[gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) TIA, Wolfgang Liebich -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Help, iptables logging to current console
Walter Dnes wrote: The most recent change on my system was the upgrade to gcc 4.1.1, and the accompanying rebuild of system and world, a few days ago. It's due to the baselayout update. There's a typo in /etc/conf.d/rc that was fixed a few days ago. Change the following line: RC_DMESG_LOGLEVEL=1 to RC_DMESG_LEVEL=1 -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 08:09, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) eix -i I don't know if this is the official approved way, but it finds all 16 slots I know about on my machine. It's in app-portage/eix if you don't already have it. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Sharing a CUPS printer
* Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-19 02:43] : You said you have been trying paths like: ipp://lightning/ipp ipp://lightning/ipp/port1 Neither is correct [1]. If the printer is named HP on the server, the correct paths would be: ipp://lightning/printers/HP or http://lightning:631/ipp/HP -Richard Hmmm strange, I use ipp://host/printer and it works as well ... Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to get Java 1.3 SDK ebuilds...
Hi, From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:43:21 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: You can pull the ebuilds out of /var/db/pkg/ on your old system and put them in your local overlay. Be aware that /var/db/pkg only contains the ebuilds, not any other files needed from /usr/portage, such as patches, so this only works for a limited number of packages. Another idea - would it be a good idea to quickpkg the 1.3 JDKs on my OLD system (where they are installed) and move them over to the new system? But then I would not get updated - but as the ebuilds (and JAVA 1.3 general) are unmaintained anyways, what the hell :-) Comments? winmail.dat
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a CUPS printer
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 00:48, Mark Knecht wrote: At this point I believe I'm supposed to set up IPP printing on the remote machines but everything I've tried there results in messages about the printer not being found, not responding, not existing, etc. I'm telling CUPS that it's an IPP printer and trying addresses like: ipp://lightning/ipp ipp://lightning/ipp/port1 etc. I had this problem some time back and could not get it to work on two counts. Name resolution would not work (so you may want to change lightning with the IP address of your server); and the syntax given in the gui example was wrong. So, after some good advice from this list I changed mine to: http://192.168.0.3:631/printers/Compaq-HP where, 192.168.0.3:631 is the IP address and port where the server is listening at; Compaq-HP is the name I have given to the server; printers is . . . err, . . . not sure, I assume it is the list of printers set up on the server. Anyway, also don't forget to allow connections from your client(s) on your server and your server's firewall. If after setting it as suggested you still can't find your way through, please post back and I'll look deeper into it. -- Regards, Mick pgprYrTruKdec.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: What is up with the new domainname situation?
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:12:13 +0100, Mick wrote: /etc/issue sets the login output. A \o in there is replaced by the NIS domain, \O by the DNS domain. # cat /etc/issue This is \n.\O (\s \m \r) \t So, it should read my DNS domain name. But it doesn't. Unlike Alex's earlier example I do not need to set up DNS servers addresses, or other IP addresses as these are picked up by the dhcpcd server from my hardware router. Have you set the dns_domain in conf.d/net? i.e. as far as my laptop is concerned the router (192.168.0.1) is the dns server. Does your router set the domain correctly? What does hostname -d give? I'm afraid it gives nothing! It sounds like dns_domain is not set. -- Neil Bothwick Ralph's Observation - It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize that you are in a hurry. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get Java 1.3 SDK ebuilds...
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:02:43 +0200, Liebich, Wolfgang wrote: Be aware that /var/db/pkg only contains the ebuilds, not any other files needed from /usr/portage, such as patches, so this only works for a limited number of packages. Another idea - would it be a good idea to quickpkg the 1.3 JDKs on my OLD system (where they are installed) and move them over to the new system? But then I would not get updated - but as the ebuilds (and JAVA 1.3 general) are unmaintained anyways, what the hell :-) That should work if the two systems run equivalent CFLAGS and USE. Copy over the packages and ebuilds and install with emerge -k. -- Neil Bothwick This message has been cruelly tested on sweet little furry animals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
On 9/18/06, Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time- I have to clean it up :-)I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than oneversion is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-)Try dep from udept (from ecatmur's overlay). Use layman to get it:emerge -va laymanlayman -a ecatmuremerge -va udeptdep --help --David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
[gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?
