Re: [gentoo-user] sharing portage directories when dual booting x86 and amd64
At Fri, 25 May 2007 07:28:31 +0200 Roman Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will Briggs wrote: Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have a core 2 duo (dell 6400), which is currently running x86. I am thinking of setting up another partition and dual booting amd64. Not all Core 2 Duo's in 6400's are. I have a T2400 processor in my 6400 which is not em64t enabled. Not that I mind - plenty quick enough in 32-bit mode. That's not entirely true: _All_ Core 2 Duo processors have the 64bit instruction sets. Your T2400 is not a Core 2 Duo, it's a Core Duo. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2) Correct. I specifically purchased a core 2 duo, which I know is 64-bit capable. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
Due to issues with some of the software I am wanting to run, when it is run under the AMD64 bit version of Gentoo (one of which is Blender, which I hope will be properly stable soon), I am planning to run x86 Gentoo (With the i686 stage3) on an AMD64 processor. My question is this, If I enabel 64 bit support in the kernel, is that likely to cause any issues with running the 32bit compiled software? V/r RP3(SW) Burling Religious Ministries x4502
Re: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf?
On Thu, May 24, 2007 12:38 pm, Denis wrote: My aim is to build a fast, stable system for my computations, which ultimately brought me to another major decision: 32-bit or 64-bit... I run simulations which I write in C and numerical computations which I run in Mathematica (which has just released the 64-bit version). Would a 64-bit system significantly benefit these applications? If you are using a lot of memory in your computations, then the 64-bit environment will be much friendlier to you :) Also, if I understand correctly, you will get higher precision on floating point calculations (someone correct me if I am wrong here!) I also believe that the 64 bit processors are able to perform more instructions per second on average when executing 64 bit code vs. 32 bit code if I am not mistaken... -- Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Oh me of little faith... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VFS: Cannot open root device - kernel panic
On Thu, 24 May 2007 20:44:10 -0400, Denis wrote: I have an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard with an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 processor. One Seagate SATA drive. An IDE CD-RW. Pretty much all the controllers on the board are Intel. One concern I have - when I configure the kernel, I fail to see where libata option is for the SATA driver... I scoured the whole menuconfig a few times but for some reason get the feeling like there are some options missing or something. You probably need the AHCI driver with this board, if not the PIIX one. The output of lspci will help decide. You'll also need a driver for the PATA chipset for your CD drive to work. -- Neil Bothwick Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007 02:12:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is this, If I enabel 64 bit support in the kernel, You mean run a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit support. There's no such thing as a 32-bit kernel with 64-bit support (at least not in x86-land). is that likely to cause any issues with running the 32bit compiled software? No, it won't, but it's a little bit tricky to set up. You'll want to use an i686 stage3, and set ARCH to x86 or ~x86. Then, you'll have to install a cross compiler (and binutils, IIRC) and cross-compile your kernel. You could always just use a 32-bit kernel. Do you have 3G or more RAM or need to run 64-bit programs? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp0Ettis9NAS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Problem with Suspend-to-RAM and Virtual Consoles
I've got an interesting problem when attempting to Suspend-to-RAM (S3) and virtual consoles. I swear, three days ago it was working and I didn't change anything (I don't think) at least that would change how this works (i.e. kernel, drivers, whatever) With that said, here's my problem (and what I've tried): 1. If I initiate suspend-to-ram from a console itself, it suspends fine, resumes fine, but the screen is BLANK.I can type stuff, but for some reason when I reboot (i.e. typing reboot or Ctrl+Alt+Del, it freezes on some process and doesn't reboot -- I have to power cycle the computer by holding down the power button for 5 seconds). 2. If I initiate suspend-to-ram from X, it suspends fine, resumes fine and the X screen comes up. HOWEVER, if I then switch to a virtual console, it comes up blank. The same problem occurs when I reboot, however. 3. Suspend-to-disk works in both cases. And rebooting afterwards is also fine. To reiterate, I haven't changed anything that I believe to be low enough t cause problems with this... has anyone seen anything like it? I've tried things like adding acpi_sleep=s3_bios,s3_mode, etc to the kernel line in grub.conf, but that doesn't seem to be doing much. Attempting to blinding play with vbetool also doesn't do anything. Setting up the console in framebuffer mode also makes no difference. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. - Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
-Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:07 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo. On Friday 25 May 2007 02:12:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is this, If I enabel 64 bit support in the kernel, You mean run a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit support. There's no such thing as a 32-bit kernel with 64-bit support (at least not in x86-land). is that likely to cause any issues with running the 32bit compiled software? No, it won't, but it's a little bit tricky to set up. You'll want to use an i686 stage3, and set ARCH to x86 or ~x86. Then, you'll have to install a cross compiler (and binutils, IIRC) and cross-compile your kernel. You could always just use a 32-bit kernel. Do you have 3G or more RAM or need to run 64-bit programs? So, unless I need the upper memory support, it may be better for me to just not click the flag for 64bit memory support, and move on? This is on a laptop, and it is not a critical system (i.e. it is not going to require that I get those last few dredges of CPU time out of the system). The main things it will be used for until I build my next system is dataprocessing, and Pencil and Paper gaming. I plan to install a couple graphics related apps to mess with and practice with as well. :P I'm not exactly the average user, but I will be using it for average user level work, so it doesn't HAVE to have 64 bit support. :P From what I understand, the processor handles 32 bit emulation just fine. (It was running Windows XP fine until a runin with the emphamous Gentoo GTK installer.) :P I'm not blaming the software though. The Walkthrough, and the readme both warn that it is experimental. ^^;; Then there is the fact that I had just butted a 700MB CD, that loaded a compressed file system into 512MB of ram, and told it to load a GUI, and a GUI driven install system. *shrugs* Live and learn, and kick yourself when you do something stupid. :P ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf?
-Original Message- From: Randy Barlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:23 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf? Snip If you are using a lot of memory in your computations, then the 64-bit environment will be much friendlier to you :) Also, if I understand correctly, you will get higher precision on floating point calculations (someone correct me if I am wrong here!) I also believe that the 64 bit processors are able to perform more instructions per second on average when executing 64 bit code vs. 32 bit code if I am not mistaken... I am not sure, but that makes sense. If nothing else, things executed directly usually run more smoothly than those who are run through emulation. 64bit code on 64bit processor good... ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007 04:09:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, unless I need the upper memory support, it may be better for me to just not click the flag for 64bit memory support, and move on? IIRC, that's for PAE, which you definitely shouldn't use unless you have 4G of RAM or greater. Ticking that box doesn't make your kernel 64-bit though, anymore than supporting 64-bit file offsets makes a kernel 64-bit. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpD5BreX3tMd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sharing portage directories when dual booting x86 and amd64
On Thursday 24 May 2007 23:42:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote: In particular can I share * distfiles (DISTDIR) * logs (PORT_LOGDIR) Sure. * tmp (PORTAGE_TMPDIR) If you ever compile the same package at the same time that may not be such a good idea. Even if it works it may be confusing. Why not just make two subdirs in the same place and use one as PORTAGE_TMPDIR for each system..? -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
-Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:28 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo. On Friday 25 May 2007 04:09:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, unless I need the upper memory support, it may be better for me to just not click the flag for 64bit memory support, and move on? IIRC, that's for PAE, which you definitely shouldn't use unless you have 4G of RAM or greater. Ticking that box doesn't make your kernel 64-bit though, anymore than supporting 64-bit file offsets makes a kernel 64-bit. What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32 bit kernel? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007 04:53:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32 bit kernel? Use of 64-bit machine code [*], particularly instructions that make use of 64-bit native[**] registers[***]. * Defining this is more difficult, since that does not mean instruction requiring 64-bits to represent as many architectures have variable length instructions. ** Native is a difficult term to define, but I'm explicitly excluding the floating-point registers that have been 64-bit or 80-bit from my vague notion of native *** I guess this makes the Cell processor 128-bit? BTW, if the term register doesn't mean anything to you it's the fastest memory in your computer, closer to the ALU (etc.) than L1 cache, very small and expensive that are addressed differently than all other memory. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpSnyjmncIjE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32 bit kernel? Use of 64-bit machine code [*], particularly instructions that make use of 64-bit native[**] registers[***]. Is there any slowdown for the 64-bit set-up when it has to run 32-bit software? Aside from not having the 64-bit Flash for Firefox, are most popular packages in Gentoo portage 64-bit compatible? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
-Original Message- From: Denis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:32 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo. What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32 bit kernel? Use of 64-bit machine code [*], particularly instructions that make use of 64-bit native[**] registers[***]. Is there any slowdown for the 64-bit set-up when it has to run 32-bit software? Aside from not having the 64-bit Flash for Firefox, are most popular packages in Gentoo portage 64-bit compatible? -- A lot of the AMD64 packages are masked as unstable. There are a lot of stable packages, but there are enough unstable ones to be a pain. When things are masked, there is a reason. For instance, the reason that Blender is masked, is because it does messed up things to the save files in the AMD64 version. With any luck, by the time I build my next real machine, many of the issues will be resolved. :P AMD64 is a popular architecture, so it has a lot of people stomping bugs. ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Changing libaries
