid(root);// The X server must be started as root under any
Linux
  nice(n);  // Makes it nice
  execv(app, argv); // This is it!
  /* Should never see this unless *app points to invalid binary */
  fprintf(stderr, Failed to execv %s with nice value of %d\n, app, n);
  exit(1);
}

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Re: [gentoo-user] What the £$%^ happened?

2003-02-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 11:37, MAL wrote:
 On a similar note, does anyone else think it would be a good idea for 
 emerge to collate the 'information' text that packages such as portage 
 dump to the console while emerging, to display at the end of a long emerge?
 
 OK, portage isn't a problem any more, because it halts the emerge, but 
 when I emerge a lot of other packages together, useful info messages 
 that the package designer obviously wants read, speed by and are lost... 
 only to be found by reading the ebuild :/

That has been discussed many times over, and I believe it's being worked
on (wasn't that a feature mentioned in a weekly newsletter?)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where Are COMPLETE stages?!

2003-02-13 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 08:38, Matthew Tedder wrote:
 These two sources:
 
 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2
 
 
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stages/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2

[snip]

 I grabbed it twice...  My architecture is the VIA Eden ESP, so I grabbed it 
 for i586.  I first considered raw x86 earlier but there was nothing but 
 stage1 available.  
 
 The ISO only contains a stage1 package, so I downloaded the stage3.

 Originally, I was impressed by the documentation and portage--but I have yet 
 to see a working installation.  I cannot even compile the kernel without 
 these basic tools missing the packages..

mike@pinky:~$ wget
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stages/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2
mike@pinky:~$ wget
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stages/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2
 -c
mike@pinky:~$ tar -jtf stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2 |grep bin/sh
./usr/bin/shred
./usr/bin/sha1sum
./usr/bin/showkey
./usr/bin/showfont
./usr/bin/shar
./sbin/shutdown
./bin/sh
./bin/shred
mike@pinky:~$ tar -jtf stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2 |grep bin/make
./usr/bin/makeinfo
./usr/bin/make
./usr/sbin/makewhatis
mike@pinky:~$ tar -jtf stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2 |grep bin/clear
./usr/bin/clear


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Re: [gentoo-user] --deep oddity

2003-02-13 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:51, MAL wrote:
 Hi, could someone help me better understand why --deep does the things 
 it does :)
 
 I have gkrellm-2.1.5 installed, and an emerge -pu --deep world says:
 
 
 [ebuildUD] app-admin/gkrellm-1.2.13 [2.1.5]

I would check the ebuilds, they probably have different SLOT variables,
so should live together peacefully. Most likely something else you
have/will install, requires that old version.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree slowdowns... is that normal?

2003-02-15 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 17:44, gabor wrote:
  Usually this behavior only occurs on a slower machine.  I used to encounter 
  that on my PIII-800MZ, but now that I'm using an Athlon-XP 1900, I don't see 
  that behavior.  You can overcome that by giving the X server a negative nice 
  value before starting something like a kernel compile or a lengthy emerge.
  
  If you would like, I can dig around and locate the script I used to run at 
  startup from local (requires sudo).
 
 ok, please locate that script.

Someone posted this attachment ages ago, works nicely for me, and
doesn't require sudo.

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/* wrapper.c
 * Casey Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *
 * This is a quick hack that starts X with a priority
 * of -10 for increased responsiveness. It should work
 * but it may not :)  There is no warranty or anything.
 * Although I can't see anything possibly going wrong as
 * there's only about 3 lines of code, worst case you
 * have to reinstall X. Basically, you should never run
 * code that you don't understand. That said:
 *
 * To use this program, verify that /usr/X11R6/bin/X is
 * really a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 (the actual
 * server binary) If not, then change the *app to point to
 * the actual binary.
 * At the console (be careful..no typos):
 *   kill X and anything X-related (ie: xdm, kdm)
 * $  gcc wrapper.c -o XFree86.wrapper
 * $  su
 * $  cp XFree86.wrapper /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  cd /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  ls -alk X (make sure its a symlink..if not STOP)
 * $  rm X
 * $  chown root.root XFree86.wrapper
 * $  chmod u+s XFree86.wrapper
 * $  ln -s XFree86.wrapper X
 * $  exit
 *
 * You should now be able to startx or xdm or whatever.
 * Open an xterm and run 'top'. The process XFree86
 * (which is the server) should be running at nice -10.
 *
 * If not, then make sure the XFree86.wrapper is suid
 * root, executable by all, owned by root, and pointed
 * to by /usr/X11R6/bin/X.
 *
 * To revert is easy.
 * $  su
 * $  cd /usr/X11R6/bin
 * $  rm X
 * $  ln -s XFree86 X
 * $  exit
 */
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include sys/stat.h
#include sys/types.h

const char *app = /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86;   // the actual binary
const int root = 0;   // root's uid
const int n = -10;// desired nice priority valid range -20..20.

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
  seteuid(root);// The X server must be started as root under any Linux
  nice(n);  // Makes it nice
  execv(app, argv); // This is it!
  /* Should never see this unless *app points to invalid binary */
  fprintf(stderr, Failed to execv %s with nice value of %d\n, app, n);
  exit(1);
}




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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo init system : was [Re: [gentoo-user]service parameter passing?]

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 13:48, Phil Barnett wrote:
 What I miss in Gentoo is the simple format for services like found in Redhat 
 and many others, ie:
 
 service servicename stop/start/restart
 
 It eliminates needing to know where the service directory is or including it 
 every time.
 
 service httpd stop
 
 is a lot easier than any other incarnation and make any system easier to 
 admin.
 

legolas files # cat /usr/bin/service
#!/bin/bash

if test -x /etc/init.d/$1
then
  /etc/init.d/$1 $2
else
  echo Service not found.
fi

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Need to downgrade KDE; how is a specificversion specified with emerge?

2003-02-19 Thread Mike Williams
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 14:23, Adrian Head wrote:
 Doing a grep on /var/cache/edb/world for kde only provides:
 hercules edb # grep kde world
 =kde-base/kde-3.0.5a
 media-gfx/pixieplus-kde
 net-analyzer/kdevmon
 
 Is there something else or should I rebuild Gentoo from scratch to see if it 
 works?

Yep (kinda), and no.
Just lose the =

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Need to downgrade KDE; how is a specificversion specified with emerge?

2003-02-20 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:02, Adrian Head wrote:
 I'm still struggling with this;
 
 Why is emerge still trying to upgrade KDE?:
 [ebuildU ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1-r2 [3.0.5a-r1]
 [ebuildU ] kde-base/kdebase-3.1-r1 [3.0.5a-r2]
 
 I expect that because of this behaviour I will need to put kdelibs  kdebase 
 in the /var/cache/edb/world file?

Quite possibly. Doesn't --deep look at ALL installed packages?
I never installed 'kde', always individual components, so I can't be
certain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.1 konqueror keyboard shortcuts

2003-02-20 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 22:42, Collins wrote:
 Questions about keyboard shortcuts:
 
 1. How do I find out about existing konqueror shortcuts?
 2. Can shortcuts be added?
 3. Is there any way (shortcut or other) to oepn a new empty tab as in other 
 browsers?  Right click menu only offers open in new tab, which dupes the 
 url you are currently using, and then you have to x out the url in the new 
 tab before continuing.

1) I find Configure Shortcuts on the Settings menu helps :)
2) Yep
3) Ctrl+Shift+n

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.1 konqueror keyboard shortcuts

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 00:11, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 On Thursday 20 February 2003 07:44 pm, Mike Williams wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 22:42, Collins wrote:
   2. Can shortcuts be added?
  2) Yep
 
 How?

The answer to 1 answered that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE one more time!

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 01:36, Brett I.Holcomb wrote:
 1.  Is my edited /etc/make.conf really used during bootstrap.
 
