Re: [gentoo-user] how to use another x server for opengl apps

2007-05-28 Thread YoYo Siska
Fabio wrote:
 I use an Nvidia card, and it will only let me use OpenGL on one single
 X session. Perhaps it is the same with Radeon... Check the docs.
 
well, I use nvidia (with binary drivers of course ;)  and I can use
accelerated opengl on all X displays (two for sure, i think I even had 3
at a time).
I used to have xcomposite enabled and some games didn't play well with
it so I used to start them in second X and I used to do so even because
I was able to switch away from them and back easily

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Re: [gentoo-user] writing rules for non-existing nodes -- was no audio

2007-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:35:09 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

 For a 2.6.19-r5 kernel, there is no /dev/sound and
 therefore no /dev/sound/audio, dsp, mixer etc. 

Wong way round. There is no dev/sound/{audio,mixer,etc} therefore no
need for udev to create /dev/sound.
 
 Almost certain that is why I get Failed to open sound
 device error when trying to run mp3blaster.

 The modules are loaded. Alsamixer works and card is
 unmuted. alsasound is started.


Which modules? /dev/sound is OSS not ALSA, have you enabled OSS emulation
for ALSA, both in the kernel and in /etc/modules.d/alsa?


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Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such

2007-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 May 2007, Dale wrote:
 Dan Cowsill wrote:
  Hey list,
 
  It has been a constant burden to me to have to change the file
  permissions of files I've copied so that other users can access
  them and modify them.  Say I have a number of documents in the
  /root folder which the root user owns.  Now I want to transfer them
  to my non-priveliged user so I can work on them... But I have to
  chown them so that is possible.
 
  It just occured to me that there must be an easier way to do things
  like this and I was wondering if you fine fellows could guide me
  down the right path.
 
  Thanks.

 If you use KDE, you can right click on the folder that contains them
 and change the permissions then check the box that says to make it
 apply to everything in the folder.

chmod -R
chown -R (this one only works for root)

 That way you can change a lot of 
 them at once.  I also noticed a while back that if I am in Konqueror
 as root and copy to my user desktop, it changes the permissions to my
 regular user. I never noticed that before.

Ye gods. Why are you running KDE as root ???!!!???

Dan,

There's no easy way to do this. As a user you have to assign group 
and/or other access to the files manually. You can't chown them (only 
root can do that).

Another alternative is to create a dir somewhere exclusively for the 
purpose of sharing stuff, make it owned by root, group owned by some 
share group. Set gid on the directory, every new file/dir 
copied/moved/created there will now be owned by the share group. Make 
sure the relevant users are members of this group:

mkdir /shared-stuff
chown -R root:share /shared-stuff
chmod g+s /shared-stuff

To set the group write permission on all these new items, either change 
the users' umask (ugh!) or use an acl (slightly less ugh!)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 May 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
  I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
  crashed.
 
  I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the
  drive to
  mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.
 
  Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might
  be able to make this happen?

 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much
 nothing you can do.


Wrong.

If the drive suffered a head crash, you would be amazed what data 
recovery experts can do.

But true enough, there might be very little that sean personally and by 
himself can do :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such

2007-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:52:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  I also noticed a while back that if I am in Konqueror
  as root and copy to my user desktop, it changes the permissions to my
  regular user. I never noticed that before.  
 
 Ye gods. Why are you running KDE as root ???!!!???

He's not, otherwise the desktop would belong to root as well as the
Konqueror process.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wifi statup backgrounds

2007-05-28 Thread Fabio A Correa
Hello Adam,

Adam Carter wrote:
 Hi All,
  
 When i start my wifi network (with wpa_supplicant in debug mode) it
 backgrounds and I cant see the rest of the debug messages. How do i stop
 the backgrounding?

Make sure of two things:

1. At /etc/conf.d/net, you add the -d to the line

wpa_supplicant_wlan0=whatever -d

2. That you start the net.wlan0 service as

/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 --verbose start

Optionally, you can also run

tail -f /var/log/everything/current 

prior to starting the service, for extra output.