Hi! I've already asked this question on gentoo-user-de but I've got no - let's say - convenient answer. Therefore I'll try my luck here: Another user had some trouble because Kaffeine couldn't play .ogg-files. In the end we found out that he activated the necessary USE-flag and re-emerged xine-lib but Kaffeine kept using the old lib which was still in RAM, I presume. Naturally, the problem was solved when he rebooted but I wonder how I could achieve the effect without rebooting. Thanks in advance Florian Philipp pgpIgCsINzPLt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
Am Freitag 25 Mai 2007 14:31 schrieb Denis: What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32 bit kernel? Use of 64-bit machine code [*], particularly instructions that make use of 64-bit native[**] registers[***]. Is there any slowdown for the 64-bit set-up when it has to run 32-bit software? Aside from not having the 64-bit Flash for Firefox, are most popular packages in Gentoo portage 64-bit compatible? There is no additional slow down for AMD64 / EM64T since it's (simplified) just a normal 86 with some extra registers and instructions to handle them.* There are some annoyances (for example Google Earth doesn't start at the moment) but I don't miss anything else. And concerning flash: There are ways to work around it (somewhere in the wiki, look for an AMD64-Howto). * simplified pgpqC9Dpd2PEq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries
Hi, On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:19:30 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another user had some trouble because Kaffeine couldn't play .ogg-files. In the end we found out that he activated the necessary USE-flag and re-emerged xine-lib but Kaffeine kept using the old lib which was still in RAM, I presume. Nope, it might even be left on disk, at least as long as it is still referenced from open file handles. But it doesn't really matter if that library just is somewhere. It matters whether the (instance of the) application using it has still opened it. Naturally, the problem was solved when he rebooted but I wonder how I could achieve the effect without rebooting. Close Kaffeine. That might be difficult if Kaffeine somehow stays resident or has some Quick start facility (like kdeinit and stuff). Check ps output and use kill. At least, closing the user's session is enough (if that plugin isn't run by the desktop manager, then I'd suggest to kill X in order to close the DM's session as well). -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries
On Friday 25 May 2007, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Changing libaries': Another user had some trouble because Kaffeine couldn't play .ogg-files. In the end we found out that he activated the necessary USE-flag and re-emerged xine-lib but Kaffeine kept using the old lib which was still in RAM, I presume. Naturally, the problem was solved when he rebooted but I wonder how I could achieve the effect without rebooting. For most applications you simply have to restart the application. Next time the process starts perform dynamic linking, which accesses the filesystem and picks up the new library. KDE applications started under the standard KDE environment have dynamic linking done for them by kdeinit though, so shared libraries stay loaded (but possibly swapped out) persist for as long as the kdeinit process lives. So, you'll have to restart the kdeinit process, this usually involves logging out and logging back in, although kdm might (I don't think so, but might) require you to restart X. Alternatively, you might be able to get around this by prelinking, or at least telling KDE that things are prelinked (even if they aren't) I believe kdeinit drops this behavior if KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 or KDE_IS_PRELINKED=true is in the environment when kdeinit starts. You can NOT simply kill the kdeinit process unless you want KDE applications started by it to start mysteriously dying. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries
-Original Message- From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:20 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries Hi! I've already asked this question on gentoo-user-de but I've got no - let's say - convenient answer. Therefore I'll try my luck here: Another user had some trouble because Kaffeine couldn't play .ogg-files. In the end we found out that he activated the necessary USE-flag and re-emerged xine-lib but Kaffeine kept using the old lib which was still in RAM, I presume. Naturally, the problem was solved when he rebooted but I wonder how I could achieve the effect without rebooting. Thanks in advance Florian Philipp Try running as root, ~# ldconfig -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
-Original Message- From: Peter Alfredsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:55 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo. On Friday 25 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, the reason that Blender is masked, is because it does messed up things to the save files in the AMD64 version. http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-244/64-bits-supp ort/ ^Not anymore. Has this migrated it's way to the portage tree yet? I am not in a position to check. ^^;; -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries
