Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Alexander Skwar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 May 2006 02:41 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Samuel Baldwin wrote:
  Alexander Skwar wrote:

  It provides a nice
  change of pace, so that way, when you're running a terminal in X, it
  doesn't look exactly like the regular shell.

 Well - a terminal is something to work with. And this has to
 be functional and not provide a change of pace.
 
 Totally.  That's why I push YaKuake.

Do you happen to know if there's something like those Quake shells
for Gnome as well? It really sounds interesting!

 My text color is black, as my background is white, which is, BTW,
 the best to read for the majority of people (if you're not handicapped,
 that is). That's so, because the contrast between the text and the
 background cannot be higher than with black on white (or white on
 black).
 
 You're using a CRT and a desktop, no doubt. 

You're wrong. I was writing that when I was at home, where I've
got a notebook and a LCD. I've got no CRT at home anymore.

But actually, I don't use bright white (eg. rgb(255,255,255)),
but something that's a bit less bright.

At work, at a CRT, I use bright white though.

  I don't think there's any setting that 
 is best,

Well, yes, you're right. There are settings which are certainly very
bad, but a best for all - hm, you're right, such a setting might
not exist, even for normal non-handicapped people.

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[gentoo-user] artsd Error

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Rieß
Hi

recently i merged amarok to see what´s the big deal about it.
But after the merge the CPU usage raised to 100% caused by artsd an then
an errormessage pops up:

error - artsmessage
Sound server fatal error:
cpu overload, aborting

After klicking OK the CPU usage raises again and the window pops up
again and so on and on.

It didn´t help to unmerge amarok and some kde-artsd-packages (i am using
GNOME).
It stopped after i unmerged artsd completely, but i need it for some
programs i use (mplayer, vlc...).

So i used revdep-rebuild to repair the lib and dependecies. But after that
the artsd pops up that kde-message-window again.

Google told to switch the soundsettings from OSS to ALSA. But that had no
effect here. (I switched this setting in the GNOME-multimedia-settings).

Has someone any ideas?

Thank you.

Norman



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[gentoo-user] livecd 2006 problems

2006-05-11 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi,

I recentlly downloaded livecd 2006 from one of Gentoo's mirrors (UV).
I checked it with its md5sum, and, as it was correct, I burned it.

But, when I try to boot with the livecd, it starts fine untill when it
tries to regenerate ld.so.cache, where it hangs... it stops at:
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache

I waited for few minuts (5 - 10) but it did not continue...

is there a way of skiping this step? is this a known bug? I looked for
some information in google and found nothig...

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Re: [gentoo-user] livecd 2006 problems

2006-05-11 Thread ted leslie

just did this today,
i didnt seem to see the   REgenerating notice when i did just the gentoo kernel,
but when i need to get my video card working better, and booted with the
gentoo-nofb
it did pause at Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache
but only for maybe 15 seconds, and this is on an old 1.2Ghz Duron,
and generally in my experiences on other live cd/dvd  ldconfig's usually dont 
take more then
10-15 seconds,
so it would seem as if something is wrong with the environment you are using.
try  gentoo boot, instead of  gentoo-nofb, if in fact that is what your doing.

you checked you md5sum of your ISO image,
but did you check the MD5SUM of the cd/dvd itself, maybe you got a bad burn?
I'd just burn it again, and try it again, to be sure.

-tl

On Thu, 11 May 2006 10:24:03 +0200
Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I recentlly downloaded livecd 2006 from one of Gentoo's mirrors (UV).
 I checked it with its md5sum, and, as it was correct, I burned it.
 
 But, when I try to boot with the livecd, it starts fine untill when it
 tries to regenerate ld.so.cache, where it hangs... it stops at:
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache
 
 I waited for few minuts (5 - 10) but it did not continue...
 
 is there a way of skiping this step? is this a known bug? I looked for
 some information in google and found nothig...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] artsd Error

2006-05-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 May 2006 10:18:34 +0200 (CEST), Norman Rieß wrote:

 It stopped after i unmerged artsd completely, but i need it for some
 programs i use (mplayer, vlc...).

Add -arts to your USE flags and do emerge -uavDN world. Then you can
remove aRts. This CPU overload thing seems quite commonplace, removing
aRts, even when using a KDE desktop, is the best way to avoid it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] livecd 2006 problems

2006-05-11 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 11 May 2006 04:47:26 -0400
ted leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 just did this today,
 i didnt seem to see the   REgenerating notice when i did just the
 gentoo kernel, but when i need to get my video card working better,
 and booted with the gentoo-nofb
Well, my first boot what the default one... later I tried with all
no_param options...

 it did pause at Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache
 but only for maybe 15 seconds, and this is on an old 1.2Ghz Duron,
 and generally in my experiences on other live cd/dvd  ldconfig's
 usually dont take more then 10-15 seconds,
I promise u that it hanged for few minuts, more than five, less than
10, but too much for a livecd...

 so it would seem as if something is wrong with the environment you
 are using. try  gentoo boot, instead of  gentoo-nofb, if in fact that
 is what your doing.
will do right now.
 
 you checked you md5sum of your ISO image,
 but did you check the MD5SUM of the cd/dvd itself, maybe you got a
 bad burn? I'd just burn it again, and try it again, to be sure.
you're right! I forgot to do it 
 -tl
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Re: [gentoo-user] artsd Error

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Rieß
 On Thu, 11 May 2006 10:18:34 +0200 (CEST), Norman Rieß wrote:

 It stopped after i unmerged artsd completely, but i need it for some
 programs i use (mplayer, vlc...).

 Add -arts to your USE flags and do emerge -uavDN world. Then you can
 remove aRts. This CPU overload thing seems quite commonplace, removing
 aRts, even when using a KDE desktop, is the best way to avoid it.


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Thank you... i will do that.
What does artsd and why is it installed?

Norman

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help with NAT

2006-05-11 Thread Alexander Kirillov

I have been having trouble forwarding packets using iptables on my
Gentoo box. I am no iptables expert.

I connect to the internet using rp-pppoe. I use firestarter for
firewalling. Yesterday I installed VMware and chose host only
networking between the VMs. vmnet0 was bound to 192.168.128.1 and the
rest of the subnet being 192.168.128.0/24.

As should be obvious by now, I need to forward packets from ppp0 to
vmnet0 and allow outbound packets as well.


Add
net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 1
to 
/etc/sysctl.conf

and apply the setting by issuing
sysctl -p
as root.

Issue the command:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING \
-o ppp0 \
--source 192.168.128.0/24 \
-j MASQUERADE
also as root.