Hi, I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN workstation (a Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor - I don't know more) with it. The PC has an Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which special settings do I need? TIA, Wolfgang Liebich -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via UniChrome Pro and Xorg
Statux wrote: I am building a system which has the Unichrome Pro IGP video chipset (Via P4M800 Northbridge) and I cannot for the life of me get the via driver for Xorg 7.x to work. You mean x11-drivers/xf86-video-via-0.1.33.2 ? It's far too old for the 800 chips. And openchrome doesn't do regular releases (see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147425) so if you want it working, you'll need to build from SVN. http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Compiling+the+source+code In fact, all I really need (as this system will be my mother's when I'm done with it) is a simple 2D display with 16bit color because she, most likely, will not be using anything accellerated Then simply use the vesa driver. At depth 16 it should work perfectly. 3D acceleration will not really work on the 800 chips anyway: the Mesa stuff for the unichrome is unmaintained and there is a bug in the textures code that trips up the 800s. Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:13:22 +0200 Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN workstation (a Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor - I don't know more) with it. The PC has an Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which special settings do I need? Alot of the specialized monitors (my experiance is with SGI machines) uses single sync monitors, which means they don't have a sync range like most monitors for PC's, but a single sync range hardlocked to the card in the machine the work with. You'll need to find out exactly which monitor it is .. find out what sync and refresh it is hardlinked with and then get your card to output signal in that sync and refresh otherwise you won't get it working. Please bear in mind, I have never worked on Sun monitors with PC's so can't vouch for how accurate this might be ... just going from previous experience with similar situation and what was the cause of it -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
On 9/19/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/06, Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) Try dep from udept (from ecatmur's overlay). Use layman to get it: emerge -va layman layman -a ecatmur emerge -va udept dep --help udept is in portage now, just emerge it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
2006/9/19, Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) try equery from app-portage/gentoolkit: $ equery l -d -- regards, Hegai Ilya -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
Thanks, I will try it with udept winmail.dat
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a CUPS printer
On 9/18/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/06, Sarpy Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Maybe port 631 will work here, I have it set to Listen *.631 Changed it to Listen *:631 and restarted CUPS on the server. SNIP On the client mahines you want to comment out the listen localhost:631 line in cupsd.conf. Then you want to make a file in /etc/cups called client.conf. Insert in it ServerName * Ah! OK, that makes sense. I changed it appropriately, restarted CUPS on the client machine and now I get this far: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lpq HP is ready no entries [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lpstat -a HP accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ So far this looks OK. However, if I go into the CUPS manager on the client and try to print a test page it's telling me the printer is not available. Any ideas? I guess you can print a test page from within the CUPS manager on the client? Thanks a lot for this much. It's helpful. I messed around some more with mine now and found out a few more things. I also added the following to the cupsd.conf on the print server machine. # Show shared printers on the local network. Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow 192.168.2.* BrowseAllow @LOCAL # Restrict access to the server... Location / Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow From 192.168.2.* /Location The 192.168.2.* is my local subnet I was trying to allow printing from. With a restart of the cups server on the machine with the printer that client machine saw the peinter no problem. I also now discovered that when I use the CUPS manager on the client machine itr just forwards me to the CUPS manager on the Server machine. Since in cupsd.conf I haven't allowed a client machine access to change anything I can't change any of the parameters of the CUPS manager but I am able to print a test page. I also finished setting up KDE and everything is now working fine on the client with the setup I have described. Sorry about forgetting to tell you about the other two lines I changed in cupsd.conf. Hope these changes help you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
2006/9/19, Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) try equery from app-portage/gentoolkit: $ equery l -d Thank you, that works as I need it! winmail.dat
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a CUPS printer