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Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such

2007-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 28 May 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:52:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   I also noticed a while back that if I am in Konqueror
   as root and copy to my user desktop, it changes the permissions
   to my regular user. I never noticed that before.
 
  Ye gods. Why are you running KDE as root ???!!!???

 He's not, otherwise the desktop would belong to root as well as the
 Konqueror process.

Ah yes, my bad. I didn't realise at first that Dale meant he started 
konqueror as root from a desktop running as a user

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[gentoo-user] is it ok to set local flags using ufed?

2007-05-28 Thread Denis

I find it convenient using ufed - the ncurses USE flag editor - to
change/set USE flags.

What does the following warning in ufed mean: Never enable any flags
other than those specified in /etc/make.conf?

It seems that ufed writes all the USE flags selected to
/etc/make.conf, including both global and local flags.  From what I've
read, /etc/make.conf is only supposed to contain global USE flags,
with local ones set in /etc/portage/package.use...

Is it safe setting local flags using ufed (i.e., in /etc/make.conf) if
you know you dont need them disabled for any packages?
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[gentoo-user] OT dev-java/rxtx

2007-05-28 Thread James

Hello,

Has anyone written or used software that uses the rxtx component
to control or manipulate a pc serial port? Such as a baud
rate, parity etc?

I'm looking for example java code related to the serial ports
on a server.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT dev-java/rxtx

2007-05-28 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 28 May 2007 17:51, James wrote:

 Hello,

 Has anyone written or used software that uses the rxtx component
 to control or manipulate a pc serial port? Such as a baud
 rate, parity etc?

 I'm looking for example java code related to the serial ports
 on a server.

What about

http://rxtx.qbang.org/wiki/index.php/Examples

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Re: [gentoo-user] writing rules for non-existing nodes -- was no audio

2007-05-28 Thread maxim wexler
 Which modules? /dev/sound is OSS not ALSA, have you
 enabled OSS emulation
 for ALSA, both in the kernel and in
 /etc/modules.d/alsa?

I set up the audio according to:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_Complete_(includes_dmix)

Here's /etc/modules.d/alsa:

# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
# OSS/Free portion

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your
specific sound card(s)
## and then run `modules-update' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc
for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.14rc1 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

Here's the .config(irrelevant sections deleted):

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set
# CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=m
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
# CONFIG_RELAY is not set
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_SLAB=y
CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y
CONFIG_RT_MUTEXES=y
# CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set
CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0
# CONFIG_SLOB is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set
# CONFIG_KMOD is not set
#
# Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA)
#
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GOMMCONFIG is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y
# CONFIG_PCIEPORTBUS is not set
CONFIG_ISA_DMA_API=y
# CONFIG_ISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_SCx200 is not set

#
# PCI Hotplug Support
#

#
# Device Drivers
#

#
# Generic Driver Options
#
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
# CONFIG_FW_LOADER is not set
# CONFIG_SYS_HYPERVISOR is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# IDE chipset support/bugfixes
#
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
# CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD64X is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRIFLEX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CY82C693 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5535 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_JMICRON is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SC1200 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IT821X is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SVWKS is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is not set
# CONFIG_IDE_ARM is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=m

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
# CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS is not set
CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT=y
# CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set
CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=m
CONFIG_SND_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_MTPAV=m
CONFIG_SND_MTS64=m
CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550=m
CONFIG_SND_MPU401=m

#
# PCI devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_AD1889 is not set
# 

Re: [gentoo-user] is it ok to set local flags using ufed?

2007-05-28 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 28. Mai 2007, Denis wrote:

 Is it safe setting local flags using ufed (i.e., in /etc/make.conf) if
 you know you dont need them disabled for any packages?

yes

since all packages that don't have that flag ignore it, it is safe.
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT dev-java/rxtx

2007-05-28 Thread James
Etaoin Shrdlu shrdlu at unlimitedmail.org writes:



 http://rxtx.qbang.org/wiki/index.php/Examples

Very cool

I'll test it out.

thx,
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Re: [gentoo-user] is it ok to set local flags using ufed?

2007-05-28 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:45:21AM -0400, Penguin Lover Denis squawked:
 Is it safe setting local flags using ufed (i.e., in /etc/make.conf) if
 you know you dont need them disabled for any packages?