You may also want to issue:
iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT \
-p tcp \
--tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN \
-j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
and possibly
iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT \
-p tcp \
--tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN \
-j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
as root to help control packet fragmentation.

I believe the iptables init script should handle saving/restoring these 
rules on reboot.


I have NO IDEA how to add these iptables rules to firestarter.


You may also try to uncomment CLAMPMSS=1412 in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf
instead to see if this works with firestarter
connection sharing settings.
And you may try shorewall on your gateway/router
as an alternative to firestarter.

HTH,
Sasha

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Re: [gentoo-user] artsd Error

2006-05-11 Thread Jerônimo Backes
The solution is simple: Don't use arts. You can also open the 
configuration panel of Amarok and in the Engine section, select Alsa 
as output plugin (or maybe esd, as you use gnome)




Hi

recently i merged amarok to see what´s the big deal about it.
But after the merge the CPU usage raised to 100% caused by artsd an then
an errormessage pops up:

error - artsmessage
Sound server fatal error:
cpu overload, aborting

  




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Re: [gentoo-user] livecd 2006 problems

2006-05-11 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 11 May 2006 11:03:28 +0200
Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 11 May 2006 04:47:26 -0400
 ted leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  just did this today,
  i didnt seem to see the   REgenerating notice when i did just the
  gentoo kernel, but when i need to get my video card working better,
  and booted with the gentoo-nofb
 Well, my first boot what the default one... later I tried with all
 no_param options...
I tried it again, with gentoo kernel with no params, and it hangs...

I'll download iso again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] artsd Error

2006-05-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 May 2006 11:51:07 +0200 (CEST), Norman Rieß wrote:

 Thank you... i will do that.
 What does artsd and why is it installed?

It is the KDE sound daemon, esd performs a similar task for GNOME. Sound
daemons are a way for more than one application to be able to use the
sound  device, even if it doesn't support hardware mixing, so a program
alert can beep when you are listening to music. ALSA now supports mixing
out of the box, so sound daemons are largely redundant.


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[gentoo-user] remote access to emails

2006-05-11 Thread Martins Steinbergs
Hi,

Can you hint me on this? I have setup reading emails following way - fetchmail 
gathers emails from 3 servers to ~/.maildir then using Kmail i read them and 
all messages are stored under ~/Mail in maildir format.
All I want is remote acces to messages in ~/.maildir and ~/Mail . I was trying 
VNCclient but due to slow network it isnt acceptible. Now I'm trying to setup 
etpan but I got segmentation fault when trying to add storage in ~/Mail tree.
So, I would like to know what console mail reader will work for this kind of 
setup? Can I acomplish this with setting up webmail or what is your setup 
design to read emails and accesss them remotely.

I run gentoo ~amd64. Remote boxes are windows.

m

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Jones
Bo Andresen wrote on 10/05/06 12:55:
For some strange reason, on my system OpenOffice seems to need the
locale set to utf8 to work properly with international keyboard layouts.
Without it, the ' and  keys are dead,  working only with AltGr pressed.

I don't understand why, but since I changed my locale to en_US.utf8, the
quote keys and Open Office work perfectly.

 Does this not work for you (# means run as root, $ means run as user)?
 # localedef -i en_GB -f ISO-8859-15 en_GB.ISO-8859-15
 $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2

The LC_ALL command above did not work, giving the following error messages:

I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale en_GB.ISO-8859-15
Qt: Locales not supported on X server

Checked out my defined locales with locale -a

C
en_GB
en_GB.iso885915
en_GB.utf8
en_US
en_US.iso885915
en_US.utf8
POSIX

LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine.

In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in
OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does
needs a local other the C or POSIX.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 Problems

2006-05-11 Thread Barny M
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Then why do we see zoom here?

Sorry zoom is actually cont. For some reasons I good the word zoom
in here :-(


 Also, be /very/ careful with upgrading LVM / device-mapper. 

Sure ;-)

Back to my last question. Any thoughts how to get this fixed without
remote hand (liveCD) only console ?

Thanks

~Barny

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not working after emerge world

2006-05-11 Thread Goran Dubajic

Thanks guys!

I actually don't use wireless and so I didn't see that the problem is
there! It actually didn't find the wireless network card and so the
usual network card was at eth0... And of course I only had eth1 in the
default run level.

The network is working again!

Thanks a lot!!!
Goran.

On 5/9/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Goran Dubajic wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I am running Gentoo on Toshiba M45-S369 laptop, with unstable x1. When
 I did emerge world and carelessly etc-update (most of the cfg
 files were for x11)  and try to boot my laptop today,  I got message
 that eth1 is not found (eth0 is wireless)
 Today I tried to recompile the kernel but it did not help...
 Any suggestions?

 Best wishes,
 Goran.

What module do you use for eth1?  Is it loaded?  Does your wireless
work?  Do you use dhcp for eth1?  Post a little more info about how you
had it setup when it worked and then we can work backwards from there

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]

2006-05-11 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 11 May 2006 12:53, Dave Jones wrote:
  $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2

 The LC_ALL command above did not work, giving the following error messages:

 I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale en_GB.ISO-8859-15
 Qt: Locales not supported on X server

 Checked out my defined locales with locale -a
[SNIP]
 LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine.

 In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in
 OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does
 needs a local other the C or POSIX.

Which is what I stated on the 4th of May. :) But en_GB.ISO-8859-15 works for 
me too even though locale -a report en_GB.iso885915 on my computer too. I 
guess that depends on the version of glibc.. Anyway nice to know it works for 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Jones
Bo Andresen wrote on 11/05/06 13:17:
LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine.

In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in
OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does
needs a local other the C or POSIX.

 Which is what I stated on the 4th of May. :) But en_GB.ISO-8859-15 works for 
 me too even though locale -a report en_GB.iso885915 on my computer too. I 
 guess that depends on the version of glibc.. Anyway nice to know it works for 
 you now. :)

I'm using glibc-2.3.6-r3 (stable branch).  Your statement on May 4 was
correct, and believe me, I'm very glad that the problem is solved here!

Pawel has not reported back from my last suggestion of trying to use the
us_intl keyboard layout.  It would be nice if that solved his problems
with his Polish locale/keyboard too.

I still find it strange that OOo is the only application I have which
needs a locale other than C or POSIX defined.

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[gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/wireless ignoring dhcp setting

2006-05-11 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,

net.wlan0 seems to be ignoring my dhcp settings! In
my /etc/conf.d/wireless file I have:

key_acco2=------xx enc open
config_acco2=( dhcp )
dhcpcd_acco2=-t 10 -m 0
preferred_aps=(acco2)

and yet `route` shows:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG2000   00 wlan0

when I kill dhcpcd and start it manually (with the -m 0):
`dhcpcd -t 10 -m 0 wlan0`

route now shows:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 wlan0

which implies that net.wlan0 is ignoring my -m 0 setting.