Am Freitag 25 Mai 2007 15:39 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:20 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries Hi! I've already asked this question on gentoo-user-de but I've got no - let's say - convenient answer. Therefore I'll try my luck here: Another user had some trouble because Kaffeine couldn't play .ogg-files. In the end we found out that he activated the necessary USE-flag and re-emerged xine-lib but Kaffeine kept using the old lib which was still in RAM, I presume. Naturally, the problem was solved when he rebooted but I wonder how I could achieve the effect without rebooting. Thanks in advance Florian Philipp Try running as root, ~# ldconfig Thanks guys, I knew I could count on you! pgpElUZwRzFD0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, the reason that Blender is masked, is because it does messed up things to the save files in the AMD64 version. http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-244/64-bits-support/ ^Not anymore. -- /PA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Copy/Paste Functionality in Konsole
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 10:52 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: I have just recently switched over to KDE and started using Konsole, and I was wondering something. I really like the copy/paste functionality you find in the Linux console and in PuTTY where you just highlight the text you want to copy and when you release the mouse button, it is copied. Then, you can just right click to paste it into the input line. How would I engineer such functionality in Konsole? --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ GnuPG Public Key: http://www.danthehat.net/wp-content/uploads/public.asc You can do it with middle mouse buton. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error starting kde with kernels above 2.6.18
when I start kde as root, everything works fine On 5/24/07, Fabio A Correa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thiago, Thiago Lüttig wrote: saying, it cannot contact DCop Server or connect to the X server. I Could you please post the messages the console printed? Have you tried to startx as another user? As root? Could you please attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log and some info on your hardware? - -- Fabio A. Correa D. Physics Dept, Universidad Nacional, Bogota, Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] My webpage and OpenPGP key at http://facorread.150m.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not working anymore!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVf9lYOZCB4zf2uQRAtSVAJ4l51391wWOjfQA868+ZOoJR4athQCgw8E0 ENgvyDGO+KbR9xK72PIvc2E= =/q0L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Atenciosamente, Thiago Lüttig MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 194392373 __
Re: [gentoo-user] sharing portage directories when dual booting x86 and amd64
At Fri, 25 May 2007 11:32:48 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 24 May 2007 23:42:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote: In particular can I share * tmp (PORTAGE_TMPDIR) If you ever compile the same package at the same time that may not be such a good idea. Even if it works it may be confusing. Why not just make two subdirs in the same place and use one as PORTAGE_TMPDIR for each system..? How can that happen? As I mentioned, I would be dual booting into *either* x86 or amd64. There is only one computer (my laptop) involved; all filesystems are local. Perhaps your suggestion of separate subdirs is better for clarity, but I don't see how the problem you mentioned can occur in my situation. thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf?
On 5/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Randy Barlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Snip If you are using a lot of memory in your computations, then the 64-bit environment will be much friendlier to you :) Also, if I understand correctly, you will get higher precision on floating point calculations (someone correct me if I am wrong here!) I also believe that the 64 bit processors are able to perform more instructions per second on average when executing 64 bit code vs. 32 bit code if I am not mistaken... I am not sure, but that makes sense. If nothing else, things executed directly usually run more smoothly than those who are run through emulation. 64bit code on 64bit processor good... There is no emulation involved when running 32bit code in either core2 nor amd64 processors. The difference when running in 32bit mode is that some instructions are unavailable, you have a smaller number of registers, and the registers are only 32bit. More registers speed up most kind of code, 64bit registers speed up 64bit calculations, and the extra instructions are good for array calculations and similar (more sse instructions for example). The only bad thing with 64bit code is that the programs get bigger, which may effect memory performance negatively. But if you have a lot of memory then you will benefit from not needing any special addressing modes. Since you (Denis) are doing a lot of mathematical calculations you will probably benefit from running in 64bit mode. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sharing portage directories when dual booting x86 and amd64
Am Freitag 25 Mai 2007 18:52 schrieb Allan Gottlieb wrote: As I mentioned, I would be dual booting into *either* x86 or amd64. There is only one computer (my laptop) involved; all filesystems are local. Since the two systems can never be booted simultanously you can AFAIK share all of those directories without problems. For DISTDIR this is especially useful to save download time... I'd recommend to use separate LOGDIR so you're able do distinguish what happened in which system. If you use ccache you'll probably want to separate those directories too, since the cache for one arch won't be usefull on the other arch. Roman pgpDEi24tf9Fj.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] portage lags behind?
