Re: [gentoo-user] format for eix-sync

2008-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Chuck Robey wrote:
  The format is none of those :-) It actually looks like this:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/movies $ sudo eix --dump | grep SLOT
  DIFF_NO_SLOTS='false'
  FORMAT_BEFORE_SLOT_IUSE='\n\t\{(blue)'
  FORMAT_AFTER_SLOT_IUSE='()\}'
  COLOR_SLOTS='red,1'
  COLORED_SLOTS='true'
  COLON_SLOTS='false'
  UPGRADE_TO_HIGHEST_SLOT='true'
  PRINT_SLOTS='true'

 Wow, GREAT.  Slots are such a great idea, thjey need more publicity.

Yeah they are very useful where appropriate. Trouble with SLOTS is, you 
need to control their use very closely otherwise everyone and their dog 
decides to use them all over the place especially where not 
appropriate. And few people know how to use them correctly - for a 
classic example have a look at the mess that was eselect gcc...

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Re: [gentoo-user] I've hosed portage

2008-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:31:29 -0600, John J. Foster wrote:

 This was installed in an empty VM and it would be real slow to recompile
 all of Gentoo. There has to be a way to fix it.

You could unpack a stage 3 tarball to a temporary location then copy the
portage files over. If you have portage-utils or equery installed and
working, you could use qlist or equery to generate a list of files to
copy.

Alternatively, as you are using VMs, begin a basic stage 3 install in a
new VM, as far as being able to quickpkg portage, then unpack the tarball
in the root of the broken VM.


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo PPC64 multilib how?

2008-03-18 Thread Gelle István
Hi,
 
I have a ppc64 server at my company.
A lot of ebuilds are working well on this platform, It is ok (apache,
php, mysql, postgresql, samba, ftp, irc, etc.)

But we need some game servers, too.
For example the Quake3 dedicated server compiled perfectly and it is run
smoothly, but clients totally useless: after connecting to the server,
it is impossiple to move from the respawn point.
After a long googling I found that mod's are compiled to 32 bit systems
(OSP, WQ3 etc.) and due to that, it is not possible to get those sources
and there are no ppc64 binaries for them, they are not working in ppc64.

I realized, I need the multilib, but the question is, how?
I found this old doc:
http://www.clusters.umaine.edu/wiki/index.php/Gentoo_2006.0_64-Bit_Userland_to_2006.0_Multilib
I would like to avoid to downgrade to 2006.0.

I use this profile at this moment:
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2007.0/64bit-
userland/server/power5/

The system is:
huinfoppc64 / # uname -a
Linux huinfoppc64 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP Fri Feb 15 10:05:24 CET 2008
ppc64 POWER5 (gr) CHRP IBM,9111-520 GNU/Linux

Is anybody  there, who use ppc64 gentoo system?
Could you help me to find a solution (fully working quake3 dedicated
server) without changing profile?

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdm 4 won t start kde, AGP seems to be off on kdm-4.0 only

2008-03-18 Thread cypherstrong
Hi, thanks for recalling of emerge usage

I have set opengl and dri, Xorg seems to see properly agp, but kdm
failed to aquire on it

difference between 3.5 and 4.0, it's that 3.5 even if they fail, they
seems to use it properly by not 4.0

I will wait for another version, more usable

4.0.2 has some disturbing bug, that should be correct in svn now
wait and cross leg for 4.0.3 or 4.0.4 version
How this version don't be disturb for downloading by Page Not Found
exception (Error 404 :) )
Ok I get out

See ya

Dale a écrit :
 cypherstrong wrote:
 Ok I have found why kdm-4.0 don't work

 They doesn't support seamless login over pam even with nullpassword and
 nopassword activated !!!
 I use pamusb with a key, and login won't done without password sets ...
 I will ask to kde team why ...

 I have look in kdm.log and I have found another problem

 (II) Module already built-in
 (II) Module already built-in
 (II) Module already built-in
 (EE) VIA(0): [drm] drmAgpAcquire failed 19
 expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
 expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
 expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
 The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
  
 Warning:  Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, but RALT has 2
 symbols
   Ignoring extra symbols
 
 Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server

 VIA(0) drmAgepAcquire failed

 The result is the same between kdm-3.5 and kdm-4.0 except on display
 speed

 If I use kdm-4.0, the screen display is really slow, I really think agp
 is totally disabled, and everything take long time to be show even if I
 use kde-4.0 or kde-3.5 session

 Now I have try the same on kdm-3.5, speed is good on kde-4.0 or kde-3.5,
 I think agp is good on it

 I have look in Xorg.0.log, dri and agp are well activated

 What happen ? Did I miss a use option ?

 opengl and dri are totally activated on my use,

 perhaps I have to try another drivers for via unichrome ?

 In kernel, I have disabled AGP for VIA (because i think it's not a via
 unichrome drivers), and activate DRI for VIA (it's a via unichrome dri
 drivers)

 with or without AGP for VIA in kernel, I have the same message on all
 log, so ...

 Did you have an idea ?