Am I doing it right? I think I've got the right file, but I'm not sure.

any help would be appreciated,
thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] reiserfs troubles

2006-05-11 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 14 April 2006 14:30, John Jolet wrote:
 as the others said, start digging a grave for this drive.  Had a  
 drive doing the same thing on  a production box for a few months,  
 phbs waited till it just died to order the replacement.  these kinds  
 of errors are warning signs of impending doom.

Just to follow up on this one. It did last a couple of weeks before I really 
started digging into this. It has turned out that you and Volker Armin were 
right. I never was able to backup that particular partition 
(containing /, /usr, /tmp, /opt, /var, /etc) since even dd if=/dev/hda6 gave 
up after a while reporting an I/O error. All other partitions, however, are 
backed up properly, and nothing that could not be replaced was on that 
partition.

At present I have tried reiserfsck --badblocks bad.txt  with 
both --fix-fixable and --rebuild-tree. --fix-fixable told me to 
run --rebuild-tree and --rebuild-tree failed leaving the partition 
unmountable. I also tried dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda6 which failed after a 
while. I finally tried formatting the partition with NTFS just to see if 
Windoze handles this better. Formatting it worked fine, scandisk returned no 
errors and I could copy 1,5 GB of data to the partition before it failed with 
a hardware error... In other words it doesn't. ;)

Also during all those attempts the Current_Pending_Sectors reported by 
S.M.A.R.T. has grown from 39 to now 102..

So the result is that I have used another partition for my system since last 
friday and that the drive will be replaced next monday. Since that other 
partition is way smaller than the one I used to use and because it is such a 
short time, I thought I'd take the opportunity to try another distribution 
i.e. Kubuntu Dabber (beta) with KDE 3.5.2. I must say that I am impressed by 
the present state of Kubuntu, but I also really miss the control that Gentoo 
provides so next monday I'll be installing Gentoo on a brand new and more 
partitioned harddrive. :) I also really miss something equivalent to 
eix/diff-eix/eix-sync for Debian based systems.

Hopefully (and probably) an insurance I have will pay for the replacement 
(except I'm going to purchase a bigger drive and will pay the difference).

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Re: [gentoo-user] App/plugin to play CD?

2006-05-11 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Jeremy,
on Monday, 2006-05-08 at 09:38:34, you wrote:
 I don't think you need that silly cable. My understanding was that the
 audio cable connected to you sound card was for when you wanted to
 listen to the cd and your computer was in low-power mode Either way, I
 have stopped installing that cable on new computers that I build and it
 has always worked fine for me.

Strictly speaking you don't need it, it will work just as well via
ATAPI/SCSI. It's just so convenient that a) you have a separate volume
control for the CD input on soundcards and b) playing a CD takes nothing
more than a handful of commands (and probably one a second or so to
update the play timer), the CD-ROM does everything else on its own.

cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-11 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Grant wrote:
 I set up my spare Gentoo box up as a wireless router for my new
 Verizon ADSL connection by following the instructions here:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
 
 My setup is a little different though because I'm using a madwifi card
 to provide wireless access.  Things are working really well, but I've
 got a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with.
 
 1. I can't actually get:
 
 config_eth0=adsl
 
 to work.  It always says: TIMED OUT.  I'm using:
 
 config_eth0=dhcp
 
 instead which times out half the time and half the time gets me the IP
 192.168.1.47 and provides connection to the Internet.  Isn't that
 weird?  Is it even checking my username/password that's in the
 ppp/pppoe config files?

Are you sure that you got a ADSL Modem or is it a Router. I'm sure they
have given you some instructions as to how to connect using Windows
machine. Can you quote them, as to how to set up the network in windows
machine. It'll clear a great deal of things. Also since the config_eth0
is dhcp I seriously doubt you got a Plain DSL Modem, I think they have
provided you a Router.

 2. I followed the instructions at the above link to set up iptables. When I 
 try to ssh into the router 
 from another machine on the network,
 I get Connection refused.  I'm guessing it's from the firewall.  Is
 there a good utility that will allow me to manage the firewall?

If you got this line,

  iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i ${WAN} -j ACCEPT

as suggested by the above link while setting up the firewall, then there
is no problem from the firewall. Are you sure you've started the ssh
server on your router? To start the ssh server, type this:

  /etc/init.d/sshd start

To start the ssh server everytime you boot the system, add ssh server to
default run level, like this,

  rc-update add ssh default

Hope this should make the ssh server accessible from the systems in your
network.

 3. (snip)

Sorry I got no idea about this stuff..

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Re: [gentoo-user] App/plugin to play CD?

2006-05-11 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Walter,
on Tuesday, 2006-05-09 at 20:34:29, you wrote:
   My idea of the right application doesn't install 75% of KDE or GNOME...

Good point! :) What about media-sound/cdplay? Doesn't seem to have any
dependencies at all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remote access to emails

2006-05-11 Thread Graham Murray
Martins Steinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, I would like to know what console mail reader will work for this kind of 
 setup? Can I acomplish this with setting up webmail or what is your setup 
 design to read emails and accesss them remotely.

What I do, and am doing now when reading and replying to your post, is
ssh into the system containing the mail and run the normal (gnus in my
case) console mail reader in the ssh session. For remote Windows
systems, you can use putty, natively, or openssh using cygwin.
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[gentoo-user] Gnome 2.14.1 vs KDE 3.5.2 for speech output - screenreader!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello All,

Any one that has used both gnome and kde and have used the
screenreaders that come with them what is your opion on the better
one?

Sincerely,
Christopher

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[gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello All,

Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
may figure out which one I would wather use.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:25 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

This is Unix, not Windows ;-) So yes, they can.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello Dirk,

Yeah I am glad its not windows :-) I had a feeling the answer was yes.

So after I do a emerge what do I need to do to make them play nice
together?  How do I start one over the other?  Now I type in either
startx or gdm for Gnome.

Thanks ahead of time for your help.

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/11/06, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:25 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

This is Unix, not Windows ;-) So yes, they can.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Philip Webb
060511 Christopher E wrote:
 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together
 and if so could someone please walk me through it
 so I may figure out which one I would wather use.

Your question is a bit confusing, but in general
you can have as many desktop/window managers installed as you want
 use any  1  of them as  when you wish. 
While you can't run the DE's simultaneously,
you can usually use eg Gnome-oriented apps on KDE  vice versa.