 2.  Is the USE variable used for stage 1?

Sort of.
If you look in the bootstrap script there are (were?) references to
'cleanup', this, I believe, handles the moving around of make.conf.
It does make sense to drop to a known, good, solid set of parameters
(not just USE) when doing the actual bootstrap. The gcc, glibc,
binutils, etc you are left with should have been compiled to your specs
when it's all finished, as they are compiled at least twice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde and superuser

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 03:58, Johnh wrote:
 Anyone know what kde does internally when you select filemanager
 superuser mode?

It will ask you for the root password.
You can run any program this way, with kdesu.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestion to portage

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 09:43, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
 What happens today when #1 finishes compiling? It starts and waits for
 #2 to finish downloading. It would be the same, just a little faster.
 Instead of starting #2 from the begining, it would already be started,
 and would just need to wait for it to finish.

I was thinking more from a code point of view :)
Also, what happens to the downloading output?
Never having coded python I have no idea how it could handle 2 output
streams.

 This would benefit mostly big packages (like X or kde*), that take a lot
 of time to compile. While it compiles a 13mb tbz2, there's plenty of
 time to download the rest of needed packages.

Certainly, no matter how fast your connection, or for that matter, how
small a compile, it would be useful.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestion to portage

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 09:48, Joshua Moore-Oliva wrote:
 I believe this functionality already exists..  a -f option seems for some
 reason stuck in my mind.
 
 I've never usedit, but I've heard it mentioned int he forums try searching
 there.

-f fetches all tarballs, for later compilation.
I use it mostly when I'm at work (mmm, 8meg all to myself at night :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.1 konqueror keyboard shortcuts

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 14:00, Stephen Boulet wrote:
 What program gets exected by the configure shortcuts menu? I don't seem to 
 have one under Settings.

As far as I can see, it's just another thread of konq...
I certainly don't think I have anything unusual installed, just kdelibs,
base, and utils.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Samba

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 17:59, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 After emerging Samba and following the tips from gentoo webpage  I
 started Samba. I get:
 lpstat: Unable to connect to server : Connection refused.
 
 Does anyone know what this means? Do I need to emerge any other
 application? I'm using cups and I have already emerged cups. Any ideas?

I used to get that, so I change my smb.conf thus (among other things)

sauron root # diff /etc/samba/smb.conf.example /etc/samba/smb.conf
20c20
workgroup = WORKGROUP
---
workgroup = HOME
37,38c37,38
printcap name = lpstat
load printers = yes
---
 #   printcap name = lpstat
 #   load printers = yes
43c43
printing = cups
---
 #   printing = cups
269d268

273c272
browseable = no
---
browseable = yes


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.1 konqueror keyboard shortcuts

2003-02-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 18:42, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Ahhh You meant you can add new keyboard-shotcuts to already defined 
 actions.

Sorry, should have been more verbose first time around :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge kde 3.0.x

2003-02-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 10:23, Jens Mayer wrote:
 Anyway, this will leave very few files in /usr/kde/3.0.5/ (if that's
 what the dir was called, I erased it completely), just look at them
 and consider whether you can delete them or not.

Or, to be safer, do 'qpkg -f /usr/kde/3' (or 3.0.5), and either unmerge,
or remerge any packages still using it (probably just shortcuts, or
icons), then delete/move/backup/archive the rest.

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Re: [gentoo-user] keyboard shunt

2003-02-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 19:24, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know how I can wire up a ps2 connector to fool a 
 server into thinking that a keyboard is attached? Or, is there a 
 command to tell my server to ignor keyboard errors durring a remote 
 reboot?

All bioses (bioii ?) I've seen have had an option to select what errors
to stop on., and none of the desktops or servers I've owned/admin'd have
had a problem with booting headless.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sudoers w/wo passwd...

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 06:47, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
 [snip]
 
 Hm. It seems I now *am* asked for a password -- but I managed to do a
 mount without password... Odd.

sudo remembers that you've entered a password for a short period, 5
minutes springs to mind.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sudoers w/wo passwd...

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 06:52, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
 Ah - thanks. Sorry for being clueless :]

We were all clueless once :)
Even us Linux Gods (LMAO)

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Re: [gentoo-user] chost, cflags, and cxxflags examples

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 20:44, Jason Giangrande wrote:
 Anyone have any examples of the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS settings  for a dual 
 Athlon system or know of any links that explain these settings more?
 

I use this on my athlon-xp (someone posted it here a while ago)

CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-finline-functions -fforce-mem -s -funroll-loops -frerun-loop-opt
-fdelete-null-pointer-checks -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ffast-math
-maccumulate-outgoing-args -fschedule-insns

I think there is a specific athlon-mp arch, don't know what it might do
though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kroupware

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Williams
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 00:33, Luke Graham wrote:
 There is a tgz on http://kontact.org/latest.html . If you need anything, I 
 work with Don Sanders (kontact maintainer), and I know hes excited about a 
 Gentoo ebuild because he keeps asking me to do make one and I keep telling 
 him I will Real Soon Now :P

I think now you've owned up you will have to start telling us lot you'll
do it RSN :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] New portage userpriv (I think)

2003-03-05 Thread Mike Williams
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 18:54, Alex Walker wrote:
 The new portage can use the userpriv stuff, and I have it enabled.
 
 Part of this requires the distfiles directory to be g+rw, hence every time 
 portage is run, it appears that portage runs chmod -R g+rw 
 /store/distfiles/ (yes, that's where my distfiles are).  The problem occurs 
 when it's recursing into the cvs-src directory.. in which I have a few things 
 - - the whole of KDE, E17 and galeon to name the main ones.  This means there's 
 174394 files and directories being chmodded each time portage is run... 
 obviously slowing it down considerably... my distfiles dir is only 1043 
 files, so it is about 174 times slower than just doing that dir...
 
 Solutions I could do right now:
 i)Change the cvs root place, so it doesn't do this... but would this muck up 
 userpriv stuff still?
 ii)   Disable userpriv
 
 It'd be nice if there was a more elegant solution than those I think... any 
 ideas?
 

As per my reply to Norberto Bensa [ReadOnly???]

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16768

Edit /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py and comment out the 4
lines (all together) mentioning chgrp, chown, somewhere around line 1435
IIRC.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree Unmasked?

2003-03-06 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 10:16, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
 The portage manpage is allways lagging behind on the features. Even the help 
 funcion is, although that is most times less behind. The --help function can 
 be seen as the authorative source of information about portage though.

Not trying to sound like a moan, but --help should contain a *short* (i.e. 1 
line) description, and the man page the long description. Same goes for init 
scripts.
I hate getting spamed with 5-6 pages of information when all I want to know is 
the options available :)

IMO the documentation is excellent (when fully upto date), just slightly in the
wrong place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1 Compile fails at kdeaddons

2003-03-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 06:37, richard terry wrote:
 I've not received any replies on where to find the log file for the compile.
 The emerge.log simply noted the failure. I downloaded another copy of the
 kdeaddons from another mirror and it crashed at the same place. I couldn't
 copy the file anywhere, but it said something I think on line 117. Also I
 noticed, just before these messages that it said something about lib ogg
 vorbis having been moved, however it all scrolled off the top of the screen
 too quickly to catch.
 
 Does this help?

What is wanted is the last few lines of the output *before* the compile
failed, *and* all the lines of errors as it died. Generally, you'll get
one error, and a short cascade of additional errors as the compile dies.
If the compile generated a warning, but continued it'll probably have no
impact.

As for re-downloading from another mirror, that's a waste of effort, as
portage checks the MD5 sum of the downloaded file before it unpacks it.
So you can be sure you've got the correct file.


