[gentoo-user] mozilla crashing
Hi, I have a problem with mozilla. The mozilla crashes with segfault: /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 10988 Segmentation fault $mozbin $@ mozilla-bin exited with non-zero status (139) Can someone help me ??? Thanks. Pat -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] bastard.sh - mass unmasker/keywords utility
Dear Fellow Users, I don't know if someones already done this, however, I really, really, painfully want Gnome 2.14, and I hate the unmasking crap. So I hacked up this script, and I thought of all the other ricers out there who desperately want it. So, WFM [works for me], hope it's useful to others. Sincerely, Joshua bastard.sh Description: Bourne shell script
[gentoo-user] bastard.sh - mass unmasker/keywords utility
Dear Fellow Users, I don't know if someones already done this, however, I really, really, painfully want Gnome 2.14, and I hate the unmasking crap. So I hacked up this script, and I thought of all the other ricers out there who desperately want it. So, WFM [works for me], hope it's useful to others. In any case, this is a resend of the script, since I got some ambiguous 'blocked message' errors, I put it up on my website, and left it for all: Secure: https://embassy.asylumware.com/projects/asylumware/wiki/bastard Plain: http://embassy.asylumware.com/projects/asylumware/wiki/bastard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[solved] Re: [gentoo-user] after an update i can't boot my kernel anymore
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:47:33 +0100 Keats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was only about a baselayout package... i just mask it and now the system can boot after the update... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD
-Original Message- From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2006 13:35 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends: [snip...] And yet, believe it or not, I did successfully burn an ISO image of the Gentoo Minimal InstallCD (49 MB). It took some effort (same error message) but finally succeeded. Intermittent problems like this could be either due to hardware (faulty ribbon) and, or buggy firmware. If this is a recently developed behaviour I would suggest that you start by replacing the ribbon. Using Knoppix (from the hard drive) and K3B will I guess prove the point. Its surely and definitely a software problem (since you can burn CDs), and has probably nothing to do with Nero. Nero has brought a couple of updates out (some of them free) and I would suggest that the OP downloads and installs them for good measure, if he hasn't done that already. Additionally, he should update his firmware using the relevant OEM downloads page. the above, change media (some CDs just don't work), and last, drop Nero and try XPBurnerPro, its free, simple and works very well. Cool! http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php I'll try it out soon. Also, you may want to try http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download (the portable free version). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] # users gives strange results
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 02:40 +0100, Matthias Langer wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 18:51 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 04:51:31AM +0100, Matthias Langer wrote: Recently i've got a power failure while one of my gentoo boxes was up and running. Since then, the users command seems not to work correctly anymore, as it claims for users to be logged in that almost certainly aren't and don't have a single process running. Besides of this issue, everthing seems to work as expected. Can anybody here tell me where to look for the source of this problem ? Thanks, Matthias I am running into a similar problem recently. I found out that sometimes, after updating 'system', init would restart. During an recent upgrade, after init restarts, the users that were logged-in at that time become ghosts of some sort. 'w' would show the correct number of people logged in, but some other commands won't. It might have something to do with the fact that wtmp is not registering the logouts from thost users. If I issue 'last | head' i would see something to that effect. I am wondering perhaps removing /var/log/wtmp would solve the issue (you might also want to touch /var/log/wtmp afterwards). It might require a rebooting (which I haven't gotten around to doing). Well, i tried that after booting into x86-2006.0-minimal. Unfortunatley, that didn't solve my issuses; I found out that my system behaves after the following pattern: login with user1: $ users user1 $ exit login with user2: $users user1 user2 $exit login with user3: $users user2 user3 Thus, the system seems to ignore logouts as long as there are not more then two additional logins. I've also did a reiserfschk while staying in the live-cd environment, but no corruptions where found ... By the way, the output of $ w seems correct ... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Flag USE
Hi all, I am new on this list (and new of Gentoo). I have some doubts on the setting of the flag USE. I understood its features but I do not know WHEN use them. Some questions: 1 - Is it mandatory to set the Flag USE? 2 - If not, should I verify which flags to use for each package I want to install (using the --pretend and --verbose options of emerge) and then set USE accordingly? Bye emilio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flag USE
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 13:50 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am new on this list (and new of Gentoo). I have some doubts on the setting of the flag USE. I understood its features but I do not know WHEN use them. Some questions: 1 - Is it mandatory to set the Flag USE? 2 - If not, should I verify which flags to use for each package I want to install (using the --pretend and --verbose options of emerge) and then set USE accordingly? Bye emilio You should never do things like: USE=some_flags emerge some_package Instead you should configure a set of useflags you think are good for your needs in general in make.conf. If you want to overide these settings for a specific package do so by using /etc/portage/package.use. Just to give you an example, my make.conf contains this: USE=3dnow alsa bzlib gphoto2 apm jpeg mmx xine xmms zlib opengl oggvorbis gnome gtk gtk2 sse 3dnowext sqlite usb -emacs -flac -php -pyton -mysql -matrox -kde -wxwindows -scanner -samba -yahoo -oci -qt unicode evo mmxext dvdr -eds hal dbus firefox nvidia dvd win32codecs -firebird nsplugin -arts real flac theora vcd css -oss nautilus cairo a52 avi dvdread divx4linux dv encode fame mpeg ogg quicktime subtitles vorbis xvid nptl wma -apache -apache2 fam -esd You find documentation on the various gentoo use flags at: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml For example, to emerge dev-libs/boost with +debug +doc +threads on my system, i did: # echo dev-libs/boost debug doc threads /etc/portage/package.use # emerge -av boost By the why, if you think emerge -s some_package is slow, then # emerge eix This is a really nice tool for searching trough portage fast and with very nice and informative output. Instead of # emerge sync you can do # eix-sync HTH, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] problems emerging net-libs/openh323
hi, there, I am trying to install gnomemeeting, but net-libs/openh323 still fails to emerge. the error is the following: /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib/contain.inl: In constructor `PAbstractList::PAbstractList()': /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib/contain.inl:428: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect g++ -DP_USE_PRAGMA -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -D_REENTRANT -Wall -fPIC -I/mnt/hda/portage/openh323-1.13.2-r2/work/openh323/include -I/usr/include/ffmpeg -DPASN_NOPRINTON -DPASN_LEANANDMEAN -DHAS_OSS -DPASN_NOPRINTON -I/usr/share/pwlib/include -Os -DNDEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -x c++ -c ffh263codec.cxx -o /mnt/hda/portage/openh323-1.13.2-r2/work/openh323/lib/obj_linux_x86_rn/ffh263codec.o In file included from /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib/contain.h:782, from /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib.h:146, from ffh263codec.cxx:126: /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib/contain.inl: In constructor `PAbstractList::PAbstractList()': /usr/share/pwlib/include/ptlib/contain.inl:428: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect ffh263codec.cxx: In function `void h263_ffmpeg_printon(char*)': ffh263codec.cxx:156: warning: statement has no effect ffh263codec.cxx: In member function `void H323_FFH263Codec::InitialiseCodec()': ffh263codec.cxx:629: error: 'struct AVCodecContext' has no member named 'frame_rate' is there a way to install gnomemeeting without openh323? thanks in advance. claudio. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flag USE
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 06:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Flag USE': 1 - Is it mandatory to set the Flag USE? No; you do not have to specify any USE flags (by defining the USE variable) in your make.conf. Your profile provides some defaults. Using the defaults means you will be using the Gentoo Reference Platform (GRP) for your profile -- if you do that, you may be able to use binary packages provided by Gentoo on the package CD, if you wish. 2 - If not, should I verify which flags to use for each package I want to install (using the --pretend and --verbose options of emerge) and then set USE accordingly? This is how I gradually developed by USE variable AND my package.use file. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
Hi all, This is driving me crazy. If I use the synaptics driver, my touchpad stop working after starting a GTK app (tried vmware, grkellm2, firefox). It doesn't occours when I'm using a mouse driver for it. But I want to use some advantages in synaptics driver. Any clue? []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: core packages for a dual-boot system
