Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP

2008-05-04 Thread Tim
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:48:30 +0100, Mick wrote:
 
 I have a box which has WinXP dual-booting with Gentoo.  I would like to
 be able to have access to a clone of the existing WinXP installation,
 from within Gentoo.  The original WinXP partition should be left well
 alone, as it is business critical.
 
 If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The MS
 profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate it for
 the VM hardware.
 
 
This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the
partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to
reactivate it before it goes inactive.

You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it
sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you
really need the clone?
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[gentoo-user] more webcam

2008-05-04 Thread Gavin Seddon

Messages are
 Failed to query (1) UVC control 2 (unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2).
May  4 11:14:07 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 3 
(unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2).
May  4 11:14:07 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 7 
(unit 2) : -110 (exp. 2).
May  4 11:14:08 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 1 
(unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26).
May  4 11:14:09 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 1 
(unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26).
May  4 11:14:09 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2 
(unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2).
May  4 11:14:09 extreme gqcam[5891]: segfault at 809a000 ip 080548c0 sp 
40a4ff50 error 4 in gqcam[8048000+e000]
/var/log/messages [converted] 613L, 45631C 



The driver and cam are seen

lsusb
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08ce Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 5000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 
Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External)

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13fd:1650
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:0a02 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001
extreme gav # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
uvcvideo   40580  0
compat_ioctl32  1536  1 uvcvideo
videodev   27520  1 uvcvideo
v4l1_compat12036  2 uvcvideo,videodev
extreme gav #
The /dev/video sim link disappears on reboot tho'.
Getting this working is a nightmare!
anyone pls help.
gs
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Jil Larner

Hi Mark,

Mark Knecht a écrit :

[...]
happen I have a way to restore where I am today. Since the disk usage
is currently about 4GB it seems like a great time to do it. Is this
possible? I think it's essentially what the stage 3 file is that I use
when I install, isn't it? 


If you don't export stage3 and /usr/portage/ files, your backup will be 
lighter. The portage tree shouldn't be backed up because it shall be 
outdated when you'll restore, and emerge --sync will bring it back 
(except if you plan to restore in two weeks and have a low speed 
connection so you use emerge-delta-webrsync, but in that case you 
already know why you need to keep the tree).

For stage3, you can safely discard it.

Cf. exclude-dires in man tar




From the running system here's what things look like right now:


laptop1 ~ # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 15820524   3641240  11375636  25% /
udev 10240   172 10068   2% /dev
/dev/sda6  1320272189304   1063900  16% /var
/dev/sda7 10278304312012   9444184   4% /home
shm1003844 0   1003844   0% /dev/shm
laptop1 ~ #



Tip: use df -h and put it as an alias (alias df='df -h' in .bashrc) ;)


My thought is to boot using the install CD, mount a USB drive at
/mnt/gentoo, then create a mount point 'backup' on the USB drive to
mount each of the 3 partitions I want to back up one at a time. ( /,
/var and /home) Then I'll mount each partition by itself and use tar
to create a single file for each partition where that file gets
written on the USB drive. When I'm done I have 3 files.


Thus, you would be able to restore only one partition if needed, and 
there is less chance that all your archive becomes corrupted. I would 
process the same way.


You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you 
can bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up 
if very painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . 
And it saves a *lot* of time when restoring (especially when there is 
@$#! vista partitions with more sectors than there is really on the 
disk...)




Restore would be to create the partitions anew, untar, install grub
from in the chroot, and reboot.


So, restore would be a dd command for the MBR, and a mkfs on your 
partitions, then untar your backups. So you wouldn't even need to chroot





Is this a reasonable way to go? Is there something easier? (That seems
pretty easy to me...)


It is reasonable, for one single computer. If you've more to manage, 
look at dedicated software, or more complex solution as in 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup




I don't want to create images of the partitions because I might want
to put the data onto a different drive or in a different
configuration. (Like no /var or something.)