Short answer: yes. It is safe. You won't break your system. (At least
I haven't.)

I only put stuff in package.use if the flags for a package wants to be
different from system-wide defaults.

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[gentoo-user] vmware overlay

2007-05-28 Thread p014r834r

Hi all.

	I am just about to use vmware overlay, and I was wondering if anyone 
had any problems/issues using it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] writing rules for non-existing nodes -- was no audio

2007-05-28 Thread maxim wexler
Here I go answering my own email...

hehe, maybe it's mp3blaster.

Following the instructions here:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php

I was able to play a wav file out my soundcard.

Do I require some sort of .conf file for mp3blaster
(Failed to open device)? Don't see one in ls -a
/home/user.

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[gentoo-user] Sending console messages on Users

2007-05-28 Thread Mick
Hi All,

What is the way to send a console warning to anyone logged on a machine before 
I reboot it?

If the user is logged on a console I will only need to send it to the console; 
in addition if the user is running webmin, or phpadmin, then I would really 
like a popup of sorts to alert them to log out (something like the net send 
command on MS Windows running with the messenger service).

Is there such a thing?
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Re: SOLVED - [gentoo-user] OT: dhcpcd overwrites /etc/resolv.conf after CiscoVPN is started

2007-05-28 Thread Dan Johansson
On Friday 18 May 2007 00:12, Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
   Dhcpcd has an option for that, i believe it's -R.  for example, on this
   diskless router the dhcpcd on eth1 can't rewrite resolv.conf or the
  
   netboot will fail:
   FROM conf.d/net:
   |
   |  config_eth1=(dhcp)
   |  dhcpcd_eth1=(-R)
  
   However, you may need to find some way to get that information filled
   out with your corporate intranet info before you use the vpn.
 
  Thanks for the suggestion, I allready know about -R but I need dhcpcd to
  set resolv.conf before the vpnclient starts to get the correct
  information for the network I'm on (not always using VPN).

 emerge resolvconf-gentoo

 This should manage the resolv.conf dynamically and merge information about
 different nameservers for different networks. Works fine for me with the
 very same situation.
Sorry for the late Answer - I was over in the States last week.

Thanks for the tipp, It's working now.

Greatings,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Test!

2007-05-28 Thread dark85x
On Monday 28 May 2007 19:04:16 Tobias Heinlein wrote:
 Hi there!

 eMails rock!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sending console messages on Users

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 18:52 +0100, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 What is the way to send a console warning to anyone logged on a machine 
 before 
 I reboot it?

shutdown(8) does this for you.  In addition there is wall(1).

 
 If the user is logged on a console I will only need to send it to the 
 console; 
 in addition if the user is running webmin, or phpadmin, then I would really 
 like a popup of sorts to alert them to log out (something like the net send 
 command on MS Windows running with the messenger service).
 
 Is there such a thing?

I could give a long explanation on why in practice this never works
(even for wall msgs), but it's not interesting.  Instead I'll give you
some real-world examples of what I've seen.

  * Don't plan reboots during production or when production is at
peak unless absolutely necessary.  In the latter case most
people will be expecting a reboot because they are aware of a
problem that is affecting production.
  * For small shops, it's just as easy, and more effective, to just
go door-to-door letting everyone know there's going to be a
reboot.
  * Nearly every medium-large place I've worked had an overhead
speaker system (dunno why, call me lucky) where unexpected
crashes and reboots were broadcast.
  * For planned reboots, one site I worked sent out broadcast emails
periodically before a scheduled reboot.  There was a monthly
schedule sent out as well as an email the week ans shortly
before the reboot. This was a multi-platform, nation-wide
operation and basically there was no universal way to let
everyone know. Even for the single-platform shop I worked at,
not everyone (that was affected) sat in front of a terminal. All
relevant people or their supervisors were on the mailing list.
If you didn't know, you didn't need to know.
  * Not even the Windows shop I worked at used net send to alert of
reboots.  Maybe nice idea, but it doesn't work.  People are away
from their computers, have the messenger service turned off,
just click OK without reading the message, etc. etc.  All that
net send every did in my experience is generate a lot of phone
calls from people who didn't understand what it was or what it
meant.
  * The most effective way I've seen was a recent job.  They simply
announced on the loud speaker for everyone to log off and shut
down until further notice.  There was no reboot announcement, no
explanation.  Nothing.  Even if a person wasn't affected
everyone was told to log out and turn off their machines.  This
eliminated the phone calls from people asking does this mean
me?  We just had everyone off.  For stragglers, VPN users, etc.
They were manually disconnected.  Let them figure out what
happened when they get back.