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:26:16 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 19 September 2006 00:48, Mark Knecht wrote: At this point I believe I'm supposed to set up IPP printing on the remote machines but everything I've tried there results in messages about the printer not being found, not responding, not existing, etc. I'm telling CUPS that it's an IPP printer and trying addresses like: ipp://lightning/ipp ipp://lightning/ipp/port1 etc. I had this problem some time back and could not get it to work on two counts. Name resolution would not work (so you may want to change lightning with the IP address of your server); and the syntax given in the gui example was wrong. So, after some good advice from this list I changed mine to: http://192.168.0.3:631/printers/Compaq-HP where, 192.168.0.3:631 is the IP address and port where the server is listening at; Compaq-HP is the name I have given to the server; printers is . . . err, . . . not sure, I assume it is the list of printers set up on the server. Anyway, also don't forget to allow connections from your client(s) on your server and your server's firewall. If after setting it as suggested you still can't find your way through, please post back and I'll look deeper into it. I have never got ipp:// to work, but http://server:631/printers/printername usually works for me. Incidentally here is a howto I wrote with printing from windows in mind, but it deals with permissions and the url to use: *nick searches for the url: Bugger, its on the server http://clug.org.nz, which is down right now. Go there tomorrow and search for wincups -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] permissions for a common folder
Hello! We have a file server, and there are a common directory for a group of a users. I set this common folder's permission to 2775 and that results that a newly created file or directory will have the same goup owner as the common dir. But the problem is, that if someone creates a file or a directory in this common folder, the permissions will be 644 or 755, and so the other users in the same group can't write that file or directory, only if the creator of the entry sets it manually to 664 or 775. Is there any way to tell the Linux to automatically set the rights to 664 or 775 in this common directory (and only in this)? This common dir is also shared with samba for the windows users, and in samba it is possible to set this. Thanks for the help in advance, Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ntpd suddenly dyin
Hi folks, I've seen my ntpd process is sometimes dying over night. To restart it, i have to remove the lockfile in /var/lib/init.d manually. This happens from time to time. Does anyone else have this problem ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: permissions for a common folder
Stefán István wrote: Is there any way to tell the Linux to automatically set the rights to 664 or 775 in this common directory (and only in this)? This is normally done by setting the umask to 002 instead of 022 for all users (in /etc/profile), and creating a separate primary group for every user with the same name as the user. Then all files and directories created by users will have 664 resp. 775 permissions. When creating files in normal directories, the files will have the private primary group of the user, and will therefore only be writable by the user. When creating files in directories with the SGID bit set, the group will be the same as the directory, and the file will be writable by all members of the group. This is the default strategy in RedHat distributions (or at least it was when I switched to Gentoo, around 9.0 or so). You might be able to get the same effect locally (i.e. only in your shared directory) by using POSIX ACLs. See 'man acl' for more info. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] permissions for a common folder
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 13:53, Stefán István wrote: We have a file server, and there are a common directory for a group of a users. I set this common folder's permission to 2775 and that results that a newly created file or directory will have the same goup owner as the common dir. But the problem is, that if someone creates a file or a directory in this common folder, the permissions will be 644 or 755, and so the other users in the same group can't write that file or directory, only if the creator of the entry sets it manually to 664 or 775. Is there any way to tell the Linux to automatically set the rights to 664 or 775 in this common directory (and only in this)? This common dir is also shared with samba for the windows users, and in samba it is possible to set this. Sorry, but it's not possible to do this with conventional Linux permissions or NFS. The permissions of a newly created file depend only on the hard-coded MODE (666 for files, 777 for directories) and the user's umask. So, either the users have to remember to set their umask, or use a different account with a correct umask to access that dir (you could try two accounts for each user with the same uid - it might work but I haven't tried it out myself), or have the user chmod each new file they make. Thsi question came up on another list recently, and some workarounds I thought up were variations on using cron, find and chmod. Maybe there's some way you can hook fam and call a script each time a file is newly created. But the easiest way is to simply export the filesystem in a way that does do what you want - samba. As long as the total number of connectiosn through samba for Linux and windows clients stays below some sane amount (I find 5-10 is usually about the maximum) the file server will cope ok. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] permissions for a common folder
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 01:53:13PM +0200, Stefán István wrote:
We have a file server, and there are a common directory for a group of a
users. I set this common folder's permission to 2775 and that results that a
newly created file or directory will have the same goup owner as the common
dir. But the problem is, that if someone creates a file or a directory in
this common folder, the permissions will be 644 or 755, and so the other
users in the same group can't write that file or directory, only if the
creator of the entry sets it manually to 664 or 775. Is there any way to tell
the Linux to automatically set the rights to 664 or 775 in this common
directory (and only in this)?
It depends on your setup, if you're using bash, you can subtitute cd
with a new function:
cd () {
if ; then
umask 0002
else
umask 0022
fi
command cd $@
}
Bye.
--
* Pillon Matteo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: What is up with the new domainname situation?