On 3/19/06, Robert Welz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Hi. You don't have to format your windows partition, you don't even toch it. Just format /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 and /dev/hda2 and install gentoo on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 as described in the handbook. When gentoo is installed completely you just edit grub.conf and you are fine: Add title Windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 and you can boot into Windows. Robert .. Thanks, Robert. Before doing anything, I just wanted to make sure that I have it right. localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf -n 1 default 0 2 timeout 30 3 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz 4 title=Gentoo Linux 5 root (hd0,1) 6 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4 7 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 localhost ~ # cat grub.conf -n 1 default 0 2 timeout 30 3 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz 4 title=Gentoo Linux 5 root (hd0,1) 6 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4 7 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 8 9 title Windows 10rootnoverify (hd0,0) 11chainloader +1 localhost ~ # date Tue Mar 21 14:40:40 GMT 2006 localhost ~ # So, just replace /boot/grub/grub.conf with /root/grub.conf , yes? All is well with gentoo :) thanks, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 isn't that a bit much? localhost Desktop # localhost Desktop # localhost Desktop # cat log.txt -n 1 GLI: March 20 2006 14:00:01 - Setting root password. 2 GLI: March 20 2006 14:00:03 - Livecd root password set. 3 GLI: March 20 2006 14:00:04 - Portmap started. 4 GLI: March 20 2006 14:00:04 - Completed pre_install steps 5 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - partitioning: Processing /dev/hda... 6 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Partition 1 has origminor 1...saving start sector 63 and end sector 22924754 7 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Deleting old minor 1 to be recreated later 8 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Partitioning: Second pass... 9 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Partitioning: Third passcreating partitions 10 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Drive has 60058656 sectors 11 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Partition 1 has 11193MB 12 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Old start sector 63 retrieved 13 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Retrieved start sector is not the same as the calculated next start sector 14 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Old end sector 22924754 retrieved 15 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Adding primary partition 1 from 63 to 22924754 16 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Partition 2 has 100MB 17 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Start sector calculated to be 22924755 18 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - End sector calculated to be 23129555 19 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:52 - Adding primary partition 2 from 22924755 to 23129555 20 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:53 - Formatting partition 2 as ext2 with: mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda2 21 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:54 - Partition 3 has 436MB 22 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:54 - Start sector calculated to be 23129556 23 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:54 - End sector calculated to be 24022484 24 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:54 - Adding primary partition 3 from 23129556 to 24022484 25 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:55 - Formatting partition 3 as linux-swap with: mkswap /dev/hda3 26 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:55 - Partition 4 has 17590MB 27 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:55 - Start sector calculated to be 24022485 28 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:55 - End sector calculated to be 60046805 29 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:55 - Adding primary partition 4 from 24022485 to 60046805 30 GLI: March 20 2006 14:08:56 - Formatting partition 4 as ext3 with: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda4 31 GLI: March 20 2006 14:09:20 - Mounted mountpoint: / 32 GLI: March 20 2006 14:09:22 - Created mountpoint /boot 33 GLI: March 20 2006 14:09:22 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot 34 GLI: March 20 2006 14:09:22 - Fetching and unpacking tarball: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/current/stages/stage3-x86-2006.0.tar.bz2 35 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:22 - http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/current/stages/stage3-x86-2006.0.tar.bz2 was fetched and unpacked. 36 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - fstab configured. 37 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/rc.conf 38 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/clock 39 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/keymaps 40 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 41 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Config files updated using etc-update. make.conf/fstab/rc.conf restored. 42 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 43 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 44 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 45 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 46 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf 47 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:30 - Make.conf configured 48 GLI: March 20 2006 14:27:32 - Chroot environment ready. 49 GLI: March 20 2006 15:04:52 - Portage tree sync'd 50 GLI: March 20 2006 15:04:54 - Root Password set on the new system. 51 GLI: March 20 2006 15:04:55 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/clock 52 GLI: March 20 2006 15:04:55 - Timezone set. 53 GLI: March 20 2006 15:04:55 - Starting emerge_kernel 54 GLI: March 20 2006 15:10:35 - Coldplug emerged. Now they should be added to the boot runlevel. 55 GLI: March 20 2006 15:10:35 - Added coldplug to runlevel boot 56 GLI: March 20 2006 15:10:35 - -- MARK -- 57 GLI: March 20 2006 15:10:35 - Starting build_kernel 58 GLI: March 20 2006 15:12:42 - Added syslog-ng to runlevel default 59 GLI: March 20 2006 15:12:42 - Logging daemon installed: syslog-ng 60 GLI: March 20 2006 15:14:05 - Added vixie-cron to runlevel default 61 GLI: March 20 2006 15:14:05 - Cron daemon installed
Re: [gentoo-user] bastard.sh - mass unmasker/keywords utility
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 10:47, Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: So, WFM [works for me], hope it's useful to others. In any case, this is a resend of the script, since I got some ambiguous 'blocked message' errors, I put it up on my website, and left it for all: Secure: https://embassy.asylumware.com/projects/asylumware/wiki/bastard Plain: http://embassy.asylumware.com/projects/asylumware/wiki/bastard # emerge -vp =gnome-2.14* These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =gnome-2.14* have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # John N. Laliberte [EMAIL PROTECTED] (12 Mar 2006) # GNOME 2.14 mask. You must follow instructions here: # http://d.g.o/~allanonjl/gnome/2.13/adding.from.overlay.txt # for adding files from our overlay. #Most of these packages will break/not compile because of eclass #changes that won't be made until every package is in the tree. #Don't unmask these and don't file bugs for them # Start GNOME 2.14 mask Did you the read comments here (d.g.o refers to dev.gentoo.org in case anyone is wondering)? I most certainly wouldn't go ahead and unmask any package with that kind of explanation why it was masked in the first place. What bothers me about this, however, is not the fact that you did unmask it but rather the fact the you leave a script here which is supposed to be able to unmask and unkeyword any package without giving any kind of warnings about this. IMHO any script that is made public and which does what your script is doing should print out the reason why each package it unmasks was originally masked and perhaps even ask for confirmation. Also I think it is a bit amusing that running your script without any arguments tells me that I should include the versioned name of any package that I want unmasked/unkeyworded. And then giving any kind of argument(s) makes it unmask/unkeyword gnome-2.14*. Without checking the argument(s) that I gave. I know.. it's just a minor bug. I also think (without knowing it) that it will in fact work for most packages when that minor bug is corrected. ;) It does, however, work for gnome-2.14.0 and it does add a LOT of lines to package.keyword and package.mask. E.g. media-libs/gst-plugins-base adds five lines to package.keyword i.e. version 0.10.0 to 0.10.4 on a line each. I don't think the results will ever differ on the first two version numbers so I think the optimal solution for this would be to just add version 0.10*. I'm not sure that it will never differ though. Just for the record I am not trying to offend you here. This is supposed to be constructive critisism. ;) -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
* On Mar 21 12:43, Mauro Faccenda (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: If I use the synaptics driver, my touchpad stop working after starting a GTK app (tried vmware, grkellm2, firefox). It doesn't occours when I'm using a mouse driver for it. But I want to use some advantages in synaptics driver. Can you give us any more details about your system? I'm using the synaptics driver as well, on an ALPS trackpad (Dell Inspiron 6000) and GTK apps work fine. Tom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
Pardon, but I'm not clear on this command, apparently. Coming from fedora, I could just create a user, change the password, login, and everything would be set. However, gentoo doesn't create /home/user_name ? No problem, I created that directory. However, startx as that user gives errors. I can capture those errors, but apparently I'm going about this the wrong way. ? I also tried creating a user from gnome but ran into the same problem. Right now I'm running as root :( thanks, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bastard.sh - mass unmasker/keywords utility
# emerge -vp =gnome-2.14* These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =gnome-2.14* have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - gnome-base/gnome-2.14.0 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # John N. Laliberte [EMAIL PROTECTED] (12 Mar 2006) # GNOME 2.14 mask. You must follow instructions here: # http://d.g.o/~allanonjl/gnome/2.13/adding.from.overlay.txt # for adding files from our overlay. #Most of these packages will break/not compile because of eclass #changes that won't be made until every package is in the tree. #Don't unmask these and don't file bugs for them # Start GNOME 2.14 mask Did you the read comments here (d.g.o refers to dev.gentoo.org in case anyone is wondering)? I most certainly wouldn't go ahead and unmask any package with that kind of explanation why it was masked in the first place. What bothers me about this, however, is not the fact that you did unmask it but rather the fact the you leave a script here which is supposed to be able to unmask and unkeyword any package without giving any kind of warnings about this. Yeah, so? *crickets* Thanks, the d.g.o. was pretty clear, but I can imagine that confusing people, the referenced document was next to useless, did you read it? IMHO any script that is made public and which does what your script is doing should print out the reason why each package it unmasks was originally masked and perhaps even ask for confirmation. I'm not a baby sitter, and we are using Linux. However, due to your concerns I will put in a warning, and add that as a TODO on my page. Furthermore, I have no idea what concerns you really have here. Nothing will format thier FS, it may Break Their Gentoo(tm). I can imagine all sort of evil here. However, since I am only marginally assist them, if they do something stupid, it's their own fault. Also I think it is a bit amusing that running your script without any arguments tells me that I should include the versioned name of any package that I want