   

 I'm not real sure but I do have the USE flag dri in my make.conf. 
 xorg-server is the package that shows it uses it but there may be
 other packages.

 To find out if you have a flag enabled or not, you can do a emerge -pv
 package-name and then look in the list to see if it is enabled or
 not.  Something like this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv xorg-server

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r5  USE=dri ipv6 nptl
 sdl xorg xprint -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal
 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron
 -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit
 -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax
 -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void
 -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy
 -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64
 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -nv -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3
 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14)
 (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident
 -tseng -v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /

 If you have color on yours, red is enabled and blue is disabled.  If
 not color, the flags with the minus sign is front are disabled.  You
 can do a euse -i flag name to see a short, very short, description
 of what the flag does or it's use.

 If you change make.conf, you can do a emerge -avN world to make sure
 all the needed packages are recompiled with the changes.

 I have never seen that error before.  Not real sure what to think
 about it.  Anybody else here have a clue??

 Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-18 Thread Florian Philipp

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 01:47 +, Stroller wrote:
 On 17 Mar 2008, at 18:10, James wrote:
  ...
  Wear leveling is *probably* built into the IDE to CF converter
  carrier board?
 
 Almost certainly not, I'd have thought. Aren't those boards just dumb  
 pin-convertors? CF cards talk IDE.
 
 Stroller.

Yes  they are.

Another thought crossed my mind today: Does wear leveling work if I
create loopback devices (ext2-formatted) on FAT32?

By the way: Why is wear leveling filesystem-dependent anyway? I would
have thought it were working on blocks (like device mapper, cryptsetup,
lvm and so on) and not on files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Received: from unknown

2008-03-18 Thread cypherstrong
Oh, qmail, I don't really know how they work
for me the best and the easiest are postfix,

Perhaps someone else could help you about qmail

You can force qmail to use your host file, just install dnsmasq,
move your resolv.conf to resolv.orig.conf
and create this one:

search jasoncarson.ca
nameserver 127.0.0.1

in your dnsmasq.conf:
resolv-file=/etc/resolv.orig.conf

now qmail if they use the dns system, will see properly your host file

could you give a piece of your host file ?
any 127.0.0.1 line, and any 66.11.182.5 line ?




Jason Carson a écrit :
 Push this:

 66.11.182.5 jasoncarson.ca penguin.jasoncarson.ca

 in your host file
 remove reference to jasoncarson.ca in the 127.0.0.1 lines

 
 ok, I tried that and it didn't work. I came across this...

 qmail never uses /etc/hosts to determine the IP address associated with a
 host name.

 ...Which was in the Life with Qmail documentation
 ( http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html )


   
 Jason Carson a écrit :
 
 try to push your external ip adress in your hosts file for your domain

 
 My static IP is 66.11.182.5 and my computer is called
 penguin.jasoncarson.ca so what exactly would I put in /etc/hosts?


   
 On 3/17/08, Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Greetings,

 When I send an email to myself, in the header information it says the
 following...


 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: (qmail 5901 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 23:57:45
 -

 Received: from unknown (HELO jasoncarson.ca) (127.0.0.1)
  by penguin.jasoncarson.ca with SMTP; 16 Mar 2008 23:57:45 -

 Received: from 192.168.0.75
  (SquirrelMail authenticated user jason)
  by jasoncarson.ca with HTTP;
  Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Test
 From: Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
 Importance: Normal


 Where it says Received: from unknown (HELO jasoncarson.ca)
 (127.0.0.1)
 What do I have to do so it doesn't say Received: from unknown but
 instead displays the correct information and IP address instead of
 127.0.0.1?

 I am running qmail 1.03.

 Thanks

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[gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Schmarck
Hello.

Sorry for being somewhat Off Topic, but could you guys please tell
me if it's possible to use iTunes with wine-0.9.57 under a ~x86
system? Is it possible to change the store location to something
other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?

Thanks,

Michael

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[gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread johann

Capslock Remover 0.1?

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +, Gavin Seddon
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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +
Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
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Sure,

sci-mathematics/fann
sci-mathematics/snns

Don't know if any of these will be of use to you.

By the way, we also know about lower case letters :P Try not to post using
capitals because it's like yelling.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:
 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

First of all, don't shout at us!

AFAIK, snns is a very good OSS implementation - and it's in portage.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:
 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

No, afraid not.

But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key is and 
how to press it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:

HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?


No, afraid not.

But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key is and 
how to press it.


WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CAPS LOCK?  AM I MISSING SOMETHING.  I REALLY DON'T 
GET THE JOKE!

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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Jesús Guerrero wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +
Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
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Sure,

sci-mathematics/fann
sci-mathematics/snns

Don't know if any of these will be of use to you.

By the way, we also know about lower case letters :P Try not to post using
capitals because it's like yelling.
Ah, I get it.  I use caps when I'm in a rush so my grammar 'falls' into 
line.  Sorry!


I am trying to address the protein folding prob. with neural nets.  So I 
need something I can use/teach.

Thanks.

'They' say sarcasm is the lowest form of whit.  Really when not 
delivered correctly it's just annoying.  Thank you for your help.

