Re: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
I am not familiar with Windows CD burning software, but there should be an option for you to Open an ISO file. Sometimes it is called Open a disc Image, or something similar. What you have done is, instead of burning the iso as a raw data, making a CD of the iso. You want to think of the iso as a CD in itself, and essentially you are trying to copy the information from the "cd" onto a real CD. To answer your other question: A distro is short for distribution. Linux itself is only the kernel, it lets you turn on the computer and pretty much that's it. All the fancy programs like OpenOffice, Xorg, America's Army and all the less fancy programs like gcc and perl run on top of the kernel. Those programs are what makes your computer usable. A distro is a collection of programs, along with a selection of kernels that a group of people put together. People prefer running a distribution rather than installing everything from source manually because the time it saves and the mess it prevents. Also distros mean community and support. Now, Gentoo is sort of a DYI distro. Some familiarity with the inner workings of a computer, and some familiarity with the over-all unix-style operating systems are assumed, especially during the installation. It is a learning experience, and it can be a very overwhelming learning experience. Therefore, while I highly recommend Gentoo in general, I would say that Gentoo is not for beginners. hope that helps. W On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:15:59PM +1000, Nanayakkara, Pubudu wrote: > This may be the issue, > > I only have one iso file.. > "install-amd64-universal-2005.0.iso" > > Gentoo installation guide doesn't say that I need to have more than one > file. So, I downloaded only the ISO file. > > Cheers, > Pubudu. > -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * "You should be excited by this, because it is an equation you can solve." ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 8 days, 16:42 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
This may be the issue, I only have one iso file.. "install-amd64-universal-2005.0.iso" Gentoo installation guide doesn't say that I need to have more than one file. So, I downloaded only the ISO file. Cheers, Pubudu. -Original Message- From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 2:39 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD Did you burn the data file or burn the iso? If you look at the CD in Windows what do you see? (Should be folders and files - not a single iso file. Next, does your PC boot from CD. Some people turn that off or place it after the hard drive so they can leave a CD in and still boot. check BIOS. Third - if you have more than one CD drive then try the other one. cheers, Mark On 4/19/05, Nanayakkara, Pubudu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My PC has Windows installed. I am trying to boot it up with Gentoo > boot CD so I can install gentoo on it. But it is failing to read the boot CD. > > What could be the problem? > > Cheers, > Pubudu. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
Yes, I can see the file on Windows, and I have changed the BIOS to boot it from CD. But it still doesn't work. BTW what is distro? - Pubudu. -Original Message- From: Tres Melton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 2:38 PM To: Gentoo List Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD Change the order of the boot devices in your BIOS. You might make sure that you can actually see the CD from Winblows so that you know it is readable. If this is your problem then you might want to try a distro that is geared more towards new Linux users. On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:12 +1000, Nanayakkara, Pubudu wrote: > My PC has Windows installed. I am trying to boot it up with Gentoo > boot CD so I can install gentoo on it. But it is failing to read the boot CD. > > What could be the problem? > > Cheers, > Pubudu. > -- Tres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
Did you burn the data file or burn the iso? If you look at the CD in Windows what do you see? (Should be folders and files - not a single iso file. Next, does your PC boot from CD. Some people turn that off or place it after the hard drive so they can leave a CD in and still boot. check BIOS. Third - if you have more than one CD drive then try the other one. cheers, Mark On 4/19/05, Nanayakkara, Pubudu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My PC has Windows installed. I am trying to boot it up with Gentoo boot > CD so I can install gentoo on it. But it is failing to read the boot CD. > > What could be the problem? > > Cheers, > Pubudu. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
Change the order of the boot devices in your BIOS. You might make sure that you can actually see the CD from Winblows so that you know it is readable. If this is your problem then you might want to try a distro that is geared more towards new Linux users. On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:12 +1000, Nanayakkara, Pubudu wrote: > My PC has Windows installed. I am trying to boot it up with Gentoo boot > CD so I can install gentoo on it. But it is failing to read the boot CD. > > What could be the problem? > > Cheers, > Pubudu. > -- Tres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
> >On my 3 1394 drives I get about 18MB/S, 24MB/S and 24MB/S. The 18MB/S > >drive is the oldest (and smallest at 40GB) of the three. > > > > > That sounds very slow. I get 36,7MB/s (hdparm -t /dev/hda) on the > harddisk in my laptop from last year (1400MB/s with hdparm -T /dev/hda). > Newer stationary disks are probably faster. Is it 1394 that makes it > that slow or it it just low rotation frequency? > -- 1394 is not slow - Linux-1394 is slow. It's a bit of a technical discussion probably better had off line if you're really interested but 1394 itself is pretty fast, although not as fast as an internal EIDE drive or SATA. You do pay a bit for having the flexibility of hotplugging and portability. 1394a should run at about 40MB, and does under Windows. The reason it's not fast under Linux is well nderstood (as I said, I can make it go fast for a few minutes or hours) but there are no developers actively doing anything to take care of this at this time, nor are they apparently scheduling time. Any wanna-be 1394 driver developers who'd be interested in looking into bus optimization please get in contact. It's would make lots of us user types really happy. ;-) Cheers, Mark - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Don't read the boot CD
My PC has Windows installed. I am trying to boot it up with Gentoo boot CD so I can install gentoo on it. But it is failing to read the boot CD. What could be the problem? Cheers, Pubudu. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Mark Knecht wrote: >On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>If/when you do try this, please report the results. I am using USB2.0 >>disks for my backups right now, but my bandwidth is limited to 20MB/sec >>total. Since one of the disks I backup is also a USB2.0 disk, my >>effective bandwidth is about 10MB/sec for much of my backup (transfer >>from USB2.0 disk to memory, memory to other USB disk). >> >>I also have a 1394 port that I am not using for anything right now, and >>I know that if I moved one or the other to that bus, I could get some >>more speed. But I am not sure which one to move, because I don't know >>whether it is faster or slower than the 20MB/sec maximum that I get now. >> >> > >On my 3 1394 drives I get about 18MB/S, 24MB/S and 24MB/S. The 18MB/S >drive is the oldest (and smallest at 40GB) of the three. > > That sounds very slow. I get 36,7MB/s (hdparm -t /dev/hda) on the harddisk in my laptop from last year (1400MB/s with hdparm -T /dev/hda). Newer stationary disks are probably faster. Is it 1394 that makes it that slow or it it just low rotation frequency? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DNS resolution not working with DHCP (RESOLVED)
A. Khattri wrote: > 1. Can you ping that name server? Yes. > 2. What is /etc/nsswitch.conf Via another post, I'm guessing you're looking for the 'hosts' line, which is 'hosts: files dns' > 3. Check you dont have a firewall blocking UDP 53. Not sure how to test that. But read on... > If you have bind-tools installed, you can run queries directly and see > what the server sends back. Im testing that name server from one of my > servers in New York - it works fine from here: > > # dig @168.95.1.1 www.utk.edu Man, you guys are the best! (All of you who posted.) I installed bind-tools, and the same command gave me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gabriel $ dig @216.81.40.41 www.utk.edu ;; reply from unexpected source: 206.169.213.252#53, expected 216.81.40.41#53 ;; reply from unexpected source: 209.246.139.252#53, expected 216.81.40.41#53 ;; reply from unexpected source: 206.169.213.252#53, expected 216.81.40.41#53 ;; reply from unexpected source: 209.246.139.252#53, expected 216.81.40.41#53 ; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> @216.81.40.41 www.utk.edu ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached [EMAIL PROTECTED] gabriel $ So I think to myself... let's try 206.169.213.252 and 209.246.139.252. Looks like a firewall trying to be the DNS. So I added them to the top of /etc/resolv.conf, and the problem cleared right up. You guys are great! For posterity, here's the working /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver 206.169.213.252 nameserver 209.246.139.252 nameserver 168.95.1.1 Peace, Gabriel -- G a b r i e l M . B e d d i n g f i e l d -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System time drift problem
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 15:27 +0200, Frédéric Grosshans wrote: > Le mardi 19 avril 2005 à 09:09 +0930, Iain Buchanan a écrit : > > > > > are you sure this doesn't answer your question? It solved my system > > clock drift (which was about 30 minutes a day, but hw clock was ok). I > > know adjtime is used to correct inaccurate hwclocks, but it can get > > stuffed. post your /etc/adjtime and see what it says... > > I've already played with it / deleted it and it doesn't seem to change > anything. My current /etc/adjtime is > > 0.00 1113497480 0.00 > 1113497480 > LOCAL > > and didn't prevent any drift > -- > Frédéric Grosshans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am having the same problem here too. I still haven't sorted out the cause, but judging from the number of people having this problem recently, I would say that some library/program (or maybe config file?) was changed recently to cause this. All I know is, I only started having this problem recently after an update. Up until then, my clock stayed fairly accurate. Just for the record, here is my /etc/adjtime: 0.00 1112675669 0.00 1112675669 LOCAL Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ATAPI burning doesn't work
> From your dmesg output, it looks like you have some kind of hardware > problem. Have you double checked that your cabling and hardware > configuration is good? Some things to check: > > 1. That the burner is jumpered correctly for 'master'. Done/ > 2. The IDE cable is not damaged (you might just want to replace it with > a spare, if you have one). Replaced it. > 3. The IDE cable is not more than 18" long. I think this one is really > really really critical. See above. > 4. If you have another device on the same channel, make sure it is > configured as a slave. Done. > 5. If 4 is true and the other device is a HD, the HD should be hdc and > the burner hdd. And an 80-conductor cable would be required in this case > I think. > > Your dmesg output didn't show the IDE device configuration messages from > when the kernel booted..too many IDE errors. Maybe you can reboot and > post a basic dmesg output? http://phpfi.com/58626 But of course. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --update world aftermath...