With a separate backup of the MBR, you're free to restore it or not ;) 
But if you want to be able to adjust your partition tables, leave free 
space on the drive and take a look at LVM, very powerful and easy to use 
by now (there's a good tutorial on howtoforge with a debian VMWare 
virtual machine)




If this makes sense then what commands would I want to use to do this
correctly. Presumably it needs to tar up links, file system
permissions, and everything else. Since the Quick Install guide uses


You *must* keep permissions of your files, so if you use tar, use -p 
option (cf. man), as if you use cp, use -p option.




Or is there more to it?


Yep, that's it. Restore mbr, mkfs, mount, untar, sync(or umount), reboot



I'm rambling here so I'll hope for a quick answer and then give it a try.

Thanks in advance,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time

2008-05-04 Thread luis jure

hello list,

recently i began having problems when trying to run gaupol, a subtitle
editor. it fails thus:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/gaupol, line 18, in module
import gaupol.gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gaupol/gtk/__init__.py, line
44, in module gobject.threads_init()
RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time


yesterday i installed deluge (a bittorrent client) and it crashes with
the same error:

  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deluge/interface.py, line
1041, in start gobject.threads_init()
RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time

i searched the web but i couldn't find anything useful. supposedly this
happens when pygtk is compiled without threads support, but the ebuild
doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i see the
option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk *should* have
threads enabled. any ideas?

best,

lj
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:21:47 +0200, Jil Larner wrote:

 You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you 
 can bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up 
 if very painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . 

The MBR contains only the primary partitions. If you have an extended
partition, you will need to use sfdisk to make a separate backup of the
logical partition table.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP

2008-05-04 Thread Akselii
On 5/4/08, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
   On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:48:30 +0100, Mick wrote:
  
   I have a box which has WinXP dual-booting with Gentoo.  I would like to
   be able to have access to a clone of the existing WinXP installation,
   from within Gentoo.  The original WinXP partition should be left well
   alone, as it is business critical.
  
   If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The MS
   profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate it for
   the VM hardware.
  
  
  This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the
  partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to
  reactivate it before it goes inactive.

  You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it
  sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you
  really need the clone?

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If i recall right you could boot windows with different profiles,
which would be just different hardware configurations, also i dont
think corporate versions of windows says anything about the
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
Jil  Neil,
   Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try today.

   It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the
very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the
procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done
I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk
space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some
commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe
keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should
the worst happen.

   Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it.

Cheers,
Mark

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Jil Larner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Mark,

  Mark Knecht a écrit :

  [...]
 
  happen I have a way to restore where I am today. Since the disk usage
  is currently about 4GB it seems like a great time to do it. Is this
  possible? I think it's essentially what the stage 3 file is that I use
  when I install, isn't it?
 

  If you don't export stage3 and /usr/portage/ files, your backup will be
 lighter. The portage tree shouldn't be backed up because it shall be
 outdated when you'll restore, and emerge --sync will bring it back (except
 if you plan to restore in two weeks and have a low speed connection so you
 use emerge-delta-webrsync, but in that case you already know why you need to
 keep the tree).
  For stage3, you can safely discard it.

  Cf. exclude-dires in man tar



 
 
   From the running system here's what things look like right now:
  
 
  laptop1 ~ # df
  Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
  /dev/sda5 15820524   3641240  11375636  25% /
  udev 10240   172 10068   2% /dev
  /dev/sda6  1320272189304   1063900  16% /var
  /dev/sda7 10278304312012   9444184   4% /home
  shm1003844 0   1003844   0% /dev/shm
  laptop1 ~ #
 
 

  Tip: use df -h and put it as an alias (alias df='df -h' in .bashrc) ;)



  My thought is to boot using the install CD, mount a USB drive at
  /mnt/gentoo, then create a mount point 'backup' on the USB drive to
  mount each of the 3 partitions I want to back up one at a time. ( /,
  /var and /home) Then I'll mount each partition by itself and use tar
  to create a single file for each partition where that file gets
  written on the USB drive. When I'm done I have 3 files.
 

  Thus, you would be able to restore only one partition if needed, and there
 is less chance that all your archive becomes corrupted. I would process the
 same way.