Gavin.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 schrieb ext Gavin Seddon:

 WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CAPS LOCK?  AM I MISSING SOMETHING.  I REALLY DON'T
 GET THE JOKE!

Well, there's a little difference between the letters in your mails and the 
replies you get.

WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING!

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Florian Philipp

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 12:45 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Sorry for being somewhat Off Topic, but could you guys please tell
 me if it's possible to use iTunes with wine-0.9.57 under a ~x86
 system? Is it possible to change the store location to something
 other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Michael
 

AFAIK that's not possible. Most likely DRM will not work and even if it
runs, you won't be able to burn CDs with it. You might have more success
with Windows in a virtual machine but then you'd still need to emulate a
CD-burner. I'm not sure if there exists an out-of-the-box solution for
that.

By the way: For questions like this, there exists appdb.winehq.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:
  HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
 
  No, afraid not.
 
  But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key
  is and how to press it.

 WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CAPS LOCK?  AM I MISSING SOMETHING.  I REALLY DON'T
 GET THE JOKE!

It's not a joke, and we are being quite serious, but in a light-hearted 
way.

Typing all in caps on a public internet forum is about the rudest thing 
you could do -it means you are shouting in a rage.

You obviously don't know this yet, so in future when you post to such a 
list as this, please disengage your Caps Lock and type your messages in 
the proper English capitalizations.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Jesús Guerrero wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +
Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
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Sure,

sci-mathematics/fann
sci-mathematics/snns

Don't know if any of these will be of use to you.

By the way, we also know about lower case letters :P Try not to post using
capitals because it's like yelling.

Thanks again snns looks like what I want plus! a gui...
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[gentoo-user] Re: NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-18, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:
 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

 No, afraid not.

 But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key is and 
 how to press it.

Maybe he didn't spend the extra money for the lowercase option
on his ADM3 terminal...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a printer to XP: Samba vs IPP

2008-03-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Mark Shields wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM, David Blamire-Brown 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  This is a question about a small home network set-up for printing. I
  can't tell if this is OT for this list, but that doesn't seem to be a
  firm restriction in this part of the world in any case!
 
  I have a locally attached printer on a Gentoo machine. I have a Windows
  XP laptop. I would like to print from my XP laptop over the network to
  the printer.
  I have followed the guide on gentoo.org. I've sort of got printing
  working via Samba, but haven't been able to configure it for XP users to
  print without having to login to Samba. So I'm looking back at using IPP
  on the XP laptop.
 
  Anyway, the main question is, is Samba a preferred option, or is it just
  more complicated than using IPP? There are a couple of brief lines about
  printing via IPP in the Gentoo Printing Guide, but a whole separate guide
  on using Samba. I can't find any information on use of IPP vs Samba via a
  brief Google, but maybe I'm just not searching very well.
 
  Regards,
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 It sounds like you need to enable guest and public access to the printer.
 Here is an older guide, but it seems to have the relevant stuff you need:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=110931

 These lines:

 public = yes
 guest ok = yes

 Check out the guide for the appropriate places to put them.

You will also want to configure cups.conf to listen not only to localhost, but 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-18 Thread Stroller


On 18 Mar 2008, at 10:33, Florian Philipp wrote:

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 01:47 +, Stroller wrote:

On 17 Mar 2008, at 18:10, James wrote:

...
Wear leveling is *probably* built into the IDE to CF converter
carrier board?


Almost certainly not, I'd have thought. Aren't those boards just dumb
pin-convertors? CF cards talk IDE.


Yes  they are.

Another thought crossed my mind today: Does wear leveling work if I
create loopback devices (ext2-formatted) on FAT32?


Surely so. In this case you would be writing to the flash device's  
FAT32 filessystem. It doesn't matter if you're writing a .RAW picture  
file, an .iso or your loopback fs.



By the way: Why is wear leveling filesystem-dependent anyway?


No idea. Please note that in this thread I have stated that I  
_understand_ wear-levelling to be filesystem-dependent - it is others  
who have made replies stating this more confidently.



I would
have thought it were working on blocks (like device mapper,  
cryptsetup,

lvm and so on) and not on files.


Ah! But here we come back to the problem of recording how many times  
a given block has been written upon, in order not to kill that block.  
Most filesystems don't have to do that.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Stroller


On 18 Mar 2008, at 11:45, Michael Schmarck wrote:

...
Sorry for being somewhat Off Topic, but could you guys please tell
me if it's possible to use iTunes with wine-0.9.57 under a ~x86
system?


Sorry, but I'm unable to help you with this.


Is it possible to change the store location to something
other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?


UK residents can buy from the iTunes store, as I would imagine can  
residents of many other European countries. But I prefer to buy CDs,  
myself.


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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 schrieb ext Gavin Seddon:


WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CAPS LOCK?  AM I MISSING SOMETHING.  I REALLY DON'T
GET THE JOKE!


Well, there's a little difference between the letters in your mails and the 
replies you get.


WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING!

Bye...