To get both Gnome  KDE, emerge the appropriate parts
-- I don't use Gnome itself, tho' I have much of it installed,
 KDE now comes in modules, some of which are essential, others a choice --
then edit  ~/.xinitrc  to start the one you want with 'startx'.
That's if you boot into a raw terminal: if you boot into X straight off,
then you need to get them listed in Kdm or Gdm or whatever you use.
I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc

  # PP 050123 : for KDE
  xscreensaver 
  startkde

  # PP 050619 : for Fluxbox
  xscreensaver 
  fluxbox

Normally, .xinitrc looks like the former, but if I want to use Fluxbox,
I can replace it with the latter by a simple copy;
you would have 'gnome' (or however you start Gnome) for 'fluxbox'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:51 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 So after I do a emerge what do I need to do to make them play nice
 together?  How do I start one over the other?  Now I type in either
 startx or gdm for Gnome.

Once you have emerged both, select which display manager to use (either gdm 
or kdm, it doesn't matter) in /etc/rc.conf.

At login time, both let you select which Desktop to start. Once started, you 
can both will happily run one or th others apps.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Jim

Nagatoro wrote:


Least:
Konsole + Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support.
Don't use the tabs since I like to be able to look at all (or many)
sessions at once, so tabs makes no sense to me.


The early versions of gnome-terminal were a little slow.  Have you tried 
gnome-terminal 2.14?  It is *really* fast now.  About 4x faster then 
xterm.  If you use antialiased fonts, xterm gets *real* slow.  xterm is 
more then 60x slower then gnome-terminal for scrolling a lot of 
antialiased text.


http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Zac Slade
On Thursday 11 May 2006 09:14, Philip Webb wrote:
 To get both Gnome  KDE, emerge the appropriate parts
 -- I don't use Gnome itself, tho' I have much of it installed,
  KDE now comes in modules, some of which are essential, others a choice --
 then edit  ~/.xinitrc  to start the one you want with 'startx'.
 That's if you boot into a raw terminal: if you boot into X straight off,
 then you need to get them listed in Kdm or Gdm or whatever you use.
 I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc

   # PP 050123 : for KDE
   xscreensaver 
   startkde

   # PP 050619 : for Fluxbox
   xscreensaver 
   fluxbox
There is no need to go through this trouble.  It's gentoo.  You can set the 
system default WM/DE in /etc/rc.conf.  To select a different WM/DE when you 
startx all you have to do is export XSESSION=name of wm.  Then you will 
have the window manager/desktop environment of your choice.  If you are 
already using kdm/gdm as a login manager then you have the ability to easily 
select what environment you want each time you login.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Nagatoro
Jim wrote:
 The early versions of gnome-terminal were a little slow.  Have you tried
 gnome-terminal 2.14?  It is *really* fast now.  About 4x faster then
 xterm.  If you use antialiased fonts, xterm gets *real* slow.  xterm is
 more then 60x slower then gnome-terminal for scrolling a lot of
 antialiased text.

I have, see other posts, and it's about 1/2 as fast as rxvt(-unicode).
But the deal breaker for me is the color support. It's not nearly as
good as xterm or rxvt(-unicode) (here my bash prompt that is set to some
nice colors is displayed as underlined in gnome-terminal and blinking in
konsole). And another realy nice feature of rxvt(-unicode) is that the
text rewraps if you change the window size.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Alexander Skwar

Nagatoro wrote:


I have, see other posts, and it's about 1/2 as fast as rxvt(-unicode).


Well, that might be so. But I seldom need *THAT* speed. I seldom have
that much text flying by...


But the deal breaker for me is the color support. It's not nearly as
good as xterm or rxvt(-unicode) (here my bash prompt that is set to some
nice colors is displayed as underlined in gnome-terminal and blinking in
konsole).


Could you maybe provide screenshots? If you don't have webspace
of your own, you could upload those to sites like http://imageshack.us/.

This would be great, as it's hard for me to understand what you
mean. As you can see on 
http://www.myimg.de/?img=Bildschirmfotoalexanderblattbe.png,
I've got colors in Gnome Terminal.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xrdb hangs login

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 07/05/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


xrdb is hung. Killing
off the process allows the kde login apps to complete and
everything else is
normal. I have re-emerged kdebase  but this does not fix the
 problem. xrdb is not even installed.


Isn't xrdb part of x11-base/xorg?

Remerge your X and pay attention to etc-update messing up your .Xdefaults.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Roy Wright

Philip Webb wrote:

Your question is a bit confusing, but in general
you can have as many desktop/window managers installed as you want
 use any  1  of them as  when you wish. 
While you can't run the DE's simultaneously,

you can usually use eg Gnome-oriented apps on KDE  vice versa.
  
Actually you can run both KDE and gnome at the same time.  Just log in 
using one
then start a new session using the other.  I just verified this using 
KDM, started my

normal KDE session, then from the Kicker menu, choose Switch User, Start New
Session then choose the gnome session type from KDM and logged in.  Now can
switch between the two using ctrl-alt-F7/ctrl-alt-F8.

Have fun,
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[gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello All,

What should I do after I do a emerge of gcc and glibc vers in subject line?

I have also when doing that emerged told it to do kde and gnome so
both of them will be at the latest versions in the tree that are
~amd64.

X 7 modular is already on the system and appears to be working great.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] A couple projects on my laptop

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 09/05/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 9 May 2006 11:36:42 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:

 when I go to shut down the laptop, the shutdown command will not work
 from my regular user, I have to su to be able to shutdown -- I use
 fluxbox, and I know this works properly in gnome/kde,  I was just
 wondering if there was a way it could be made to work in fluxbox -- I
 don't mind opening a terminal and typing the command, I would, like to
 be able to avoid having to su though

sudo would seem the obvious solution. Add shutdown to /etc/sudoers for
your user, without a password, and use 'sudo shutdown...' to shutdown.
Use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, don't edit it directly.


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Just as Neil said, check the man pages for sudo and visudo (it's also
well explained in the wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Sudo_config ).

Then add this to your flux .menu:
=
[exec] (Shutdown) {sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now}
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get minimal portage-logs

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 10/05/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 9 May 2006 18:22:24 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

 In /etc/make.conf I have PORT_LOGDIR=/var/tmp/portage-logs

 This is great in that I can then read through the billions of .log
 files to see if there are any post install manual tasks I have to do.

 However, a good majority of them are just compilation output. I really
 don't need or care to see those -- especially if the compilation
 concluded sans errors.