Ah, 'etc-update'! I knew there was some tool to semi-automate the process, but I can never remember the name. The emerge warning always directs me to consult 'emerge --help config' for more information, but this omits any mention of anything other than manual searching and updating.. Perhaps it would be better if the emerge warning directed people to consult 'man etc-update' instead, with the content of of 'emerge --help config' incorporated into that entry. The other thing that I would quite like to see is some way to identify the package that generated the update file. Maybe encoded into the '._cfg..' filename, or logged in a file somewhere. Sometimes it is not obvious where to look if more information is needed to decide if an update is necessary.. Or is this information available somewhere and I just havn't found it??? Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'll discard the alsa update file. Regards, DigbyT On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:08:50PM -0500, Scott Jones wrote: > Digby, > > Etc-update always wants to replace files that are different from the > standard files (baseline files). The secret is to remember which files you > changed and not let it replace them. So, if you want your alsa to keep > working do not let it modify your already-modified files. Also watch out for > it to want to change /etc/fstab, this is a quite common rookie mistake. > > Good Luck, > > Scott Jones > > On 4/19/05, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My first 'update world' seems to have complete sucessfully, having > > overcome the mozilla sensitifity to environment settings and the > > mysterious > > file size discrepency of my RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm > > file... > > > > That just left the protected directory file updates, all of which > > seemed straight forward except for an update that was provided > > for /etc/modules.d/alsa as follows: > > diff alsa ._cfg_alsa > > 17d16 > > < alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 > > 21d19 > > < alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > > > > It looks to me like that would just remove my customization for > > the local hardware, which I would expect would have stopped my > > sound card from working > > > > Or has there been some change that makes that configuration > > information obsolete? > > > > Is it safe/wise to decide to discard one of the update files > > like this? > > > > Regards, > > DigbyT > > -- > > Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.digbyt.com > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dependency Question
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 11:57 am, James Colby wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I apologize if this has been covered before, but I have not been able > to find an answer through searching. > > My question, when I do an emerge -p --deep --update world emerge tells > me that it wants to install kde-base and kde-libs for version 3.3.2. > I have upgraded my KDE to version 3.4 and have uninstalled all the KDE > 3.3 packages. I assume that emerge wants to install those packages > because I have a package installed that depends on them. Is there a > command that I can run to find out which package that is? > > Thanks everyone, > James You installed something that depends on kde 3.3.2. What you could do is, run "revdep-rebuild -p" it'll show you what you want to know. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:04pm up 11 days, 4:11, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another emerge oddity.. update
Sorry - that was a typo. Typing 'bugzilla' must have made me think back to my earlier problem with mozlla :-/ It was actually 'realplayer' that I searched on, and which produced the five matches when I selected the 'bugs' link I just tried it again, and all it gives me are ID's 6720, 79555, 86511, 87118 and 89045.. This is the URL that the link invokes: http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=&short_desc_type=allwords&short_desc=realplayer&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED It looks like the problem was that checking for known problems this way doesn't find but reports with a RESOLVED status, and in this case RESOLVED is a little misleading in that a simple 'emerge --update' wont fix it without manual intervention according to the instructions in the problem entry. Moral of the story seems to be to search for ALL bugs from the mozilla page rather than relying on the bugs link in the package database. Regards, DigbyT On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 12:18:04AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:21 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > > I did check the bugzilla (by searching for mozilla in the package > > database and then invoking the 'bugs' link) but none of the > > five items listed seemed to refer to 10.0.3.. > > Why 'mozilla' when the error was with RealPlayer? Searching for > RealPlayer brings it up, bug no. 87198. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > "Bother" said Pooh when C4 postponed B5 -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > >I need to learn the RAID levels, but what I mean is I think what's > >called mirroring. > > > > Yep, thats RAID1. Forgive me, I've been married to my laptop for too > long, and I forget that 'normal' computers can have multiple 1394/USB > controllers! In that configuration, yes, you should be able to get some > decent bandwidth. > > If/when you do try this, please report the results. I am using USB2.0 > disks for my backups right now, but my bandwidth is limited to 20MB/sec > total. Since one of the disks I backup is also a USB2.0 disk, my > effective bandwidth is about 10MB/sec for much of my backup (transfer > from USB2.0 disk to memory, memory to other USB disk). > > I also have a 1394 port that I am not using for anything right now, and > I know that if I moved one or the other to that bus, I could get some > more speed. But I am not sure which one to move, because I don't know > whether it is faster or slower than the 20MB/sec maximum that I get now. On my 3 1394 drives I get about 18MB/S, 24MB/S and 24MB/S. The 18MB/S drive is the oldest (and smallest at 40GB) of the three. 1394 bandwidth is currently limited by lack of gap count optimization in the drivers. Just playing around I've been able to get about 35MB/S from one of my drives but the problem is the settings won't tick and it eventually drops back down to the numbers above. If you were interested in trying it there is a small programm called 1394commander that has a few commands that allow setting gap count and getting faster settings, at least until a 1394 bus reset comes along. However for doing backups it may be worth it. > > >Two or more drives with identical data for > >redundancy. In my case I have three 1394 controllers in the same > >machine. I was considering putting identical drives on each cable in > >parallel so the 1394 bandwidth is essentically trippled and the same > >data is written and read to all drives. Seems to me the only overhead > >is then 3x disk bandwidth across the PCI bus as well as the > >verification that all 3 drives return the same data. > > > > > > I am pretty sure that when reading data, the kernel's software RAID > treats the the array the same as RAID0..that is it would read all 3 > disks simultaneously, but different blocks from each, to maximize > throughput. If the array is 'clean', and all 3 disks contain the same > data, there is no point in reading the same data from all 3 drives. OK, so I'll bite. If you don't actually read all three disks then how do you know they all contain the same data? I'm concerned that there could be a time when data is written and it's corrupted due to problems in the 1394 sub system. I assume for now that these corruptions are random and do not happen on all three cables. How do I guard against that? I know the drives themselves are good as I've used them all under Windows for quite a long time with no lost data ever. (Yea FAT32!) ;-) However I have lost data once already under Linux using ext3. The system said it was moving a 1GB file, however it finsihed with no error messages in 1 second and while there was a file icon on the target drive the system said the file was corrupted and couldn't read it. > > Write performance suffers slightly with RAID1, because you basically > have to wait for the slowest disk. Even if they are all the same speed, > there is always one that lags a few ms because the platters are not > synchronized. Makes sense. > > For the filesystem, I say choose your favorite. Just remember that 3 > copies of the same mistake doesn't help you much...you still need backups! Yep! Always. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another emerge oddity.. update
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:56:21 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > I did check the bugzilla (by searching for mozilla in the package > database and then invoking the 'bugs' link) but none of the > five items listed seemed to refer to 10.0.3.. Why 'mozilla' when the error was with RealPlayer? Searching for RealPlayer brings it up, bug no. 87198. -- Neil Bothwick "Bother" said Pooh when C4 postponed B5 pgp07NbBSOv2O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] --update world aftermath...
