Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:48:30 +0100, Mick wrote: I have a box which has WinXP dual-booting with Gentoo. I would like to be able to have access to a clone of the existing WinXP installation, from within Gentoo. The original WinXP partition should be left well alone, as it is business critical. If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The MS profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate it for the VM hardware. This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to reactivate it before it goes inactive. You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you really need the clone? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] more webcam
Messages are Failed to query (1) UVC control 2 (unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2). May 4 11:14:07 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 3 (unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2). May 4 11:14:07 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 7 (unit 2) : -110 (exp. 2). May 4 11:14:08 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26). May 4 11:14:09 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26). May 4 11:14:09 extreme uvcvideo: Failed to query (135) UVC control 2 (unit 2) : -32 (exp. 2). May 4 11:14:09 extreme gqcam[5891]: segfault at 809a000 ip 080548c0 sp 40a4ff50 error 4 in gqcam[8048000+e000] /var/log/messages [converted] 613L, 45631C The driver and cam are seen lsusb Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08ce Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 5000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External) Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13fd:1650 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:0a02 Logitech, Inc. Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 extreme gav # lsmod Module Size Used by uvcvideo 40580 0 compat_ioctl32 1536 1 uvcvideo videodev 27520 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat12036 2 uvcvideo,videodev extreme gav # The /dev/video sim link disappears on reboot tho'. Getting this working is a nightmare! anyone pls help. gs -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
Hi Mark, Mark Knecht a écrit : [...] happen I have a way to restore where I am today. Since the disk usage is currently about 4GB it seems like a great time to do it. Is this possible? I think it's essentially what the stage 3 file is that I use when I install, isn't it? If you don't export stage3 and /usr/portage/ files, your backup will be lighter. The portage tree shouldn't be backed up because it shall be outdated when you'll restore, and emerge --sync will bring it back (except if you plan to restore in two weeks and have a low speed connection so you use emerge-delta-webrsync, but in that case you already know why you need to keep the tree). For stage3, you can safely discard it. Cf. exclude-dires in man tar From the running system here's what things look like right now: laptop1 ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 15820524 3641240 11375636 25% / udev 10240 172 10068 2% /dev /dev/sda6 1320272189304 1063900 16% /var /dev/sda7 10278304312012 9444184 4% /home shm1003844 0 1003844 0% /dev/shm laptop1 ~ # Tip: use df -h and put it as an alias (alias df='df -h' in .bashrc) ;) My thought is to boot using the install CD, mount a USB drive at /mnt/gentoo, then create a mount point 'backup' on the USB drive to mount each of the 3 partitions I want to back up one at a time. ( /, /var and /home) Then I'll mount each partition by itself and use tar to create a single file for each partition where that file gets written on the USB drive. When I'm done I have 3 files. Thus, you would be able to restore only one partition if needed, and there is less chance that all your archive becomes corrupted. I would process the same way. You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you can bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up if very painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . And it saves a *lot* of time when restoring (especially when there is @$#! vista partitions with more sectors than there is really on the disk...) Restore would be to create the partitions anew, untar, install grub from in the chroot, and reboot. So, restore would be a dd command for the MBR, and a mkfs on your partitions, then untar your backups. So you wouldn't even need to chroot Is this a reasonable way to go? Is there something easier? (That seems pretty easy to me...) It is reasonable, for one single computer. If you've more to manage, look at dedicated software, or more complex solution as in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup I don't want to create images of the partitions because I might want to put the data onto a different drive or in a different configuration. (Like no /var or something.) With a separate backup of the MBR, you're free to restore it or not ;) But if you want to be able to adjust your partition tables, leave free space on the drive and take a look at LVM, very powerful and easy to use by now (there's a good tutorial on howtoforge with a debian VMWare virtual machine) If this makes sense then what commands would I want to use to do this correctly. Presumably it needs to tar up links, file system permissions, and everything else. Since the Quick Install guide uses You *must* keep permissions of your files, so if you use tar, use -p option (cf. man), as if you use cp, use -p option. Or is there more to it? Yep, that's it. Restore mbr, mkfs, mount, untar, sync(or umount), reboot I'm rambling here so I'll hope for a quick answer and then give it a try. Thanks in advance, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time