 I just want the juicy ones. The ones that tell me to take further
 action.

There are two log files for each emerge, the smaller one contains the
juicy bits.

The latest portage, still in testing, has an option to save the relevant
messages to a log directory or email them to you. You can choose the
level of messages you receive; info, warn or error.


There's also enotice - although I think its deprecated?

A crude way of only checking the warning log files is by making a
judgment call on their size:
=
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage   18944 May  6 12:12 3799-rsync-2.6.8.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage   0 May  6 12:13 3800-rsync-2.6.0-r6.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage 270 May  6 12:13 3800-rsync-2.6.8.log
=

In the above example the last entry (270 bytes) is what you need to
read.  The first @ 18944 bytes is the compilation and make/install
output and the middle one would normally contain any error/warning
messages relevant to uninstalling the previous version.
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Re: [gentoo-user] System.map not found - unable to check symbols

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 10/05/06, Devon Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/10/06, Paul B. Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unless it has changed recently, the system I just installed last month
 actually looks for it in /usr/src/linux, not /boot. It still complains
 during boot even though I actually have one there, presumably it is
looking
 before filesystems are mounted.


Ugh, then it's a duet between /sbin/module-update and /sbin/rc. Looking in
/usr/src/linux is just plain wrong. If for any reason I build a kernel, but
don't install it, then it's not just looking for data from an unmounted
filesystem (/boot or /usr) but it's also looking for the *wrong* System.map.
I'm going to file a bug on this. I can imagine cases where this might leave
a system hosed.


I think the latest stable baselayout fixed this (i.e. I'm not getting
this error at boot time anymore).  It was reported some time ago:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104288

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[gentoo-user] Gnome does not want to start

2006-05-11 Thread Roberto Zandonati

Hi at all, after emerge xorg gnome does not want to start.
I do the login end nothig appears.

any hint?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 11/05/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Philip Webb wrote:



normal KDE session, then from the Kicker menu, choose Switch User, Start New
Session then choose the gnome session type from KDM and logged in.  Now can
switch between the two using ctrl-alt-F7/ctrl-alt-F8.


Alternatively, if you use a lightweight DM like fluxbox, instead of
using xinitrc you can add this to your /etc/rc.conf:
==
XSESSION=fluxbox
==

Then add this to your ~/.xsession:
==
exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox
==

Running startx from console will launch fluxbox and if you want to
launch KDE or Gnome then just type startkde from a terminal or
whatever one types to start gnome (never tried it because I do not use
Gnome).

PS.  Is /etc/rc.conf still in use?  I thought its been deprecated . . .
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[gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.2-r1 emerged failed.

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hi there,

Is there any one out there that knows what this means and how to fix it?

libtool: link: `/usr/lib64/libGL.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [kcm_info.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdebase-3.5.2-r1/work/kdebase-3.5.2/kcontrol/info'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdebase-3.5.2-r1/work/kdebase-3.5.2/kcontrol'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdebase-3.5.2-r1/work/kdebase-3.5.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1527:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 930:   Called src_compile
 kdebase-3.5.2-r1.ebuild, line 121:   Called kde_src_compile
 kde.eclass, line 120:   Called kde_src_compile 'all'
 kde.eclass, line 238:   Called kde_src_compile 'myconf' 'configure' 'make'
 kde.eclass, line 234:   Called die

!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.

Thanks ahead of time!

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 11/05/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, mine looks different:
 
 Section Files
 RgbPath  /usr/lib/X11/rgb

Is there such a file? On my system, there isn't.


Oops!  There's none on mine too!

# ls -la /usr/lib/X11/rgb
ls: /usr/lib/X11/rgb: No such file or directory


On the other hand theres this:

# ls -la /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 17371 May  5 22:20 /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt


but my xorg.conf is as shown without the .txt ending.  How confusing . . .
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Philip Webb
060511 Zac Slade wrote:
 On Thursday 11 May 2006 09:14, Philip Webb wrote:
 I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc
 There is no need to go through this trouble.
 To select a different WM/DE when you startx
 all you have to do is export XSESSION=name of wm.

Well, everyone has their own way (smile).
'cp .xinitrc-fb .xinitrc' -- overwrite? -- 'y' -- 'startx'
seems simpler than fiddling with  /etc/rc.confXSESSION  ...

I avoid Kdm etc as creating an extra level of possible errors:
in much earlier times, I was caught once after changing a config file,
when Kdm produced an error  I couldn't login at all.
Yes today, I know what to do  it doesn't happen anyway,
but why create a potential hazard just to have a pretty box to pop up ?

But as I say, everyone has their preferred way of doing things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 Problems

2006-05-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 11 May 2006 06:06, Barny M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: 
[gentoo-user] LVM2 Problems':
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
  Then why do we see zoom here?

 Sorry zoom is actually cont. For some reasons I good the word zoom
 in here :-(

Ah, well if all the messages say cont it's probably not a metadata 
problem.  Is dm-mod actually getting loaded?  Also, you may be able to use 
lvdisplay to determine the major/minor numbers of the block device you 
need to create and then create it by hand.  That may or may not work.

  Also, be /very/ careful with upgrading LVM / device-mapper.

 Sure ;-)

 Back to my last question. Any thoughts how to get this fixed without
 remote hand (liveCD) only console ?

Without /usr portage isn't going to work, so any kernel/dm/lvm changes will 
have to be without portage -- and might leave a little bit of cruft on 
your system.

If you are fine with that... quickpkg or buildpkg dm/lvm on another 
computer (mkae sure you CFLAGS are appropriately generic), copy over, and 
just install with tar.  Or build a different kernel, copy over to boot, 
modify grub/re-run lilo and go.

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[gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread Nick Smith

has anyone written a script that checks for glsa security updates and
then has it auto emerge the packages it needs to get rid of the
security risk?  if so i would be very interested in looking at that
script.  Keeping 5 gentoo machines up to date security wise is
becoming very time consuming.

thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread Rasmus Andersen
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:35:46PM -0400, Nick Smith wrote:
 has anyone written a script that checks for glsa security updates and
 then has it auto emerge the packages it needs to get rid of the
 security risk?  if so i would be very interested in looking at that
 script.  Keeping 5 gentoo machines up to date security wise is
 becoming very time consuming.

There is glsa-check from gentoolkit. I never used it, though.

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[gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello All,

I am geting this at the top of my world update, here  is the command
and the very beggining of the out put:
Mr-Eyes ~ # emerge -aqDu --newuse world
[blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-090)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r1)
[blocks B ] dev-java/ant-tasks-1.6.5 (is blocking
dev-java/ant-core-1.6.5-r2)
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 [2.5.9]

What should I do any  help is greatful!