unmasked/unkeyworded. And then giving any kind of argument(s) makes it unmask/unkeyword gnome-2.14*. Without checking the argument(s) that I gave. I know.. it's just a minor bug. I also think (without knowing it) that it will in fact work for most packages when that minor bug is corrected. ;) heh, thanks, It was very late last night, and I uploaded the wrong version of the script, however, apart from the bugfix I added a warning to keep people happy. It does, however, work for gnome-2.14.0 and it does add a LOT of lines to package.keyword and package.mask. E.g. media-libs/gst-plugins-base adds five lines to package.keyword i.e. version 0.10.0 to 0.10.4 on a line each. I don't think the results will ever differ on the first two version numbers so I think the optimal solution for this would be to just add version 0.10*. I'm not sure that it will never differ though. Actually, that was one of my TODO items. I think that there should be two options, -L for latest and the default behaviour of more conservative to pick the earliest package and install that. Can you submit a patch? Just for the record I am not trying to offend you here. This is supposed to be constructive critisism. ;) Oh, I am not to worried about what other people think, and I never pictured a warning being needed. SO, hey, it was probably good for someone. Sorry for typos - babies are screaming =). Sincerley, Joshua -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 12:53, Thomas Kirchner wrote: Can you give us any more details about your system? I'm using the synaptics driver as well, on an ALPS trackpad (Dell Inspiron 6000) and GTK apps work fine. my system is a acer travelmate 8104wlmi. from /proc/bus/input/devices: I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0007 Version= N: Name=SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad P: Phys=isa0060/serio4/input0 S: Sysfs=/class/input/input3 H: Handlers=mouse1 event2 B: EV=b B: KEY=6420 0 7000f 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: ABS=1103 do you need something more? []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:10 AM, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: Pardon, but I'm not clear on this command, apparently. Coming from fedora, I could just create a user, change the password, login, and everything would be set. However, gentoo doesn't create /home/user_name ? No problem, I created that directory. However, startx as that user gives errors. I can capture those errors, but apparently I'm going about this the wrong way. ? I also tried creating a user from gnome but ran into the same problem. Right now I'm running as root :( thanks, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list if you add the -m argument to useradd, it will create the directory and own it by the user being added. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
El Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:10:45 + THUFIR HAWAT dijo: Pardon, but I'm not clear on this command, apparently. Coming from fedora, I could just create a user, change the password, login, and everything would be set. However, gentoo doesn't create /home/user_name ? No problem, I created that directory. However, startx as that user gives errors. I can capture those errors, but apparently I'm going about this the wrong way. ? Probably your home doesn't belong to you, or has very restrictive permission. I also tried creating a user from gnome but ran into the same problem. I do not use gnome... :-( thanks, Thufir HTH -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Por regla general, las chicas malas suelen ser las que están más buenas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
Mauro Faccenda: If I use the synaptics driver, my touchpad stop working after starting a GTK app (tried vmware, grkellm2, firefox). It doesn't occours when I'm using a mouse driver for it. But I want to use some advantages in synaptics driver. Is there InputDevice TouckPad AlwaysCore in your xorg.conf? HTH Sergio ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
THUFIR HAWAT wrote: The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 Depends entirely on what you installed, your CPU, your RAM, and half a dozen other things. I'd expect with X and KDE/Gnome that looks about right. If all your src is local (portage, stage3, and distfiles), you have dual CPU, lots of RAM, and are installing a stripped down build to be a server it takes just under two hours or so depending on the amount of software I need for that type of server. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
kashani wrote: THUFIR HAWAT wrote: The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 Depends entirely on what you installed, your CPU, your RAM, and half a dozen other things. I'd expect with X and KDE/Gnome that looks about right. If all your src is local (portage, stage3, and distfiles), you have dual CPU, lots of RAM, and are installing a stripped down build to be a server it takes just under two hours or so depending on the amount of software I need for that type of server. kashani If you do GRP packages, it's even faster than that. Immediately after I bought my laptop, I went to Denny's with it and an install CD and a package CD and had it installed before the battery died. And that's on a Pentium M 1.86Ghz and 512MB of RAM. It's all dependant on how you install it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: mpg123: Can't open /dev/dsp!
Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... mpg123 complains about not being able to open /dev/dsp ... Does mpg123 -a /dev/sound/dsp work ? -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ping!
Hi, Oops, lost the thread turning off dhcp end. Thanks to Neil. Both boxen can ping each other. Now to clear up a few loose ends: Why on the fresh(2.6.15) install does net.eth0 start automatically and the older(2.6.12) have to be started manually? Is this a bug or a feature? I note the abundance of choices in portage/net-ftp. What do I need? I'll just be moving files back and forth. I don't think security is an issue. Is ftp all I need? The 2.6.12(Sempron) will be the main machine, connected to the web via diallup. The 2.6.15(K6) I plan to use as a platform for micro develpt. emerge -pv ftp on the 2.6.12 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r3 +ssl 52 kB but the 2.6.15 adds the +ipv6 flag. Neither make.conf mentions it. Does the .15, AMD K6-2, know something I don't? -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: send mail to gentoo-user locally
Mingfeng Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Postfix is installed in my local machine to deliver mails locally (mainly for sending me the system logs). Now my problem is: the mail sent out by postfix (sendmail) is always get rejected by the mailing lists, though I set my_hdr From: mfyang [EMAIL PROTECTED] in muttrc. Do you send outgoing mail via a smart host ? If not then is there somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED] that will authenticate you and the pass your email on ? Otherwise you will get blocked because you could be anyone, with any faked headers, especially if you are on dial-up. -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flag USE
Alle 14:14, martedì 21 marzo 2006, Matthias Langer ha scritto: On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 13:50 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am new on this list (and new of Gentoo). I have some doubts on the setting of the flag USE. I understood its features but I do not know WHEN use them. Some questions: 1 - Is it mandatory to set the Flag USE? 2 - If not, should I verify which flags to use for each package I want to install (using the --pretend and --verbose options of emerge) and then set USE accordingly? Bye emilio You should never do things like: USE=some_flags emerge some_package Instead you should configure a set of useflags you think are good for your needs in general in make.conf. If you want to overide these settings for a specific package do so by using /etc/portage/package.use. Just to give you an example, my make.conf contains this: USE=3dnow alsa bzlib gphoto2 apm jpeg mmx xine xmms zlib opengl oggvorbis gnome gtk gtk2 sse 3dnowext sqlite usb -emacs -flac -php -pyton -mysql -matrox -kde -wxwindows -scanner -samba -yahoo -oci -qt unicode evo mmxext dvdr -eds hal dbus firefox nvidia dvd win32codecs -firebird nsplugin -arts real flac theora vcd css -oss nautilus cairo a52 avi dvdread divx4linux dv encode fame mpeg ogg quicktime subtitles vorbis xvid nptl wma -apache -apache2 fam -esd You find documentation on the various gentoo use flags at: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml For example, to emerge dev-libs/boost with +debug +doc +threads on my system, i did: # echo dev-libs/boost debug doc threads /etc/portage/package.use # emerge -av boost By the why, if you think emerge -s some_package is slow, then # emerge eix This is a really nice tool for searching trough portage fast and with very nice and informative output. Instead of # emerge sync you can do # eix-sync HTH, Matthias The fog vanished. ;-)) Yhank you (Boyd Stephen too) emilio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE version
Hi everybody. To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? emilio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process
On 3/20/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds pretty good to me. So if I do a stage 3 install as per the current Gentoo docs plus 'emerge -e system' I will end up with the same thing that I did with a stage 1 install? I remember thinking that I was getting a deeper level of optimization by starting with stage 1. I can't remember the details anymore though. - Grant Yes, effectively it's the same thing. In both cases (Stage1 or Stage3 + emerge -e system) you've built every package yourself. Starting with Stage3 gives you a usable system right at the start, while with Stage1 you need to spend a fairly large amount of time getting the system ready. Also, if you start with Stage3, you may not even need to rebuild the installed packages, as if it's been a little while since the Stage3 image was created, there will be new versions of everything, so you'd be rebuilding when you do a 'emerge -u system' anyways. HTH, Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
On 3/21/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. if you add the -m argument to useradd, it will create the directory and own it by the user being added. .. Ah, thanks all for responding :) -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 13:34, Sergio Polini wrote: Is there InputDevice TouckPad AlwaysCore in your xorg.conf? hi Sergio, thanks for your help. but there is a weird thing: adding this parameter in xorg.conf made the touchpad work in fluxbox with any kind of app (gtk, qt, etc...). but in kde it stop working when kde splash says its starting the window manager. any other clue? []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
I've read http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Skype and it looks ok. Under fedora it never quite worked right, some sort of incompatability with xmms I suspect. Just sorta soliciting experiences with skype and gentoo :) If I can get it working properly that'd be one less reason to use windows :) -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ping!