Digby, Etc-update always wants to replace files that are different from the standard files (baseline files). The secret is to remember which files you changed and not let it replace them. So, if you want your alsa to keep working do not let it modify your already-modified files. Also watch out for it to want to change /etc/fstab, this is a quite common rookie mistake. Good Luck, Scott JonesOn 4/19/05, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My first 'update world' seems to have complete sucessfully, havingovercome the mozilla sensitifity to environment settings and the mysteriousfile size discrepency of my RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpmfile... That just left the protected directory file updates, all of whichseemed straight forward except for an update that was providedfor /etc/modules.d/alsa as follows:diff alsa ._cfg_alsa17d16 < alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k121d19< alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0It looks to me like that would just remove my customization forthe local hardware, which I would expect would have stopped my sound card from workingOr has there been some change that makes that configurationinformation obsolete?Is it safe/wise to decide to discard one of the update fileslike this?Regards, DigbyT--Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.digbyt.com--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sudoers file
HI, I'm trying to add a user to my /etc/sudoers file that will enable them to play doom3 with elevated priorities but NOT elevated privileges. I want to cut down on the choppiness in the game play for the user so I want them to start doom3 with the command: "sudo nice -n -5 /usr/games/bin/doom3 +set " Two issues: 1) I do NOT want doom3 to run as root. and 2) I know that nice can execute ANY program so I want to make sure that the only command that can follow "nice -n -5" is doom3 and not bash (or anything else). The line in my /etc/sudoers file is: user_name ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/nice -n -? /usr/games/bin/doom3 *, \ !/bin/nice * Without the part following the comma I can start doom3 and any other command (Bad Thing (tm)) but doom3 runs as root. With it I cannot run doom3. I've tried many permutations and it is starting to look like I'm going to have to write a small C program that runs SUID, increases its priority, drops its privileges and then starts doom3. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks -- Tres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound card issue
> Can anyone tell me whats wrong here? reading on the net > apparantly i just load the module and it should work, whats > gone wrong? I'd recommend to emerge alsa-utils. Then try to run alsaconf. Sound OK? Then add ALSA to your preferred default runlevel. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 kernel and wlan-ng
> > daemon.log says: > > Apr 18 17:18:38 rygel modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting prism2_pci > > (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r6cb1/linux-wlan-ng/prism2_pci.ko): No such > > device > > > > > > and lspci says: > > :00:12.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan > > chipset (rev 01) > > > > > > I'm at a loss, it seems to find the hardware, but fail to initialize. Any > > suggestions? > > Are any of the orinoco drivers loaded? > no, I didn't even build them. -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another emerge oddity.. update
Hi Neil, Thanks for the explanation. It is always comforting to know that there is a rational explanation for things not working properly. I did check the bugzilla (by searching for mozilla in the package database and then invoking the 'bugs' link) but none of the five items listed seemed to refer to 10.0.3.. Was there something else I should have done to find a relevent bug report? Do you have a bug # for the report you are referring to? Regards, DigbyT On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 10:14:03PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:12 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > > Just to answer my own question here, it seems that removing the > > archive file > > /usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm > > and letting emerge download it again got me back on track... > > > > Still not sure how I ended up with a bad rpm file that stopped > > my update. > > The ebuild originally downloaded the wrong file, although it had the same > name. Syncing got you the corrected ebuild, but as a file of the correct > name was already in $DISTDIR, it didn't try to download the correct one. > Removing the incorrect file after a sync fixed it for you. > > See bugzilla. > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Rugged: Too heavy to lift. -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Mark Knecht wrote: >I need to learn the RAID levels, but what I mean is I think what's >called mirroring. > Yep, thats RAID1. Forgive me, I've been married to my laptop for too long, and I forget that 'normal' computers can have multiple 1394/USB controllers! In that configuration, yes, you should be able to get some decent bandwidth. If/when you do try this, please report the results. I am using USB2.0 disks for my backups right now, but my bandwidth is limited to 20MB/sec total. Since one of the disks I backup is also a USB2.0 disk, my effective bandwidth is about 10MB/sec for much of my backup (transfer from USB2.0 disk to memory, memory to other USB disk). I also have a 1394 port that I am not using for anything right now, and I know that if I moved one or the other to that bus, I could get some more speed. But I am not sure which one to move, because I don't know whether it is faster or slower than the 20MB/sec maximum that I get now. >Two or more drives with identical data for >redundancy. In my case I have three 1394 controllers in the same >machine. I was considering putting identical drives on each cable in >parallel so the 1394 bandwidth is essentically trippled and the same >data is written and read to all drives. Seems to me the only overhead >is then 3x disk bandwidth across the PCI bus as well as the >verification that all 3 drives return the same data. > > I am pretty sure that when reading data, the kernel's software RAID treats the the array the same as RAID0..that is it would read all 3 disks simultaneously, but different blocks from each, to maximize throughput. If the array is 'clean', and all 3 disks contain the same data, there is no point in reading the same data from all 3 drives. Write performance suffers slightly with RAID1, because you basically have to wait for the slowest disk. Even if they are all the same speed, there is always one that lags a few ms because the platters are not synchronized. For the filesystem, I say choose your favorite. Just remember that 3 copies of the same mistake doesn't help you much...you still need backups! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update net.wlan0?
> The reason I used eth0 (which AFAIK is created by baselayout) is that > this is the way older versions of baselayout do it. The latest versions > put everything into net.lo and link net.eth0 to it (so the above still > works) but linking to net.lo will break on older baselayouts. As I use > ~arch everywhere, I'm not sure what the current stable baselayout uses, > so I erred on the side of caution. > On my one machien that isn't ~arch, net.eth0 isn't a link to net.lo and net.lo wouldn't work, so your erring on the side of caution was a good move. I guess the more complete solution is to use net.eth0 if you are on a stable system and net.lo if you are running ~arch. Nick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3B compilation error
Christoph Gysin wrote: Al Bayrouni wrote: When I tried to install k3b, I had this error: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [lavplay] Erreur 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mjpegtools-1.6.2-r3/work/mjpegtools-1.6.2/lavtools' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mjpegtools-1.6.2-r3/work/mjpegtools-1.6.2' make: *** [all] Erreur 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/mjpegtools-1.6.2-r3 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 111, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. The "topmost build error" is the *first* error message in your output. You posted everything *after* the topmost build error :-( Thank you for your help. Nobody can help you if you don't give enough information. But before posting the complete ouput, try searching bugzilla for mjpegtools-1.6.2-r3, you'll find the solution to your problem, along with the status of this already known bug. Christoph There is a bug while compiling media-video/mjpegtools. It is referenced in bugzilla.gentoo.org as NEW. k3b depends on mjpegtools so k3b emerge fails. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:22:37 -0700 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Seems to me the only overhead | is then 3x disk bandwidth across the PCI bus as well as the | verification that all 3 drives return the same data. That's not what happens. When you're doing reads, only one of the drives is read from per block, not all three. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpqDyS9mQDSv.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Problems stopping & ejecting audio cds
When playing an audio CD, if I select 'Stop', the music stops for a few seconds and then restarts (sometimes with garbled sound). When I select 'Eject', the sound stops and starts several times before ejecting. I have tried a couple of CD player programs with the same result. Can't find anything relevant using Google. Anyone got any ideas where the problem might lie please? -- Paul pgpX0GmSJqZxf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > >Hi, > > Is there anything that can be said about which FS might be more > >reliable if using some form of RAID? I don't know much about RAID yet > >but I'm starting to consider it for some of my setup here. Disks are > >getting very cheap. 1394/USB2.0 hot plugable devices sound good to me. > >I use 1394 already for audio recording under Linux. > > > > So, what about RAID. About even with all FS's? > > > > > > AFAICT, yes. I use software RAID0 on my laptop, previously with XFS, > now with reiserfs. No ill effects to be reported. > > Are you meaning to use something like RAID1 with the USB/1394 disks? > RAID0 seems kind of pointless to me in that configuration, because the > bandwidth of the USB2.0/1394 bus will really be your limiting factor > with any typical hard disk today. > I need to learn the RAID levels, but what I mean is I think what's called mirroring. Two or more drives with identical data for redundancy. In my case I have three 1394 controllers in the same machine. I was considering putting identical drives on each cable in parallel so the 1394 bandwidth is essentically trippled and the same data is written and read to all drives. Seems to me the only overhead is then 3x disk bandwidth across the PCI bus as well as the verification that all 3 drives return the same data. Does it matter at all which FS I choose in this configuration. Logic would tell me to choose the FS that's fastest since I have 3 drives for redundancy. However if there is some reason not to use XFS or reiserfs in that configuration then I think that's the basis of my question. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another emerge oddity.. update
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:12 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > Just to answer my own question here, it seems that removing the > archive file > /usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm > and letting emerge download it again got me back on track... > > Still not sure how I ended up with a bad rpm file that stopped > my update. The ebuild originally downloaded the wrong file, although it had the same name. Syncing got you the corrected ebuild, but as a file of the correct name was already in $DISTDIR, it didn't try to download the correct one. Removing the incorrect file after a sync fixed it for you. See bugzilla. -- Neil Bothwick Rugged: Too heavy to lift. pgpHQae3p3OSU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer problems
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 23:22, Vittorio wrote: > After "emerge --sync" while compiling world with "emerge -uD world" gentoo > stops complaining about mplayer. > Here you are an extract of the log: [snip] > msmpeg4.c:720: error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while > reloading `asm' > make[1]: *** [msmpeg4.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r4/work/MPlayer-1.0pre6a/libavcodec' > make: *** [libavcodec/libavcodec.a] Error 2 > > !!! ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r4 failed. > !!! Function src_compile, Line 509, Exitcode 2 > !!! Failed to build MPlayer! > ... > > What's wrong with it and what shall I do? > Vittorio CFLAGS="-O1" emerge -u mplayer ...got round the problem for me. YMMV. -- Paul Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AIM: Llorraw ICQ: 255235456; MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpjp1EocPxDo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