Damn, I sound mean. Sorry, rather irritated after 9 hours at work alone,
with 3 more to go, and tired :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1 Compile fails at kdeaddons

2003-03-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 06:05, richard terry wrote:
 Mike, 
 
 I can understand from this what you need, however I still don't know how to 
 'capture' those last few lines short of writing them all down, and the 
 compile seems to fail and stuff goes past so fast it scrolls off the top of 
 the screen.
 
 Sorry, I'm not more capable of describing it.

Ahh, a console user?

I'd suggest using 'tee', i.e. 'emerge kdeaddons|tee a_log_file'.
You'll still get the output to the console, but it will be written to
a_log_file also.

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Re: [gentoo-user] text mode email program

2003-03-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 06:09, richard terry wrote:
 I'm trying as previously mentioned to figure out why kdeaddons fails to 
 compile, and I don't know if there is a text mode email program in the basic 
 install I could use, instead of having to pull the hard drive out  and swap 
 to a working gui-linux distribution to do my mailing to the list.
 
 Any suggestions

I hear good things of mutt, but never used it myself.
There is something based on/around emacs I believe (gnus ?)
But my personal fave is pine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mod_php error

2003-03-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:39, Louis C. Candell wrote:
   checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... no
   configure: error: libjpeg not found!
  
   !!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.1 failed.
   !!! Function src_compile, Line 217, Exitcode 1
   !!! bad ./configure
 
 Use the following USE flag in /etc/make.conf :
 
 -jpeg
 
 That should work.

I'd be inclined to look at the config.log, especially as I have php
installed with jpeg enable, to actually find the error.
In my experience many 'libblah not found!' are attributed to broken
installs (i.e. a dependancy got removed), and usually fixed by
re-emerging the affected lib.

(I couldn't read the TOC of DVDs' from dvdrip, it kept popping up a box
and telling me to put a DVD in the drive. I found where the error was
generated in the source, and the failing command (tcprobe) which
triggered it. Running the command manually showed a missing lib
(libdvdread), re-emerged transcode, and I carried on and divx'd the DVD)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office packages

2003-03-08 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 05:15, Troy Dack wrote:
 OpenOffice - takes about 2 days to build
 OpenOffice-bin - takes about 10 minutes to install
 
 -bin is pre-compiled the binary package available from openoffice.org

and not as good looking.
In my experience, compiling it yourself is a looong process, which
swallows bob loads of memory, cpu, and disk, but the results are worth
it. OpenOffices' fonts (especially menus) looked so much nicer
afterwards. After all, it's only time, install the -bin version to get
you going (if you need), and compile over night (or 'nice -n 19 emerge
openoffice', and it won't disturb you :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge(portage) problem

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:11, Alain Penders wrote:
 Portage tries to chown that directory to root, so if distfiles is mounted such
 that creating root files/dirs isn't allowed, portage will fail.  That might be
 the difference between your machines  check for differences between the
 /etc/fstab files.
 
 If that doesn't help, you could try deleting /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src,
 and then run portage again (as root).

Or, comment out these 4 lines in
/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py

#   os.chown(settings[DISTDIR]+/cvs-src,0,portage_gid)
#   os.chmod(settings[DISTDIR]+/cvs-src,06770)
#   spawn(chgrp -R +str(portage_gid)+
+settings[DISTDIR]+/cvs-src, free=1)
#   spawn(chmod -R g+rw +settings[DISTDIR]+/cvs-src, free=1)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge(portage) problem

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:24, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 Dangers security risks doing this??

Nope, the bug is that portage will try to change the permissions
everytime it runs. The permission change isn't really needed anyway, you
can always change the permissions manually once, and stop portage doing
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Re: [gentoo-user] ?meaning of error message on kernel compile

2003-03-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 22:36, Richard Terry wrote:
 I used the instructions on the win4lin site: ie 
 
 
 patch -p1  patchname   patch.log 21 
  ^ is a 1 (the number)

 In both cases I get the followin in the error message logs: 
 
 
 patch:  strip count l is not a number 
  ^ is an l (the letter)

 Any help appreciated. I'm almost at point of terminal frustration. 

Letters are not numbers :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ?meaning of error messages on kernel compile

2003-03-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 23:37, Richard Terry wrote:
 Mike the letters are not number comment doesn't help me. 

err...

 What dies it mean, ie has the patch failed, is there are error in the patch 
 code or the way I'm applying it. 

Letters aren't numbers, you've given a letter argument when a number was
required.
The example you gave had a number, the error you gave had a letter.
(-pint is the strip count, or how many lines to ignore at the top of
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mplayer install failing while merging libdv

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 13:59, Don Smith wrote:
 Ah ah! Looks like the old libarts problem. For some reason the lib isn't 
 found anymore after an upgrade to KDE 3.1. Here's what I did to get it 
 to work:
 
 ln -s /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libartsc.so /usr/lib/libartsc.so
 
 Then be sure to call 'ldconfig', just to make sure, and retry to compile 
 MPlayer. It should work. I hope. :)

 Now that is the answer I am looking for!  That was it, it is compiling 
 away right now :)  I had just upgraded to KDE 3.1.1 recently. 
 
 Thanks to all for the suggestions. 

That's a nasty workaround, I'd be inclined to check and fix 
/etc/env.d/49kdelibs-3.1  /etc/env.d/56kdedir-3.1 (or similar), run
'env-update  source /etc/profile  ldconfig'.
I know you're already compiling, but it'll only break again after the
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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution and KDE

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 20:44, Ben Sparks wrote:
 Does Evolution run well on a KDE system?  I thought that it was only for 
 Gnome, but I am probably mistaken.  I would like to try it; is there any 
 special configuration required for evolution in KDE?

Mostly, there is no such thing as a 'gnome application', or a 'kde
application', merely apps written written for different widget sets
(gtk, qt, ...). Many will require some/many libs from one, but should
work in the other.

Or, more simply. Yes, it works fine, I'm using the setup you describe
right now :) Just install evolution, portage will do it's job and
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[gentoo-user] Reply-To !

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
To whoever did it.

Dude, you rock! :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution and KDE

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 21:04, Ben Sparks wrote:
 Thanks guys, I'll emerge as soon as I can, is it a big package?  Should 
 I let it go over night or no?  I was planning on having openoffice 
 compile overnit, but I might do evolution instead.

It's a beast!
Added to all the gnome libs you may need, you could be looking at a few
(single digit) hours compiling. I upgraded my laptop (celery 650) to evo
1.2.3 earlier, took a good hour to compile.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.5.x kernels

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 02:44, Collins Richey wrote:
 I'm getting ready to experiment with 2.5.x kernels.  One requirement is
 the module-init-tools package all versions of which are masked.  Can
 this package be merged without interfering with my current 2.4 kernel?

Yup, the module-init-tools package renames the binaries it overwrites,
but still works fine with 2.4.x modules.
I've had a 2.5 kernel here, on the lappy, but soon went back to a 2.4

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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution and KDE

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 21:42, Ben Sparks wrote:
 I have an Athlon XP 2400+ with 512mb RAM, I hope it'll finish before
 bed, so I can start an office suite over night...another question. Open
 office or koffice?...or both which would you prefer?

Depends on what time bedtime is :P
It's 0255 here, night shifts suck...

I very *very* rarely use any office package, so can't comment really,
but OpenOffice annoys me due to it's massive bloat, and funky javaness
(I know we have at least one openoffice developer in our ranks, so I'll
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.5.x kernels

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:34, Collins Richey wrote:
 And I presume the module-init-tools dependancy
 =sys-apps/devfsd-1.3.25-r1
 must be non-fatal, right?

IIRC it's only a minor downgrade, isn't it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mplayer install failing while merging libdv

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 04:23, Mitchell James wrote:
 What are these files?  What do they do? and  where is the
 documentation?  I have never looked at them before.