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:43 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: Hi, Oops, lost the thread turning off dhcp end. Thanks to Neil. Both boxen can ping each other. Now to clear up a few loose ends: Why on the fresh(2.6.15) install does net.eth0 start automatically and the older(2.6.12) have to be started manually? Is this a bug or a feature? I note the abundance of choices in portage/net-ftp. What do I need? I'll just be moving files back and forth. I don't think security is an issue. Is ftp all I need? The 2.6.12(Sempron) will be the main machine, connected to the web via diallup. The 2.6.15(K6) I plan to use as a platform for micro develpt. emerge -pv ftp on the 2.6.12 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r3 +ssl 52 kB but the 2.6.15 adds the +ipv6 flag. Neither make.conf mentions it. Does the .15, AMD K6-2, know something I don't? -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi, I had issues on various packages after an emerge update too. I think it was a baselayout issue. Seems the new baselayout (dunno from what time on) doesn't handle kernels prior to 2.6.14 correctly. Downgrade your portage and see when all for kernel 2.6.12 starts working again. Just a thought Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
Hi everybody. To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? Hi, that's normal, because all kde-3.5 packages are still masked. You have to unmask them to get kde-3.5 installed. This link should help you : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4 Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? emilio I did not sync recently but (on my amd64 machine) emerge --pretend =kde-3.5.0 shows the package are still masked with keyword. Thierry -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
I wrote most of that howto on the gentoo wiki, and I have to say that once you set up alsa, oss emulation, and skype correctly, it works like a charm. I even have it redirecting output to another sound card which I have a headset built into. A few things to note:-Because this is an earlier version of the skype base software, a few features are missing and probably will be for some time. This includes video, advanced noise reduction, ability to redirect output to one mixer and input to another, and the list goes on. But for my purposes, it's just fine. -There's a bug that pops up every now and then where Skype won't close your oss sound device after ending a call. The only way I've seen to fix this is to close Skype, restart alsa, then reopen Skype. Large pain in the butt. Apparently Skype has been working furiously on a newer version where alsa support and the like will be built in, but I'm waiting to see that one.--JBDubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED] )On 3/21/06, THUFIR HAWAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Skype and it looks ok.Underfedora it never quite worked right, some sort of incompatability withxmms I suspect.Just sorta soliciting experiences with skype and gentoo :)If I can get it working properly that'd be one less reason to use windows :)-Thufir--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
Mauro Faccenda: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 13:34, Sergio Polini wrote: Is there InputDevice TouckPad AlwaysCore in your xorg.conf? hi Sergio, thanks for your help. but there is a weird thing: adding this parameter in xorg.conf [etc.] That line should have been in xorg.conf ;-) Have you read http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad ? made the touchpad work in fluxbox with any kind of app (gtk, qt, etc...). but in kde it stop working when kde splash says its starting the window manager. any other clue? My mouse and my touchpah (HP Pavilion dv5078ea) work well. Perhaps you should look again at your xorg.conf. In my xorg.conf there are two InputDevice sections: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Device /dev/input/mice EndSection Section InputDevice Driver synaptics Identifier TouchPad Option Device/dev/input/mouse0 Option Protocol auto-dev Option LeftEdge 1700 Option RightEdge 5300 Option TopEdge 1700 Option BottomEdge4200 Option FingerLow 25 Option FingerHigh30 Option MaxTapTime180 Option MaxTapMove220 Option VertScrollDelta 100 Option MinSpeed0.09 Option MaxSpeed0.18 Option AccelFactor 0.0015 Option SHMConfig on EndSection In the second section, your Option Device should be: Option Device/dev/input/mouse1 because of your /proc/bus/input/devices. Ciao Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:32:42 + THUFIR HAWAT wrote: On 3/21/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. if you add the -m argument to useradd, it will create the directory and own it by the user being added. .. Ah, thanks all for responding :) -Thufir Big tip of the day: emerge superadduser then utilise superadduser instead of adduser -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 18:21, Sergio Polini wrote: In the second section, your Option Device should be: Option Device/dev/input/mouse1 because of your /proc/bus/input/devices. my touchpad configuration it is almost the same as yours, and the device is right. another odd thing that I hadn't seen before sending the previous mail is that the buttons works (left, mid -- with vertical and horizontal scroll, and right). but the pad don't. i was thinking that maybe the pad is disabled so, i tried to use synclient to change it. here is the output for synclient -l $ synclient -l Parameter settings: LeftEdge = 4700 RightEdge= 1400 TopEdge = 5600 BottomEdge = 25 FingerLow= 30 FingerHigh = 180 MaxTapTime = 180 MaxTapMove = 220 MaxDoubleTapTime = 180 ClickTime= 1 FastTaps = 0 EmulateMidButtonTime = 100 VertScrollDelta = 100 HorizScrollDelta = 100 MinSpeed = 0.09 MaxSpeed = 0.18 AccelFactor = 0.0015 EdgeMotionMinZ = 30 EdgeMotionMaxZ = 160 EdgeMotionMinSpeed = 1 EdgeMotionMaxSpeed = 1 EdgeMotionUseAlways = 0 UpDownScrolling = 1 LeftRightScrolling = 1 UpDownRepeat = 1 LeftRightRepeat = 1 ScrollButtonRepeat = 0 TouchpadOff = 0 GuestMouseOff= 0 LockedDrags = 2 RTCornerButton = 3 RBCornerButton = 0 LTCornerButton = 0 LBCornerButton = 1 TapButton1 = 2 TapButton2 = 3 TapButton3 = 0 CircularScrolling= -1717986918 CircScrollDelta = 2.6497e-314 CircScrollTrigger= 0 CircularPad = 0 PalmDetect = 1 PalmMinWidth = 10 PalmMinZ = 0 CoastingSpeed= 0 but it still doesn't work. is there something wrong? thanks again, Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ping!