hello list, recently i began having problems when trying to run gaupol, a subtitle editor. it fails thus: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/gaupol, line 18, in module import gaupol.gtk File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gaupol/gtk/__init__.py, line 44, in module gobject.threads_init() RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time yesterday i installed deluge (a bittorrent client) and it crashes with the same error: File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deluge/interface.py, line 1041, in start gobject.threads_init() RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time i searched the web but i couldn't find anything useful. supposedly this happens when pygtk is compiled without threads support, but the ebuild doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i see the option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk *should* have threads enabled. any ideas? best, lj -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:21:47 +0200, Jil Larner wrote: You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you can bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up if very painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . The MBR contains only the primary partitions. If you have an extended partition, you will need to use sfdisk to make a separate backup of the logical partition table. -- Neil Bothwick Crayons can take you more places than starships. * Guinan signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP
On 5/4/08, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:48:30 +0100, Mick wrote: I have a box which has WinXP dual-booting with Gentoo. I would like to be able to have access to a clone of the existing WinXP installation, from within Gentoo. The original WinXP partition should be left well alone, as it is business critical. If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The MS profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate it for the VM hardware. This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to reactivate it before it goes inactive. You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you really need the clone? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list If i recall right you could boot windows with different profiles, which would be just different hardware configurations, also i dont think corporate versions of windows says anything about the activation. -- Akseli Ollikainen -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
Jil Neil, Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try today. It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should the worst happen. Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it. Cheers, Mark On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Jil Larner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Mark Knecht a écrit : [...] happen I have a way to restore where I am today. Since the disk usage is currently about 4GB it seems like a great time to do it. Is this possible? I think it's essentially what the stage 3 file is that I use when I install, isn't it? If you don't export stage3 and /usr/portage/ files, your backup will be lighter. The portage tree shouldn't be backed up because it shall be outdated when you'll restore, and emerge --sync will bring it back (except if you plan to restore in two weeks and have a low speed connection so you use emerge-delta-webrsync, but in that case you already know why you need to keep the tree). For stage3, you can safely discard it. Cf. exclude-dires in man tar From the running system here's what things look like right now: laptop1 ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 15820524 3641240 11375636 25% / udev 10240 172 10068 2% /dev /dev/sda6 1320272189304 1063900 16% /var /dev/sda7 10278304312012 9444184 4% /home shm1003844 0 1003844 0% /dev/shm laptop1 ~ # Tip: use df -h and put it as an alias (alias df='df -h' in .bashrc) ;) My thought is to boot using the install CD, mount a USB drive at /mnt/gentoo, then create a mount point 'backup' on the USB drive to mount each of the 3 partitions I want to back up one at a time. ( /, /var and /home) Then I'll mount each partition by itself and use tar to create a single file for each partition where that file gets written on the USB drive. When I'm done I have 3 files. Thus, you would be able to restore only one partition if needed, and there is less chance that all your archive becomes corrupted. I would process the same way. You also ought to backup the full MBR, which is a good practice, so you can bring back your boot sector and the partition table. Backing it up if very painless, just a dd command, cf. http://gentoo-wiki.com/MBR . And it saves a *lot* of time when restoring (especially when there is @$#! vista partitions with more sectors than there is really on the disk...) Restore would be to create the partitions anew, untar, install grub from in the chroot, and reboot. So, restore would be a dd command for the MBR, and a mkfs on your partitions, then untar your backups. So you wouldn't even need to chroot Is this a reasonable way to go? Is there something easier? (That seems pretty easy to me...) It is reasonable, for one single computer. If you've more to manage, look at dedicated software, or more complex solution as in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup I don't want to create images of the partitions because I might want to put the data onto a different drive or in a different configuration. (Like no /var or something.) With a separate backup of the MBR, you're free to restore it or not ;) But if you want to be able to adjust your partition tables, leave free space on the drive and take a look at LVM, very powerful and easy to use by now (there's a good tutorial on howtoforge with a debian VMWare virtual machine) If this makes sense then what commands would I want to use to do this correctly. Presumably it needs to tar up links, file system permissions, and everything else. Since the Quick Install guide uses You *must* keep permissions of your files, so if you use tar, use -p option (cf. man), as if you use cp, use -p option. Or is there more to it? Yep, that's it. Restore mbr, mkfs, mount, untar, sync(or umount), reboot I'm rambling here so I'll hope for a quick answer and then give it a try. Thanks in advance, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!
Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them quite handy already. Any tips or tricks for me? Sorry for off-topic! -- Akseli Ollikainen -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
Hello list, svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's repos: $ sudo layman -a vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk' * Failed to add overlay vmware. * Error was: Adding the overlay failed! $ sudo layman -S * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/gnome /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * * Success: * -- * * Successfully synchronized overlay desktop-effects. * Successfully synchronized overlay gnome. * * Errors: * -- * * Failed to sync overlay mozilla. * Error was: Syncing overlay mozilla returned status 256! * * Failed to sync overlay sunrise. * Error was: Syncing overlay sunrise returned status 256! * Anyone knows more about it? Thanks! Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Using package.use
In man portage I see examples of using package.use Its listed with address /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage like this: some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag) I want to subtract a use flag so trying: (tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not acceptable unquoted: net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba Neither way appears to have an effect on emerge -vuDNp tcpdump It still comes up with positive samba use flag. And then when actual emerging is done, dire warnings are given about using `samba' use flag. I'd hoped to use package.use so as not to have to mess with tcpcump individualy. Is my syntax wrong or some other problem? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using package.use
On Sun, 04 May 2008 10:54:04 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In man portage I see examples of using package.use Its listed with address /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage like this: some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag) I want to subtract a use flag so trying: (tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not acceptable unquoted: net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba Neither way appears to have an effect on emerge -vuDNp tcpdump It still comes up with positive samba use flag. And then when actual emerging is done, dire warnings are given about using `samba' use flag. I'd hoped to use package.use so as not to have to mess with tcpcump individualy. Is my syntax wrong or some other problem? try: net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba -- Ken69267 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [off-topic] Hello all!
Akselii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any tips or tricks for me? tip # 1: You will get much better results asking something specific and maybe some details of what yov've tried. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using package.use
On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In man portage I see examples of using package.use Its listed with address /etc/portage/package.use and shows usage like this: some/package:useflag(to add a specific use flag) I want to subtract a use flag so trying: (tried with and without quotes just in case the dash (-) was not acceptable unquoted: net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba It's net-analyser/tcpdump -samba ^ no colon space present no quotes -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello list, svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's repos: $ sudo layman -a vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk' * Failed to add overlay vmware. * Error was: Adding the overlay failed! $ sudo layman -S * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed' I use the same subversion version as you: nazgul x11-themes # eix subversion [I] dev-util/subversion Available versions: 1.4.5 1.4.6 (~)1.4.6-r2 (~)1.5.0_rc4 {+webdav-neon apache2 bash-completion berkdb debug doc elibc_FreeBSD emacs extras java nls nowebdav perl python ruby sasl svnserve vim-syntax webdav-serf} Installed versions: 1.5.0_rc4(14:07:33 05/01/08)(apache2 bash-completion java perl python sasl vim-syntax -+webdav-neon -berkdb -debug -doc -elibc_FreeBSD -emacs -extras -nls -ruby -webdav-serf) My layman version: nazgul x11-themes # eix layman [I] app-portage/layman Available versions: 1.0.6 1.0.10 1.1.1 (~)1.1.1-r1 {test} Installed versions: 1.1.1-r1(16:34:54 02/02/08)(-test) I use mozilla and sunrise too, and they work fine here: nazgul x11-themes # layman -S * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /var/portage/local/layman/enlightenment... At revision 140. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /var/portage/local/layman/mozilla... At revision 147. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /var/portage/local/layman/sunrise... U/var/portage/local/layman/sunrise/net-libs/fec/Manifest ... A /var/portage/local/layman/sunrise/sci-mathematics/dataplot/dataplot-20080225-r1.ebuild Updated to revision 6149. * * Success: * -- * * Successfully synchronized overlay enlightenment. * Successfully synchronized overlay mozilla. * Successfully synchronized overlay sunrise. I've noticed very occasional similar behaviour this end in the past. 'layman -d overlay ; layman -a overlay' has always worked for me. What happens if you try this? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Akselii wrote: Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them quite handy already. Any tips or tricks for me? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
On (04/05/08 12:49) Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello list, svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's repos: $ sudo layman -a vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk' * Failed to add overlay vmware. * Error was: Adding the overlay failed! $ sudo layman -S * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/gnome /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * * Success: * -- * * Successfully synchronized overlay desktop-effects. * Successfully synchronized overlay gnome. * * Errors: * -- * * Failed to sync overlay mozilla. * Error was: Syncing overlay mozilla returned status 256! * * Failed to sync overlay sunrise. * Error was: Syncing overlay sunrise returned status 256! * Anyone knows more about it? Thanks! Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Had similar problems with neon library which interfaces svn with http:// The testing svn seems to have some new USE-flags 'webdav-neon' Try downgrading to stable to see if it works. Some wild guesses here but HTH. Rumen pgpYssxDMj8AF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's repos: $ sudo layman -a vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk' * Failed to add overlay vmware. * Error was: Adding the overlay failed! According to the subversion FAQ[1], that could be svn having trouble loading the ra_dav plugin for http:// Since this seems like a package installation problem, and Alan has it working with his version of svn, please `emerge --sync` and reinstall svn to see if that fixes things for you. - Pariksheet [1] http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#unrecognized-url-error -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Only a - in top column WCHAN since downgrade to gcc 4.1.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, since I gcc downgraded to version 4.1.2 I have in the top column WCHAN only a -. This applies to all processes. The System.map is available in /usr/src/linux. It works after installation, that was late 2007, with gcc 4.1.2 and it works with gcc 4.2.2 but I had to downgrade to gcc 4.1.2 because of build problems of firefox 2.0.0.14. I tried a symbolically link of System.map to the root directory. I also tried it with the boot partition permanently mounted and I re-emerged sys-process/procps-3.2.7, where top belongs to, too. But the behaviour of top is always the same, WCHAN shows only a -. Has someone encountered a similar behaviour with top? Or does someone know what I'm missing? Thanks in advance W. Canis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgd4t4ACgkQKT9zBKF0twXdgwCbBPY5so2UTKxWmblmS8WNvV7d YoIAnREiSL1QuDcDQYLMyP9r+G86zeUM =XxFw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Using package.use
Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba net-analyzer/tcpdump:-samba Neither way appears to have an effect on emerge -vuDNp tcpdump [...] try: net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba It works ... thanks .. I was confused with this info which is apparently really about something else lines 560-592 of 630 [...] Format: - comments begin with # - package:use flag - description Example: app-editors/nano:justify - Toggles the justify option dev-libs/DirectFB:fusion - Adds Multi Application support games-emulation/xmess:net - Adds network support [...] To be fair it also shows the syntax you showed in another section. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using package.use
On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try: net-analyzer/tcpdump -samba It works ... thanks .. I was confused with this info which is apparently really about something else lines 560-592 of 630 [...] Format: - comments begin with # - package:use flag - description Example: app-editors/nano:justify - Toggles the justify option dev-libs/DirectFB:fusion - Adds Multi Application support games-emulation/xmess:net - Adds network support That's the syntax for ${PORTDIR}/profiles/use*, which documents what USE FLAGS are intended for. The gentoo devs edit those files when they add/update flags to the system. To be fair it also shows the syntax you showed in another section. :-) Documentation - wonderful stuff. If you find the right chapter in the right document, that it. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Rumen Yotov wrote: Had similar problems with neon library which interfaces svn with http:// The testing svn seems to have some new USE-flags 'webdav-neon' Try downgrading to stable to see if it works. Some wild guesses here but HTH. USE=-webdav-neon works here -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
Quoting Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: USE=-webdav-neon works here Hm. I have enabled boths webdav-something USE flags -which were disabled- and now it works. Thanks everyone! Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!
Ask a question and you'll be answered. But first look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page ! It has tons of tips! ;) 2008/5/4, Akselii [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them quite handy already. Any tips or tricks for me? Sorry for off-topic! -- Akseli Ollikainen -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time
On Sunday 04 May 2008, luis jure wrote: hello list, recently i began having problems when trying to run gaupol, a subtitle editor. it fails thus: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/gaupol, line 18, in module import gaupol.gtk File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gaupol/gtk/__init__.py, line 44, in module gobject.threads_init() RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time yesterday i installed deluge (a bittorrent client) and it crashes with the same error: File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deluge/interface.py, line 1041, in start gobject.threads_init() RuntimeError: pygtk threading disabled at compile time i searched the web but i couldn't find anything useful. supposedly this happens when pygtk is compiled without threads support, but the ebuild doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i see the option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk *should* have threads enabled. any ideas? I assume that you have tried the basics like /usr/sbin/python-updater and revdep-rebuild -X -v -p ? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP
On Sunday 04 May 2008, Akselii wrote: On 5/4/08, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: If you copy it to a VM, you are running it on different hardware. The MS profit-protection system will kick in, requiring you to reactivate it for the VM hardware. This isn't to say it can't be done. On the contrary: you can clone the partition and boot it just fine, only you'll have (IIRC) three days to reactivate it before it goes inactive. You say you'd like access to a clone from within Gentoo - is it sufficient to be able to mount the existing partition read-only? Do you really need the clone? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list If i recall right you could boot windows with different profiles, which would be just different hardware configurations, also i dont think corporate versions of windows says anything about the activation. Thank you All, I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the same partition image it will not ask me to re-register it. The thing is that I do not want to interfere at all with the original installation/partition, and there are enough warnings on the Virtualbox manual to convince me that I should not risk it (not with this installation anyway). When you say it'll take three days for the registration to lock up, does this mean that it will only kick in if I leave Virtualbox running for three days continuously, or will it know/remember how long I have been running it since the very first time I booted it up? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time