Bits of global environment variables
env-update merges them all together, to build the global environment
variables (PATH's, lib locations (ld.so.conf), and other cool stuff)
*shrug*, reading documentation is the last thing I do (if at all)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Make Errors Help Needed

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Williams
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 05:54, Ralph F. De Witt wrote:
 Thanks for your help. What does the make mrproper command do? I have not run into in 
 the Linux System Commands book or the 6 inches of Gentoo documentation that I have 
 download and printed out to help with the install. The documentation that I have 
 read only indicated that you should do a emerge sync, emerge sys-kernel/sources, 
 then cd /usr/src/linux, then source /etc/profile, then make menuconfig etc. The only 
 change to that was to remove the symlink to the kernel and rebuild it to the new 
 kernel if you are changing kernels.
 Just confused and about 8 feet up the wall trying to fix the last problems on the 
 system and getting nowhere fast.
 Thanks for the help. Will let you know how it goes.

mrproper (to my knowledge) is unique to the linux kernel makefiles. It's
like clean on steroids, and is designed to return the entire tree back
to it's original state. All configuration, generated includes, compiled
source, etc, is removed, forcing the regeneration/compilation of
everything.

The errors you've been getting may be indicative of an incorrect
.config, if you copy a .config from a older/newer configured kernel,
edit it (bad things can easily happen from manually editing), run 'make
oldconfig' first, then menuconfig if you wish to check things over (I
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.5.x kernels

2003-03-24 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 03:19, Collins Richey wrote:
 Here's yet another thought.  I'm using ALSA. Is it possible to have ALSA
 with 2.5.x without messing up sound for 2.4.x?
 
 I question all this, because the kernel developers are now actively
 seeking testers for 2.5.x, but I'm not interested if it screws up my
 2.4.x setup.

The only issue I hit was snd-pcm-oss not loading automagically, like it
does with 2.4. Otherwise I can currently boot 2.4 or 2.5 with no issues.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---- /etc -config updates needed

2003-03-24 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:24, FX wrote:
 So just curious,
 
 
 if you dont want to update the /etc file can you just delete the config
 files that are pending in the /etc folder?
 
 example  /etc/X11/app-defaults/._cfg_blah

Yup, etc-update (and emerge, I hope), just scan for ._cfg00blahblah

 but on the other side  how do you just update the ones you want out of
 the config list
 
 example  /etc/X11/app-defaults/._cfg_pickme  for updating?

Do it manually, or run etc-update and pick it from the list shown (each
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution freeze problem

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 13:28, Martin Polley wrote:
 Evolution locks up for up to a minute every few minutes. During this
 time, it does not redraw parts of its windows (though it DOES draw the
 window frame, the folder bar, the menus and the toolbar).
 
 I am using:
 
 Evo 1.2.3 (though the same problem occurred in previous versions)
 KDE 3.1
 Gentoo 1.2
 2.4.20_lolo_r1 kernel

I've used evo for months and months now, never had any sort of lockup
problem, or funky crashes. What I *have* had weird problems with is
things like pre-empt and low latency.
Give a vanilla, or gentoo kernel a go, without low latency or pre empt a
go (I was never able to notice any real performance, or latency gain
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RAID

2003-03-26 Thread Mike Williams
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 16:46, Francois Meehan wrote:
 Hi Robert,
 
 Did you have any luck?
 
 I am having the same problem, my raid controller is a 2100s Raid 
 controller, certified for RH and suse, obviously not for Gentoo...

I hate that, there should be no such thing as certified for RedHat!
Linux, is Linux.

Have you tried a bastardised redhat kernel? It's masked, but there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] php with pspell ???? install

2003-03-27 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a server running Getnoo 1.4rc2, with phpGroupware, and I want to get 
 the spell check working.  I inquired on their list about what is needed for it 
 to work and they indicated that I needed to compile pspell into php and it 
 would automatically see it and use it.  I looked in the Gentoo forums and 
 packages and seems that pspell has been left behind for the better aspell.  My 
 questions is how can I use aspell to replace pspell in php? 
 
 Thanks for any ideas.

A quick grep of the php ebuilds
  grep spell -rni /usr/portage/dev-php/
shows you need to add 'spell' to your USE, and re-emerge.

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[gentoo-user] OT: Log into remote X server via kdm

2003-03-28 Thread Mike Williams
Hi all,

My turn to go a bit OT, sorry :)

I've been digging around for a while at this, but not found a good
enough answer.

What I want to be able to do is, 1 big headless server running X and KDE
(or may even Gnome, and others too), and multiple desktops boxes (3-4 to
start with) able to login to it.
I can already hear calls of LTSP from the back, but... The desktops will
be fully independent, capable of, and set up to run their own X servers
and desktops.

So that I can use them (especially the laptop) away from the home
network they must start their own X server, and KDM login screen. From
there give me the option on what server to login to.

Yeah, I could use VNC, but having to log into one, to ssh into another
to run a command, to log in again is... messy...

Ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic Update of KDE menus

2003-08-17 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 18 August 2003 01:02, Stefano Marinelli wrote:
 Hi there. Is there a way to update automatically the kde menus with new
 programs, as soon as they get installed?

kappfinder searches for new programs, adds those you wish to the menu, but 
doesn't find everything and needs to be run manually.

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Re: [gentoo-user] transcode

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 20:11, plord wrote:
 Hi All,

 I've emerge'd transcode but it isn't the latest version.  I notice that
 the gentoo cvs has a later ebuild file.

 Whats the right way to get transcode 0.6.8 emerge'd ?

transcode 0.6.8 is currently marked as 'unstable', if you really want/need it 
installed do
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge transcode
or ~ppc

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 13:26, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

 Look into /var/lib/init.d/started and delete the cupsd file. You should be
 then able to use /etc/init.d/cupsd start again.

/etc/init.d/blah zap

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Compaq

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:38, Roar Johnsen wrote:

[snip]

 But here it goes wrong, For instance I'm not able to do : df
 It says : df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or
 directory

 In /dev I can't find ida/disc0/disc
 I only have /dev not /dev/ida

 What happend? I've tried to download stage 1 from antoher place. After
 that I have /dev/ida but not /dev/ida/disc0/

 Is there a workaround for this, have I done something wrong?.. I have
 installed Gentoo many times. But it's the first time I've tried to install
 it on a Compaq DL360.

I had gentoo on a DL360, with 3 disks in a raid 5 array.
df has never worked correctly for me once in the chroot jail on any machine, 
and nor should it do.
/dev is a filesystem, and (unless you specifically did so yourself) not 
mounted on /mnt/gentoo/dev, remember you are in a chroot jail :)
Once the necessary partitions are mounted (/, /boot, /usr, etc) you shouldn't 
need to access /dev. If you really need it, then mount it :)
mount -t devfs none /mnt/gentoo/dev

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 14:19, MAL wrote:

 The main problem will be pentium3 specific instructions used because of
 the -march switch.  Unless someone can state for certain that the Athlon
 XP is backward compatible with the pentium3, (unlikely), you will need
 to recompile your entire system.

 In theory, emerge -eD world, should do this.  However this poses a
 problem in itself, because if you compile it on the old motherboard,
 with -march=athlon-xp, it will break when a newly compiled utility tries
 to use athlon-xp instructions on the P3.

 It may be possible to untar the i386 stage1 tarball over the top of your
 existing system, which would mean your base system, (bare bones boot,
 glibc and compiler), will run on the new motherboard.

 You should then be able to 'emerge -eD world'.  Don't take this for
 gospel :)

How about recompiling everything with -mcpu=athlon-xp on the P3, will work on 
both then. Could change to -march=athlon-xp at a later date, if so wanted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GPG signature bad?

2003-08-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Friday 22 August 2003 17:54, Brian Richardson wrote:
 My GPG signature has just showed up as bad in KMail (It worked
 yesterday...). I've done a world update since then. Is my signature bad? Or
 is something else to blame?

Your signature shows as valid here...