That was exactly my reasoning behind selecting XFS as the main filesystem for my Laptop (IBM ThinkPad T41p), which I use as my everyday desktop/workstation. Previously, in an IBM ThinkPad A31p I used Reiserfs, and I never had any problems, the thing ran really well, I just wanted to try XFS because a bloke (that seems to know a lot about Linux) told me that it was very good. I guess time will tell... Regards, -AR On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A. Khattri wrote: > > >On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Richard Fish wrote: > > > > > >>power failure better than XFS from this test, but a complete power > >>failure on a laptop is trivially easy to avoid...just don't remove the > >>battery! Heck, one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my laptop is > >> > >> > > > >I suppose batteries never run out in your world view. > > > > > > Don't be silly...of course they do. That's why I run klaptop to monitor > the status of my battery and give me warnings when it is getting low in > the rather frequent event when I forget to plug in the power. My point > wasn't that a laptop will run forever on batteries, it was that the > battery will last a hell of lot longer than it takes "shutdown -h now" > to run. Even if your battery is completely useless otherwise, you > almost always have enough time to save your work and shutdown the system. > > Ok, so one might counter "what if someone isn't monitoring the laptop, > and the battery runs out." The same argument could be made about using > XFS in a data center environment..."you don't want to do that, because > the UPS batteries could die, or the generator could run out of fuel." > > -Richard > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sound card issue
Hi all, I am trying to get gentoo linux working on my laptop, but i am having problems getting the soundcard to work Here is what i have so far: Card Type: cirrus logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio kernel: 2.6.9 laptop: IBM Thinkpad X21 dmesg output (using cs4281 module): cs4281: version v1.13.32 time 23:27:56 Oct 19 2004 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0b:0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ11 cs4281: DLLRDY failed! cs4281: cs4281_hw_init() failed. Skipping part. cs4281: probe()- no device allocated output from lspci -vv: :00:0B.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01) Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 0183 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR-
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
A. Khattri wrote: >On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Richard Fish wrote: > > >>power failure better than XFS from this test, but a complete power >>failure on a laptop is trivially easy to avoid...just don't remove the >>battery! Heck, one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my laptop is >> >> > >I suppose batteries never run out in your world view. > > Don't be silly...of course they do. That's why I run klaptop to monitor the status of my battery and give me warnings when it is getting low in the rather frequent event when I forget to plug in the power. My point wasn't that a laptop will run forever on batteries, it was that the battery will last a hell of lot longer than it takes "shutdown -h now" to run. Even if your battery is completely useless otherwise, you almost always have enough time to save your work and shutdown the system. Ok, so one might counter "what if someone isn't monitoring the laptop, and the battery runs out." The same argument could be made about using XFS in a data center environment..."you don't want to do that, because the UPS batteries could die, or the generator could run out of fuel." -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mplayer problems
After "emerge --sync" while compiling world with "emerge -uD world" gentoo stops complaining about mplayer. Here you are an extract of the log: . cc -I../libvo -I../../libvo -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-PIC -O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=pentium4 -frename-registers -fno-pie -fno-pie -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I.. -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o qpeg.o qpeg.c cc -I../libvo -I../../libvo -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-PIC -O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=pentium4 -frename-registers -fno-pie -fno-pie -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I.. -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o pthread.o pthread.c cc -I../libvo -I../../libvo -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-PIC -O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=pentium4 -frename-registers -fno-pie -fno-pie -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I.. -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o h263.o h263.c cc -I../libvo -I../../libvo -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-PIC -O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=pentium4 -frename-registers -fno-pie -fno-pie -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I.. -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o h261.o h261.c cc -I../libvo -I../../libvo -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-PIC -O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=pentium4 -frename-registers -fno-pie -fno-pie -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -I.. -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o msmpeg4.o msmpeg4.c msmpeg4.c: In function `msmpeg4_pred_dc': msmpeg4.c:720: error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm' make[1]: *** [msmpeg4.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r4/work/MPlayer-1.0pre6a/libavcodec' make: *** [libavcodec/libavcodec.a] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r4 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 509, Exitcode 2 !!! Failed to build MPlayer! ... What's wrong with it and what shall I do? Vittorio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Christoph Gysin wrote: > New products in the store, check it out: > http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=48 Nice hoodie... :-) -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Christoph Gysin wrote: > I assume he just wanted to get a life... Yeah, having a family, kids, will do that... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] --update world aftermath...
My first 'update world' seems to have complete sucessfully, having overcome the mozilla sensitifity to environment settings and the mysterious file size discrepency of my RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm file... That just left the protected directory file updates, all of which seemed straight forward except for an update that was provided for /etc/modules.d/alsa as follows: diff alsa ._cfg_alsa 17d16 < alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 21d19 < alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 It looks to me like that would just remove my customization for the local hardware, which I would expect would have stopped my sound card from working Or has there been some change that makes that configuration information obsolete? Is it safe/wise to decide to discard one of the update files like this? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Richard Fish wrote: > power failure better than XFS from this test, but a complete power > failure on a laptop is trivially easy to avoid...just don't remove the > battery! Heck, one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my laptop is I suppose batteries never run out in your world view. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote: > Better performance with reiserfs3 as well as peace of mind goes against > ext2/3 for me. As I said - YMMV - I have looked at my usage, number and > type of failures for both systems some time back and reiserfs3 came up > tops for me. You need to do the same: run both systems and see what is > best for your environment. I will move to reiserfs4 when there is some > consensus it it is getting stable as it has some nice features I like, > as well as the performance potential. Performance is not the only metric to use when looking at an FS. Example: AFAIK, ReiserFS does not support quotas - so for my shared web server it is useless. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS resolution not working with DHCP
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > While the network connection works fine (I can ping any valid IP, such as my > email server, my home network, etc). However, DNS name resolution is not > working. Some things to check: 1. Can you ping that name server? 2. What is /etc/nsswitch.conf 3. Check you dont have a firewall blocking UDP 53. If you have bind-tools installed, you can run queries directly and see what the server sends back. Im testing that name server from one of my servers in New York - it works fine from here: # dig @168.95.1.1 www.utk.edu ; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> @168.95.1.1 www.utk.edu ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51241 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.utk.edu. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.utk.edu.60 IN CNAME oscar.ws.utk.edu. oscar.ws.utk.edu. 28800 IN A 160.36.178.162 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ws.utk.edu. 28800 IN NS ns0.utk.edu. ws.utk.edu. 28800 IN NS ns1.utk.edu. ws.utk.edu. 28800 IN NS ns2.utk.edu. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns0.utk.edu.28800 IN A 160.36.0.66 ns1.utk.edu.28800 IN A 160.36.128.66 ns2.utk.edu.28800 IN A 160.36.196.66 ;; Query time: 711 msec ;; SERVER: 168.95.1.1#53(168.95.1.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 19 16:06:09 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 170 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frame buffers
Mark Knecht wrote: >Thanks Richard. So reading between the lines, frame buffers are ways >of doing graphics when I'm not in X? > That basically it. >Sort of like older DOS type >graphics programs. It's talking to the hardware VGA and writing >directly into the card's memory? > > Well, the closest analogy to that in today's world would probably be DRI/DRM. But yeah, you've got the general idea. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frame buffers
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: > Thanks Richard. So reading between the lines, frame buffers are ways > of doing graphics when I'm not in X? Sort of like older DOS type > graphics programs. It's talking to the hardware VGA and writing > directly into the card's memory? Yep. (Great for running kiosk mode stuff like MAME off the console ;-) -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install corrupted after first reboot.
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Mal Herring wrote: > Now after booting the 2005.0 cd and mounting /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 it would > seem that I have only a single directory of which is lost+found. > > Have I just lost this mornings work and is it worth re-installing ? > What could have caused this to happen and would the same thing happen > again ? > > Of all the Gentoo systems I have built and rebuilt - this is the first > time I have seen this ! :( If you have hardware RAID, then normally you would configure the arrays in the RAID controller BIOS - then the kernel will see each array as a single drive. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install corrupted after first reboot.
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Mal Herring wrote: > re-installed using a Stage3 and success... (had to use Stage3 for > reasons of time...) > > being a little tired after going @ it all day - anyone know what support > is needed for a DL380G4 network interface ? > > are they intel cards ? # emerge pciutils # lspci -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Mark Knecht wrote: >Hi, > Is there anything that can be said about which FS might be more >reliable if using some form of RAID? I don't know much about RAID yet >but I'm starting to consider it for some of my setup here. Disks are >getting very cheap. 1394/USB2.0 hot plugable devices sound good to me. >I use 1394 already for audio recording under Linux. > > So, what about RAID. About even with all FS's? > > AFAICT, yes. I use software RAID0 on my laptop, previously with XFS, now with reiserfs. No ill effects to be reported. Are you meaning to use something like RAID1 with the USB/1394 disks? RAID0 seems kind of pointless to me in that configuration, because the bandwidth of the USB2.0/1394 bus will really be your limiting factor with any typical hard disk today. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another emerge oddity.. update
Just to answer my own question here, it seems that removing the archive file /usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm and letting emerge download it again got me back on track... Still not sure how I ended up with a bad rpm file that stopped my update. It wasn't a disk space problem because the bad file (now in /tmp) was larger than the replacement: 6679649 Apr 19 20:28 /tmp/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm 6642448 Apr 19 20:29 /usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm I wonder where the extra 37201 bytes came from Regards, DigbyT On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 08:17:16PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > Still trying to get an 'emerge --update world' to complete... > > Now I am getting the following error: > !!! Digest verification Failed: > !!!/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm > !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size > > I tried unmerging and then re-emergeing realplayer, and doing > a new --sync, but I get getting this error. > > Can anyone tell me where the recorded size is that is conflicting, > and how the discrepency can arise? > > Is there a simple way to correct this? > -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] another emerge oddity...