Hi group, I did #emerge --sync a couple of weeks ago, followed by an update of portage. But seems every time I do $ emerge -pv some pkg it always references software out-of-date by years sometimes. Two recent examples: sdcc and ecasound. There are many more. How do I tell portage to go for the latest stable pkg without having to download the tarball and compiling/installing it manually? Maxim Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error starting kde with kernels above 2.6.18
Man, when I start kde with a regular user, it takes the eternity to start, and doesn't say any error message On 5/25/07, Thiago Lüttig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I start kde as root, everything works fine On 5/24/07, Fabio A Correa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thiago, Thiago Lüttig wrote: saying, it cannot contact DCop Server or connect to the X server. I Could you please post the messages the console printed? Have you tried to startx as another user? As root? Could you please attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log and some info on your hardware? - -- Fabio A. Correa D. Physics Dept, Universidad Nacional, Bogota, Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] My webpage and OpenPGP key at http://facorread.150m.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not working anymore!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVf9lYOZCB4zf2uQRAtSVAJ4l51391wWOjfQA868+ZOoJR4athQCgw8E0 ENgvyDGO+KbR9xK72PIvc2E= =/q0L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Atenciosamente, Thiago Lüttig MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 194392373 __ -- __ Atenciosamente, Thiago Lüttig MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 194392373 __
Re: [gentoo-user] Error starting kde with kernels above 2.6.18
On Fri, 25 May 2007 13:49:44 -0300, Thiago Lüttig wrote: when I start kde as root, everything works fine This sounds like a permissions problem, I've seen something like this before. If so, the cure is chown -R user: ~user/.kde/ -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh as he farted in front of a badly placed candle signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage lags behind?
On Fri, 25 May 2007 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: I did #emerge --sync a couple of weeks ago, followed by an update of portage. But seems every time I do $ emerge -pv some pkg it always references software out-of-date by years sometimes. Two recent examples: sdcc and ecasound. There are many more. If you want the latest, the first thing to do is sync, othrwise you're going to miss out on anything added in the last two weeks. How do I tell portage to go for the latest stable pkg without having to download the tarball and compiling/installing it manually? Ebuilds are generally marked stable around a month after being added to portage, so if you want the latest version of a program, you need to emerge the testing (~arch) ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick April Fools! You're really in a holodeck simulation! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sharing portage directories when dual booting x86 and amd64
At Fri, 25 May 2007 19:24:41 +0200 Roman Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag 25 Mai 2007 18:52 schrieb Allan Gottlieb wrote: As I mentioned, I would be dual booting into *either* x86 or amd64. There is only one computer (my laptop) involved; all filesystems are local. Since the two systems can never be booted simultanously you can AFAIK share all of those directories without problems. For DISTDIR this is especially useful to save download time... Right I'd recommend to use separate LOGDIR so you're able do distinguish what happened in which system. Good point and since the log for each compilation is separate, no extra space will be involved. thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:14:53PM -0700, maxim wexler wrote Hi group, I connect to the web using $sudo /usr/sbin/pon isp on one machine(2.6.20-gentoo-r6). On another machine(2.6.19-gentoo-r5), I get :sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied. The message suggest that the process of cudo actually don~t have permission to open the sudoers file. Check that the sudo-program (type sudo) is in fact owned by root, and has the setuid-bit set. $ls -l `which sudo` ---s--x--x 1 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 /usr/bin/sudo* ^ ^ setuidroot -- Christer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf?