Dirk

Won't happen again.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:

HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

No, afraid not.

But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key
is and how to press it.

WHAT'S THIS ABOUT CAPS LOCK?  AM I MISSING SOMETHING.  I REALLY DON'T
GET THE JOKE!


It's not a joke, and we are being quite serious, but in a light-hearted 
way.


Typing all in caps on a public internet forum is about the rudest thing 
you could do -it means you are shouting in a rage.


You obviously don't know this yet, so in future when you post to such a 
list as this, please disengage your Caps Lock and type your messages in 
the proper English capitalizations.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a printer to XP: Samba vs IPP

2008-03-18 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer

David Blamire-Brown wrote:

Hi,
This is a question about a small home network set-up for printing. I can't tell 
if this is OT for this list, but that doesn't seem to be a firm restriction in 
this part of the world in any case!

I have a locally attached printer on a Gentoo machine. I have a Windows XP 
laptop. I would like to print from my XP laptop over the network to the printer.
I have followed the guide on gentoo.org. I've sort of got printing working via 
Samba, but haven't been able to configure it for XP users to print without 
having to login to Samba. So I'm looking back at using IPP on the XP laptop.
Anyway, the main question is, is Samba a preferred option, or is it just more 
complicated than using IPP? There are a couple of brief lines about printing 
via IPP in the Gentoo Printing Guide, but a whole separate guide on using 
Samba. I can't find any information on use of IPP vs Samba via a brief Google, 
but maybe I'm just not searching very well.


I would think Samba would be more an option for when you already have a 
Windows/Samba domain running for the network that everyone authenticates 
through. Granted, as another poster provided, you can enable 
public/guest access, which would make it like a Win9x/Me printer share 
though XP should do fine with it.


However, I think CUPS/IPP would be a better option. It's very easy to 
configure (I just followed the Gentoo guide for it). And it makes it 
very easy to install on any Windows system. If you have CUPS configured 
properly, you can even have it provide the drivers automatically to the 
Windows systems - I haven't tried that yet. It really impressed me how 
quick and easy it was to install CUPS - both on other Linux systems and 
on Windows.


There is a Samba/CUPS guide, so I think you can even mix the two a bit.

There is also one other issue to consider - AFAIK, the SMB protocol does 
not do spooling - so you could get job conflicts, while IPP makes the 
printer a true network printer running via a print server (e.g. CUPS) so 
it has spooling inherent to it. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong 
on this.) So you'll be safer using IPP. I have worked in environments 
where printers were shared similarly - no print server - and it causes 
problems when two people try to print something at near the same time; 
the printer will ignore one job, or switch jobs in the middle - never 
predictable what it would do, though I think ignoring jobs was what 
primarily happened. It's a pain - and that's even with printers that had 
built in network interfaces.


Just something to consider.

Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Gavin Seddon

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2008-03-18, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote:

HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

No, afraid not.

But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key is and 
how to press it.


Maybe he didn't spend the extra money for the lowercase option
on his ADM3 terminal...



Grant
That made me giggle
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Schmarck
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 18 Mar 2008, at 11:45, Michael Schmarck wrote:

 Is it possible to change the store location to something
 other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?
 
 UK residents can buy from the iTunes store, as I would imagine can
 residents of many other European countries.

I went ahead and downloaded iTunes 7.6 and ran it with Wine 0.9.57.
When I start iTunes (in Wine), it connects me to the US store. Although
there's a link to change to other stores (like Switzerland), this
action does not work - ie. even after changing to Switzerland, I'm
still at the US store.

Can a European (or rather a Swiss person, as I'm living in
Switzerland) buy from the US store?

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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Gavin Seddon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
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[gentoo-user] [OT]nfs question

2008-03-18 Thread ionut cucu
Hi list!
I want to share my files in my lan with various files systems. I've
tried so far sshfs and now nfs but both have the following issue:
should the router/hub go down, or one of participants to my
inner-circle sharing buddies close their pc, neither of the rest can
enter home...we all have the nfs/sshfs mounted
in /home/user/otheruserdir. I tried restarting nfs/nfsmount nothing.
Umounting will not work because umount.nfs: Server failed to unmount
'10.6.3.41:/home/cuci' umount2: Device or resource busy
umount.nfs: /home/iosz/temp: device is busy --as an example. And lsof
gets stuck. Any ideas on how to avoid this?
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[gentoo-user] Initrd-script questions

2008-03-18 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list!

I'd like to have some advice on my situation:

I have a custom init-script (derived from genkernel). What it already
does is to let gpg ask for a passphrase to decrypt a file on /boot and
then to use to content of that file as the key to a LUKS-formatted swap
(logical volume) which is then used to resume from disk.

What I would also like to do is to use the very same key for other
lvm-volumes like /var and /var/tmp but that doesn't seem that easy.

First idea: Just do the same as with the swap-volume. However, all other
mappings are gone after resuming/booting.

Second idea: Write the plaintext-keyfile to /boot and then use it
via /etc/conf.d/cryptfs before removing it in a secure manner (srm,
provided by app-misc/secure-delete). Problem: When resuming, /boot is
already mounted. Writing to it and then resuming leads to filesystem
corruption.