  You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you can
 bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up if very
 painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . And it saves a
 *lot* of time when restoring (especially when there is @$#! vista
 partitions with more sectors than there is really on the disk...)



 
  Restore would be to create the partitions anew, untar, install grub
  from in the chroot, and reboot.
 

  So, restore would be a dd command for the MBR, and a mkfs on your
 partitions, then untar your backups. So you wouldn't even need to chroot




 
  Is this a reasonable way to go? Is there something easier? (That seems
  pretty easy to me...)
 

  It is reasonable, for one single computer. If you've more to manage, look
 at dedicated software, or more complex solution as in
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup



 
  I don't want to create images of the partitions because I might want
  to put the data onto a different drive or in a different
  configuration. (Like no /var or something.)
 

  With a separate backup of the MBR, you're free to restore it or not ;) But
 if you want to be able to adjust your partition tables, leave free space on
 the drive and take a look at LVM, very powerful and easy to use by now
 (there's a good tutorial on howtoforge with a debian VMWare virtual machine)



 
  If this makes sense then what commands would I want to use to do this
  correctly. Presumably it needs to tar up links, file system
  permissions, and everything else. Since the Quick Install guide uses
 

  You *must* keep permissions of your files, so if you use tar, use -p option
 (cf. man), as if you use cp, use -p option.




  Or is there more to it?
 

  Yep, that's it. Restore mbr, mkfs, mount, untar, sync(or umount), reboot




 
  I'm rambling here so I'll hope for a quick answer and then give it a try.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Mark
 
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[gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!

2008-05-04 Thread Akselii
Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them
quite handy already.
Any tips or tricks for me?

Sorry for off-topic!
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[gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Norberto Bensa

Hello list,

svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add  
layman's repos:


$ sudo layman -a vmware
* Running command /usr/bin/svn co  
http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/;  
/usr/portage/local/layman/vmware...
svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for  
'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk'

* Failed to add overlay vmware.
* Error was: Adding the overlay failed!



$ sudo layman -S
* Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla...
svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla'
* Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects   
/usr/bin/git pull...

Already up-to-date.
* Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise...
svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for  
'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed'
* Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/gnome   
/usr/bin/git pull...

Already up-to-date.
*
* Success:
* --
*
* Successfully synchronized overlay desktop-effects.
* Successfully synchronized overlay gnome.
*
* Errors:
* --
*
* Failed to sync overlay mozilla.
* Error was: Syncing overlay mozilla returned status 256!
*
* Failed to sync overlay sunrise.
* Error was: Syncing overlay sunrise returned status 256!
*


Anyone knows more about it?

Thanks!
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[gentoo-user] Using package.use

2008-05-04 Thread reader
In man portage I see examples of using package.use

Its listed with address  /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage like
this:

some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag)

I want to subtract a use flag so trying:

   (tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not
acceptable unquoted:

net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba
net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba

Neither way appears to have an effect on
emerge -vuDNp tcpdump

It still comes up with positive samba use flag.  And then when actual
emerging is done, dire warnings are given about using `samba' use
flag.

I'd hoped to use package.use so as not to have to mess with tcpcump
individualy.

Is my syntax wrong or some other problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using package.use

2008-05-04 Thread Kenneth Prugh
On Sun, 04 May 2008 10:54:04 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In man portage I see examples of using package.use
 
 Its listed with address  /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage like
 this:
 
 some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag)
 
 I want to subtract a use flag so trying:
 
(tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not
 acceptable unquoted:
 
 net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba
 net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba
 
 Neither way appears to have an effect on
 emerge -vuDNp tcpdump
 
 It still comes up with positive samba use flag.  And then when actual
 emerging is done, dire warnings are given about using `samba' use
 flag.
 
 I'd hoped to use package.use so as not to have to mess with tcpcump
 individualy.
 
 Is my syntax wrong or some other problem?
 

try:
net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba

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[gentoo-user] Re: [off-topic] Hello all!