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Re: [gentoo-user] X Window again

2003-08-23 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 23 August 2003 19:35, Pupeno wrote:
 Not being able to solve my X window problem I'm posting it again hoping
 someone *new* has a clue of what'is wrong with this.
 I ssh to a box, with X forwarding enabled (I know the box works because I
 did it from another distribution in this same computer and it worked
 without problem), I run an X application and I get this:
 _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for tcp
 _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for tcp
 _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for tcp/localhost:12
 Error: Can't open display: localhost:12.0
 If nobody knows what's wrong... can someone point me where can I ask about
 it ?
 thank you.

Have you tried ssh'ing to the host with -v (or -vv, or -vvv) and inspecting 
the output for errors/oddities?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X Window again (more update)

2003-08-23 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 23 August 2003 21:36, Pupeno wrote:
  _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for tcp
  _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for tcp
  _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for tcp/localhost:13
  Error: Can't open display: localhost:13.0

 I run ssh with -vvv and I get this when sshing...
 debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth list :1.0 2/dev/null
 Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
 debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.

I too get exactly this, and X forwarding works.

A quick google suggests needing network lookback support, which I have as a 
module and isn't loaded, nor do the /dev/loop* devices exists. It could 
always do some funky stuff somewhere else in the kernel that I don't know 
about, and anyway it can't hurt trying :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage killed itself

2003-08-24 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 23 August 2003 21:55, Simon Mushi wrote:
 Hi people,

 Wow, I can't believe it...after upgrading portage just today...I realized
 that it removed itself after I the upgrade.

 when I try to run emerge i get: -bash: emerge: command not found
 ...even accessing the manual : No manual entry for emerge
 ...even kportage sigfaults to something is definitely wrong.

 Is there anyway I can get portage back. Otherwise I guess my workstation
 is pretty much dead in the water :(

 Appreciate any help whatsoever

/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files/README.RESCUE is there for such an 
eventuality!

Good luck!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleting /var/tmp/portage/*

2003-08-24 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 24 August 2003 07:56, Dmitry Suzdalev wrote:
 Hello gentooers!

 A short question: Is it safe to wipe out contents of /var/tmp/portage
 directory?

 Quick searching in docs didnt give me an answer (perhaps that's because I'm
 too sleepy now).

 Thanks in advance for answers.

Yes, just don't do it while any emerge is running.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage errors

2003-08-24 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 24 August 2003 05:28, David wrote:
 I get the following message whenever i use emerge (emerge sync, emerge -upv
 world...etc).  Emerge last worked about 4 hours ago when I emerged mutt,
 fetchmail and procmail.  Then...

[snip errors]

Woah, cool error.
It seems to mention the portage db/cache, you wouldn't happen to have run out 
of space on /var would you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help please! I screwed up!

2003-08-25 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 25 August 2003 20:56, Klaus Neumann wrote:
 After compiling a new kernel (and exchanging my second HD) I got this while
 trying to boot:

 Mounting /proc ...
 Mounting devfs at /dev ...
 modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
 /lib/modules/2.4.4-4GB/modules.dep
 (No such file or directory)
 The mount command failed with error:
 sf type devfs not supported by kernel ...
 ... startup cannot continue.

 What does this mean, and how can I fix it?

2.4.4-4GB ?!?
Anyway, chroot into your install and try this
depmod -a -F System.map for 2.4.4-4GB

 I'm writing this email from Win98, which I installed to go online. Of
 course it wiped out my lilo. :-(

Lilo ?!?
Use grub, it's so much easier :)

 I hope someone can tell me how to get out of this mess, without
 re-installing everything! TIA!

This is linux we're talking about here, with chroot and a working bootable 
medium pretty much only a fatal hard drive crash should force a reinstall

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which livecd for AMD Duron 900Mhz please

2003-08-25 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 25 August 2003 20:50, latin hypercube wrote:
 i686 presumably or is athlon-xp suitable for this processor series.

 Thanks in advance.

i686 definitely, athlon-xp is unlikely.
The only differences I can see between my athlon-xp and duron are that the 
duron has apic and athlon-xp has sse. The sse thing should be the kicker.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Questions

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 25 August 2003 23:51, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:
 I just purchased a copy of Gentoo Linux 1.4 to replace Red Hat 9.0.  I have
 been using Linux off and on for a year now but the Red Hat distro could not
 convince me to switch over to Linux full time.  Thus, I ran Windows and I
 used SSH secure shell to access my Unix accounts.

Welcome, and congratulations on your excellent decision :)

 First question.  My notebook has a duel boot partition running both Windows
 XP Pro and Red Hat Linux 9.0.  Will I be able to install Gentoo right over
 the Red Hat partition?  Honestly, I never plan to use Red Hat again.  I
 will definately not miss their surveys to keep my membership current.

Yup. I haven't read the install docs in a long time, but the partition layout 
described are purely a suggestion. If you only have a single partition that 
will do nicely. I believe there is some special code to handle the automatic 
mounting of /boot for special cases, but I wouldn't worry too much if you 
don't have a /boot (my laptop now , and when I can be arsed desktop and 2 
servers, mount /boot ReadOnly).

 Second question which I am sure many of you asked.  From which tarball
 stage should I install?  During the demo at Indiana University, they
 started with stage3 since they told us it takes a couple of days of
 compiling before you can get a working systems with Gentoo.  Is still still
 the norm for 1.4?  I will be installing Gentoo on a Dell Inspirion 8100
 notebook with a Pentium III 1 GHz Processor with 512 megs of RAM.  Which
 stage did most of you start from?

I'm a stage 1 guy, have been since my very first installation. Depends on how 
comfortable with linux you are, and how much bandwidth and time you have. 
Then there is the geekiness/masochist aspect :o)

 I have a feeling I will be asking more questions once my CDs arrive.

Ask away, there are plenty more people here, many of whom I'm sure know a lot 
more than I.

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[gentoo-user] depend/use problet

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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Allo all,

Since installing mythtv on my desktop I have come across a possibly fairly 
major defect with portage.
The mythtv ebuild depends on, among other things, QT (should also depend on 
mysql, but that's another matter).
If the ebuild did depend on mysql *before* QT on a system without QT already 
installed I believe there would be no problem.

My desktop already had QT installed, and no mysql. So QT didn't have mysql 
support, which mythbackend and some of the other tools it seems require.
I imagine some of you are now seeing the problem.

Obviously QT needs to have mysql installed before it's built to enable it's 
support, simply adding a dependancy to mysql before QT (in mythtv for 
example) will have no effect on QT if it's already installed.
The current state of dependancies, as I understand them, have no way to know 
the USE flag settings those dependancies were built with.

For those developers/gurus among us, is this even a remote possibility?

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Re: [gentoo-user] depend/use problet

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 01:38, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 August 2003 09:15, Mike Williams wrote:
  My desktop already had QT installed, and no mysql. So QT didn't have
  mysql support, which mythbackend and some of the other tools it seems
  require. I imagine some of you are now seeing the problem.

 That is a definate problem if I understand you correctly, Basically what
 you are saying is that mythtv *requires* both QT and mysql and *requires*
 mysql support in QT but mysql support in QT is *optional*. Is that correct?
 To further add to the problem, even if QT wasn't installed prior to mysql
 it still would not be built with mysql support because it is not in the USE
 flags. Well spotted!

That is correct.
While I was writing and QT was recompiling I did a separate manual configure 
of QT using the basic configure string from the ebuild, sans any USE optional 
flags. It picked up the mysql client library, but not the header files (the 
mysql USE flag has to add another include path, /usr/include/mysql).
So I imagine you are correct again, mysql would need to be in USE as well.

 Sounds like another deficiency of the blanket USE flags system. Any devs
 care to comment?

 Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Question

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 19:45, Meph Istopheles wrote:

[snippage and rearrangement]

  # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo
  # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
  # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
  # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home
  # mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/gentoo/home
  # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/backup
  # mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/gentoo/backup
  # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/backup2
  # mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/gentoo/backup2

   This is something which caught my eye when I was skimming the
 docs:  /mnt/gentoo.  Is this a system thing, or is there a time
 one will actually be editing docs  have to remember that
 /mnt/gentoo... is required as opposed to /, which is all I've
 done with RH, slack  FreeBSD?  Maybe my migrain is effecting my
 coherence

  Code listing 7.2 shows how to mount a typical simple partition
  layout from _within_ the InstallCD chroot.

   Ah, chroot.  I've only used this during rescue operations with
 RH.  It'll be odd having to do this as a part of install, but
 that's cool.

Create the directories, mount the partitions, untar the stageX tarball, and 
chroot into /mnt/gentoo.
Using /mnt/gentoo is completely optional, you could make it 
/a/totally/pointlessly/deep/directory, once you've chroot'd it will be /

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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 19:53, Chris de Vidal wrote:
 Volunteers needed!
 http://debtoo.org

I'm confused...

==

 DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

==

 Probably not.  Seems like far less work if you like Debian's feature X,
 modify the Gentoo source to include this (and submit the code back to
 Gentoo), rather than changing all of Debian to support downloading the
 original sources and compiling ala Gentoo.

What is this project?
Adding gentoo-esq automatic source compilation to debian, or debian package 
management systems/ability to gentoo?

I don't mean to be patronising or critical, it's just I don't understand :)
Doesn't debian already have source packages? (deb-src apt sources) Never used 
them myself, so don't know how they work.

I moved from debian to gentoo myself, over a year ago. But there is still one 
box here running debian, which I hate touching. dpkg and apt just don't cut 
it for me anymore :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge option for dependencies?

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 21:23, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I'm looking through man emerge but not finding an option to let me
 determine which packages on my system would be effected by removing a
 package that is currently installed. emerge -Cp gnupg says it would just
 uninstall that package. Can I be sure that no other packages will break if
 I do this?

It would be nice in this case to see some sort of tree display of what
 uses what, but I think that's not too practical. (If it is, please tell me
 how!)

You won't find it in emerge, but qpkg part of gentoolkit.

legolas root # qpkg -I -q gnupg
app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.2-r1 *
DEPENDED ON BY:
app-arch/rpm-4.2_pre069
net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3

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Re: [gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 23:14, Greg Donald wrote:

 What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?

sauron root # qpkg -f `which mail`
net-mail/mailx *

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mask issue: I checked emerge info

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 21:37, Tom Wesley wrote:
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ~x86

 Change to ~x86 only

Yup, no need for the x86 as well.

The other problem is:

legolas root # grep -B2 -A1 xmule /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask
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net-p2p/lmule

Oddly the only versions in portage are masked because of security holes...
Just comment out the xmule line and you'll be set to go. Remember, any sync 
you do will revert your changes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mask issue: I checked emerge info

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 22:14, Robert Young wrote:
 The only problem was the security holes.

 Thanks for all the quick responses.

 In a perfect world should emerge not have reported

 Calculating dependencies
 !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy net-p2p/xmule have been HARD masked.
 please see package.mask

 !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.


 This would have saved me and others some time. Should I request an
 enhancement for this?

Can't hurt.
My feeling is tho it won't get done.
Things in package.mask are there for a reason, quite often because they are 
broken, break other packages, or do other nasty or untested things. You could 
then argue that they should be in portage in the first place, but they need 
testing by people with the knowledge and experience to test and/or recover 
from a nasty mess.

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:15, Owen Ford wrote:
 If he is using dhcp he very well might have to change those hosts
 listings very frequently.  I don't have a good solution either ;)

I do :)
DHCP + djbdns + http://www.thismetalsky.org/magic/projects/dhcp_dns.html

It's all fairly straight forward once you've got your head round djb. I can 
provide more assistance when I've woken up a little (I really shouldn't keep 
my laptop next to my bed...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups/gimp-print not working

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:25, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 Bill,

 Should I downgrade ghostscript too?

Nope, just gimp-print.

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Re: [gentoo-user] install gentoo with out cd/floppy drive

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 01:51, Davi Jose O Bueno wrote:
 Hello,
 Anyone could help resolv this problem.
 I have 2 computers, one pentium II 10Gb Hd, 128Mb Ram, with out drive and
 another is Ahtlon 800Mhz, 30Gb Hd, 512Mb Ram, whti drives floppy/cdrom.

 How can i install gentoo on pentium ii?

2 options really, both you mention below.
If you really don't want to move the cdrom across you'll have to compile a 
basic working install on the athlon for the pentium. There isn't much to do 
in a stage3, is there?
Subsequent upgrades, in time, will wipe out pretty much everything that you 
didn't compile yourself, or you could emerge -De world later on.

 Little more information:
 The pentium is with out OS
 I can install the hd of pentium in the atlhon for copy
 the stage*-date.tar.gz and other minor things
 I would like boot and compile all things in pentium.
 I don't want to move the cdrom to the pentium until the install is finish.
 the athlon is running mdk9.1
 the computers are in lan with adsl internet connection

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Help - Gentoo Load Fails at modules.conf.

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 15:33, Nicholas Pappas wrote:
   Hello all.

   I've felt my way through the install process for Gentoo for my first
 time and everything seemed to work out... but I seem to have missed
 something, somewhere. :(
   When the OS attempts to load, I get an error when trying to mount the
 filesystem.  The system can not find modules.conf (it is, infact,
 *not* there).  It complains about that a few more times and then pops up
 this message:

Once you're running, run modules-update. That will build a modules.conf from 
the files in /etc/modules.d/

   If the partition table has not be changed, and the partition is valid
 and it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the superblock is
 corrupted and you need to run --rebuild-sb.

   My root parition is ReiserFS (boot is ext3).  I finally get an error
 message:

   Warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/ROOT exited with signal 6.
* Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(

   I'm then asked for the root password, so I can try and repair something
 I don't know how I broke in the first place.
   Could anyone please help me out to get my system to boot?  This is my
 first attempt at Gentoo, and I'm a bit confused as to what I should even
 be looking for right now.

Christopher has already answered this.

Boot with you're gentoo CD, chroot in and fix things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 18:38, Tony Rein wrote:
 Here's another suggestion: Check into alias ip numbers. I'm sorry I don't
 remember the exact syntax under Gentoo (I'm at a RedHat computer right
 now), but it involves the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 file (or net.eth1, net.eth2,
 whatever your card is).

[snip]

 192.168.0.240 marvin

 Then, no matter what ip your DHCP server happens to hand out, your other
 computers can find marvin.

 I hope this helps.

Now that is an ingenious solution, filled for future reference!

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Re: [gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:50, Marius Mauch wrote:

 That seems to happen from time to time, problem is that it's going
 unnoticed in most cases and is probably not reproducable when it's
 noticed. Search bugs.gentoo.org for an existing bug report and file a
 new one if there is none.

Is 'system' part of 'world', or separate? Seems separate from the results 
below.

sauron root # emerge -up `qpkg -I -nc`

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] dev-libs/elfutils-0.84 [0.76-r2]
[ebuildU ] sys-apps/devfsd-1.3.25-r3 [1.3.25-r1]
[ebuildU ] sys-devel/prelink-20030811 [20030217]

sauron root # emerge world -Dup

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] dev-libs/elfutils-0.84 [0.76-r2]
[ebuildU ] sys-devel/prelink-20030811 [20030217]

sauron root # emerge system -Dup

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating system dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] sys-apps/devfsd-1.3.25-r3 [1.3.25-r1]

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-28 Thread Mike Williams
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On Thursday 28 August 2003 15:31, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Along the same line, I have 2 gentoo boxes behind a linksys router. They
 both have static internal IP's. From /etc/hosts:

 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain   localhost
 192.168.1.2   hostname_1.domainname..com  hostname_1

 and

 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain   localhost
 192.168.1.2   hostname_2.domainname..com  hostname_2

 Neither machine can ping the other with the hostname, only with the IP.
 What am I missing here? The router is a Linksys BEFSR11

hostname_1 should define the IP and name for hostname_2, vice-versa.
Also the double dot (..com) is wrong, only need one dot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread Mike Williams
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On Thursday 28 August 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
 Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux
 swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I
 have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you
 recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole
 HD to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy'
 every night ?
 Thank you.