Neil Bothwick wrote: Have you set the dns_domain in conf.d/net? I have tried this and it does NOT work. I'm afraid it gives nothing! It sounds like dns_domain is not set. Considering that I have tried it ... I know it not to work, so I have little doubt that he tried it himself. This isn't hard to reproduce guys Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a LFS system with Portage
Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm not sure why you want to do this or what your line of reasoning is. A stage 1 gentoo install is very similar to building LFS, except that you don't have to type './configure make sudo make install' 300 times. Well, conceptually similar at least. The whole point of LFS is to do it by hand and see how it all works at an even lower level than gentoo provides. You could use portage to automate the LFS build process, but then you end up with essentially a clone of gentoo. I say this as someone who has built an LFS as a learning exercise then moved on to gentoo for pragmatic reasons. Perhaps if you explained why you want to try this and especially what you want to accomplish, then we can advise you better. My aim is to have the ability to regularly build and maintain completely customized Linux systems. I simply don't want to be dependent - at any stage - on the whims or habits of a distribution. While LFS allows me to build a completely customized Linux system, it takes, as you say, a lot of time and effort to build a single one. Also, it offers nothing in the sense of package-management. So, what I'm looking for is something to automate the LFS build-process and to do it under some system of package-management. Portage seemls likely to meet those needs. From what I read about stage1 and stage2, they both come as is, which is somewhat problematic for my needs (for examle, if I want to use one version of gcc instead of another). Even if stage1 is used 'out of the box', some mechanism should be in place in order to build a new system on a chroot environment, no? The ROOT variable is probably a major part of the solution, but is it enough? I've also found '/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh', which seems suspiciously relevant, but comes with little external documentation. Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list Nope. Asking that is exceptionally rude. I wade through 200+ messages per day looking for places I can assist others. The least you can do is subscribe to the list like everyone else (and how did you manage to post without a subscription?), and download the same looking for replies to your question. Besides, the answers you get might help someone else. I'm sorry that you find my request rude. I would rather not go through 200 messages every day if I could help it, and I personally don't find it too troublesome to add an address to the CC line. Replying to the list and having me as CC will obviously not prevent others to take place in the discussion or read it later on as reference. At any case, I would look in online archives to search for any messages which haven't reached me. Alon PS. Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with new glibc and libnss
On 9/18/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that's the right thing to do at this point. My guess is that llibmysqlclient.so will move to /lib along with every other library that might possibly be needed at boot time, and a symlink will appear in /usr/lib for it. Tried that too :) libmysqlclient, for instance, needs libcrypto and libssl. I could make it myself, but it would make it hell to maintain the upgrades. I think the right fix would be in glibc though. Thank you -- Bruno Lustosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lustosa.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend an HTML/CSS editor?
On 19 September 2006 04:38, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been writing a modest amount of HTML/XHTML by hand with vim for some time because a) MSWord results are just too ugly to countenance b) OOffice output, while better is still ugly and behaves badly around style sheets. c) I can. I'm about to write a bunch more, and I'm hoping there's a Linux product that works reasonably well with CSS style sheets. Anybody know of one. Free is good, cheap is acceptable. I would recommend Quanta Plus. It combines the advantages of an visual editor with full control over your HTML. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend an HTML/CSS editor?
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 19 September 2006 04:38, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've been writing a modest amount of HTML/XHTML by hand with vim for some time because a) MSWord results are just too ugly to countenance b) OOffice output, while better is still ugly and behaves badly around style sheets. c) I can. emerge -s bluefish :-D -Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via UniChrome Pro and Xorg
[snip] You mean x11-drivers/xf86-video-via-0.1.33.2 ? It's far too old for the 800 chips. And openchrome doesn't do regular releases (see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147425) so if you want it working, you'll need to build from SVN. Well that explains that. http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Compiling+the+source+code [snip] Then simply use the vesa driver. At depth 16 it should work perfectly. 3D acceleration will not really work on the 800 chips anyway: the Mesa stuff for the unichrome is unmaintained and there is a bug in the textures code that trips up the 800s. I was avoiding use of the vesa driver for some reason but I'll give it a try and see if I can get anywhere. Yeah, all my mother needs is a straight 2D environment. I'm not big on on-board video/audio/networking but for light use, it's ok. If she were to ever need something with more juice, I'd get a seperate 3D card anyway. Thanks. Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Hi folks, can someone with enough karma delete the person below from the list? I get that notification for each message I send. Funny enough, we are in the same country. Do others get it as well? Thanks! Uwe -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Date: 19 September 2006 16:51 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a CUPS printer
On 9/18/06, Sarpy Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far this looks OK. However, if I go into the CUPS manager on the client and try to print a test page it's telling me the printer is not available. Any ideas? I guess you can print a test page from within the CUPS manager on the client? I never tried to print a test page from the client CUPS manager, but I could print from the webbrowser which is what I was going for. I personally can't even get to the CUPS manager in the client machine since the Listen localhost:631 has been commented out so there is no manager to get to. Your seeing the printer though. That's a start. Actually it turned out to be enough. Since the printer was seen in the CUPS manager on the client machine it seems apps on that machine can print across the network. I didn't have to make any more changes to get it to work. The confusion I had was that when I access the CUPS page in Firefox on the client machine I thought I was managing something on that machine. It seems it's really just showing what's on the network (i this case) and a proxy for what is on the server. I'll look through the comments in the emails that follow this one to see if I can make any improvements but at least it's working. Thanks! - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
* Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-19 16:00] : Hi folks, can someone with enough karma delete the person below from the list? I get that notification for each message I send. Funny enough, we are in the same country. Do others get it as well? Thanks! Uwe Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes - I got one today as well ... Is it possible to ban this person so easily? Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
On 9/19/06, Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to ban this person so easily? bugs.gentoo.org is the right place to report this. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147673 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:40:20 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, can someone with enough karma delete the person below from the list? I get that notification for each message I send. Funny enough, we are in the same country. Do others get it as well? Yup. I got the bounce, too. -- Peter Wu Powered by GNU/Linux 2.6.17 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Using a SUN workstation monitor with a GENTOO linux PC?