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:43:57 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: I note the abundance of choices in portage/net-ftp. What do I need? I'll just be moving files back and forth. I don't think security is an issue. Is ftp all I need? FTP is more than you need. scp will do the job with only SSH running, or you could export directories over NFS. If you use KDE, use fish://hostname/path in Konqueror to access remote directories. All you need is SSH running on the remote box. -- Neil Bothwick Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 18:48, Mauro Faccenda wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 18:21, Sergio Polini wrote: In the second section, your Option Device should be: Option Device/dev/input/mouse1 because of your /proc/bus/input/devices. my touchpad configuration it is almost the same as yours, and the device is right. another odd thing that I hadn't seen before sending the previous mail is that the buttons works (left, mid -- with vertical and horizontal scroll, and right). but the pad don't. i was thinking that maybe the pad is disabled so, i tried to use synclient to change it. i solved this problem just by unemerging ksynaptics. seems that when it were starting, the pad stops working... i think that it's were disabling it for no reason. []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 22:12, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? emilio I did not sync recently but (on my amd64 machine) emerge --pretend =kde-3.5.0 shows the package are still masked with keyword. which is quite sad - KDE 3.5.1 is out for ages! But the times, that gentoo was pretty actual in the stable tree are over. Is this so bad with gnome too? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Lilypond version
Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
I just put together an amd64 system with the following motherboard: ASRock 939NF4G-SATA2 http://www.asrock.com/product/product_939NF4G-SATA2.htm This mobo has an on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 that uses shared memory. Here is what the product specs say about the on board video: - Integrated NV44 graphics DX9.0 VGA - Pixel Shader 3.0 - Max. shared memory 128MB The system I replaced had a 64MB Geforce 3 Ti 500 that let me play Doom3 and other OpenGL games just fine. I was going to get a PCI-e based Nvidia, however I did not because I thought the on board GeForce 6100 would be at *least* as fast as my older Gefore 3. So I spent the money I saved from not buying a video card to upgrade to 2GB of dual channel DDR400. I am still building my gentoo system now, though I have fluxbox and X up and running. I am wondering if I messed something up because I am only getting about 1,700 fps on glxgears. My Gefore 3 Ti 500 would do 3,000+. glxinfo: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.3 Here is the nvidia stuff I have installed: eix -c nvidia media-video/nvidia-glx (1.0.8178): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries media-video/nvidia-kernel (1.0.8178-r3): Linux kernel module for the NVIDIA X11 driver Did I leave anything out that is needed for nvidia on an amd64? Or should I not expect anything more from the on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 even though it is running over PCI-e? Thanks, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:31 -0600 Mike Myers wrote: kashani wrote: THUFIR HAWAT wrote: The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 Depends entirely on what you installed, your CPU, your RAM, and half a dozen other things. I'd expect with X and KDE/Gnome that looks about right. If all your src is local (portage, stage3, and distfiles), you have dual CPU, lots of RAM, and are installing a stripped down build to be a server it takes just under two hours or so depending on the amount of software I need for that type of server. kashani If you do GRP packages, it's even faster than that. Immediately after I bought my laptop, I went to Denny's with it and an install CD and a package CD and had it installed before the battery died. And that's on a Pentium M 1.86Ghz and 512MB of RAM. It's all dependant on how you install it. I'll approx 11 hrs into a PIII-450, 256MB Ram install ... I started it before leaving for work this AM and it's chugging away. Perhaps it'll be done by the time the Father-Daughter dinner and soccer practice are done (in 4 hrs). Perhaps it'll be done by the time I head for work tomorrow. Perhaps it'll be 24 hrs like the initial posting. Only time will tell :- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
On 3/21/06, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. There's nothing stopping you from building from source, but Lilypond 2.5.2 is there, just not marked stable: lilypond-2.5.2 ~x86 Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? Something along the lines of this will enable you to emerge it... echo 'media-sound/lilypond ~x86' /etc/portage/package.keywords As to why it is masked, I don't know. 'man portage' has a lot of useful info, you should check it out Dave On 3/21/06, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(+) s+: a24 C++ UBL++ P L++ E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w O? M-- V? !PS !PE Y PGP- t++ 5++ X+ R+++ tv+ b++ DI D++ G e+ h-- r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] evolution mail client + IPOD (contacts,notes,calender)
Hi, I am using gtkpod 0.94 and evolution 2.4.2.1 and would like to sync my contacts/notes/Calendar with my ipod. The problem is that gtkpod requires the shell commands it'll use to sync to be set manually. Does anybody know how to make this work? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: send mail to gentoo-user locally
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:52:34PM +0100, Simon Kellett wrote: Mingfeng Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Postfix is installed in my local machine to deliver mails locally (mainly for sending me the system logs). Now my problem is: the mail sent out by postfix (sendmail) is always get rejected by the mailing lists, though I set my_hdr From: mfyang [EMAIL PROTECTED] in muttrc. Do you send outgoing mail via a smart host ? If not then is there somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED] that will authenticate you and the pass your email on ? Thank you, very useful information! Otherwise you will get blocked because you could be anyone, with any faked headers, especially if you are on dial-up. -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 23:44, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux The newest version of lilypond in portage is 2.5.2. It is still in testing i.e. ~ARCH. $ eix lilypond * media-sound/lilypond Available versions: 2.0.3 ~2.2.4 ~2.2.6 ~2.4.2 ~2.5.2 Installed: none Homepage:http://lilypond.org/ Description: GNU Music Typesetter Also you should search bugs.gentoo.org for the package before asking this kind of question. That would have brought you to this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97574 If you wish to use an ebuild that is not in portage have a look at this howto: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? eix lilypond * media-sound/lilypond Available versions: 2.0.3 ~2.2.4 ~2.2.6 ~2.4.2 ~2.5.2 2.7.9[2] ~2.7.27[2] Installed: none Homepage:http://lilypond.org/ Description: GNU Music Typesetter [1] /usr/local/portage [2] /usr/portage/local/layman/ecatmur So... still not up-to-date, /per se/, but there are more current versions in Portage (2.5.2), and development versions available in overlay, as well as on bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97574 They're just not the /stable/ (in terms of Portage) version, but they are available; you must be keyworded ARCH, so all you see is the last stable (as per Portage) version. You might consider keywording lilypond in /etc/portage/package.keywords to get the ~ARCH version (I'm ~x86, so don't know if the versions are the same/available for other ARCHes), or learning how to create a PORTDIR_OVERLAY (overlay directory tree). See /man portage/ for information on keywording a specific package; see http://gentoo-wiki.com/Portage_Overlay for information on overlay directories and a listing of sources (other than b.g.o) for 3rd party ebuilds (such as ecatmur's overlay, listed above). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: synaptics touchpad stop working after starting a gtk app
On 3/21/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mouse and my touchpah (HP Pavilion dv5078ea) work well. Perhaps you should look again at your xorg.conf. In my xorg.conf there are two InputDevice sections: No disagreement with what you said, but just to fill in a couple of holes: /dev/input/mouse1 may be correct. Also check for /dev/input/event1 (which is what I use). Also both pointer devices need to be listed in your ServerLayout section. Something like: Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Screen 0 LCD 0 0 InputDevicetouchpad CorePointer InputDeviceusbmouse InputDevicekeyboard CoreKeyboard EndSection If you have more trouble, I suggest posting your xorg.conf. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
I say... probably a week (if you make kde and other stuffs). I install in pIII 900 and take almost a week! Good luck ;) On 3/21/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:31 -0600 Mike Myers wrote: kashani wrote: THUFIR HAWAT wrote: The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 Depends entirely on what you installed, your CPU, your RAM, and half a dozen other things. I'd expect with X and KDE/Gnome that looks about right. If all your src is local (portage, stage3, and distfiles), you have dual CPU, lots of RAM, and are installing a stripped down build to be a server it takes just under two hours or so depending on the amount of software I need for that type of server. kashani If you do GRP packages, it's even faster than that. Immediately after I bought my laptop, I went to Denny's with it and an install CD and a package CD and had it installed before the battery died. And that's on a Pentium M 1.86Ghz and 512MB of RAM. It's all dependant on how you install it. I'll approx 11 hrs into a PIII-450, 256MB Ram install ... I started it before leaving for work this AM and it's chugging away. Perhaps it'll be done by the time the Father-Daughter dinner and soccer practice are done (in 4 hrs). Perhaps it'll be done by the time I head for work tomorrow. Perhaps it'll be 24 hrs like the initial posting. Only time will tell :- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Diogo B. Tridapalli -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Lilypond version
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? If you can install it manually, then perhaps you could also update the ebuild for this package following the guide? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
060321 Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? KDE 3.5.1 is in testing, ie stable upstream but ebuilds not fully tested. I've been using 3.5.1 since 060306 without any problems: simply make USE=~x86 for the packages you want. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] test
It's a simple test. Sorry for any inconvenience! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
search bugs.gentoo.org for ALL lilypond and you will see a number of bugs, including one referring to an ebuild for 2.7.0. You may also find the reason for later versions not being marked stable. The usual reason however is lack of developers. This aspect of gentoo is getting worse and worse. This is an observation. not a complaint. On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:44:21 -0300 Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
or, we can just do it the easy way: useradd -d /home/user_name user_name. On 3/21/06, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:32:42 + THUFIR HAWAT wrote: On 3/21/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. if you add the -m argument to useradd, it will create the directory and own it by the user being added. .. Ah, thanks all for responding :) -Thufir Big tip of the day: emerge superadduser then utilise superadduser instead of adduser -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Erik http://erikstotle.homelinux.org/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
On Mar 21, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:32:42 + THUFIR HAWAT wrote: On 3/21/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. if you add the -m argument to useradd, it will create the directory and own it by the user being added. .. Ah, thanks all for responding :) -Thufir Big tip of the day: emerge superadduser then utilise superadduser instead of adduser ah, hadn't heard of that one. on the other handuseradd -m works on solarisaixopenbsdredhatgentooetc, etc. you see my point. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: core packages for a dual-boot system
THUFIR HAWAT wrote: On 3/19/06, Robert Welz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Hi. You don't have to format your windows partition, you don't even toch it. Just format /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 and /dev/hda2 and install gentoo on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 as described in the handbook. When gentoo is installed completely you just edit grub.conf and you are fine: Add title Windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 and you can boot into Windows. Robert .. Thanks, Robert. Before doing anything, I just wanted to make sure that I have it right. localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf -n 1 default 0 2 timeout 30 3 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz 4 title=Gentoo Linux 5 root (hd0,1) 6 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4 7 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 localhost ~ # cat grub.conf -n 1 default 0 2 timeout 30 3 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz 4 title=Gentoo Linux 5 root (hd0,1) 6 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda4 7 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 8 9 title Windows 10rootnoverify (hd0,0) 11chainloader +1 localhost ~ # date Tue Mar 21 14:40:40 GMT 2006 localhost ~ # So, just replace /boot/grub/grub.conf with /root/grub.conf , yes? Yes, but make shure the menu menu.lst sybolic ling is pointing to grub (ls -s menu.lst grub.conf.) Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ping!