I'd say your best bet is rsync.
Something possibly as simple as 'rsync -xlpogt --delete-after / /mnt/backup'.
Never really managed to get my head round rsync properly :o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Private ebuild unmerge problem

2003-08-31 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 31 August 2003 00:00, Paulo da Silva wrote:
 I am writing a small ebuild, mainly to install some last versions of
 packages I want to try.
 Emerging seems to work fine but when I try
 emerge unmerge foo.ebuild
 I got a message telling foo.ebuild is not in /var/db/pkg !

Drop the .ebuild bit.
Once it's installed, no matter where the ebuild is/was, it's installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] basic Gentoo CD doesn't boot

2003-08-31 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 31 August 2003 20:17, drewbian wrote:
Is there something more terrible then a dialup connection?
  
   No connection?
 
  Celine Dion?

 Celine Dion streamed over a dialup connection?

Celine Dion flooding a broadband connection?

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Re: [gentoo-user] libphp4.so

2003-08-31 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 31 August 2003 18:02, Ben Anderson wrote:
 so then shouldn't php create this file when it emerges?  Why is it not on
 my system and how do I get it?

No.
Your problem relates to apache, so you need mod_php.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libphp4.so

2003-08-31 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 31 August 2003 14:01, Ben Anderson wrote:
 hello,
 I've been having ongoing problems when I updated my system(of which
 included Apache 1.3 to 2.0 and PHP and MySQL).  This is the error I get
 when I do: apache2ctl start:
 Syntax error on line 22 of /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf:
 Cannot load /etc/apache2/apache2-extramodules/libphp4.so into server:
 /etc/apache2/apache2-extramodules/libphp4.so: cannot open shared object
 file: No such file or directory

 I did a find on the whole hard drive but didn't find libphp4.so anywhere.
 I've tried revdep-rebuild and also builder.sh.  Could someone just tell me
 the way that I know I can fix it.  I don't care how long it takes - I am
 willing to put in time.  I'm just sick of being clueless.  Should I just
 forget emerging php and follow the instructions on php.net

php is the command line executable, mod_php is for inclusion in apache.
The output from the ebuild will tell you which version of apache it's being 
compiled and installed for.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PyXML disappeared?

2003-08-31 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 31 August 2003 21:08, Andrew Farmer wrote:
 Hey all.

 After a recent emerge rsync, running emerge -up `qpkg -I -nc` gives me
 the error:

   !!! Couldn't find match for dev-python/PyXML

unmerge: no packages selected for removal.

 qpkg -I lists PyXML as being installed, but there seems to no longer be
 an ebuild for it. Does anybody know how I could just rip this out of the
 database to make emerge happy again?

 (I'm using ~x86. Guess this is what I get when I go for the unstable
  branch...)

You could try re-emerging *pyxml*.

It would seem PyXML became pyxml, caused all sorts of problems when the 
modified ebuild hit the mirrors. Until the name was changed back to PyXML 
*inside* the ebuild.

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Re: [gentoo-user] k3b not detecting burner

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 16:20, Adam Dunstan wrote:
 ive added

 append = hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi

 to my lilo conf and rerun lilo

 now after a reboot k3b wont detect any drive as a reader or wrighter.

 so i think i need to have ide-scsi load automaticaly at boot time, but i
 dont know how. man modules.conf is conufusing because i dont realy
 understand the modules lingo.

 any help?

- From about version 2 of cdrtools there is NO NEED FOR IDE-SCSI EMULATION!

I have k3b running on a ~x86 box (cdrtools v2.01_alpha18 verses v2.01_alpha14 
for stable).
Make sure you've run k3bsetup, then if k3b itself still doesn't detect it add 
the device manually (find out where /dev/{cdrom,cdrw} points to ultimately, 
it'll be /dev/ide/...). Sometimes mine will detect it properly, sometimes it 
won't. But k3bsetup (and cdbakeoven) find it everytime, weird.

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Re: [gentoo-user] k3b not detecting burner

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 16:58, Adam Dunstan wrote:
 k3bsetup is detecting my burner as a Reader, but not as a writer

I take it the info it detects from the drive says that it doesn't burn CDs or 
CD/RWs?
If it does, sounds like a bug.
You might try something else, like cdbakeoven.

 when i changed the lilo conf, k3bsetup dident detect either my dvdrom or
 burner as a reader or writer

 also /dev/cdrw doesent exist on my pc...

Maybe I added that symlink then, I forget :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] keyboard from hell (Logitech Elite Duo)

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 19:29, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Pupeno wrote:
  I was using, both of them, with USB to PS/2 adaptors because I can't type
  on GRUB with an USB keyboard (is that posible ?).

 Some BIOSs have the option to use a USB keyboard, which I believe lets
 it emulate a PS/2 keyboard. I don't know if this actually works in GRUB,
 but it certaintly can't hurt.

It does. I can work in grub with my USB keyboard (fairly normal keyboard, few 
extra buttons that don't do anything), with USB mouse plugged into it.

The computer turns on and off, runs KDE, logs in and out, and reboots without 
error. My Mum and brother use it, neither are IT literate and have no 
problems so it must work well :) Sorry I can't be of any more use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync back up

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 17:16, Pupeno wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm using a modified script of the one that was posted recently to make
 back ups... sometimes when I do the back up, I get this at the end:
 wrote 112104962 bytes  read 202820 bytes  205128.37 bytes/sec
 total size is 41357449389  speedup is 368.25
 rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620)
 It doesn't say why it couldn't tranfer the files nor which files where
 them... so, I'm kinda lost of how to solve them problem, does anybody have
 an idea ? Thanks.

Do you have any symlinks out of the are you're backup?

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync back up

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 22:14, Ernie Schroder wrote:

   I see Peter in there and I just GOT to pick his brain some more.
 I'd like rsync to log some basic information such as  the summary I see
 at the end, time started and time ended, but not all the file lists I
 see scrolling by. I have written a file, saved as /etc/rsyncd.conf on
 both the client and host, that has the single line:
 log file = /var/log/rsync.log
 on both machines there is no rsync.log being written. IIUC, the log
 should, or if the .conf was right, would be written to the machine that
 is the destination of the backup. But:

 $ tail /var/log/rsync.log
 tail: /var/log/rsync.log: No such file or directory

 I've even resorted to rebooting the destination box. Still no joy. I'm
 obviously missing something here could you point me in the right
 direction?

rsync.conf is for the daemon. The daemon generally listens for connections, 
and sends files out. Should really be split into 2 binaries, rsync and 
rsyncd.
I haven't followed this thread fully, but I understand you are in fact 
transferring the files over ssh. This is what I have always had to do when 
using rsync in this manner.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wanting to install gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 01 September 2003 22:19, Adam Mercer wrote:
  You might try checking /var/cache/edb/virtuals.
  I think I remember having a similar problem, and it turned out that
  portage, at some point, had left gentoo-sources in virtual/linux-sources.

 Theres no mention of gentoo-sources in /var/cache/edb/virtuals, or
 virtual/linux-sources either, could that be the problem?

That wasn't what I was thinking, but yes, it is the problem, I'm sure.
There will be something you've got installed which depends on virtual/
linux-sources as portage believes you don't have anything installed which 
provides it, it's picking something.