Still trying to get an 'emerge --update world' to complete... Now I am getting the following error: !!! Digest verification Failed: !!!/usr/portage/distfiles/RealPlayer-10.0.3.748-20050223.i586.rpm !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size I tried unmerging and then re-emergeing realplayer, and doing a new --sync, but I get getting this error. Can anyone tell me where the recorded size is that is conflicting, and how the discrepency can arise? Is there a simple way to correct this? Thanks, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax & answerphone/voicemail server...
Stroller wrote: I'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Stroller 'Scuse me, but I don't think you can (tm) that -- Jerry Pournelle was using it like back in the 1970's... rgh. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install corrupted after first reboot.
Mal Herring wrote: >Have I just lost this mornings work and is it worth re-installing ? >What could have caused this to happen and would the same thing happen >again ? > > Sounds like it is gone. You should double check and make sure you don't have any form of write caching enabled for the disk or the raid controller. That can be bad... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound card issue
Ognjen Bezanov wrote: >ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0b:0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ11 >cs4281: DLLRDY failed! >cs4281: cs4281_hw_init() failed. Skipping part. >cs4281: probe()- no device allocated > > Hmm, ACPI can be problematic sometimes. Try setting the kernel boot parameters "apm=off acpi=off noapic". It might not make any difference, but it is worth a shot. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frame buffers
On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > >Hi, > > What are they? What do they help? How much? > > > > How is this related to the USE flag directfb? > > > > I'm building a machine that isintended to record a lot of video > >using MythTV. The video probably won't be viewed directly on this > >machine but if it is I'd like the performance to be good. > > > > Is this somthing that would help significantly? > > > > > > Probably not. Generally, framebuffers are used for graphics > consoles...console in the sense of those first 6 ttys that normally do > nothing but display "login:". Packages like bootsplash depend on > framebuffer graphics, and some GUI applications can also use > framebuffers directly, instead of X, which is mostly useful on embedded > or kiosk systems where memory can be very tight, and X can be overkill. > > Some X drivers can use a merged framebuffer with the kernel, which I > _think_ saves you a bit of memory and not much else. At least, I get no > noticable performance difference with the 'radeon' driver whether I set > the UseFBDev option or not. The only benefit to UseFBDev I have found > is that it stops VMWare from complaining when I try to make a > low-resolution virtual machine appear full screen. > > For video playback, I think your best bet is to just stay in X. > > -Richard > -- Thanks Richard. So reading between the lines, frame buffers are ways of doing graphics when I'm not in X? Sort of like older DOS type graphics programs. It's talking to the hardware VGA and writing directly into the card's memory? Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] frame buffers
Mark Knecht wrote: >Hi, > What are they? What do they help? How much? > > How is this related to the USE flag directfb? > > I'm building a machine that isintended to record a lot of video >using MythTV. The video probably won't be viewed directly on this >machine but if it is I'd like the performance to be good. > > Is this somthing that would help significantly? > > Probably not. Generally, framebuffers are used for graphics consoles...console in the sense of those first 6 ttys that normally do nothing but display "login:". Packages like bootsplash depend on framebuffer graphics, and some GUI applications can also use framebuffers directly, instead of X, which is mostly useful on embedded or kiosk systems where memory can be very tight, and X can be overkill. Some X drivers can use a merged framebuffer with the kernel, which I _think_ saves you a bit of memory and not much else. At least, I get no noticable performance difference with the 'radeon' driver whether I set the UseFBDev option or not. The only benefit to UseFBDev I have found is that it stops VMWare from complaining when I try to make a low-resolution virtual machine appear full screen. For video playback, I think your best bet is to just stay in X. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install corrupted after first reboot.
re-installed using a Stage3 and success... (had to use Stage3 for reasons of time...) being a little tired after going @ it all day - anyone know what support is needed for a DL380G4 network interface ? are they intel cards ? thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS resolution not working with DHCP
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: >I'm travelling on business and trying to use the hotel-supplied internet. I'm >using a Telkonet Bridge through the building's wiring. (Laptop -> Cat-5 >cable -> Telkonet -> building wiring.) My laptop is an up-to-date Gentoo, >2.6 kernel, IBM Thinkpad R51. > >DHCP works to give me an IP address, and sets the default >gateway. /etc/resolv.conf gets automatically changed to one line: > >nameserver 168.95.1.1 > > A few things to check: First, can you ping the nameserver's IP address?? Second, do you have 'dns' on the "hosts:" line in /etc/nsswitch.conf. If not, your system will not use DNS for host name resolution. Finally, can you do a "host www.utk.edu 198.95.1.1". This only works if you have emerged bind-tools... With the connection at my hotel, even though it is free, I still have to login via a web site before I can use it. I just bring up firefox, which tries to access my home page, but it gets the login page instead. Is there something similar going on at your hotel?? Maybe you have to login before you can get access to the DNS server? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On 4/19/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heinz Sporn wrote: > > >I also don't quite understand the suggestion to ignore "arguments about > >data corruption". These weren't arguments but simple facts. A lot of > >posters here experienced various troubles with almost every FS there is. > > > >That doesn't proof that any of the discussed filesystems is BAD - but it > >does proof that - excuse my english - shit happens and you might lose > >data regardless of the FS you went for. A 100% bulletproof FS simply > >seem not to exist. > > > > > > That was *exactly* my point. Even though you can find examples of > corruption with all filesystems, it is still a fairly rare occurrence in > the real world, at least with the ones we have been discussing. ( To be > precise, I should have said 'filesystem corruption', not data > corruptionanything that just journals meta-data has a fair chance of > losing/corrupting some data in a crash...it is the filesystem structures > that journaling is meant to protect in that case). > > So, since (paraphrasing your statement above), individual instances of > filesystem corruption should not be proof of a poor filesystem design, > then arguments to avoid a particular filesystem based solely on an > instance of corruption should be ignored. > Hi, Is there anything that can be said about which FS might be more reliable if using some form of RAID? I don't know much about RAID yet but I'm starting to consider it for some of my setup here. Disks are getting very cheap. 1394/USB2.0 hot plugable devices sound good to me. I use 1394 already for audio recording under Linux. So, what about RAID. About even with all FS's? thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Heinz Sporn wrote: >I also don't quite understand the suggestion to ignore "arguments about >data corruption". These weren't arguments but simple facts. A lot of >posters here experienced various troubles with almost every FS there is. > >That doesn't proof that any of the discussed filesystems is BAD - but it >does proof that - excuse my english - shit happens and you might lose >data regardless of the FS you went for. A 100% bulletproof FS simply >seem not to exist. > > That was *exactly* my point. Even though you can find examples of corruption with all filesystems, it is still a fairly rare occurrence in the real world, at least with the ones we have been discussing. ( To be precise, I should have said 'filesystem corruption', not data corruptionanything that just journals meta-data has a fair chance of losing/corrupting some data in a crash...it is the filesystem structures that journaling is meant to protect in that case). So, since (paraphrasing your statement above), individual instances of filesystem corruption should not be proof of a poor filesystem design, then arguments to avoid a particular filesystem based solely on an instance of corruption should be ignored. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update failure...
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:11:36 +0100 Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Perhaps part of the emerge restricted environment should involve | clearing the environment settings of everything that isn't | explicitly recognized. It would probably place a bit much of a | burden on package builders to expect them to be able to deal | with arbitrary environment settings. That's kinda the plan. The difficulty is in the "explicitly recognised" list. Prod Brian about it if you want details. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpWcS6rLyAL8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update failure...