2008-05-04 Thread reader
Akselii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any tips or tricks for me?

tip # 1: You will get much better results asking something specific
 and maybe some details of what yov've tried.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using package.use

2008-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In man portage I see examples of using package.use

 Its listed with address  /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage
 like this:

 some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag)

 I want to subtract a use flag so trying:

(tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not
 acceptable unquoted:

 net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba

It's 

net-analyser/tcpdump -samba
^
no colon
space present
no quotes

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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Hello list,

 svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add
 layman's repos:

 $ sudo layman -a vmware
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn co
 http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/;
 /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware...
 svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk'
 * Failed to add overlay vmware.
 * Error was: Adding the overlay failed!



 $ sudo layman -S
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn update
 /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme
 for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla' * Running command
 cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects  /usr/bin/git
 pull...
 Already up-to-date.
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn update
 /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme
 for
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed'

I use the same subversion version as you:

nazgul x11-themes # eix subversion
[I] dev-util/subversion
 Available versions:  1.4.5 1.4.6 (~)1.4.6-r2 (~)1.5.0_rc4 
{+webdav-neon apache2 bash-completion berkdb debug doc elibc_FreeBSD 
emacs extras java nls nowebdav perl python ruby sasl svnserve 
vim-syntax webdav-serf}
 Installed versions:  1.5.0_rc4(14:07:33 05/01/08)(apache2 
bash-completion java perl python sasl 
vim-syntax -+webdav-neon -berkdb -debug -doc -elibc_FreeBSD -emacs -extras -nls 
-ruby -webdav-serf)

My layman version:

nazgul x11-themes # eix layman
[I] app-portage/layman
 Available versions:  1.0.6 1.0.10 1.1.1 (~)1.1.1-r1 {test}
 Installed versions:  1.1.1-r1(16:34:54 02/02/08)(-test)

I use mozilla and sunrise too, and they work fine here:

nazgul x11-themes # layman -S
* Running command /usr/bin/svn 
update /var/portage/local/layman/enlightenment...
At revision 140.
* Running command /usr/bin/svn 
update /var/portage/local/layman/mozilla...
At revision 147.
* Running command /usr/bin/svn 
update /var/portage/local/layman/sunrise...
U/var/portage/local/layman/sunrise/net-libs/fec/Manifest
...
A
/var/portage/local/layman/sunrise/sci-mathematics/dataplot/dataplot-20080225-r1.ebuild
Updated to revision 6149.
*
* Success:
* --
*
* Successfully synchronized overlay enlightenment.
* Successfully synchronized overlay mozilla.
* Successfully synchronized overlay sunrise.



I've noticed very occasional similar behaviour this end in the past. 
'layman -d overlay ; layman -a overlay' 
has always worked for me. What happens if you try this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!

2008-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Akselii wrote:
 Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them
 quite handy already.
 Any tips or tricks for me?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml




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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (04/05/08 12:49) Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Hello list,

 svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's 
 repos:

 $ sudo layman -a vmware
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn co 
 http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; 
 /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware...
 svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk'
 * Failed to add overlay vmware.
 * Error was: Adding the overlay failed!



 $ sudo layman -S
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn update 
 /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla...
 svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla'
 * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects  
 /usr/bin/git pull...
 Already up-to-date.
 * Running command /usr/bin/svn update 
 /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise...
 svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed'
 * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/gnome  /usr/bin/git 
 pull...
 Already up-to-date.
 *
 * Success:
 * --
 *
 * Successfully synchronized overlay desktop-effects.
 * Successfully synchronized overlay gnome.
 *
 * Errors:
 * --
 *
 * Failed to sync overlay mozilla.
 * Error was: Syncing overlay mozilla returned status 256!
 *
 * Failed to sync overlay sunrise.
 * Error was: Syncing overlay sunrise returned status 256!
 *


 Anyone knows more about it?