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 11:13, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Hi, I've setup a new gentoo system. I plan to use the monitor of a SUN workstation (a Sun 40x30cm RGB monitor - I don't know more) with it. The PC has an Intel 945G/GZ Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Is it possible to use a SUN monitor with this graphics cars? Which special settings do I need? TIA, Wolfgang Liebich You may need a 13w3 to hd15 adapter. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.17-gentoo-r8, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Tue Sep 12 23:42:20 CEST 2006 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4408.84 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] adding user and limiting program availability
How to add user and limit program availability (even from the command line)? I would like my daughter to learn latex but if I give her access to my PC she will be using OpenOffice. Basically I only want here to use programs that I select/approve. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 11:46, Liebich, Wolfgang wrote: 2006/9/19, Wolfgang Liebich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have an older gentoo systen which accumulated some cruft over the time - I have to clean it up :-) I want to list all installed SLOTTED packages where more than one version is installed. The old (deprecated) qpkg had the option --dups. What is the new! shiny! way of doing that?:-) try equery from app-portage/gentoolkit: $ equery l -d Thank you, that works as I need it! Hmm, why do I have two gnupg's, can I umerge the earliest of them? = [I--] [ ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.5 (0) [I--] [ ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.9.20-r3 (1.9) = -- Regards, Mick pgp7fAZpYY1fJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a LFS system with Portage
On 9/19/06, Alon Keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm not sure why you want to do this or what your line of reasoning is. A stage 1 gentoo install is very similar to building LFS, except that you don't have to type './configure make sudo make install' 300 times. Well, conceptually similar at least. The whole point of LFS is to do it by hand and see how it all works at an even lower level than gentoo provides. You could use portage to automate the LFS build process, but then you end up with essentially a clone of gentoo. I say this as someone who has built an LFS as a learning exercise then moved on to gentoo for pragmatic reasons. Perhaps if you explained why you want to try this and especially what you want to accomplish, then we can advise you better. My aim is to have the ability to regularly build and maintain completely customized Linux systems. I simply don't want to be dependent - at any stage - on the whims or habits of a distribution. While LFS allows me to build a completely customized Linux system, it takes, as you say, a lot of time and effort to build a single one. Also, it offers nothing in the sense of package-management. So, what I'm looking for is something to automate the LFS build-process and to do it under some system of package-management. Portage seemls likely to meet those needs. ;) You described Gentoo! So I would suggest: Install Gentoo. Try it, you'll find that the whims or habits of a distribution in Gentoo means flexibility and choices, and that appears what you're looking for... From what I read about stage1 and stage2, they both come as is, which is somewhat problematic for my needs (for examle, if I want to use one version of gcc instead of another). Even if stage1 is used 'out of the box', some mechanism should be in place in order to build a new system on a chroot environment, no? With stage1, you build your system from scratch including bootstrap, in fact, having a stage3 rebuild will have the same effect, only that you'll have a running system while you compile... Stage1 provides a basic system, from what you'll start your own system. The ROOT variable is probably a major part of the solution, but is it enough? I've also found '/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh', which seems suspiciously relevant, but comes with little external documentation. What you need is simply portage, wich is the very heart of Gentoo, and you also want some sort of package management, wich is portage. From what you described, you want Gentoo... Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list Nope. Asking that is exceptionally rude. I wade through 200+ messages per day looking for places I can assist others. The least you can do is subscribe to the list like everyone else (and how did you manage to post without a subscription?), and download the same looking for replies to your question. Besides, the answers you get might help someone else. I'm sorry that you find my request rude. I would rather not go through 200 messages every day if I could help it, and I personally don't find it too troublesome to add an address to the CC line. Replying to the list and having me as CC will obviously not prevent others to take place in the discussion or read it later on as reference. At any case, I would look in online archives to search for any messages which haven't reached me. Alon PS. Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: What is up with the new domainname situation?