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:07:36PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:48:55 +0100 Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | An 'export HISTFILE=""' seemed to work around it, but I am not sure if > | this should be reported as an 'emerge' bug or a 'mozilla' package bug. > | > | Is there any reason why I should not run emerge after logging in as > | myself and then 'su'ing? Are there guidelines on acceptable > | environment settings that should be present when doing an emerge which > | I have overlooked? > > Hrm, I'd say that this isn't a bug, personally. Although it is another > good example of why we need that restricted environment stuff that our > portage people (I think it was Brian?) were thinking about... well - if it stopped it working I wouldn't call it a feature ;) I quite agree about the restricted environment. On other systems where I manage open source software installation manually, I always create a diretory in /usr/local/src for the tarball, and then su to a dedicated user (local) to build and install. Only the occasional priveledged application (like sudo) needs to be installed as root, and for that I do a 'make -n install' and execute the commands manually. Perhaps part of the emerge restricted environment should involve clearing the environment settings of everything that isn't explicitly recognized. It would probably place a bit much of a burden on package builders to expect them to be able to deal with arbitrary environment settings. Quite appart from security issues, it certainly seems important that an operation which rebuilds a significant portion of the system should have reproducible results that don't depend on the details of the personal environment of the person that runs it. I suppose at least if an environment variable is going to have an unexpected side effect on an 'update world', having the build fail is preferable to silently producing an flawed system. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:16:24 +0200 Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >| You could file a bug on bugzilla: >| "Enhancement: I'd like to have some gentoo Sweaters and mousepads in >| the store" > >No no no no no. Bugzilla is for Gentoo things. > > This comment wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I thought thats what ";-)" is for. PS: New products in the store, check it out: http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=48 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netselect
What I had to do was :: mirrorselect -i -o > (the '-i' in there makes an interactive screen where you get to select servers yourself) choose the servers I wanted, and then find all the IPv6 stuff and remove it, mostly by seeing something about ipv6 somewhere in the names themselves. Then I re-ordered the list to put known &/or nearby servers first in the list. Then I inserted the resulting list in place of the "GENTOO_MIRRORS" line in make.conf. Worked like a charm, after I sweated like a bum to choose servers & cleanup the ipv6 stuff. rgh. A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Marten Karl wrote: The same counts for my installation. The statement in the installation documentation (the no interactive version of mirrorselect usage) has every time brought my make.conf to unusable state. It shouldn't but what I do is run mirrorselect WITHOUT the redirect (just in case something goes wrong) - I then cut and paste the output into make.conf (I do installs through ssh under screen so I can cut & paste easily). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file permission setting problem
Genius. rgh. YoYo Siska wrote: Qiangning Hong wrote: I have a file with special permission requirement. I want user1 and user2 can read/write this file, user3 can read only and others can not access it. How to set the permission bits? No ACL support. undoable with standard acces rights in linux :( you could create a group for user1 and user2 (say group12), then set the owner to user3, but he as an owner can change the permissions to enable write... if you can afford to create a special directory and put the file under it, you can do it in this way: create a directory with owner root, group set to a group that contains all 3 users and the rights set to 750 (read and execute for group, no execute for others) only users 1,2,3 (and root ;) can acces anything under this directory now create the file under this directory, owner root, group: a group conataining only user 1&2, rights 664 (read&write for group, read for others -- this is for user3, nobody else is able to get to this file) this way you need 2 additional groups, one for users 1,2,3 other for users 1,2 you could use only the second group and have user3 as the owner of the directory, but than he would be able to delete the dir you can still get around this by creating 2 directories, one for group12, second for user3, hardlink the file into both directories, if user3 deletes his dir, he just looses the acces to the file, but the file is not lost... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dependency Question
Trey Gruel wrote: On 4/19/05, James Colby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My question, when I do an emerge -p --deep --update world emerge tells me that it wants to install kde-base and kde-libs for version 3.3.2. I have upgraded my KDE to version 3.4 and have uninstalled all the KDE 3.3 packages. I assume that emerge wants to install those packages because I have a package installed that depends on them. Is there a command that I can run to find out which package that is? if you make that 'emerge -pt --deep --update' it will show you a 'tree' view that shows what depends on what. Have you considered the fact, that KDE 3.4 is still marked as "testing" in portage and that 3.3.2 is "stable"? HTH, Mrugesh Karnik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) unmerging kde-3.3
< Neil Bothwick Does someone know the cheats for WindowsXP? > ( Yes, but they don't work, it has too many bugs! ;) ) rgh. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-laptop list still working?
Hi There! -- It got here. ( ;) ) rgh. Rob wrote: I haven't gotten any posts in a long time. Trying to post myself doesn't seem to work either. But I get no error messages. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update failure...
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:48:55 +0100 Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | An 'export HISTFILE=""' seemed to work around it, but I am not sure if | this should be reported as an 'emerge' bug or a 'mozilla' package bug. | | Is there any reason why I should not run emerge after logging in as | myself and then 'su'ing? Are there guidelines on acceptable | environment settings that should be present when doing an emerge which | I have overlooked? Hrm, I'd say that this isn't a bug, personally. Although it is another good example of why we need that restricted environment stuff that our portage people (I think it was Brian?) were thinking about... -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgprPSHZh6CfH.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge --update failure...
Anyone have any clues as to why my 'emerge --update world' seems to fail on mozilla with the following output: >>> Unpacking ipc-1.1.2.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.7.7/work >>> Unpacking enigmail-0.91.0.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.7.7/work * Applying mozilla-stackgrowth.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying mozilla-1.3-fix-RAW-target.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying mozilla-hppa.patch ...[ ok ] * Applying mozilla-1.7.3-4ft2.patch ... [ ok ] * Patching smime to call perl from /usr/bin... [ ok ] >>> Source unpacked. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-www-client_-_mozilla-1.7.7-15107.log" open_wr: /home2/digbyt/.history I assume that for some reason the mozilla configure balked at the HISTFILE=/home2/digbyt/.history that was left in my environment after I su'd to root. An 'export HISTFILE=""' seemed to work around it, but I am not sure if this should be reported as an 'emerge' bug or a 'mozilla' package bug. Is there any reason why I should not run emerge after logging in as myself and then 'su'ing? Are there guidelines on acceptable environment settings that should be present when doing an emerge which I have overlooked? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice: emerge --resume
Kurt Guenther wrote: ...is there some other trick I can play? You could do something like this: # ebuild ".ebuild" compile install qmerge Probably it does a ./configure again, but even so, afterwards it continues almost exactly where the emerge-process stopped. Maybe you get some problems with dependencies, but dealing with an emerge of a single package this should work. Sigi -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:34 -0300, Mauro Faccenda wrote: > Maerlyn wrote: > > Hy, > > > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? > > Boot as single user (kernel parameter 'single'). And change it. > > []'s > Mauro Or put boot off of your LiveCD, mount your root partition, chroot to it, and passwd root... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dependency Question
On 4/19/05, James Colby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My question, when I do an emerge -p --deep --update world emerge tells > me that it wants to install kde-base and kde-libs for version 3.3.2. > I have upgraded my KDE to version 3.4 and have uninstalled all the KDE > 3.3 packages. I assume that emerge wants to install those packages > because I have a package installed that depends on them. Is there a > command that I can run to find out which package that is? if you make that 'emerge -pt --deep --update' it will show you a 'tree' view that shows what depends on what. -- trey -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sound card issue
Hi all, I am trying to get gentoo linux working on my laptop, but i am having problems getting the soundcard to work Here is what i have so far: Card Type: cirrus logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio kernel: 2.6.9 laptop: IBM Thinkpad X21 dmesg output (using cs4281 module): cs4281: version v1.13.32 time 23:27:56 Oct 19 2004 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0b:0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ11 cs4281: DLLRDY failed! cs4281: cs4281_hw_init() failed. Skipping part. cs4281: probe()- no device allocated output from lspci -vv: :00:0B.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01) Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 0183 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR-
[gentoo-user] Dependency Question
Hello everyone - I apologize if this has been covered before, but I have not been able to find an answer through searching. My question, when I do an emerge -p --deep --update world emerge tells me that it wants to install kde-base and kde-libs for version 3.3.2. I have upgraded my KDE to version 3.4 and have uninstalled all the KDE 3.3 packages. I assume that emerge wants to install those packages because I have a package installed that depends on them. Is there a command that I can run to find out which package that is? Thanks everyone, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On 4/19/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No no no no no. Bugzilla is for Gentoo things. > Well, then how about vendors.gentoo.org? max -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to skip x11-drm when emerging -e system?
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 15:09, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > Francisco Santiago Capel Torres wrote: > > I have updated my gentoo to kernel 2.6, and after updating glibc > > I have done > > > > emerge -e system > > > > But it is stuck telling me this: > > >>> emerge (1 of 158) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to / > > > > [...] > > !!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm > > does not yet work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel. > > Unmerge x11-drm. Then rebuild the kernel with DRI support disabled, > go to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building and do the drm and > Mesa parts for your mach64. That should give you 3D-accel back. > Umm. Well I have recompiled the kernel, but I think I can live without drm ;) > There is no need, by the way, to do an 'emerge -e system' after > updating your kernel or glibc. But it is a nice test. > I was following the gentoo documentation, as I used NPTL to rebuild glibc, and the suggested to do emerge -e sytem and emerge -e world if you dared. Thanks to everybody! > Benno -- Tengo que cambiar mi firma - Francisco Santiago Capel Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hy, thanks everyone, I did the livecd-mount-chroot-passwd way, and it worked. Maerlyn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCZSSgMkyacQzgalcRAsa0AJ96q3gIGQ46o3hw/WVkn+xwp1wrxwCdHxwU Zs6+nEkBGgYpDQqxB9YkhL4= =6m9+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS resolution not working with DHCP
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: DHCP works to give me an IP address, and sets the default gateway. /etc/resolv.conf gets automatically changed to one line: nameserver 168.95.1.1 While the network connection works fine (I can ping any valid IP, such as my email server, my home network, etc). However, DNS name resolution is not working. Here's a typical session: This is all you need for name resolution. Your DHCP is supposed to set you the local nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf This seems to work. But you're still not able to resolve hostnames. Seems like a problem with the DHCP/DNS server configuration. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:16:24 +0200 Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | You could file a bug on bugzilla: | "Enhancement: I'd like to have some gentoo Sweaters and mousepads in | the store" No no no no no. Bugzilla is for Gentoo things. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpqrtAyvnKLR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] what is a normal 'emerge -ep system'?