 Thanks!
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Hi,

Had similar problems with neon library which interfaces svn with http://
The testing svn seems to have some new USE-flags 'webdav-neon'
Try downgrading to stable to see if it works.
Some wild guesses here but HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
  svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's
 repos:

  $ sudo layman -a vmware
  * Running command /usr/bin/svn co
 http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/;
 /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware...
  svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for
 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk'
  * Failed to add overlay vmware.
  * Error was: Adding the overlay failed!

According to the subversion FAQ[1], that could be svn having trouble
loading the ra_dav plugin for http://
Since this seems like a package installation problem, and Alan has it
working with his version of svn, please `emerge --sync` and reinstall
svn to see if that fixes things for you.

- Pariksheet

[1] http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#unrecognized-url-error
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[gentoo-user] Only a - in top column WCHAN since downgrade to gcc 4.1.2

2008-05-04 Thread Wolf Canis
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Hello,
since I gcc downgraded to version 4.1.2 I have in the top
column WCHAN only a -. This applies to all processes.
The System.map is available in /usr/src/linux.
It works after installation, that was late 2007, with gcc 4.1.2
and it works with gcc 4.2.2 but I had to downgrade to gcc 4.1.2
because of build problems of firefox 2.0.0.14.
I tried a symbolically link of System.map to the root directory. I
also tried it with the boot partition permanently mounted and I
re-emerged sys-process/procps-3.2.7, where top belongs to, too.
But the behaviour of top is always the same, WCHAN shows only
a -.

Has someone encountered a similar behaviour with top? Or does
someone know what I'm missing?

Thanks in advance
W. Canis
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[gentoo-user] Re: Using package.use

2008-05-04 Thread reader
Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba
 net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba
 
 Neither way appears to have an effect on
 emerge -vuDNp tcpdump

[...]

 try:
 net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba

It works ... thanks .. I was confused with this info which is
apparently really about something else


lines 560-592 of 630
[...]
 Format:
 - comments begin with #
 - package:use flag - description

 Example:
 app-editors/nano:justify - Toggles the justify
 option
 dev-libs/DirectFB:fusion - Adds Multi Application
 support
 games-emulation/xmess:net - Adds network support

[...]

To be fair it also shows the syntax you showed in another section.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using package.use

2008-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  try:
  net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba

 It works ... thanks .. I was confused with this info which is
 apparently really about something else


 lines 560-592 of 630
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  Format:
  - comments begin with #
  - package:use flag - description

  Example:
  app-editors/nano:justify - Toggles the justify
  option
  dev-libs/DirectFB:fusion - Adds Multi
 Application support
  games-emulation/xmess:net - Adds network support

That's the syntax for ${PORTDIR}/profiles/use*, which documents what USE 
FLAGS are intended for. The gentoo devs edit those files when they 
add/update flags to the system.

 To be fair it also shows the syntax you showed in another section.

:-) Documentation - wonderful stuff. If you find the right chapter in 
the right document, that it.

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[gentoo-user] subscribe

2008-05-04 Thread Anders Trobäck
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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Rumen Yotov wrote:
 Had similar problems with neon library which interfaces svn with
 http:// The testing svn seems to have some new USE-flags
 'webdav-neon' Try downgrading to stable to see if it works.
 Some wild guesses here but HTH.

USE=-webdav-neon works here

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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?

2008-05-04 Thread Norberto Bensa

Quoting Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


USE=-webdav-neon works here


Hm. I have enabled boths webdav-something USE flags -which were  
disabled- and now it works.


Thanks everyone!

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Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!

2008-05-04 Thread Abraham Gyorgy
Ask a question and you'll be answered. But first look at
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page ! It has tons of tips! ;)

2008/5/4, Akselii [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them
 quite handy already.
 Any tips or tricks for me?

 Sorry for off-topic!
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Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time

2008-05-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 May 2008, luis jure wrote:
 hello list,

 recently i began having problems when trying to run gaupol, a subtitle
 editor. it fails thus:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/gaupol, line 18, in module
 import gaupol.gtk
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gaupol/gtk/__init__.py, line
 44, in module gobject.threads_init()
 RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time


 yesterday i installed deluge (a bittorrent client) and it crashes with
 the same error:

   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deluge/interface.py, line
 1041, in start gobject.threads_init()
 RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time

 i searched the web but i couldn't find anything useful. supposedly this
 happens when pygtk is compiled without threads support, but the ebuild
 doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i see the
 option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk *should* have
 threads enabled. any ideas?