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 13:51, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: Have you set the dns_domain in conf.d/net? I have tried this and it does NOT work. Yes, I have made several attempts to set it up in the /etc/conf.d/net, inc.: dns_domain=STUDY dns_domain_lo=STUDY dns_domainname=STUDY dns_domain_name=STUDY domain_name=STUDY domainname=STUDY as well as: nis_domain=STUDY nis_domain_lo=STUDY nis_domain_name . . . . . . etc and then probably some other expletives that currently elude me. :p I'm afraid it gives nothing! It sounds like dns_domain is not set. Considering that I have tried it ... I know it not to work, so I have little doubt that he tried it himself. This isn't hard to reproduce guys Tom I seem to be at a loss as to how to set it up. Please tell me, should I have a /etc/conf.d/domainname under the current baselayout, or not. Could it be that this is causing confusion in my system? -- Regards, Mick pgp8zg5sfvgT4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a LFS system with Portage
On 9/19/06, Alon Keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My aim is to have the ability to regularly build and maintain completely customized Linux systems. This should be possible by using your own local portage tree (probably based initially on Gentoo's tree) that you update somewhat manually with ebuilds and eclasses as you want. Combined with pre-built binary packages, and a 'golden' portage configuration and world file, it should be relatively simple quick to stage a new system. If Gentoo's minimal installation CD and a stage1 install doesn't work for you, you can build your own release media with catalyst (no, it isn't just for rebuilding the toolchain). This _is_ going to require a solid understanding of how Gentoo/Portage works, but not necessarily how to write ebuilds/eclasses. You need to understand what we mean by portage tree, world file, use flags, profile, binary packages, etc. The best way to acquire this knowledge is to install and use Gentoo, daily, for something significant (like your desktop!). The ROOT variable is probably a major part of the solution, but is it enough? I've also found '/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh', which seems suspiciously relevant, but comes with little external documentation. bootstrap.sh _is_ for only rebuilding the toolchain. Probably not what you want at all The ROOT variable is used to install packages into a different (fex chroot) directory. It is usually used for things like cross-compilation environments where one wants to build binary packages for another system, although not always. The normal way of installing a new system in a chroot from a live system is to use the Knoppix Installation instructions [1]. -Richard [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap3 PS: list replies only please -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] hotplug/coldplug/init-script - net.eth0 is on when I don't want it on
Hi, For some reason my son's machine has started turning on net.eth0 recently. For the last few days it seems to turn on when he boots even though I'm not enabling it in rc-update. Granted, I was lazy and made them both 192.168.1.59 so that I wouldn't have any trouble finding him no matter which interface he was using, but what is starting net.eth0 if it's not enabled in rc-update? Is this coldplug or hotplug? Everything works fine when I just shut off net.eth0 by hand but I'm sure I shouldn't have to do that. How can I keep net.eth0 off unless I turn it on by hand? I am not loading forcedeth explicitly but it's getting loaded anyway. Thanks, Mark Sector9 ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 wlan0 loopback* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default LinkSys 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 default LinkSys 0.0.0.0 UG2000 00 wlan0 Sector9 ~ # Sector9 ~ # rc-update show --verbose alsasound | default bootmisc | boot checkfs | boot checkroot | boot clock | boot coldplug | boot consolefont | boot crypto-loop | cupsd | default esound | gpm | hdparm | hlds | hostname | boot hotplug | default keymaps | boot lircd | lircmd | local | default nonetwork localmount | boot modules | boot mysql | net.eth0 | net.lo | boot net.wlan0 | default netmount | default nscd | numlock | rmnologin | boot rsyncd | sshd | default syslog-ng | default urandom | boot vixie-cron | default xdm | default Sector9 ~ # Sector9 ~ # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop * Stopping eth0 * Bringing down eth0 * Shutting down eth0 ... [ ok ] Sector9 ~ # Sector9 ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 wlan0 loopback* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default LinkSys 0.0.0.0 UG2000 00 wlan0 Sector9 ~ # Sector9 ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by snd_seq40208 0 snd_seq_device 5708 1 snd_seq snd_pcm_oss32864 1 snd_mixer_oss 13568 1 snd_pcm_oss tulip 41696 0 forcedeth 22732 0 snd_hda_intel 13396 1 snd_hda_codec 124720 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm65224 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 17476 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd39332 8 snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 6752 2 snd snd_page_alloc 6856 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm nvidia 4543892 12 nvidia_agp 5404 0 agpgart24944 2 nvidia,nvidia_agp ndiswrapper 140048 0 Sector9 ~ # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hotplug/coldplug/init-script - net.eth0 is on when I don't want it on
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:40:30 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: How can I keep net.eth0 off unless I turn it on by hand? I am not loading forcedeth explicitly but it's getting loaded anyway. See the RC_PLUG_SERVICES section of /etc/conf.d/rc -- Neil Bothwick The truth shall make you free, but first it shall piss you off. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: hotplug/coldplug/init-script - net.eth0 is on when I don't want it on
Mark Knecht wrote: How can I keep net.eth0 off unless I turn it on by hand? I am not loading forcedeth explicitly but it's getting loaded anyway. Set the following variable in /etc/conf.d/rc: RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.* This will disable hotplugging for all network interfaces. If you only want to disable hotplugging for net.eth0, use the following: RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.eth0 HTH. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the preferred gentoo way to list all packages w/ multiple versions installed?