--- Franta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:43 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: Hi, Oops, lost the thread turning off dhcp end. Thanks to Neil. Both boxen can ping each other. Now to clear up a few loose ends: Why on the fresh(2.6.15) install does net.eth0 start automatically and the older(2.6.12) have to be started manually? Is this a bug or a feature? I note the abundance of choices in portage/net-ftp. What do I need? I'll just be moving files back and forth. I don't think security is an issue. Is ftp all I need? The 2.6.12(Sempron) will be the main machine, connected to the web via diallup. The 2.6.15(K6) I plan to use as a platform for micro develpt. emerge -pv ftp on the 2.6.12 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r3 +ssl 52 kB but the 2.6.15 adds the +ipv6 flag. Neither make.conf mentions it. Does the .15, AMD K6-2, know something I don't? -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi, I had issues on various packages after an emerge update too. I think it was a baselayout issue. Seems the new baselayout (dunno from what time on) doesn't handle kernels prior to 2.6.14 correctly. Downgrade your portage and see when all for kernel 2.6.12 starts working again. Just a thought Frank Well, I just finished sync'ing portage and immediately did an emerge -pv ftp and, sure enough, there was the +ipv6 flag from ipv6.org: IPv6 is short for Internet Protocol Version 6. IPv6 is the next generation protocol designed by the IETF to replace the current version Internet Protocol, IP Version 4 (IPv4). I don't see a date on the page. It was at the top of a google search list. You are using IPv4 from 64.228.98.50 It says, which is true. So, is this the bleeding edge? Anyway, I don't think I'll need ipv4 *or* -6 since this is just for pc-2-pc use. But now I'm wondering why the +ipv4 flag wasn't added to the emerge options for the earlier package... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how long does an install take on average?
This is a damnedly ridiculous conversation. My piece of string is 1.0 m long, how long is yours? On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:09:38 -0300 Diogo Tridapalli wrote: I say... probably a week (if you make kde and other stuffs). I install in pIII 900 and take almost a week! Good luck ;) On 3/21/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:31 -0600 Mike Myers wrote: kashani wrote: THUFIR HAWAT wrote: The times: start: March 20 2006 14:00:01 finish: March 21 2006 13:22:39 Depends entirely on what you installed, your CPU, your RAM, and half a dozen other things. I'd expect with X and KDE/Gnome that looks about right. If all your src is local (portage, stage3, and distfiles), you have dual CPU, lots of RAM, and are installing a stripped down build to be a server it takes just under two hours or so depending on the amount of software I need for that type of server. kashani If you do GRP packages, it's even faster than that. Immediately after I bought my laptop, I went to Denny's with it and an install CD and a package CD and had it installed before the battery died. And that's on a Pentium M 1.86Ghz and 512MB of RAM. It's all dependant on how you install it. I'll approx 11 hrs into a PIII-450, 256MB Ram install ... I started it before leaving for work this AM and it's chugging away. Perhaps it'll be done by the time the Father-Daughter dinner and soccer practice are done (in 4 hrs). Perhaps it'll be done by the time I head for work tomorrow. Perhaps it'll be 24 hrs like the initial posting. Only time will tell :- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Diogo B. Tridapalli -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Same setup different machine
Hello, I use gentoo for X11 and diskless clients (aswell as other things) and was just wondering if its possiable to make an existing server spit out a list of packages that are currently installed so i can copy to a new server and have it install everything without me having to go through spending lots of time running emerge lots of times. Thanks, Matt. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Same setup different machine
On 3/21/06, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I use gentoo for X11 and diskless clients (aswell as other things) and was just wondering if its possiable to make an existing server spit out a list of packages that are currently installed so i can copy to a new server and have it install everything without me having to go through spending lots of time running emerge lots of times. All packages installed by portage: (cd /var/db/pkg ; ls -d */*) But probably what you really want is /var/lib/portage/world. On a system with the same USE flags, keywords, masks and unmasks, emerging everything listed in world will result in the same set of packages installed. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ping!
Hi, ipv6 is a newer protocol that is meant to substitute the actual ipv4. IPV6 requires a specific hardware to run. Since the actual protocol is version 4 there is no need to include a specific flag for it. And my suggestion is, use -ipv6 since you probably doesn't have the hardware for it. The second point is, will you be using your FTP inside you private network or will it be available to the rest of the world?? If you intent to make it available to the rest of the world or just for you to use via internet, witch means you'll have to leave the FTP port opened, I really suggest you no to use FTP!! Use SCP (ssh) instead. Since it requires user authentication via a secure protocol. FTP is known to be a very big security danger! -- -- Luiz Carlos Guidolin Aluno de Mestrado Lab. de Física de Plasmas - TOKAMAK TCABR - IFUSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] (particular) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (USP) On 3/21/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Franta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:43 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: Hi, Oops, lost the thread turning off dhcp end. Thanks to Neil. Both boxen can ping each other. Now to clear up a few loose ends: Why on the fresh(2.6.15) install does net.eth0 start automatically and the older(2.6.12) have to be started manually? Is this a bug or a feature? I note the abundance of choices in portage/net-ftp. What do I need? I'll just be moving files back and forth. I don't think security is an issue. Is ftp all I need? The 2.6.12(Sempron) will be the main machine, connected to the web via diallup. The 2.6.15(K6) I plan to use as a platform for micro develpt. emerge -pv ftp on the 2.6.12 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r3 +ssl 52 kB but the 2.6.15 adds the +ipv6 flag. Neither make.conf mentions it. Does the .15, AMD K6-2, know something I don't? -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi, I had issues on various packages after an emerge update too. I think it was a baselayout issue. Seems the new baselayout (dunno from what time on) doesn't handle kernels prior to 2.6.14 correctly. Downgrade your portage and see when all for kernel 2.6.12 starts working again. Just a thought Frank Well, I just finished sync'ing portage and immediately did an emerge -pv ftp and, sure enough, there was the +ipv6 flag from ipv6.org: IPv6 is short for Internet Protocol Version 6. IPv6 is the next generation protocol designed by the IETF to replace the current version Internet Protocol, IP Version 4 (IPv4). I don't see a date on the page. It was at the top of a google search list. You are using IPv4 from 64.228.98.50 It says, which is true. So, is this the bleeding edge? Anyway, I don't think I'll need ipv4 *or* -6 since this is just for pc-2-pc use. But now I'm wondering why the +ipv4 flag wasn't added to the emerge options for the earlier package... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] addusr (gentoo v. fedora)
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:36:06 -0500, Erik Westenbroek wrote: or, we can just do it the easy way: useradd -d /home/user_name user_name. Except that still doesn't create the directory, which is what the OP wanted. In fact, the -d option is superfluous here, since /home/user_name is the default. You need -m to create the directory, whether -d is used or not. -- Neil Bothwick Do I BELIEVE in the Bible?! HELL man, I've SEEN one!!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Sylpheed Claws 2.0.0 IMAP
Greetings. I just upgraded to Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 and during the process my IMAP folder has vanished. The normal mail folder where all my POP accounts go is fine. All the configurations seem to have migrated without issue. I can check/send mail. I tried making a new IMAP account for my one IMAP email address and when I hit OK I got the message can not create folder. I have ~/.sylpheed-claws/imapcache/ and the sub folders which hold the email from this account, so the information isn't gone. Sylpheed seems to not be able to find and/or read it. I also checked permissions. I am the owner. Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you. Adrian -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
IPv6 (was: Re: [gentoo-user] ping!)