I assume that you have tried the basics like /usr/sbin/python-updater and 
revdep-rebuild -X -v -p ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP

2008-05-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Akselii wrote:
 On 5/4/08, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Neil Bothwick wrote:

If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The
MS profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate
it for the VM hardware.
 
   This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the
   partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to
   reactivate it before it goes inactive.
 
   You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it
   sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you
   really need the clone?
 
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 If i recall right you could boot windows with different profiles,
 which would be just different hardware configurations, also i dont
 think corporate versions of windows says anything about the
 activation.

Thank you All,

I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the same 
partition image it will not ask me to re-register it.  The thing is that I do 
not want to interfere at all with the original installation/partition, and 
there are enough warnings on the Virtualbox manual to convince me that I 
should not risk it (not with this installation anyway).

When you say it'll take three days for the registration to lock up, does this 
mean that it will only kick in if I leave Virtualbox running for three days 
continuously, or will it know/remember how long I have been running it since 
the very first time I booted it up?
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Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time

2008-05-04 Thread luis jure
El Sun, 4 May 2008 19:30:25 +0100
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 I assume that you have tried the basics like /usr/sbin/python-updater
 and revdep-rebuild -X -v -p ?

hi, thanks for your answer. yes, i did that, and i did recompile pygtk
several times and a few other packages that i could think could be
related, just in case. in fact i asked the list before doing the last i
could think of, that is emerge -e pygtk (well, the last i can think of
is reinstalling the whole system...)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP

2008-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 May 2008 19:47:13 +0100, Mick wrote:

 I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the
 same partition image it will not ask me to re-register it.

But it's not the same hardware, you are now running it on the VB virtual
hardware.


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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jil  Neil,
Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try 
 today.

It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the
  very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the
  procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done
  I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk
  space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some
  commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe
  keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should
  the worst happen.

Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it.

  Cheers,
  Mark


Hi all,
   So I'm working on this and ran into a couple of questions about tar.

1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with
files at the wrong level every time so far.

Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a
partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories
- /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others:

mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo  [[ This is empty except for a mount
point called TarPoint ]]
cd /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint   [[ The partition I want to backup ]]

Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way
to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so
that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive
(hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this

mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo
cd /mnt/gentoo
scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 .
tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2

and I get the system directory hierarchy back again.

2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to
local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install
CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do
with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or
untarring to build the environment.

What I'm seeing is that the command

tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2

generates lots of messages about file times being in the future. Maybe
this won't matter if I use the backup later than 8 hours from the time
I make it but in the short term will it cause any problems?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time

2008-05-04 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:49:23 -0300
luis jure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ebuild doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i
 see the option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk
 *should* have threads enabled. any ideas?
 
 best,
 
 lj


Hi,

You might want to try this:

echo EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-threads  /etc/make.conf
emerge -1 dev-python/pygtk


If things are still not OK you could re-emerge all packs which
depend on pygtk. To get a list of those:

equery depends dev-python/pygtk


Then you can remark/delete the EXTRA_ECONF line from make.conf.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Shields
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jil  Neil,
 Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try
 today.
 
 It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the
   very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the
   procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done
   I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk
   space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some
   commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe
   keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should
   the worst happen.
 
 Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it.
 
   Cheers,
   Mark
 

 Hi all,
   So I'm working on this and ran into a couple of questions about tar.

 1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with
 files at the wrong level every time so far.

 Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a
 partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories
 - /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others:

 mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo  [[ This is empty except for a mount
 point called TarPoint ]]
 cd /mnt/gentoo
 mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint   [[ The partition I want to backup ]]

 Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way
 to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so
 that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive
 (hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this

 mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo
 cd /mnt/gentoo
 scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 .
 tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2

 and I get the system directory hierarchy back again.