Third idea: Using a dedicated volume for storing the plaintext key.
Cumbersome, doesn't reduce the risk that srm isn't enough to protect the
key.

So ... what I'd need is a way to transfer data between an initial
ramdisk and the real init. Ideally in form of tmpfs-mountpoint.

I don't think my odds are very high but I just wanted to ask...

Thanks in advance!

Florian Philipp


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]nfs question

2008-03-18 Thread Florian Philipp

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:37 +0200, ionut cucu wrote:
 Hi list!
 I want to share my files in my lan with various files systems. I've
 tried so far sshfs and now nfs but both have the following issue:
 should the router/hub go down, or one of participants to my
 inner-circle sharing buddies close their pc, neither of the rest can
 enter home...we all have the nfs/sshfs mounted
 in /home/user/otheruserdir. I tried restarting nfs/nfsmount nothing.
 Umounting will not work because umount.nfs: Server failed to unmount
 '10.6.3.41:/home/cuci' umount2: Device or resource busy
 umount.nfs: /home/iosz/temp: device is busy --as an example. And lsof
 gets stuck. Any ideas on how to avoid this?

Try to use Coda. It's designed keep on working when you disconnect.
However, I can't give you any support on it. I just know that it is
capable of doing so.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Joshua D Doll

Michael Schmarck wrote:

Hello.

Sorry for being somewhat Off Topic, but could you guys please tell
me if it's possible to use iTunes with wine-0.9.57 under a ~x86
system? Is it possible to change the store location to something
other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?

Thanks,

Michael

  
iTunes works pretty well, running on a VM of windows. I run windows XP 
with VMWare Workstation and have iTunes installed to sync my iPod, 
because no OSS solutions handle m4a very well :-(.


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[gentoo-user] Squid configuration include

2008-03-18 Thread Ale
   Hi! i need to include  a file in squid.conf because i need to divide
the squid.conf file in two parts and export one of this to other
servers...how can i do this? This included file will contain all the cal and
rules for squid.

Many thanks!


Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]nfs question

2008-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:37:52 +0200, ionut cucu wrote:

 I tried restarting nfs/nfsmount nothing.
 Umounting will not work because umount.nfs: Server failed to unmount
 '10.6.3.41:/home/cuci' umount2: Device or resource busy
 umount.nfs: /home/iosz/temp: device is busy --as an example. And lsof
 gets stuck. Any ideas on how to avoid this?

Use umount -l to avoid this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Initrd-script questions

2008-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:56:30 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:

 Third idea: Using a dedicated volume for storing the plaintext key.
 Cumbersome, doesn't reduce the risk that srm isn't enough to protect the
 key.

You could use an encrypted volume to store the key. Your init script asks
for the key for that volume, then all other volumes use key(s) stored on
that volume. I do this, but have no idea how it will work with suspend.


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Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread andrea
On mar, 2008-03-18 at 10:11 -0700, Joshua D Doll wrote:
 
 iTunes works pretty well, running on a VM of windows. I run windows XP 
 with VMWare Workstation and have iTunes installed to sync my iPod, 
 because no OSS solutions handle m4a very well :-(.

Same here with VirtualBox. ITunes works fine for the ipod too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On mar, 2008-03-18 at 10:11 -0700, Joshua D Doll wrote:

   iTunes works pretty well, running on a VM of windows. I run windows XP
   with VMWare Workstation and have iTunes installed to sync my iPod,
   because no OSS solutions handle m4a very well :-(.

  Same here with VirtualBox. ITunes works fine for the ipod too.


Older versions of iTuens run OK under Codeweavers. I haven't kept up
my subscription of Crossover Office as it's just far easier to use
iTunes for purchases under Windows. Mostly I don't buy much from them
as I don't like the sound of their encoding but it works great for
keeping my kid happy.

I tend to use iTunes to rip my CDs in Apple's lossless encoder as that
format is supported in Windows and OSX as well as Aqualung on Linux.
If I don't use iTunes to rip then I do it in Linux using K3b.

Hope this helps,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]nfs question

2008-03-18 Thread Strong Cypher
perhaps the soft mount option for nfs could help
look in the man page

On 3/18/08, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:37:52 +0200, ionut cucu wrote:

  I tried restarting nfs/nfsmount nothing.
  Umounting will not work because umount.nfs: Server failed to unmount
  '10.6.3.41:/home/cuci' umount2: Device or resource busy
  umount.nfs: /home/iosz/temp: device is busy --as an example. And lsof
  gets stuck. Any ideas on how to avoid this?

 Use umount -l to avoid this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?

2008-03-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I equeried dcopidl, and dcopidl belongs to kdelibs itself!
 
 What does it mean?

Simple: KDE folks still aren't confident with the concept of 
modularity (even it's an standard pattern since about 50 years) ;-P

BTW: if libexpat.so.0 was there before the update and now isn't,
there's an major bug in expat (either the ebuild or the source).