On 5/25/07, Andreas Claesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you (Denis) are doing a lot of mathematical calculations you will probably benefit from running in 64bit mode. I often need to run Monte Carlo simulations (in C) which involve a lot of array storage and array scanning/searching operations... I wonder what the speed-up would be for those simulations if run under a 64-bit mode. Are there any requirements on how the simulations should be programmed in order to take advantage of the 64-bit arch, or is that automatically done by the GCC compiler and the kernel? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage lags behind?
maxim wexler ha scritto: How do I tell portage to go for the latest stable pkg without having to download the tarball and compiling/installing it manually? You probably want ebuilds for newer packages that are still not in Portage. You can 1)file a request bug or 2)write an ebuild yourself for the community. Good luck, m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-244/64-bits-supp ort/ ^Not anymore. Has this migrated it's way to the portage tree yet? I am not in a position to check. ^^;; Yes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
$ls -l `which sudo` ---s--x--x 1 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 /usr/bin/sudo* ^ ^ setuidroot -- Christer Thanks Christer, never saw that command before, but like I told Walter, a listing for sudo is indeed: ---s--x--1 2 root root ^ Is this supposed to be a one? mw Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
I was wrong. Sorry. I realize now that this cannot be your problem, sudo tell you that it is not setuid if it's not. $ sudo chmod -s sudo $ sudo ls sudo: must be setuid root Thanks Christer, never saw that command before, but like I told Walter, a listing for sudo is indeed: ---s--x--1 2 root root ^ Is this supposed to be a one? Did you type that line instead of cut'n paste? If not, I fail to. understand the 1 in ---s--x--1 If you ask about the first number directly after the permission string, it is the number of hard links to that file. If it is other than one it means that the file has an other name also, you can find that by using -i to ls to show the inode-number, and then find the other with find -inum Example: $ pwd /usr/bin $ ls -li sudo 8803772 ---s--x--x 2 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 sudo* $ find . -inum 8803772 ./sudo ./foo $ ls -li foo 8803772 ---s--x--x 2 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 foo* Unfortunately I do not know what's wrong, try to strace sudo to see what it does, remember that you have to bee root to strace a setuid program. Look for open(/etc/sudoers, O_RDONLY) = 4 The 4 is what filedescriptor open returned, and is -1 for a failed open. -- Christer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
Example: $ pwd /usr/bin $ ls -li sudo 8803772 ---s--x--x 2 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 sudo* $ find . -inum 8803772 ./sudo ./foo $ ls -li foo 8803772 ---s--x--x 2 root root 107240 2007-05-21 11:11 foo* Unfortunately I do not know what's wrong, try to strace sudo to see what it does, remember that you have to bee root to strace a setuid program. Look for open(/etc/sudoers, O_RDONLY) = 4 The 4 is what filedescriptor open returned, and is -1 for a failed open. strace: ... open(/etc/sudoers, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) geteuid32() = 1 setresuid32(0, 0, 0)= 0 write(2, sudo: , 6sudo: ) = 6 write(2, can\'t open /etc/sudoers, 23can't open /etc/sudoers) = 23 write(2, : , 2: ) = 2 write(2, Permission denied\n, 18Permission denied ) = 18 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ ls -li sudo 314108 ---s--x--x 2 root root 106160 Apr 11 09:26 sudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ find . -inum 314108 ./sudo ./sudoedit [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ ls -li sudoedit 314108 ---s--x--x 2 root root 106160 Apr 11 09:26 sudoedit [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ Just noticed this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls / ls: cannot open directory /: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ picky can't even mount a floppy or write to it! But picky's fstab is identical to heathen's. Only thing I can think of: recently had to do emerge --metadata on account of CacheCorruption error. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] portage lags behind?
-Original Message- From: b.n. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:28 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage lags behind? maxim wexler ha scritto: How do I tell portage to go for the latest stable pkg without having to download the tarball and compiling/installing it manually? You probably want ebuilds for newer packages that are still not in Portage. You can 1)file a request bug or 2)write an ebuild yourself for the community. Good luck, m. Also, there are sometimes packages that the last stable version was just that old. There are also ocasionally packages that require multiple versions to be installed in order to achieve what we want. How many versions of glib are there? Also, from what I have seen, portage often times has the most recent builds of the packages that change most. :P That is one of my main reasons for moving towards Gentoo to start with. ^_^ I like current packages. ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
On Friday 25 May 2007, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works': strace: ... open(/etc/sudoers, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) FS corruption. Check dmesg for any errors, but fsck the filesystem containing this file ASAP even if you don't see anything. I'd seen the same behavior (albeit on a different file) on some of my reiserfs filesystems -- files that no one, including root, could access due to Permission denied. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