 2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to
 local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install
 CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do
 with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or
 untarring to build the environment.

 What I'm seeing is that the command

 tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2

 generates lots of messages about file times being in the future. Maybe
 this won't matter if I use the backup later than 8 hours from the time
 I make it but in the short term will it cause any problems?

 Thanks,
 Mark
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Look into what's called a stage 4 backup:
http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4)

I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine.  It already excludes
the appropriate files:

/dev
/lost+found
/mnt
/proc
/sys
/tmp
/usr/portage
/usr/src
/var/log
/var/tmp
/var/db
/var/cache/edb

It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical),
though you could edit the script to do that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP

2008-05-04 Thread Tim
Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 04 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 4 May 2008 19:47:13 +0100, Mick wrote:
 I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the
 same partition image it will not ask me to re-register it.
 But it's not the same hardware, you are now running it on the VB virtual
 hardware.
 
 Sure, but it's the same physical drive  IDE controller, no?
Yes, but the way a virtual machine works is that it creates its own set
of hardware and emulates that hardware for the OS you're running. The
VM software itself acts as a bridge between calls made to this virtual
hardware and the true hardware in your system.

The three days is from the time you first boot the machine in the VM -
it remembers, even if it's shut down.

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look into what's called a stage 4 backup:
 http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4)

 I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine.  It already excludes
 the appropriate files:

 /dev
 /lost+found
 /mnt
 /proc
 /sys
 /tmp
 /usr/portage
 /usr/src
 /var/log
 /var/tmp

 /var/db
 /var/cache/edb

 It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical),
 though you could edit the script to do that.

 --
 - Mark Shields

Thanks Mark. That looks interesting.

I'm not clear about the process of actually making the backup. This
get run on a live file system? I suppose the things it excludes if it
does are the things that might be changing?

- Mark
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[gentoo-user] using a HD with bad sectors

2008-05-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,

I have two 2.5in HD's, one 60Gb with a heap of bad sectors currently
used in external Hd enclosure, and one 100Gb which seems in good
condition, currently in my laptop.

I'm upgrading my laptop, and I'd like to turn the old one into a myth
frontend or something similar, so I want to put the 60Gb in it.  I will
then use the 100Gb in my external enclosure for travelling, backups,
etc.

The reason the 60Gb has bad sectors (I think) is because I dropped it
(in it's enclosure). This was quite some time ago, and it doesn't seem
to be dying any further, but I haven't done any comparisons on the bad
sector count.  I use nearly 100% of the space available, and regularly
compare cksums, so if anything was deteriorating, I would know.

The question is: should I use it at all (for any use, external HD or
internal with operating system), or is it sufficient to let the fsck
tool mark the bad sectors and just keep using it?

Is there a way to monitor it's health in the external enclosure until
I get my new laptop?  Is counting the bad sectors enough?

thanks heaps!
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Look into what's called a stage 4 backup:
   
 http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4)
  
   I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine.  It already excludes
   the appropriate files:
  
   /dev
   /lost+found
   /mnt
   /proc
   /sys
   /tmp
   /usr/portage
   /usr/src
   /var/log
   /var/tmp
  
   /var/db
   /var/cache/edb
  
   It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical),
   though you could edit the script to do that.
  
   --
   - Mark Shields

  Thanks Mark. That looks interesting.

  I'm not clear about the process of actually making the backup. This
  get run on a live file system? I suppose the things it excludes if it
  does are the things that might be changing?

  - Mark


So I tried this out. Although I had a couple of directory issues
getting it ready to go it did run eventually.

My issue at this point is a matter of gaining confidence that it
backed up the right stuff. Considering my file system usage the file
size seems smallish at 1.2G.

lightning ~ # df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 9.2G  6.5G  2.3G  75% /
udev   10M  184K  9.9M   2% /dev
/dev/sda6 3.7G  740M  2.8G  21% /usr/src
/dev/sda8  14G   11G  2.5G  82% /home
shm   497M 0  497M   0% /dev/shm
none  497M 0  497M   0% /tmp/jack
lightning ~ #

The terminal where it ran said it backed up about 3.3GB into a 1.2GB
file. My file system usage (for a minimal backup) is roughly the 6.5GB
on / since minimal doesn't back up /home and /usr/src which I
convieniently have on separate partitions anyway. I wonder if half of
that 6.6GB really isn't needed?