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 18:18, Luiz Carlos Guidolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] ping!': IPV6 requires a specific hardware to run. Blatantly and completely false. Any hardware that can transport ipv4 traffic can transport ipv6 traffic [1]. Routing tables may be larger (although for the backbone they are supposed to be /smaller/), but they will not /require/ additional hardware. For hardware switching/routing of IPv6 packets (so, this is a layer 3 [or above] switch/router?) well, of course hardware is required, but that doesn't mean you can't do IPv6 in software or firmware. You can join 6-bone today, as long as you have a public (even dynamic) ipv4 IP and a relatively recent kernel. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh [1] There are minor exceptions, but only in the case where hardware doesn't accept the larger minimum packet size. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
thank you all guys, how can I discover masked versions ? just on package site ? thanks again for atention, Allan On 3/21/06, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: search bugs.gentoo.org for ALL lilypond and you will see a number of bugs, including one referring to an ebuild for 2.7.0. You may also find the reason for later versions not being marked stable. The usual reason however is lack of developers. This aspect of gentoo is getting worse and worse. This is an observation. not a complaint. On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:44:21 -0300 Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi, I don't know where should I post this kind of message, but I need to use lilypond as one of my working tools. I got stunned when I saw today that lilypond version available at portage tree is 2.0.3 the latest stable version is 2.6.5 and 2.0.3 is extreme old. Is there a reason that lilypond version is not up to date and should I build myself ( without portage ) if I want to used it ? -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sun Java SDK and SCSL
I notice that, with an account, it's possible to, apparently, download the source code from Sun for Java. Does that, or could that, solve lotsa problems for portage, or not really? -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] why mplayer always set message to lanuage: zh_CN
Hi everybody: When I compile mplayer, it always says that Setting MPlayer messages to language: zh_CN But I want to set it to english, how can I do this? -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 16:40, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version': On Tuesday 21 March 2006 22:12, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? I did not sync recently but (on my amd64 machine) emerge --pretend =kde-3.5.0 shows the package are still masked with keyword. which is quite sad - KDE 3.5.1 is out for ages! The KDE team is a bunch of weenies. :P Seriously, I think they hold package releases (even point releases) in package.mask and ~ARCH too long. HOWEVER, they are provide (IIRC) both split and monolithic ebuilds, which is quite a bit of work to get completely right. But the times, that gentoo was pretty actual in the stable tree are over. You do realize the above sentence makes no freakin' sense, right? Is this so bad with gnome too? sarcasm What's gnome? /sarcasm -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sun Java SDK and SCSL
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 19:38, THUFIR HAWAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Sun Java SDK and SCSL': I notice that, with an account, it's possible to, apparently, download the source code from Sun for Java. IIRC, it's not all the source, just some of it. Does that, or could that, solve lotsa problems for portage, or not really? Maybe, probably not. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I leave anything out that is needed for nvidia on an amd64? Or should I not expect anything more from the on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 even though it is running over PCI-e? Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is going on on the bus. Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the newer 7600. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:19:37 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is going on on the bus. Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the newer 7600. Bob Thanks Bob. I didn't think there would be that much difference. The on-board NVidia is not any faster than the on-board Intel on my new laptop. I think the only difference is the NVidia supports DX9 which I don't care about. I thought I could save a few bucks... Oh well I guess I will have to listen to the wife when I tell her I need a video card : ) Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question
Hi, I have a printout of the 2005.1-handbook and I am going to install 2006.0. Now I am asking myself, whether I need to printout the new handbook or whether there are too less changes to do so. (x86, CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+ Dual Core) Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?
Hi, I am going to install Gentoo on my AMD64 X2 3800+ (Dual Core) based system (x86 not x64!). With make -j 4, which I could add to the make flags, compiling is a lot faster. But some packages may fail to compile. Is it possible to recover from an unsuccessful run of make -j 4 while emerging a packing without too much hassle and pain ? Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I have a printout of the 2005.1-handbook and I am going to install 2006.0. Now I am asking myself, whether I need to printout the new handbook or whether there are too less changes to do so. (x86, CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+ Dual Core) Kind regards, mcc You don't need to print anything out - the LiveCD has a text-based web browser available. Simply write down the URL to your handbook of choice, and fire up links. You can specify a site on the command line, or use the G button to enter an address from inside the browser. I recommend using Alt-F2 to switch to a second virtual terminal, so you can run links on that while performing your installation on the first. If you need live support, you can use the IRC client, irssi (although most IRC servers reject connections from root, so you'll need to make yourself a user first). To actually answer your question: there *should* be no major changes to the procedure. I don't remember whether the 2005.1 handbook details the GCC migration, but as far as I know 2006.0 comes with the new GCC-3.4 already, so you could skip that portion (revdep-rebuilding and so on). HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lilypond version
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:38:44 -0300 Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: thank you all guys, how can I discover masked versions ? just on package site ? thanks again for atention, Allan To reiterate: There are some masked versions in portage. To see all current versions available in portage I find eix is good: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix lilypond * media-sound/lilypond Available versions: 2.0.3 ~2.2.4 ~2.2.6 ~2.4.2 ~2.5.2 Installed: no Homepage:http://lilypond.org/ Description: GNU Music Typesetter you can see from that that there are 4 masked versions in portage. If you want a masked package you need to put the following in /etc/portage/package.keywords. media-sound/lilypond ~x86 If you want one of the later ebuilds from the bugs site you need to set up a portage overlay, which is covered in the gentoo wiki, as pointed to elsewhere in this thread. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:33:16 -0500 JimD wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:19:37 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is going on on the bus. Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the newer 7600. Bob Thanks Bob. I didn't think there would be that much difference. The on-board NVidia is not any faster than the on-board Intel on my new laptop. I think the only difference is the NVidia supports DX9 which I don't care about. I thought I could save a few bucks... Oh well I guess I will have to listen to the wife when I tell her I need a video card : ) Come off it, how often does she look inside the box? Pay cash so it doesn't ppear on the visa statement. Install it when she is out at whatever_it_is_that_women_do_when_they_go_to_the_movies_together. Destroy the box. Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question
If you are installing from the 2006.0 live cd you can see the handbook online as it boots to X with a web browser available. The handbook is on the CD in a number of formats. If you are installing in text mode, there is a text web browser available. Its big when printed, save some trees. On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:41:19 +0100 (CET) Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I have a printout of the 2005.1-handbook and I am going to install 2006.0. Now I am asking myself, whether I need to printout the new handbook or whether there are too less changes to do so. (x86, CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+ Dual Core) Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: IPv6 (was: Re: [gentoo-user] ping!)