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-11 Thread znx

Remove the packages that are blocking.

emerge -C coldplug pam-login ant-tasks

Then emerge world again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/11/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am geting this at the top of my world update, here  is the command
and the very beggining of the out put:
Mr-Eyes ~ # emerge -aqDu --newuse world
[blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-090)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r1)
[blocks B ] dev-java/ant-tasks-1.6.5 (is blocking
dev-java/ant-core-1.6.5-r2)
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 [2.5.9]


The (almost always) correct answer here is to unmerge the blocking
application.  In this case:

emerge --unmerge coldplug pam-login ant-tasks

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Re: [gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:35:46 -0400, Nick Smith wrote:

 has anyone written a script that checks for glsa security updates and
 then has it auto emerge the packages it needs to get rid of the
 security risk?  if so i would be very interested in looking at that
 script.  Keeping 5 gentoo machines up to date security wise is
 becoming very time consuming.

I'm not sure that automatically emerging packages like that is a good
idea, especially if config changes are involved. I have a daily cron job
that mails the output of glsa-check to me, so I can decide for myself.


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Re: [gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread Nick Smith

On 5/11/06, Rasmus Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:35:46PM -0400, Nick Smith wrote:
 has anyone written a script that checks for glsa security updates and
 then has it auto emerge the packages it needs to get rid of the
 security risk?  if so i would be very interested in looking at that
 script.  Keeping 5 gentoo machines up to date security wise is
 becoming very time consuming.

There is glsa-check from gentoolkit. I never used it, though.

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thats what im talking about, has anyone ever wrote a script that would
automate the check and apply the updates as needed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-11 Thread Rasmus Andersen
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:58:30PM -0400, Christopher E wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I am geting this at the top of my world update, here  is the command
 and the very beggining of the out put:
 Mr-Eyes ~ # emerge -aqDu --newuse world
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-090)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r1)
 [blocks B ] dev-java/ant-tasks-1.6.5 (is blocking
 dev-java/ant-core-1.6.5-r2)
 [ebuild U ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 [2.5.9]
 
 What should I do any  help is greatful!

Generally, you should just unmerge the blocking packages (emerge -C).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:58:30 -0400, Christopher E wrote:

 I am geting this at the top of my world update, here  is the command
 and the very beggining of the out put:
 Mr-Eyes ~ # emerge -aqDu --newuse world
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-090)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking
 sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r1) [blocks B ] dev-java/ant-tasks-1.6.5
 (is blocking dev-java/ant-core-1.6.5-r2)
 [ebuild U ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 [2.5.9]
 
 What should I do any  help is greatful!

unmerge the blocking packages, coldplug, pam-login and ant-tasks. This
usually happens because the functionality the package provides is now
handled by something else that emerge world needs to bring it. This is
certainly the case with udev now handling coldplug's job.


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Re: [gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 05:09:41PM -0400, Nick Smith wrote:
 On 5/11/06, Rasmus Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:35:46PM -0400, Nick Smith wrote:
  has anyone written a script that checks for glsa security updates and
  then has it auto emerge the packages it needs to get rid of the
  security risk?  if so i would be very interested in looking at that
  script.  Keeping 5 gentoo machines up to date security wise is
  becoming very time consuming.
 
 There is glsa-check from gentoolkit. I never used it, though.
 
 Rasmus
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 thats what im talking about, has anyone ever wrote a script that would
 automate the check and apply the updates as needed?
 
from glsa-check --help
-f  --fix   : try to auto-apply this GLSA (experimental)

Use at your own risk. I wouln't think of applying anything without
seeing what it is first. YMMV

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-11 Thread Grant

 I set up my spare Gentoo box up as a wireless router for my new
 Verizon ADSL connection by following the instructions here:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml

 My setup is a little different though because I'm using a madwifi card
 to provide wireless access.  Things are working really well, but I've
 got a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with.

 1. I can't actually get:

 config_eth0=adsl

 to work.  It always says: TIMED OUT.  I'm using:

 config_eth0=dhcp

 instead which times out half the time and half the time gets me the IP
 192.168.1.47 and provides connection to the Internet.  Isn't that
 weird?  Is it even checking my username/password that's in the
 ppp/pppoe config files?

Are you sure that you got a ADSL Modem or is it a Router. I'm sure they
have given you some instructions as to how to connect using Windows
machine. Can you quote them, as to how to set up the network in windows
machine. It'll clear a great deal of things. Also since the config_eth0
is dhcp I seriously doubt you got a Plain DSL Modem, I think they have
provided you a Router.


The instructions are all on CD.  I reviewed them again and it's just
plug in the power cord, plug in the ethernet cable, plug in the phone
cord stuff.  I'm completely sure it's just a DSL modem.  It only has
one ethernet port and no wireless antenna.  What's could be going on
with this?  It seems really weird to me.  Is there another Gentoo ADSL
guide I should try to follow besides this one:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml


 2. I followed the instructions at the above link to set up iptables. When I 
try to ssh into the router
 from another machine on the network,
 I get Connection refused.  I'm guessing it's from the firewall.  Is
 there a good utility that will allow me to manage the firewall?

If you got this line,

  iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i ${WAN} -j ACCEPT

as suggested by the above link while setting up the firewall, then there
is no problem from the firewall. Are you sure you've started the ssh
server on your router? To start the ssh server, type this:

  /etc/init.d/sshd start

To start the ssh server everytime you boot the system, add ssh server to
default run level, like this,

  rc-update add ssh default

Hope this should make the ssh server accessible from the systems in your
network.


I had forgotten that I changed the ssh port to a high number.  Working
now.  Sorry about that.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.2-r1 emerged failed.

2006-05-11 Thread David Helstroom
Christopher E wrote:
 Hi there,

 Is there any one out there that knows what this means and how to fix it?

 libtool: link: `/usr/lib64/libGL.la' is not a valid libtool archive


Hi Chris,

Google search libGL.la is not a valid libtool archive. Second hit
should apply to you.

Cheers,


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[gentoo-user] setting up rsh and rlogin

2006-05-11 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.

Hello list,

I am setting up rsh and rlogin services between machines x1 and x2.
Following info on the web I go it working from x1 to x2. However when
going from x2 to x1 I get:

x2$ rsh x1 uptime
poll: protocol failure in circuit setup

x2$ rlogin x1
rcmd: x1: Connection reset by peer

I think I setup the configuration pretty symmetric between the machines
but don't seem to find the mistake.