Anyway, the scripts seemed to have worked, but how to verify? That's
the question.

Could I restore this backup into a different subdirectory somewhere
and then chroot into it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!

2008-05-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 18:34 +0300, Akselii wrote:
 Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them
 quite handy already.

welcome!

 Any tips or tricks for me?

yes, don't be put off by answers that you don't expect, or that seem
stupid!

 Sorry for off-topic!

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-04 Thread Ian Graeme Hilt
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:12:08PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with
 files at the wrong level every time so far.
 
 Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a
 partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories
 - /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others:
 
 mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo  [[ This is empty except for a mount
 point called TarPoint ]]
 cd /mnt/gentoo
 mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint   [[ The partition I want to backup ]]
 
 Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way
 to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so
 that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive
 (hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this
 
 mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo
 cd /mnt/gentoo
 scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 .
 tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2

To extract bzip2 files with tar, you need to add the j option.

 and I get the system directory hierarchy back again.
 
 2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to
 local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install
 CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do
 with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or
 untarring to build the environment.
 
 What I'm seeing is that the command
 
 tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2

You have conflicting options there.  To extract, use x.  To
create, use c.

 generates lots of messages about file times being in the
 future. Maybe this won't matter if I use the backup later than
 8 hours from the time I make it but in the short term will it
 cause any problems?

Any problems?  Probably.  They may be inconsequential though.
Follow the instructions below for a possible solution to your
problem.

First, make sure your time is set correctly under UTC with the
date command.  For help with it,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5

Then, you might try setting the TZ variable in the shell
environment to the timezone in which the tar'ed files
resided.  Afterwards, untar the tarball.  Not sure how this will
work in an install environment.

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[gentoo-user] Apache status

2008-05-04 Thread Adam Carter
I'm running Apache 2.2.8 and want the status info, so i need to add

Location /server-status
SetHandler server-status

Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
Allow from .foo.com
/Location

But, in httpd.conf
IfDefine INFO
LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so
/IfDefine

So what's the syntax to define INFO?

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] using a HD with bad sectors

2008-05-04 Thread deface

Iain Buchanan wrote:

Hi all,

I have two 2.5in HD's, one 60Gb with a heap of bad sectors currently
used in external Hd enclosure, and one 100Gb which seems in good
condition, currently in my laptop.

I'm upgrading my laptop, and I'd like to turn the old one into a myth
frontend or something similar, so I want to put the 60Gb in it.  I will
then use the 100Gb in my external enclosure for travelling, backups,
etc.

The reason the 60Gb has bad sectors (I think) is because I dropped it
(in it's enclosure). This was quite some time ago, and it doesn't seem
to be dying any further, but I haven't done any comparisons on the bad
sector count.  I use nearly 100% of the space available, and regularly
compare cksums, so if anything was deteriorating, I would know.

The question is: should I use it at all (for any use, external HD or
internal with operating system), or is it sufficient to let the fsck
tool mark the bad sectors and just keep using it?

Is there a way to monitor it's health in the external enclosure until
I get my new laptop?  Is counting the bad sectors enough?

thanks heaps!
  
this day in age, space is sooo cheap. atleast in the US. 60 gigs is 
weak. get a new drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache status

2008-05-04 Thread deface

Adam Carter wrote:

I'm running Apache 2.2.8 and want the status info, so i need to add

Location /server-status
SetHandler server-status

Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
Allow from .foo.com
/Location

But, in httpd.conf
IfDefine INFO
LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so
/IfDefine

So what's the syntax to define INFO?

Cheers,
Adam
  

use /etc/conf.d/apache2 .. add -D INFO to your APACHE2_OPTS

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