You can add the line you need yourself, just like the rest. Note the extra 
space(s) on the end of each line, don't know if it matters, but suspect it's 
to make the code easier or something.

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Re: [gentoo-user] php installation

2003-09-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:53, momesana wrote:
 greetings, everybody.
 I have trouble installing php. It quits with the following errormessage
 that I have inserted at the end of this file. I found some mails on the
 internet that discussed this problem.
 see http://maclux-rz.uibk.ac.at/~maillists/sablotron/msg04029.shtml for
 more on this (the programmers of sablotron answering an email request).

 anyone having a clue on how to fix it?
 please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanx in advance, momesana!

 jsdom-ref.xml
 Can't locate XML/Parser.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
[snip]
 !!! ERROR: app-text/sablotron-0.97 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 26, Exitcode 2
 !!! (no error message)

Sablotron depends on dev-perl/XML-Parser, which provides XML/Parser.pm. So I'm 
not sure why it can't be found.
Where is XML/Parser.pm on your system, and what version of perl do you have 
installed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Add a window manager to KDM

2003-09-02 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:21, Nicholas Pappas wrote:
   Can anyone point me to a site (or go over the steps) showing how to add
 a new window manager to the KDE login manager?  Specifically, I am
 looking to add WindowMaker.
   I found a brief writeup on the KDE site, but it gave a few example and
 I wasn't sure which one to use with Gentoo.  Any help would be greatly
 appreciated!

Oddly enough this is something I happened to chance across about a week ago!
I have no idea if this is purely a gentoo specific thing, probably isn't.

Drop an init script into /etc/X11/Sessions.
Seems to only need to be called whatever you associate with, and contain 
enough to start the desktop environment, for example:
 sauron root # cat /etc/X11/Sessions/kde-5
 #!/bin/sh
 /usr/kde/cvs/bin/startkde

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Re: [gentoo-user] subversion

2003-09-02 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 02 September 2003 21:55, Alcino Dall Igna Junior wrote:
 Forget that never mind... :(

 After a successful (or at least an apparently success) commit,
 I get this:
 
 svn log
 svn: Berkeley DB error
 svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/repos/bin'
 svn:
 Berkeley DB error while opening environment for filesystem
 /home/svn/repos/db:
 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
 

 and db4_recover, directly or via su apache makes no difference.

 I think that subversion was easy than cvs... :(

Did you create a totally fresh repository?

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Re: [gentoo-user] log in without X

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 23:07, Chris wrote:
 I have a problem I was editing /etc/rc.config when my cat jumped right in
 the middle of my keyboard. Needless to say my X session is now trashed. How
 do I get back in so I can fix it?

I don't see anything in /etc/rc.conf that could 'trash' X. I assume it just 
doesn't start?
So why not just log into the text console and fix it? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: module errors

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 15:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, here is the exact verbage I get:
[snip]
 modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
 modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
 modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
 modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
 * Configuring kernel parameters...[ok]

Could you try a 'depmod -a', then reboot?
In theory it should create the dependency file, but I've never run with no 
module support at all, so who knows.

 * Cleaning /var/lock, /var/run... [ok]
 xargs: environment is too large for exec
[snip]
 I would like to clean up the four modprobe errors.  Also, I am curious
 about the xargs entry as well.

So would I!
Couple weeks back I tried to figure out, but lost.

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Re: [gentoo-user] continued depmod problems

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 19:43, Mark Knecht wrote:

At this point all the drivers that I seem to need are running without
 errors. However, depmod is not happy about other things installed on my
 system:

 Wizard root # depmod -a
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/atm/atmtcp.o
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
 SNIP
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sched/sch_teql.o
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r2/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o
 Wizard root #

 There are  about 50 failures like this.

 Here's the basic series of events as best I remember them them:

 0) I tried running genkernel, but it started compiling without giving me
 a chance to configure, so I Ctrl-C'ed out of it.

 1) I needed USB support which was not built into my kernel.

 2) I ran make xconfig to get USB turned on, but there were a lot of
 things I wasn't sure about, and I had a working Redhat machine running a
 2.4.21 kernel, so I copied over that .config file into /usr/src/linux.
 (Could this cause this sort of problem?)

 3) I built the kernel using

 make dep clean bzImage install modules modules_install

After changes of this magnitude, coupled with the aborted compile, you really 
should backup your .config (VERY important!), then run a 'make mrproper', 
copy the .config back and run either 'make oldconfig/menuconfig/xconfig' then 
your usual 'make dep clean .'. 'make mrproper' puts the source tree back 
into a state as close to untouched as possible.

 This morning I tried moving the existing lib/modules/gentoo* directory
 out of the way and ran make modules_install again, and still get the
 same depmod -a failures after a reboot.

There is no need to move existing modules out of the way before 
module_install'ing, the make does that itself.

 I notice that I have other gentoo-sources installed, but /usr/src/linux
 is still pointing at 2.4.20-r2. Does this matter? Should I repoint to
 2.4.20-r6 and build from there? Why would this matter?

You shouldn't *have* to, as to find the current running kernel, source tree 
and module location you can use 'uname -r'. But I'm pretty sure there are 
things in the portage tree which check for the symlink, so it's best to keep 
it current.

 Can anyone venture a guess as to what I did wrong here?

I ventured!
Bet I didn't succeed tho :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging without ccache

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:22, Paulo da Silva wrote:
 Hi,

 I couldn't get lilypond compiled because of ccache!
 I needed to unemerge ccache, emerge lilypond and
 then reemerge ccache again. Is there a way to emerge
 forcing ccache or distcc not to be used?

Yep, check /etc/make.conf and remove ccache and distcc from FEATURES.
If FEATURES isn't set, thus using the defaults, then do an 'emerge info' find 
out what is being used and set FEATURES minus what you don't want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev permissions

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:19, Paulo da Silva wrote:
 Hi!

 Where are the /dev permissions kept?
 I changed some /dev permissions but I would like to restore
 them to the original status.

devfs should reset some of them upon un/reloading of the appropriate modules 
or a reboot, otherwise /dev entries are basically the same as normal files.
If what you have changed doesn't get reset after a reboot, and is causing you 
trouble post to the list and I'm sure someone can tell you the default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgraded from 2.4.20r5 to r6 ???'s...

2003-09-07 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 11:39, Joshua Banks wrote:
 When I issued the commad:

 emerge -u world

 My kernel was upgraded form 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 to r6. Among other things.

[snip]

 If I do a uname -a, it shows that I'm still running 2.4.20-gentoo-r5.

 Did I do the right thing after upgradeing or do I need to reboot as well?

Kernels, under no circumstances, are automagically built and installed for 
you. What emerge did was put the new source onto your system, for you to 
compile.
The kernel is far too important to risk messing with in an automated way.
You can use the genkernel script to help.

 Is there some type of Standard Operating Proceedure after doing an emerge
 sync ,emerge -u world and/or right after downloading anytype of
 application..I.E. ethereal, Gaim, ect..ect.. that I should be following for
 best practices?

Not especially, just update the config files as asked.

 Can I download other applications (tar.gz's) that aren't included in the
 portage tree without effecting Gentoo in anyway?

You can, just follow the convention of putting them into /usr/local/..., and 
remove them again if they appear in portage. All kinds of horrid compilation 
problems can ensue if out of date libraries are found, especially when they 
aren't under portage's control.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can Gentoo install source file?

2003-09-07 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 08:20, TaZZ wrote:
 Hi!
 I'm newbie in Gentoo...
 Can Gentoo install tar.gz source file (how one rpm-package install Red Hat
 :-)) or I must do:
 ./configure
 make
 make install

If it's not in portage, then yes, that's basically what you would have to do.

If feeling brave you could try knocking up a simple ebuild for it. Just don't 
put it into /usr/portage cos your next rsync will delete it. :)

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