I don't know if the Gentoo QM policies say that those bugs have to
be fixed or relying on the revdep-rebuild workaround is enough. 
In the first case, you should file a bug. Otherwise could leave 
it out to save yourself from personal rants ;-o


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Re: [gentoo-user] graphic card driver status

2008-03-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm thinking about upgrading my parent's PC's graphic card because I
 have driver issues with their old Nvidia GF-2 MX which prevent me of
 using the closed source driver.

Try to sell it to someone who's dumb enough to take it ;-O

 Now I want to ask: What's the status of the ATI drivers? Does the free
 driver support 3D-acceleration on newer cards? Is the closed source
 driver still such a pain to setup? 

Proprietary drivers always suck. I'd suggest not wasting time
with them. For the status of the free drivers, you could ask the 
Xorg folks directly.

 How about VIA or Matrox?

No idea about matrox, but via always worked fine for me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-18 Thread dexters84

Hi

In my system I didn't bother with any of embedded file systems - I've 
created 1 GB ext2 partition (journalising in ext3 increases read/write 
count), and it worked just like any other hard drive. Bios detected 
correct capacity - I was lucky with that, but in case where BIOS doesn't 
detect CF card properly google is Your friend.

I don't have all doc I've used during setup but I remember reading this one
http://silent.gumph.org/content/4/1/011-linux-on-cf.html

regards

Stroller pisze:


On 18 Mar 2008, at 10:33, Florian Philipp wrote:

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 01:47 +, Stroller wrote:

On 17 Mar 2008, at 18:10, James wrote:

...
Wear leveling is *probably* built into the IDE to CF converter
carrier board?


Almost certainly not, I'd have thought. Aren't those boards just dumb
pin-convertors? CF cards talk IDE.


Yes  they are.

Another thought crossed my mind today: Does wear leveling work if I
create loopback devices (ext2-formatted) on FAT32?


Surely so. In this case you would be writing to the flash device's 
FAT32 filessystem. It doesn't matter if you're writing a .RAW picture 
file, an .iso or your loopback fs.



By the way: Why is wear leveling filesystem-dependent anyway?


No idea. Please note that in this thread I have stated that I 
_understand_ wear-levelling to be filesystem-dependent - it is others 
who have made replies stating this more confidently.



I would
have thought it were working on blocks (like device mapper, cryptsetup,
lvm and so on) and not on files.


Ah! But here we come back to the problem of recording how many times a 
given block has been written upon, in order not to kill that block. 
Most filesystems don't have to do that.


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[gentoo-user] PRELINK: Filters not supported with LD_TRACE_PRELINKING: Invalid argument'

2008-03-18 Thread Justin

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HI all,

I am just noticed some output from *prelink* and I couldn't explain the 
error message:


*prelink*: /usr/bin/hklplot: Could not parse `/usr/bin/hklplot: error 
while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libccif.so: Filters not 
supported with LD_TRACE_PRELINKING: Invalid argument'



Can anyone tell me what this is about. How can it be solved apart from 
adding it to PRELINK_PATH_MASK.


Thanks,
Justin
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[gentoo-user] Re: NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-18, Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?
 No, afraid not.

 But I do know a good howto that tells you where the Caps Lock key is and 
 how to press it.
 
 Maybe he didn't spend the extra money for the lowercase option
 on his ADM3 terminal...

I got a bit curious and found this web page:

http://www.decodesystems.com/lsi-adm3-kit.html

I used quite a few of those terminals when I was in Univeristy.
They didn't have a microprocessor: just a big board chock-full
of 7400-series ttl logic and a 40-pin UART over in the corner.

It must have been later that the ADM3a came out with lower-case
support.  That was plush (though a bit ugly, since I think it
was still 5x7 without descenders).

There are some better ADM3 pictures at

http://www.thepcmuseum.net/hardware.php

The ones I remember were the smaller without the numeric keypad
(with the little brightness knob above the keyboard on the
right-hand side).  Except we had really ugly light-blue ones...

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[gentoo-user] Leadtek WinFast DTV USB Dingle

2008-03-18 Thread pat
Hello,

I'm trying to push to work *subject*. I follow this (the method a):
http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Gentoo_DVB_driver

I have couple of question to this:
1) cannot find these kernel setups:
   - Select only drivers expected to compile cleanly
   - Hotplug firmware loading support
   - Initial RAM disk (initrd) support (is that one necessary?)
   - /dev/nvram support (can found, but cannot enable it)
2) there's noted (enable every module in here) is that realy necessary?
3) there's necessary to setup DVB_CARDS which one to enable?

Or is there an easier way to do this? :-)

Thanks a lot for all help

 Pat

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-18 Thread Alex Schuster
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

 I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got
 it.  I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if
 it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other
 compromises (admittedly some minor).  I realize I should see some speed
 increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling.

 So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall?

Here are my experiences with amd64, I just helped a friend installing it. 
After reading here we thought it might not be worth the potential trouble, 
but this many registers not being used just feels a little bad. And she 
does mpeg encodings frequently, which is one thing that should work faster.