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:37:23 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 18:18, Luiz Carlos Guidolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] ping!': IPV6 requires a specific hardware to run. Blatantly and completely false. Any hardware that can transport ipv4 traffic can transport ipv6 traffic [1]. Routing tables may be larger (although for the backbone they are supposed to be /smaller/), but they will not /require/ additional hardware. For hardware switching/routing of IPv6 packets (so, this is a layer 3 [or above] switch/router?) well, of course hardware is required, but that doesn't mean you can't do IPv6 in software or firmware. You can join 6-bone today, as long as you have a public (even dynamic) ipv4 IP and a relatively recent kernel. In fact when I first started gentoo (and it was a few years ago now) there was a gentoo ipv6 howto, which told you how to get connected to ipv6 via a couple of virtual providers (HeNET?), so I don't think that even a recent kernel was required. That was in 2.4 days. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why mplayer always set message to lanuage: zh_CN
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:40:59AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody: When I compile mplayer, it always says that Setting MPlayer messages to language: zh_CN But I want to set it to english, how can I do this? -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I already solved this problem. This is because I set LINGUAS=zh_CN in my /etc/make.conf file. I use the following to emerge mplayer: LINGUAS= emerge mplayer -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] alps touchpad problem
I use synaptics driver for my alps touchpad. Everything else works finely except one thing: my up scroll key scolls down and down up. How to solve it? -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:08:39 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come off it, how often does she look inside the box? Pay cash so it doesn't ppear on the visa statement. Install it when she is out at whatever_it_is_that_women_do_when_they_go_to_the_movies_together. Destroy the box. Well I have been married a little over 5 years. I let my wife manage the finances starting a few years ago. She knows how much money is in the bank down to a dime. If I tap-mac and get cash, I get the 3rd-degree of what was the money for, especially if I take out $100+ : ) I am afraid I am going to have to go the wuss route and ask the wifey-poo :) Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MOV to AVI
Thanks! Justin On 3/20/06, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 March 2006 09:37, Justin Hart wrote: Hey, I need to convert an MOV to an AVI... anybody have a way to do this? mencoder blabla.mov -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1000:vhq:vqmin=2:autoaspect -ffourcc DX50 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0:br=128 -o blabla.avi Uwe -- Why do consumers keep buying products they will live to curse? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:32:41 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have been married a little over 5 years. I let my wife manage the finances starting a few years ago. She knows how much money is in the bank down to a dime. If I tap-mac and get cash, I get the 3rd-degree of what was the money for, especially if I take out $100+ : ) Well, you could cut back on eating and save, say half your lunch money each day and stash it. Or switch to tea from *$ Lattes - Only $1.00 vs $3.50. It adds up pretty quick. I am afraid I am going to have to go the wuss route and ask the wifey-poo :) Don't do it. Trust me. You'll pay big time. That $100 will turn into $400 to $1,000 for her, plus a summer of chick flicks. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:43:56 +0100 (CET) Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | With make -j 4, which I could add to the make flags, compiling is a | lot faster. But some packages may fail to compile. You absolutely do not want to do make -j 4... The space matters. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 20:43, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?': I am going to install Gentoo on my AMD64 X2 3800+ (Dual Core) based system (x86 not x64!). Ugh. Do you use Solaris? I think Sun is the only company in the world calling amd64 x64. (Yes, they only call it x64 if it's amd64, if it's just EMT64 they call it EMT64.) This is gentoo, boy. 'Round here it's amd64 for profiles and keywords and x86_64 for C(HOST|BUILD|TARGET). ;) With make -j 4, which I could add to the make flags, compiling is a lot faster. But some packages may fail to compile. I /think/ you want '-j4' (no space). Unlike the VAST MAJORITY of command-line options -j REQUIRES juxtaposition to accept it's argument. (Heck, non-gnu utilities may or may not even accept juxtaposed parameters.) I suppose this is because -j has a meaning /without/ an argument which is basically -- run me completely out of filehandles spawning a ridiculous number of processes. If you are properly juxtaposing your parameter, the behavior you speak of is truly odd. I've been running -j5 for nearly a year now with few if any problems. The Gentoo developers are nice enough to filter out -j for packages that don't support it well. In any case, you can selectively disable parallel compiles for a particular emerge with MAKEOPTS=-j1 before the command like: MAKEOPTS=-j1 emerge sys-libs/glibc Changing the number of make jobs done in parallel won't (or /shouldn't/) affect what files are installed, so it's perfectly fine to has some packages installed -j1 and some -j4. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alps touchpad problem
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:26:47 +0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use synaptics driver for my alps touchpad. Everything else works finely except one thing: my up scroll key scolls down and down up. How to solve it? What entry do you have in you xorg.conf file? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question
From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:10:36 +1200 Hi, short last question (before the next one :O) I downloaded -- since I want to /install/ gentoo the iso under /gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/installcd which are called install-x86-minimal-2006.0.iso (50862080 bytes) and all three stages for x86. You are talking about the livecd... Did I something wrong? Keep hacking! mcc If you are installing from the 2006.0 live cd you can see the handbook online as it boots to X with a web browser available. The handbook is on the CD in a number of formats. If you are installing in text mode, there is a text web browser available. Its big when printed, save some trees. On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:41:19 +0100 (CET) Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I have a printout of the 2005.1-handbook and I am going to install 2006.0. Now I am asking myself, whether I need to printout the new handbook or whether there are too less changes to do so. (x86, CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+ Dual Core) Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DGT chess boards anyone?
Just on the off chance that anyone has actually encountered the beasts - do they work with Linux at all?A link to this fairly neat thing is http://www.dgtprojects.com/eboard.htm You connect them through a USB/serial cable to a computer for transmission of the moves made on the board. Thus you can use them to relay games from a tournament onto the Internet in real-time (common usage). Regards,Martin S
Re: [gentoo-user] To be printed or not to be printed -- that is the question
You are talking about the livecd... There is a livecd at gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/ This livecd starts X and then you can bring up a web browser if you feel the need. -Jeremy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
Hemmann, Volker Armin schrieb: Is this so bad with gnome too? Yes. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
On 21 March 2006 22:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? You did an emerge --sync in beforehand, didn't you? Uwe -- Why do consumers keep buying products they will live to curse? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ping!
Luiz Carlos Guidolin wrote: ipv4. IPV6 requires a specific hardware to run. No, it doesn't. Alexander Skwar -- If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of car payments. -- Earl Wilson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: With make -j 4, which I could add to the make flags, compiling is a lot faster. But some packages may fail to compile. No, packages should not fail to compile. If they do, it's either a bug in the package itself or at least in the ebuild and you should file a bug. Is it possible to recover from an unsuccessful run of make -j 4 while emerging a packing without too much hassle and pain ? MAKEOPTS= emerge -1 $broken_package Alexander Skwar -- Linux: Where do you want to GO... Oh, I'm already there! -- Ewout Stam -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DGT chess boards anyone?
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 05:36, Martin S wrote: Just on the off chance that anyone has actually encountered the beasts - do they work with Linux at all? A link to this fairly neat thing is http://www.dgtprojects.com/eboard.htm You connect them through a USB/serial cable to a computer for transmission of the moves made on the board. Thus you can use them to relay games from a tournament onto the Internet in real-time (common usage). Regards, Martin S Haven't tried it, but I found this with google: http://theorie.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~arwagner/chess/ -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl pgpnsCybvXQMR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 20:57 +, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: I've read http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Skype and it looks ok. Under fedora it never quite worked right, some sort of incompatability with xmms I suspect. Just sorta soliciting experiences with skype and gentoo :) No offence to the wiki-author, but I tend to do this first: $ emerge skype and see what happens. I've never had any issues and I've been using skype for ages. Of course, YMMV, which is where the wiki comes in :) -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] make -j 4 recoverable ?
Hi, On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 03:43 +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: With make -j 4, which I could add to the make flags, compiling is a lot faster. But some packages may fail to compile. an answer has already been posted (have to be quick round here :) but I thought I'd add: If the package fails with MAKEOPTS=-j4 but works with MAKEOPTS=-j1, then please file a bug. This way, the devs can either fix it, or force the offending ebuild to use -j1, so other people don't have the same problem. -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: bash scripting help requested. Quoting?
In the course of my job as a computer-fixer I am often asked to back up files from PCs on which Windows has crashed. In order to ensure that I get every file on the system (both c:\dave and c:\Documents and Settings\Dave\Local Settings\Application Data \obscure\path\to\important\set\of\mailboxes) and that I don't have to deal with files on the drive that Windows considers to be hidden or system I boot the machine to Linux (usually with a live CD) and take reassurance as the output `cp -rvf * /mnt/portable_hard-drive/ `scrolls down the screen. This does, however, result in a number of files directories which are very obviously not needed by the customer on his backup disk, so in order to remove these I mount the disk on another machine run a series of commands to remove these. I start with `find /path/to/ portable-drive -iname temporary internet files`, proceed to `find / path/to/portable-drive -iname temporary internet files -exec rm -rf \{} \;` and then make a number of other searches for stuff with different names. I would like to automate the above process by writing a bash script which will take all the possible find terms and amalgamate them; it should allow some flexibility, interaction and for me to edit the terms easily. Although I'm usually quite decent at writing Bash scripts, I'm stuck at the first hurdle: $ cat foo.sh #!/bin/bash UNNEEDED_FILES=pagefile.sys temp 'Temporary Internet Files' for file in $UNNEEDED_FILES do echo I\'ll do stuff to look for $file done $ ./foo.sh I'll do stuff to look for pagefile.sys temp 'Temporary Internet Files' $ cat bar.sh #!/bin/bash UNNEEDED_FILES=pagefile.sys temp 'Temporary Internet Files' for file in $UNNEEDED_FILES do echo I\'ll do stuff to look for $file done $ ./bar.sh I'll do stuff to look for pagefile.sys I'll do stuff to look for temp I'll do stuff to look for 'Temporary I'll do stuff to look for Internet I'll do stuff to look for Files' I'm afraid quoting really is my Achilles' proverbial in Bash but I've had quite a furtle with this can't seem to get it to do what I want. All the variables, such as the definition of $UNNEEDED_FILES should remain within the script itself and the output should be: $ ./windowcleaner.sh I'll do stuff to look for pagefile.sys I'll do stuff to look for temp I'll do stuff to look for 'Temporary Internet Files' TIA for any assistance or advice, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list