On 9/19/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, why do I have two gnupg's, can I umerge the earliest of them? = [I--] [ ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.5 (0) [I--] [ ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.9.20-r3 (1.9) = From the 1.9.20 release announcement[1]: - We are pleased to announce the availability of GnuPG 1.9.20 - the branch of GnuPG featuring the S/MIME protocol. You should consider using GnuPG 1.9 if you want to use the GPG-AGENT or GPGSM. The GPG-AGENT is also helpful when using the stable GPG version 1.4 or if you want to check out its ssh-agent replacement feature. GnuPG 1.9 is the current development version of GnuPG. Despite of that, most parts (in particular GPG-AGENT and GPGSM) are considered ready for production use. Please keep on using GnuPG 1.4.x for OpenPGP; 1.9 and 1.4 may - and actually should - be installed simultaneously. - [1] http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2005q4/000209.html -- ellotheth rimmwen * monjoy * -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xmms doesn't see mp4 plugin
Hi all, A couple of weeks ago xmms stopped recognizing m4a/mp4 files, and instead of playing them it just opened up the file dialogue, as it does with all files it doesn't recognize. Today I finally looked into why this may be happening. Now, as best as I can tell the way to enable this is to install faad2 with the xmms USE flag set, which I did have. Indeed, the needed plugins were in /usr/lib/xmms/Input/ Just for giggles, I re-emerged faad2, as the plugins were dated from before it stopped working, and it updated/rebuilt: /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmp4.so /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmp4.la /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmp4.a However, when looking at the input plugins tab in xmms preferences, they don't even show up. The Flac, Vorbis, cdaudio et al plugins in the same directory do show up. Does anyone have an idea here? Is it a faad2 bug, xmms bug? Am I missing something? Thanks, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly? I currently connect to multiple networks using a laptop with an ipw2200 wireless and a built in NIC consisting of: NIC, fixed IP NIC, DHCP NIC, DHCP and openvpn NIC, DHCP and CiscoVPN wireless with wpa/tkip wireless with wpa/tkip and openvpn wireless plain with openvpn wireless plain with CiscoVPN. all configs have common services like a caching bind server, zebedee and apache and various other services not normally seen on a laptop. These usually need restarting in order for the new config to take. and obviously more than one network of each type in some cases. It is wireless or NIC, not both at once. Currently I arrive at a site and run a script that copies in the config files for the needed configuration, and then restarts the needed services. This broke with the last baselayout changes - wierd things happen like zebedee running ok when the initscript is run from the commandline, but not from a script. So I reverted, but I am thinking I need to redesign the system or start making bug reports in order to use the latest changes. Also, is there an integrated way to plug in a network cable and have a config RELIABLY recognised and trigger the necessary actions? Its not a good look to arrive at lecture in front of 30-50 people and struggle to connect to the local network, which seems par for the course for gentoo! BillK -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] adding user and limiting program availability
Joseph wrote: How to add user and limit program availability (even from the command line)? I would like my daughter to learn latex but if I give her access to my PC she will be using OpenOffice. Basically I only want here to use programs that I select/approve. Don't. Your daughter must be free to use whatever software she likes. If you want her to use latex (and I'm a big fan of latex, I fully understand your concern), show her the great advantages of it. Show her how easy is formatting and other things and how clumsy it is on OO.org. She must see both, and come to the conclusion latex is just better. If she doesn't understand it soon (how old is she?), she will understand it later. OTOH having basic skills in using a word processor is always useful, today, no matter how bad WYSIWYG word processors can be. If you constrain her, she will just (1)hate you and (2)hate latex. No win. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms doesn't see mp4 plugin
quoth the Wolfgang Illmeyer: Am Mittwoch, 20. September 2006 00:57 schrieb darren kirby: /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmp4.so However, when looking at the input plugins tab in xmms preferences, they don't even show up. The Flac, Vorbis, cdaudio et al plugins in the same directory do show up. This is probably a broken dependency of the mp4 input plugin. Try running xmms from the command line or running ldd -r on libmp4.so to see what is missing. Hi Wolfgang, Thanks to your advice I got it working. Running ldd I get: undefined symbol: MP4GetTrackAudioType Which led me to this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123569 Which has been labled FIXED and RESOLVED, however, the current stable version of the faad2 ebuild has not applied the patch that fixes the issue, so I don't really see how the bug has been resolved... Anyway, I am now able to play m4a/mp4 files in xmms again. Thanks for the help, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