First peoblem was the minimal Gentoo boot CD. It hang, I think when mounting 
the root FS from the squashfs image on CD. I thought I had a faulty CD-RW 
medium, but a second ttempt with a new CD-ROM gave the same result. But 
there was a kubunto install CD with 64 bit support.

We had trouble with grub. Tab completion did not work, in and outside the 
chroot. I did not dare to install, because there were other disks I did not 
want to endanger. I found and emerged grub-static then, which automatically 
installed into /boot, but something went wrong and grub only showed a GRUB 
message. I installed gurb manually (root (hd0,0), setup (hd0)), and all was 
fine then.
BTW, the manual says that grub-static is only needed when you are on the 
multilib profile. I think I am (/etc/make.profile is 
$PORTDIR/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0(desktop), but emerge --info 
does not show the multilib use flag, which I have defined in make.conf. 
Huh? But it seems that if I were not on multilib, grub would have been 
masked and refused to build.

Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too 
small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on 
LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink that to 
somewhere else. But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB? I would expect 
this to be around 30 MB, which is double the size of these directories on 
my other system, but even ten times more than that? Is something wrong 
here? The installation handbook does not mention this, and also suggest a 
small root partition. The examplee shows 132 MB used there, this looks okay 
to me.

Flash does not work (yet). I emerged netscape-flash and and nspluginwrapper, 
but firefox and konqueror do not have flash working. Did not investigate 
this further yet.

OpenGL works with software rendering only. The card is a Radeon X1550 / 
RV505 and should be supported by the ati-drivers. Module fglrx loads, but 
when starting X, I get this error:

(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed 
(/usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: 
__driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering

I did not find much helpfun information on this yet. One hint is to disable 
Option AIGLX in ServerFlags section of xorg.conf. This gets rid of the 
mesage, and I have dirent rendering enabled in the X log file, but 
glrxinfo shows this:
  libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
  libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
  display: :0.0  screen: 0
  OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
  OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
  OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)

Any ideas on that? We do not want the radeon driver because things like 
multiple displays and tv-out are not working well, I read. I tried anyway, 
I could modprobe radeon, but cannnot start X because a missing device 
section for the 2nd BusID. Maybe I should specify this in xorg.conf (I 
tried a little but to no avail), or get a fresh config instead of one from 
another boot CD. But X -configure does not work. 

X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
Current Operating System: Linux tanja 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 #9 SMP PREEMPT Mon 
Mar 17 15:14:45 CET 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 16 March 2008
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue Mar 18 22:02:27 2008
List of video drivers:
radeonhd
ati
r128
atimisc
fglrx
radeon
vesa

Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x6d) [0x47cd4d]
1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x2b7db9a29430]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(memcpy+0x46) [0x2b7db9a6e916]
3: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0xf1) 
[0x2b7dba934731]
4: X(DoConfigure+0x1f5) [0x47a955]
5: X(InitOutput+0x6a5) [0x468025]
6: X(main+0x275) 

[gentoo-user] Re: OT - Can't get trackball scroll to work

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Sullivan

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 16:04 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I'm trying to follow
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-414623-highlight-emulatewheelbutton.html 
 .  AFAIK, I'm using the same trackball the author is using, but I can't get 
 mine to scroll.  I can't even figure out which button is button #4.  I've 
 altered my configuration to the one the author suggested, and restarted X, 
 but whenever I try to scroll, although it does scroll (sort of), it 
 highlights everything.  I don't want that.  I'm running 
 x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r5 .  The trackball is a Logitech Marble 
 Trackball...

Nevermind.  It's because I'm running xorg-x11-7.1 and the forum tip
doesn't work with xorg-x11-7

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[gentoo-user] OT - Can't get trackball scroll to work

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
I'm trying to follow
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-414623-highlight-emulatewheelbutton.html . 
 AFAIK, I'm using the same trackball the author is using, but I can't get mine 
to scroll.  I can't even figure out which button is button #4.  I've altered my 
configuration to the one the author suggested, and restarted X, but whenever I 
try to scroll, although it does scroll (sort of), it highlights everything.  I 
don't want that.  I'm running x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r5 .  The trackball 
is a Logitech Marble Trackball...

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-18 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer

Alex Schuster wrote:

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:


I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got
it.  I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if
it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other
compromises (admittedly some minor).  I realize I should see some speed
increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling.
So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall?
Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too 
small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on 
LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink that to 
somewhere else. But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB? I would expect 
this to be around 30 MB, which is double the size of these directories on 
my other system, but even ten times more than that? Is something wrong 
here? The installation handbook does not mention this, and also suggest a 
small root partition. The examplee shows 132 MB used there, this looks okay 
to me.