As for webmin and phpadmin users... well those people are
administrators... shouldn't they already know?  I wouldn't want a fellow
admin bouncing a server without tapping me on the shoulder or giving me
a call. Technology is rarely a good replacement for common sense.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Sending console messages on Users

2007-05-28 Thread Mick
On Monday 28 May 2007 20:14, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 18:52 +0100, Mick wrote:

  What is the way to send a console warning to anyone logged on a machine
  before I reboot it?

 shutdown(8) does this for you.  In addition there is wall(1).

Of course wall! I had forgotten about that.  There's also talk to tap others 
on the shoulder.  I assume all these will work if logged onto a server via 
ssh?

  If the user is logged on a console I will only need to send it to the
  console; in addition if the user is running webmin, or phpadmin, then I
  would really like a popup of sorts to alert them to log out (something
  like the net send command on MS Windows running with the messenger
  service).

 I could give a long explanation on why in practice this never works
 (even for wall msgs), but it's not interesting.  Instead I'll give you
 some real-world examples of what I've seen.
[snip...]

Thank you for a very informative insight.  :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such

2007-05-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Saturday 26 May 2007, Dale wrote:
   
 Dan Cowsill wrote:
 
 Hey list,

 It has been a constant burden to me to have to change the file
 permissions of files I've copied so that other users can access
 them and modify them.  Say I have a number of documents in the
 /root folder which the root user owns.  Now I want to transfer them
 to my non-priveliged user so I can work on them... But I have to
 chown them so that is possible.

 It just occured to me that there must be an easier way to do things
 like this and I was wondering if you fine fellows could guide me
 down the right path.

 Thanks.
   
 If you use KDE, you can right click on the folder that contains them
 and change the permissions then check the box that says to make it
 apply to everything in the folder.
 

 chmod -R
 chown -R (this one only works for root)

   
 That way you can change a lot of 
 them at once.  I also noticed a while back that if I am in Konqueror
 as root and copy to my user desktop, it changes the permissions to my
 regular user. I never noticed that before.
 

 Ye gods. Why are you running KDE as root ???!!!???
   

I'm not running KDE as root, I'm running Konqueror as root.  Actually,
mine is set up so you can't run KDE as root.  We all should know that is
not a good idea.

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Re: [gentoo-user] is it ok to set local flags using ufed?

2007-05-28 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 28. Mai 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:45:21AM -0400, Penguin Lover Denis squawked:
  Is it safe setting local flags using ufed (i.e., in /etc/make.conf) if
  you know you dont need them disabled for any packages?

 Short answer: yes. It is safe. You won't break your system. (At least
 I haven't.)

 I only put stuff in package.use if the flags for a package wants to be
 different from system-wide defaults.

yeah, me too. Everything into make.conf, in package.use the two odd 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Test!

2007-05-28 Thread burlingk


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 From: dark85x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 On Monday 28 May 2007 19:04:16 Tobias Heinlein wrote:
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[gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question

2007-05-28 Thread burlingk
Are there any really good XML tutorials on the web, or perhaps a book
that is actually useful?
 
Also, which libs do people preffer for dealing with XML?
 
I am contemplating messing arround with XML for data files for a project
I want to mess with.
 
The project would involve loading objects into a dynamic list.  I do not
think I want to deal with the XML file in real time, as I am not sure
how fast that would be, but rather load the data into memory, then save
it to the XML file at save points.
 
:-)  My views may change as time goes by, but for now I am learning, and
starting to do research. ^_^
 

Kenneth M. Burling Jr