Benno Schulenberg wrote: [snip] > But when I do an 'emerge --depclean -p' it ends with: > > Packages installed: 406 > Packages in world:105 > Packages in system: 62 > Unique package names: 403 > Required packages:417 > Number to remove: 3 > > Only 62 packages in system? Okay, maybe only the basic packages > count, not the ones they depend on: > [snip] When you emerge say "gnome-base/gnome" emerge need to install a lot of other packages. Only gnome will end in "world" the others will increase the number of "Packages installed" The day you will remove "gnome-base/gnome" depclean will remove all the dependancies of it . -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Install corrupted after first reboot.
Hi Gentoo-User, Just been installing Gentoo using the 2005.0 Minimal CD and I did a stage 2. The hardware is a HP DL380 G4, with the internal 6i RAID controller - The Kernel was compiled with the needed support for the 6i controller and my devices were: /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 /boot ext2 /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 /swap /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 /root reiserfs Grub picked up the drive fine after making the required mapping in device.map, all was looking good so I rebooted and got the grub splash screen - selected the install and it then booted, found a reiserfs file system and then rebooted so I let it boot again and then got a reiserfs error so I booted the 2005.0 cd and ran reiserfsck /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 - errors were found and it advised running --rebuild-tree which I did... Now after booting the 2005.0 cd and mounting /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 it would seem that I have only a single directory of which is lost+found. Have I just lost this mornings work and is it worth re-installing ? What could have caused this to happen and would the same thing happen again ? Of all the Gentoo systems I have built and rebuilt - this is the first time I have seen this ! :( Hoping someone can help... Thanks in advance. Mal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
Ow Mun Heng wrote: I see. Then I have no issue with that too. He did something good for the community. (Though I'm not sure what was the reason for leaving) I assume he just wanted to get a life... That said, what are the chances of getting them to sell Gentoo mouse pads? ^_^ I want some Gentoo Sweaters. That's what I want. You could file a bug on bugzilla: "Enhancement: I'd like to have some gentoo Sweaters and mousepads in the store" ;-) Christoph Gysin -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what is a normal 'emerge -ep system'?
What does a normal 'emerge -ep system' look like on x86 with a 2005.0 profile? Just now I saw someone mention having 158 packages in system. Here I have only 103: # emerge -ep system | grep ebuild | wc -l 103 But when I do an 'emerge --depclean -p' it ends with: Packages installed: 406 Packages in world:105 Packages in system: 62 Unique package names: 403 Required packages:417 Number to remove: 3 Only 62 packages in system? Okay, maybe only the basic packages count, not the ones they depend on: # emerge -ept system | grep ebuild | grep -v '] ' | wc -l 27 Hmm! Where does the 62 come from? # emerge -ept system | grep ebuild | grep -v '] ' [ebuild N] sys-devel/bin86-0.16.17 [ebuild N] sys-apps/hdparm-5.7-r1 [ebuild N] sys-libs/pwdb-0.62 [ebuild N] net-misc/openssh-3.9_p1-r2 [ebuild N] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.0-r2 [ebuild N] app-editors/nano-1.3.4 [ebuild N] sys-fs/udev-056 [ebuild N] sys-devel/make-3.80-r1 [ebuild N] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r3 [ebuild N] sys-process/psmisc-21.5 [ebuild N] sys-process/procps-3.2.4-r3 [ebuild N] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60-r11 [ebuild N] sys-apps/man-pages-2.01 [ebuild N] sys-apps/less-382-r2 [ebuild N] sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r3 [ebuild N] sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r1 [ebuild N] sys-apps/ed-0.2-r6 [ebuild N] net-misc/wget-1.9.1-r3 [ebuild N] net-misc/rsync-2.6.0-r4 [ebuild N] net-misc/iputils-021109-r3 [ebuild N] app-shells/sash-3.7 [ebuild N] app-arch/tar-1.15.1 [ebuild N] app-arch/gzip-1.3.5-r5 [ebuild N] app-arch/bzip2-1.0.2-r5 [ebuild N] sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 [ebuild N] x11-terms/xterm-200-r1 [ebuild N] sys-apps/man-1.5p Apart from the exact version numbers, is this normal? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
Maerlyn wrote: > Hy, > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? you can change it: boot from the install cd (or knoppix...) mount the linux partition and chroot to it as during the install and run passwd again -- _ |icq: 177861806 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YoYo () Siska web: http://www.ksp.sk/~yoyo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
Hello, Have you done the following? 1. Boot with the live cd. 2. Mount your "/" partition somewhere (/mnt/gentoo) most likely. 3. Run "chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash" 4. Run passwd to change the password of the root account. 5. Reboot (without the livecd). FWIW, Whenever I forget the root password (Which is surprisinly often), those are the steps I follow... ;-) Hope this helps. -AR On 4/19/05, Maerlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hy, > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? > > - -- > Maerlyn > maerlyn[AT]citromail[DOT]hu > http://putraware.ini.hu > GnuPG Public Key ID: 0x0CE0A57 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFCZRcVMkyacQzgalcRAo/0AJ9MloL/37Ks7fpXoXvl0IrY8rIA/ACfUXvu > z9EQsXVdoXF7iWZlxGdStaw= > =5vt6 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
> I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? > Boot from live cd, mount and execute chroot command, then call 'passwd' to change root's password. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
On Tuesday 19 April 2005 16:35, Maerlyn wrote: > Hy, > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? Yes, add the kernel argument "init=/bin/bash" at the bootloader prompt, then remount the root partition in read/write mode with the command mount / -o rw,remount and then you can change root password with the passwd command. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] minimal image & usb
Hello list, does anyone here can help me.. I have a small minimal image x86 2004.iso burned on cd-rom, it started well and anything work fine. But, for my work, i would like to copy this minimal image or other (until 80-100M), inside my usb hd (4gb) and started automatically the distro at the boot. Is it possible to do this goal? And if so, how i can make all exact step to run under usb? Suggestions, links.. TIA Marco ** very very newbie about gentoo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
put in the live disk again mount drives and chroot to your gentoo install then issue the passwd root command. On 4/19/05, Maerlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hy, > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? > > - -- > Maerlyn > maerlyn[AT]citromail[DOT]hu > http://putraware.ini.hu > GnuPG Public Key ID: 0x0CE0A57 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFCZRcVMkyacQzgalcRAo/0AJ9MloL/37Ks7fpXoXvl0IrY8rIA/ACfUXvu > z9EQsXVdoXF7iWZlxGdStaw= > =5vt6 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost root passwd
Maerlyn wrote: > Hy, > > I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with > passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, > it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. > Is there any way to recover my root passwd? Boot as single user (kernel parameter 'single'). And change it. []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] lost root passwd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hy, I just installed gentoo, and altough I set the root password with passwd after the chroot command, where the install guide told me to, it doesn't work when I try to log in. The other user I created works. Is there any way to recover my root passwd? - -- Maerlyn maerlyn[AT]citromail[DOT]hu http://putraware.ini.hu GnuPG Public Key ID: 0x0CE0A57 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCZRcVMkyacQzgalcRAo/0AJ9MloL/37Ks7fpXoXvl0IrY8rIA/ACfUXvu z9EQsXVdoXF7iWZlxGdStaw= =5vt6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] frame buffers
Hi, What are they? What do they help? How much? How is this related to the USE flag directfb? I'm building a machine that isintended to record a lot of video using MythTV. The video probably won't be viewed directly on this machine but if it is I'd like the performance to be good. Is this somthing that would help significantly? thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to skip x11-drm when emerging -e system?
Francisco Santiago Capel Torres wrote: > I have updated my gentoo to kernel 2.6, and after updating glibc > I have done > > emerge -e system > > But it is stuck telling me this: > >>> emerge (1 of 158) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to / > [...] > !!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm > does not yet work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel. Unmerge x11-drm. Then rebuild the kernel with DRI support disabled, go to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building and do the drm and Mesa parts for your mach64. That should give you 3D-accel back. There is no need, by the way, to do an 'emerge -e system' after updating your kernel or glibc. But it is a nice test. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing 2005.0 with LVM2
> Thanks for the replies guys. I haven't actually had time to proceed with > the installation yet, so I haven't tried what you have suggested. > > I have another query though. How do I get these volumes to initialize at > every boot? > On my system, the '/etc/init.d/checkfs' script does the 'vgchange -y a' activation. I didn't have to change/add anything. As long as you make sure to emerge 'lvm2' during your install (once in the chroot env), you should be good. -Hani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to skip x11-drm when emerging -e system?