Here's my FS setup from df:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1 9.4G  7.2G  1.8G  81% /
/dev/hdb2 471M   27M  420M   7% /boot
/dev/hda2  31G  3.7G   25G  13% /usr/portage
/dev/mapper/vg_tmp4.0G  154M  3.6G   5% /tmp
/dev/mapper/vg_var 11G  518M  9.8G   5% /var
/dev/mapper/vg_usr9.9G  151M  9.2G   2% /usr/local
/dev/mapper/vg_opt9.9G  505M  8.9G   6% /opt
/dev/mapper/vg_home30G   26G  2.1G  93% /home


I have a few other partitions for things too, but the above covers the 
normal and essential. Additionally I have a couple gigs of swap space. YMMV


I also checked my lib size - which is about 53MB for /lib64, and 4.3MB 
for /lib32. /usr (including sub-mounts, e.g. local and portage) comes 
out to  11GB. /opt is 335 MB, and /var is 309 MB.


So I don't know what went wrong for you.

 Flash does not work (yet). I emerged netscape-flash and and
 nspluginwrapper, but firefox and konqueror do not have flash working.
 Did not investigate this further yet.

I've only really been able to get Flash working with the 32-bit Firefox 
binary. It will randomly work in the 64-bit Firefox build for some 
reason, but nothing consistent - and when it does, only one web page can 
use it at a time - not multi-tabs each with their own flash. Perhaps 
that's just a result of the nswrapper-plugin to make the 32-bit and 
64-bit work together...not sure.


Any how...overall, it runs really well. I can't offer any advice on the 
video issues.


Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:20:39 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:

 Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too 
 small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on 
 LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink
 that to somewhere else.

You could set $CCACHE_DIR, which seems less kludgy to me.


 But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB?

Because you have built your kernel with CONFIG_KITCHENSINK=m?

% du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
9.9M/lib/modules/2.6.24-tuxonice-r3

Hmmm, it's 22MB on my desktop, time to start pruning .config.

% df -h /
FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 reiserfs385M  189M  196M  50% /

That includes /boot with two kernels.


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Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE

2008-03-18 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 08:08:22 am Gavin Seddon wrote:
 HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE?

Hi Gavin,

What would you do with a neural net? You've got me interested. 

For a long time now, I've been wanting to write a smart piece of software 
that would take in answers to a bunch of questions and generate some sort of 
diagnosis. It would be used to aid repair tech's in diagnosis hardware 
failure. Something to refer to, perhaps to get some training from it also. 

Is that what you've got in mind?

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-18 Thread Hal Martin
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:20:39 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:

   
 Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too 
 small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on 
 LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink
 that to somewhere else.
 

 You could set $CCACHE_DIR, which seems less kludgy to me.


   
 But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB?
 

 Because you have built your kernel with CONFIG_KITCHENSINK=m?

 % du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
 9.9M/lib/modules/2.6.24-tuxonice-r3
   
$ du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
19M/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo-r6
 Hmmm, it's 22MB on my desktop, time to start pruning .config.

 % df -h /
 FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda5 reiserfs385M  189M  196M  50% /
   
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9.9G  8.1G  1.3G  87% /

That includes everything except /home.
 That includes /boot with two kernels.


   
I haven't run into any significant problems with x86_64. To use flash
and shockwave I just use wine and the windows version of Firefox, it
works perfectly for me. Everything else I've tried either works, or has
a suitable alternative that I don't mind using, but this rarely happens.

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Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Varner

On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 19:29 +0100, brullo nulla wrote:
   What output do you get from 'revdep-rebuild -p -i' ?
 
 Here it is:
 
 Evaluating package order...
 Warning: Failed to resolve package order.
 Will merge in random order!
 Possible reasons:
 - An ebuild is no longer in the portage tree.
 - An ebuild is masked, use /etc/portage/packages.keyword
   and/or /etc/portage/package.unmask to unmask it
 . done.
   (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

emerge =gentoolkit-0.2.4_rc3 and see what revdep-rebuild gives with that
version.  Unfortunately, the --package-names in gentoolkit-0.2.3 doesn't
work correctly, which causes problems with rebuilding after the expat
upgrade.

Regards,
Paul
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RE: [gentoo-user] Squid configuration include

2008-03-18 Thread Adam Carter
Hi! i need to include  a file in squid.conf because i need to divide the 
squid.conf file in two parts and export one of this to other servers...how can 
i do this? This included file will contain all the cal and rules for squid.

You can refer to external files in some of the directives, so that might be 
good enough.

From squid.conf;
#  TAG: acl
#   Defining an Access List
#
#   acl aclname acltype string1 ...
#   acl aclname acltype file ...
#
#   when using file, the file should contain one item per line
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[gentoo-user] Network problem: following gentoo diskless howto for PXE diskless systems

2008-03-18 Thread William Kenworthy
Hi, I am following the gentoo diskless howto for PXE diskless systems
but I cant seem to stop the slave from restarting its network partway
through and losing its root fs (if I have the problem correct).

I am using config_eth0=( noop ) as suggested in the howto but the
network still seems to startup, getting a new dhcp lease with a blank
rootpath=, after which init fails:

#_
ip-config: Complete:
device= ... lot of text that looks ok
...
bootserver=192.168.1.1, rootserver=192.168.1.1,rootpath=
...
VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem) readonly
...
kernel panic: - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing ...
#_

Hints?
BillK

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