If I set the NIC to DHCP as you advise, you are implying that gentoo will handle the various fixed IP's, subnets, gateways and differing vpn schemes automaticly? How can it do that? Only some of the networks (only three in fact) use DHCP. ifplugd looks interesting - possibly the best I can do will be to use ifplugd to trigger if-up and if-up will have to contain the various add ons like the vpns and service restarting with functions to detect which to run where. No relief from the nightmare I am afraid ... BillK On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 01:05 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:58:11 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: Also, is there an integrated way to plug in a network cable and have a config RELIABLY recognised and trigger the necessary actions? Its not a good look to arrive at lecture in front of 30-50 people and struggle to connect to the local network, which seems par for the course for gentoo! emerge ifplugd, but don't try to configure it, Gentoo's networking scripts handle that automatically. Set your wired interface to use DHCP and it should set itself up automatically. If you want something else done when connecting or disconnecting the cable, such as shutting down wireless or restarting services, look at the preup/postup/predown/postdown functions in /etc/conf.d/net.example. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] libsdl checksum fails
Hi, libsdl seems to fail checksum...and i don't seem to be able to make it take the package from another mirror despite having different mirrors in make.conf ...it keeps going to http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz checking ebuild checksums ;-) checking auxfile checksums ;-) checking miscfile checksums ;-) checking SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/distfiles/SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 2796407 !!! Expected: 2796143 Thanks Kumar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a LFS system with Portage
On 9/19/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/06, Alon Keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My aim is to have the ability to regularly build and maintain completely customized Linux systems. This should be possible by using your own local portage tree (probably based initially on Gentoo's tree) that you update somewhat manually with ebuilds and eclasses as you want. Combined with pre-built binary packages, and a 'golden' portage configuration and world file, it should be relatively simple quick to stage a new system. This _is_ going to require a solid understanding of how Gentoo/Portage works, but not necessarily how to write ebuilds/eclasses. You need to understand what we mean by portage tree, world file, use flags, profile, binary packages, etc. The best way to acquire this knowledge is to install and use Gentoo, daily, for something significant (like your desktop!). Yes, I realize that deep understanding of Portage would obviously be required, as will writing ebuilds (and copying some of Gentoo's). The ROOT variable is probably a major part of the solution, but is it enough? I've also found '/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh', which seems suspiciously relevant, but comes with little external documentation. bootstrap.sh _is_ for only rebuilding the toolchain. Probably not what you want at all It's actually what I DO want. As I've previously explained, it would give me the control I need over the system. If Gentoo's minimal installation CD and a stage1 install doesn't work for you, you can build your own release media with catalyst (no, it isn't just for rebuilding the toolchain). Release media would be good, but I'd like to know how more about how Catalyst produces the toolchain. The ROOT variable is used to install packages into a different (fex chroot) directory. It is usually used for things like cross-compilation environments where one wants to build binary packages for another system, although not always. Cross-compilation is something I would like to be able to do. From what I've gathered so far, it looks llike it should be possible to build a complete customized toolchain with Portage, even if it'd require some tweaking; at the center of it being the ROOT env. variable and 'bootloader.sh'. Still, I wish I could get input from someone who's actually done such a thing. Alon PS. Please CC me your replies as I'm not subscribed to messages from this list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libsdl checksum fails
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 06:29, Kumar Golap wrote: libsdl seems to fail checksum...and i don't seem to be able to make it take the package from another mirror despite having different mirrors in make.conf ...it keeps going to http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz Next time please search bugzilla instead. You just needed to sync... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147253 -- Bo Andresen pgpuduOLuiV6I.pgp Description: PGP signature