Also on the log file in machine x1 I get the following when doing an rsh

May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: shell pid=7346
from=192.168.0.102
May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7346]: FAIL: shell address
May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: shell status=0 pid=7346
duration=0(sec)

and for rlogin

May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7349]: FAIL: login address
May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: login pid=7349
from=192.168.0.102
May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: login status=0 pid=7349
duration=0(sec)


Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] glsa-check script

2006-05-11 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 17:41 -0400, John J. Foster wrote:

 Use at your own risk. I wouln't think of applying anything without
 seeing what it is first. YMMV


I have a cron job that fires off hourly.

#!/bin/sh
glsa-check -f new 2/dev/null
[[ $? -eq 0 ]] || echo glsa-check: error

Never had a problem. Never got an error. It's been this way for months.
(My mileage doesn't vary ;-)

--- Vladimir

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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-11 Thread Alexander Skwar

Mick wrote:

On 11/05/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, mine looks different:
 
 Section Files
 RgbPath  /usr/lib/X11/rgb

Is there such a file? On my system, there isn't.



On the other hand theres this:

# ls -la /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 17371 May  5 22:20 /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt



Well:

[10:09:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ ls -la /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 10. Mai 10:07 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

So, all is fine on my system, sort of...


but my xorg.conf is as shown without the .txt ending.  How confusing . . .


Well, not really. The xorg.conf clearly states, that no extension
like .txt or .db is to be added in the xorg.conf:

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

Alexander Skwar
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[gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant master mode

2006-05-11 Thread Grant

Has anyone gotten master mode to work with wpa_supplicant?  I'm
trying to use wpa_supplicant on my wireless Gentoo router for WPA
encryption.  The farthest I've gotten is with the following
wpa_supplicant.conf:

###
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
ap_scan=2

network={
   ssid=mynetwork
   mode=1
   proto=WPA
   key_mgmt=WPA-NONE
   pairwise=NONE
   group=TKIP
   psk=mypassword
}
###

and the following /etc/conf.d/net:

###
config_ath0=192.168.0.1 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
modules_ath0=wpa_supplicant
wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi
###

Starting net.ath0 returns:

###
* Starting ath0
*   Starting wpa_supplicant on ath0 ... [ ok ]
* ath0 connected to mynetwork at 00:00:00:00:00:00
*   Bringing up ath0
* 192.168.0.1 [ ok ]
###

Subsequent 'iwlist ath0 scanning' from my laptop do not show
'mynetwork' and trying to connect to it just times out.

WEP via iwconfig is working great.  Is there a better way to set WPA
encryption on my Gentoo router?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting up rsh and rlogin

2006-05-11 Thread John Jolet

de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote:


Hello list,

I am setting up rsh and rlogin services between machines x1 and x2.
Following info on the web I go it working from x1 to x2. However when
going from x2 to x1 I get:

x2$ rsh x1 uptime
poll: protocol failure in circuit setup

x2$ rlogin x1
rcmd: x1: Connection reset by peer

I think I setup the configuration pretty symmetric between the machines
but don't seem to find the mistake.

Also on the log file in machine x1 I get the following when doing an rsh

May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: shell pid=7346
from=192.168.0.102
May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7346]: FAIL: shell address
May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: shell status=0 pid=7346
duration=0(sec)

and for rlogin

May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7349]: FAIL: login address
May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: login pid=7349
from=192.168.0.102
May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: login status=0 pid=7349
duration=0(sec)


Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

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of ssh?

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[gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

2006-05-11 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I don't know what I'm doing. It seems wise to admit that at the start.
Nobody needs to rub my nose in it that way.

I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and thunderbird
differing on the flag mozcalendar. It seemed like something I would
like, however, so I tried putting the flag into /etc/portage/package.keywords:

mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mozcalendar
www-client/mozilla-firefox mozcalendar

but the subsequent emerge shows that this does not avoid the situation: notice
that TB has +moscalendar, but FB has -mozcalendar.[ebuild
R ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.8 -debug
+gnome* +ipv6 +ldap +mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint
0 kB
[ebuild R ]
www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 -debug +gnome* +ipv6 +java
-mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama -xprint
0 kB

Call me confused...


--Kevin O'Gorman


Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

2006-05-11 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and
 thunderbird differing on the flag mozcalendar.  It seemed like
 something I would like, however, so I tried putting the flag into
 /etc/portage/package.keywords:

 mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mozcalendar
 www-client/mozilla-firefox mozcalendar

They should go into /etc/portage/package.use.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 11 May 2006 16:46, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)':
 The instructions are all on CD.  I reviewed them again and it's just
 plug in the power cord, plug in the ethernet cable, plug in the phone
 cord stuff.  I'm completely sure it's just a DSL modem.

If that's all you have to do, it's definitely a router.  It's a rather 
trivial one, since it just translates packets from one side to the other 
and does some minor bookkeeping, but it's a router.  A xDSL modem would 
require authentication to be set up.

In your case, all you need to do is configure your Gentoo system for DHCP.  
You might want to use a longer timeout though.  It can take a little while 
for the xDSL router to negotiate the connection.

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml

This document is for setting up a Gentoo box to /be/ a router, IIRC.  If 
that's the case, it's not something you need for now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-11 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 11 May 2006 18:02, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  On 11/05/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Well, mine looks different:
   
   Section Files
   RgbPath  /usr/lib/X11/rgb
 
  Is there such a file? On my system, there isn't.
 
  On the other hand theres this:
  
  # ls -la /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
  -r--r--r-- 1 root root 17371 May  5 22:20 /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
  

 Well:

 [10:09:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ ls -la /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 10. Mai 10:07 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

 So, all is fine on my system, sort of...

  but my xorg.conf is as shown without the .txt ending.  How confusing . .
  .

 Well, not really. The xorg.conf clearly states, that no extension
 like .txt or .db is to be added in the xorg.conf:

 # The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
 # file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
 # no need to change the default.


Is this an Xorg 7.0 installation?? Did you also include x11-apps/rgb??


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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-11 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 11 May 2006 14:53, Christopher E wrote:
 Hello All,

 What should I do after I do a emerge of gcc and glibc vers in subject line?

 I have also when doing that emerged told it to do kde and gnome so
 both of them will be at the latest versions in the tree that are
 ~amd64.

 X 7 modular is already on the system and appears to be working great.

 Sincerely,
 Christopher

I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and glibc... I 
did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up with two emerge -e 
world commands...

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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/11/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,

What should I do after I do a emerge of gcc and glibc vers in subject line?


What versions are you upgrading from?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/11/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and glibc... I
did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up with two emerge -e
world commands...


Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...