On 4/19/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/19/05, Francisco Santiago Capel Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>What can I do? > > > > x11-drm is likely in your world file. You would remove it by hand and > > then emerge world would not include it. Take a look at man emerge and > > I think the file is > > > > /var/lib/portage/world > > Have you tried removing it with: > # emerge -C x11-base/x11-drm > Much better answer. Thanks! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System time drift problem
Le lundi 18 avril 2005 à 23:21 +0200, Richard Fish a écrit : > Frédéric Grosshans wrote: > > >I'll choose the simpler cronjob solution, thanks. Anyway, isn't that a > >kernel bug ? How sould I report this ? > > > > > > Well, from googling around, it seems that a few seconds per day of drift > between the system clock and hardware clock is considered perfectly > normal, A few second/day, yes, but I don't think 5 minutes/day should be considered as normal. (that's 1 second every 5 minutes !) Any idea where it could come from ? The cron solution solves the problem, but I do not like the idea of having a system with such an intrinsic drift ! It's the only linux desktop in the lab, and the only computer with such a drift. Not a good point if I want to convert the others to linux ;-( > and the adjtimex/hwclock/cron solution is really the only option > for synchronizing the two, while NTP is the best solution. Indeed the > normal case is for both system and hardware clocks to drift away from > the real time. OK > > You mentioned you were behind a firewall and couldn't use NTP. I am > curious, because most networks I have connected to have only disabled > NTP access if they provide an internal NTP server. Have you asked the > network admins if there is an NTP server available? To be more precise, I'm in a University which has some metrology lab, and yes there are local ntp servers, but I don't seem to be able to access them neither. That's probably because I'm not in any DNS. The solution to change this would probably to be in charge of the DNS of my lab, but : - I'm on a temporary position here - I'm here as a scientist, and I don't really want to become the lab's sysadmin Thanks for the suggestion anyway, Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to skip x11-drm when emerging -e system?
Mark Knecht wrote: On 4/19/05, Francisco Santiago Capel Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What can I do? x11-drm is likely in your world file. You would remove it by hand and then emerge world would not include it. Take a look at man emerge and I think the file is /var/lib/portage/world Have you tried removing it with: # emerge -C x11-base/x11-drm Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice: emerge --resume
On 4/19/05, Mrugesh Karnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I don't remember who it was, but just last week, someone mentioned > using the feature "keeptmp" (the name could be wrong. I don't remember > properly and strangly I've somehow not archived the mail :S ) in > make.conf. That makes portage keep all the cache intact, but consumes a > lot of hard disk space, especially if you're talking about OOo. Use this > option with ccache and it'll resume the build "dynamically" or so > have I heard! To resume an emerge, I normally do as follows: 1-go to /var/tmp/portage//work/ 2-"make" 3-after make completes, I call ebuild directly passing 'install' as argument, and then qmerge. However, I don't know why (and haven't bothered to discover), mas sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. I guess there's something in control files to tell portage in which stage it stopped. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 08:17 -0500, Keith Gable wrote: > > On 4/19/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > Sorry.. I don't get why he's 20,000 in debt due to Gentoo. > > Daniel Robbins was Chief Architect and founder of gentoo > linux. Appearantly he > spent more time working on gentoo as he did on earning > money ;-) > > Which is why I'm perfectly comfortable with all the money going > towards him. It's not like he's some sort of evil dictator or > anything. I see. Then I have no issue with that too. He did something good for the community. (Though I'm not sure what was the reason for leaving) > > That said, what are the chances of getting them to sell Gentoo mouse > pads? ^_^ I want some Gentoo Sweaters. That's what I want. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 21:48:16 up 1 day, 6:23, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.32, 0.47 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to skip x11-drm when emerging -e system?
On 4/19/05, Francisco Santiago Capel Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have updated my gentoo to kernel 2.6, and after updating glibc I have done > > emerge -e system > > But it is stuck telling me this: > > >>> emerge (1 of 158) x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 to / > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) xfree-drm-4.3.0-r7-gentoo-0.4.tar.bz2 > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) linux-drm-4.3.0-kernelsource-20031202.tar.bz2 > QA Notice: USE Flag 'video_cards_mach64' not in IUSE for > x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 > > !!! ERROR: x11-base/x11-drm-4.3.0-r7 failed. > !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 72, Exitcode 0 > !!! Please link //usr/src/linux to 2.4 kernel sources. x11-drm does not yet > work with 2.6 kernels, use the DRM in the kernel. > !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status > message. > > What can I do? x11-drm is likely in your world file. You would remove it by hand and then emerge world would not include it. Take a look at man emerge and I think the file is /var/lib/portage/world Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System time drift problem
Le mardi 19 avril 2005 à 09:09 +0930, Iain Buchanan a écrit : > > are you sure this doesn't answer your question? It solved my system > clock drift (which was about 30 minutes a day, but hw clock was ok). I > know adjtime is used to correct inaccurate hwclocks, but it can get > stuffed. post your /etc/adjtime and see what it says... I've already played with it / deleted it and it doesn't seem to change anything. My current /etc/adjtime is 0.00 1113497480 0.00 1113497480 LOCAL and didn't prevent any drift -- Frédéric Grosshans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On 4/19/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote:> Sorry.. I don't get why he's 20,000 in debt due to Gentoo.Daniel Robbins was Chief Architect and founder of gentoo linux. Appearantly he spent more time working on gentoo as he did on earning money ;-) Which is why I'm perfectly comfortable with all the money going towards him. It's not like he's some sort of evil dictator or anything. That said, what are the chances of getting them to sell Gentoo mouse pads? ^_^ Christoph--echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- "Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems." -- Linus Torvalds
[gentoo-user] DNS resolution not working with DHCP
I'm travelling on business and trying to use the hotel-supplied internet. I'm
using a Telkonet Bridge through the building's wiring. (Laptop -> Cat-5
cable -> Telkonet -> building wiring.) My laptop is an up-to-date Gentoo,
2.6 kernel, IBM Thinkpad R51.
DHCP works to give me an IP address, and sets the default
gateway. /etc/resolv.conf gets automatically changed to one line:
nameserver 168.95.1.1
While the network connection works fine (I can ping any valid IP, such as my
email server, my home network, etc). However, DNS name resolution is not
working. Here's a typical session:
orion root # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
* Running predown function
* Bringing eth0 down
* Releasing DHCP lease for eth0...
[ ok ]
* Stopping eth0...
[ ok ]
orion root # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
* Running preup function
* Wireless extensions not found for eth0
* Bringing eth0 up via DHCP...
dhcpcd: MAC address = 00:0d:60:78:92:1f
dhcpcd: your IP address = 192.168.1.137
dhcpcd: orig hostname = orion
dhcpcd: orig domainname = (none)
[ ok ]
* eth0 received address 192.168.1.137
orion root # ping www.utk.edu
ping: unknown host www.utk.edu
orion root # ping 160.36.178.162
PING 160.36.178.162 (160.36.178.162) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 160.36.178.162: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=90.7 ms
64 bytes from 160.36.178.162: icmp_seq=2 ttl=235 time=89.3 ms
64 bytes from 160.36.178.162: icmp_seq=3 ttl=235 time=88.6 ms
64 bytes from 160.36.178.162: icmp_seq=4 ttl=235 time=87.7 ms
64 bytes from 160.36.178.162: icmp_seq=5 ttl=235 time=89.0 ms
--- 160.36.178.162 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 87.782/89.131/90.759/1.027 ms
orion root # netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0
orion root # cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 168.95.1.1
orion root #
Here's /etc/conf.d/net (less comments):
iface_eth0="dhcp"
dhcpcd_eth0="-dBSDH -t 5"
iface_eth1="dhcp"
dhcpcd_eth1="-dN -t 10"
iface_eth2="dhcp"
dhcpcd_eth2="-dN -t 10"
###
# Hook wireless into /etc/init.d/net.eth0
# Please note, these lines should appear
# at the END of the file
source /etc/init.d/wireless.sh
preup() {
wireless_up ${1}
return $?
}
predown() {
wireless_down ${1}
return $?
}
# End hook
###
What's not set up right? Is there something on the network filtering me out?
Am I missing a configuration setting?
Note: I get the same behavior from a Knoppix boot.
Peace,
Gabriel
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Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel
Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/18/05, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That depends: when building from CVS, it should be off. > > I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by building from CVS. This: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building, the drm part. > > for glxgears is /usr/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so. > > Ah, well that's not loaded. Worse (I think) is thatI can find > nothing that's trying to load it. Do an $ export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose $ export MESA_DEBUG=verbose and run glxinfo again. See it trying to open radeon_dri.so, with probably some undefined symbols, or some other error. But I'm not sure, I don't have a radeon. > Where is this supposed to be included to get it to load in the > Gentoo way? If it exists, X will find and use it automatically. > > For a better summary: grep RADEON /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > It's long, but it ends with 'Direct Rendering enabled'! Good, you're in business! The normal device driver works. Now only get the 3D-stuff (radeon_dri.so) running. There is something strange though: all the drm and agp things seem to be done twice, starting with "[drm] DRM interface version 1.2". Or is that a mispaste? > > If preloading the module doesn't help, and building the agp > > stuff into the kernel neither, Did you try this? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