-Richard

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RE: [gentoo-user] setting up rsh and rlogin

2006-05-11 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:41 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] setting up rsh and rlogin
 
 de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 
 I am setting up rsh and rlogin services between machines x1 and x2.
 Following info on the web I go it working from x1 to x2. However when
 going from x2 to x1 I get:
 
 x2$ rsh x1 uptime
 poll: protocol failure in circuit setup
 
 x2$ rlogin x1
 rcmd: x1: Connection reset by peer
 
 I think I setup the configuration pretty symmetric between the
machines
 but don't seem to find the mistake.
 
 Also on the log file in machine x1 I get the following when doing an
rsh
 
 May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: shell pid=7346
 from=192.168.0.102
 May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7346]: FAIL: shell address
 May 11 17:50:50 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: shell status=0 pid=7346
 duration=0(sec)
 
 and for rlogin
 
 May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7349]: FAIL: login address
 May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: START: login pid=7349
 from=192.168.0.102
 May 11 17:52:16 x1 xinetd[7279]: EXIT: login status=0 pid=7349
 duration=0(sec)
 
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 --
 Valmor
 
 
 
 you don't mention here, but why in the world are you using rsh instead
 of ssh?

I knew I was going to get this question. These machines stay behind 2
firewalls and virtually have no connection to the outside network. So,
no reason to have secure internet service installed.

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[gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-11 Thread W.Kenworthy
What can I use for a compressed file system?  I am looking at setting up
a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into.
Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I
want to do a whole system backup that so far is 2:1 compressed via
tar.bzip2.  I am thinking of using dirvish into a compressed loopback
mount - but how do I set up a compressed fs?

Squashfs, cloop and zisofs are readonly, I have looked at encfs (looks
nice), but it doesnt seem to compress, just encrypt and I dont want the
overhead, or need it.  e2compr looks a bit like abandonware - what else
is available?

BillK

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting up rsh and rlogin

2006-05-11 Thread Ryan Tandy

de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote:

I knew I was going to get this question. These machines stay behind 2
firewalls and virtually have no connection to the outside network. So,
no reason to have secure internet service installed.


OpenSSH is part of the system target, so it's installed anyway - you 
might as well use it. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage tree hosed?

2006-05-11 Thread Adrian
On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:51:57 -0300
Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

 There are alternative ways to update portage that are more suited to
 your dial-up connection.
 
 ### Extracted from
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153842
 
 Download a snapshot (you can find one in any gentoo mirror), and
 download the md5sum, move it to $PORTAGE_TMPDIR/emerge-webrsync and
 run emerge-webrsync, it will use those without downloading a new
 snapshot.
 
 Or, you can manually do the sync yourself. Extract the
 portage-snapshot into a directory, and then use the following command:
 
 rsync -av --progress --stats --delete --delete-after \
 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/packages' \
 --exclude='/local' . ${PORTDIR%%/}
 
 Either define PORTDIR, or replace that with the location of your
 portage tree (/usr/portage by default).
 
 ###
 
 Give it a try...

Oh, thank you.  I will try this over the weekend.  I still have had no
success with other tactics.  I'll let ya know how it goes.

Adrian


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Jed R. Mallen

On 5/11/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,

Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
may figure out which one I would wather use.


Install them both and if you use a graphical login (gdm is my choice),
you can choose which wm/de you want to go in for that session via a
menu.

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[gentoo-user] wine CVS does not find freetype on amd64

2006-05-11 Thread Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov

(This is not about any wine ebuild)
(I am not compiling wine in a 32bit chroot)

During the compilation of latest wine release from the CVS repository,
I get the following warning message at the completion of the
./configure script:

*** Warning: Freetype or Fontforge is missing.
*** Fonts will not be built. Dialog text may be invisible or unaligned.

I know for sure that my system has both freetype and fontforge installed:

[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/fontforge-20060408  +X +gif +jpeg +png +svg
+tiff +truetype +unicode 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/freetype-2.1.9-r1  -bindist -doc +zlib 0 kB

However, I have a feeling, based on configure's output:

http://plouj.sh.nu/configure.out

that wine isn't finding freetype or something related to it.

Of course, I can compile wine after this but like the warning hinted,
fonts are messed up. In my case, I see things like strange symbols
instead of _ [] X at the top right of each window. For example:

http://plouj.sh.nu/cdstomper1.png

I want to figure out what it is that wine is not finding or not liking
about my system. I looked a the configure script but I got lost
tracking what it does. All I could figure out is that it tries to run
'freetype-config --libs' to get a list of libs, which by the way
outputs the following:

 $ freetype-config --libs
-L/usr/lib64 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64 -lfreetype -lz

Here is how I aquired and configured this wine release:

$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wine
$ cvs login
$ cvs co -r Wine-0_9_12 -d wine-src wine
$ cd wine-0.9.13
$ cat build.sh
#!/bin/bash
CFLAGS=-m32
LDFLAGS=-L/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/ -L/emul/linux/x86/lib/ -L/usr/lib32/
./configure
$ ./build.sh

Can someone else try this on amd64 and let me know how it works?

Please direct me to a more appropriate mailing list if such exists.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-11 Thread Grant

 The instructions are all on CD.  I reviewed them again and it's just
 plug in the power cord, plug in the ethernet cable, plug in the phone
 cord stuff.  I'm completely sure it's just a DSL modem.

If that's all you have to do, it's definitely a router.  It's a rather
trivial one, since it just translates packets from one side to the other
and does some minor bookkeeping, but it's a router.  A xDSL modem would
require authentication to be set up.


Weird.


In your case, all you need to do is configure your Gentoo system for DHCP.
You might want to use a longer timeout though.  It can take a little while
for the xDSL router to negotiate the connection.


Exactly right.  I discovered that myself earlier today.


 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml

This document is for setting up a Gentoo box to /be/ a router, IIRC.  If
that's the case, it's not something you need for now.


I do need it if I want to connect my laptop to the Internet wirelessly
though.  I also want to be able to ssh into my network via the
Internet.  Will this modem/router make that impossible?  If so I think
I'll call Verizon about their 30-day money back guarantee.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:18:11 -0700
Grant wrote:

  I also want to be able to ssh into my network via the
 Internet.  Will this modem/router make that impossible?  If so I think
 I'll call Verizon about their 30-day money back guarantee.

As you haven't told us what the make  model of router/modem is, how the
hell do you expect an answer?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome does not want to start

2006-05-11 Thread Ilya Hegai

2006/5/11, Roberto Zandonati [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi at all, after emerge xorg gnome does not want to start.
I do the login end nothig appears.

any hint?


check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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