El Sun, 4 May 2008 19:30:25 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I assume that you have tried the basics like /usr/sbin/python-updater and revdep-rebuild -X -v -p ? hi, thanks for your answer. yes, i did that, and i did recompile pygtk several times and a few other packages that i could think could be related, just in case. in fact i asked the list before doing the last i could think of, that is emerge -e pygtk (well, the last i can think of is reinstalling the whole system...) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP
On Sun, 4 May 2008 19:47:13 +0100, Mick wrote: I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the same partition image it will not ask me to re-register it. But it's not the same hardware, you are now running it on the VB virtual hardware. -- Neil Bothwick Smoking Can Damage Your HealthUnless us Non-Smokers do it first! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jil Neil, Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try today. It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should the worst happen. Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it. Cheers, Mark Hi all, So I'm working on this and ran into a couple of questions about tar. 1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with files at the wrong level every time so far. Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories - /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others: mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo [[ This is empty except for a mount point called TarPoint ]] cd /mnt/gentoo mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint [[ The partition I want to backup ]] Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive (hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo cd /mnt/gentoo scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 . tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2 and I get the system directory hierarchy back again. 2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or untarring to build the environment. What I'm seeing is that the command tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2 generates lots of messages about file times being in the future. Maybe this won't matter if I use the backup later than 8 hours from the time I make it but in the short term will it cause any problems? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pygtk threading disabled at compile time
On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:49:23 -0300 luis jure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ebuild doesn't have an USE option for threads, and when it compiles i see the option --enable-threads flashing by, so i guess pygtk *should* have threads enabled. any ideas? best, lj Hi, You might want to try this: echo EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-threads /etc/make.conf emerge -1 dev-python/pygtk If things are still not OK you could re-emerge all packs which depend on pygtk. To get a list of those: equery depends dev-python/pygtk Then you can remark/delete the EXTRA_ECONF line from make.conf. HTH -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jil Neil, Thanks for the really great information! I'm going to give this a try today. It strikes me that to test my backup I could create a chroot on the very system I'm backing up. (Or some other system.) I follow the procedure we're outlining here using the install CD and when it's done I reboot the system, create a few small partitions in some extra disk space, untar the files, chroot into that environment, run some commands to test things, and then put the tar'ed files away for safe keeping feeling pretty good that everything is where I need it should the worst happen. Again, thanks for the info. I do appreciate it. Cheers, Mark Hi all, So I'm working on this and ran into a couple of questions about tar. 1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with files at the wrong level every time so far. Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories - /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others: mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo [[ This is empty except for a mount point called TarPoint ]] cd /mnt/gentoo mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint [[ The partition I want to backup ]] Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive (hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo cd /mnt/gentoo scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 . tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2 and I get the system directory hierarchy back again. 2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or untarring to build the environment. What I'm seeing is that the command tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2 generates lots of messages about file times being in the future. Maybe this won't matter if I use the backup later than 8 hours from the time I make it but in the short term will it cause any problems? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Look into what's called a stage 4 backup: http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4) I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine. It already excludes the appropriate files: /dev /lost+found /mnt /proc /sys /tmp /usr/portage /usr/src /var/log /var/tmp /var/db /var/cache/edb It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical), though you could edit the script to do that. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Virtualbox-ing existing WinXP
Mick wrote: On Sunday 04 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2008 19:47:13 +0100, Mick wrote: I assumed (wrongly) that since it is the same physical hardware and the same partition image it will not ask me to re-register it. But it's not the same hardware, you are now running it on the VB virtual hardware. Sure, but it's the same physical drive IDE controller, no? Yes, but the way a virtual machine works is that it creates its own set of hardware and emulates that hardware for the OS you're running. The VM software itself acts as a bridge between calls made to this virtual hardware and the true hardware in your system. The three days is from the time you first boot the machine in the VM - it remembers, even if it's shut down. -Tim -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look into what's called a stage 4 backup: http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4) I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine. It already excludes the appropriate files: /dev /lost+found /mnt /proc /sys /tmp /usr/portage /usr/src /var/log /var/tmp /var/db /var/cache/edb It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical), though you could edit the script to do that. -- - Mark Shields Thanks Mark. That looks interesting. I'm not clear about the process of actually making the backup. This get run on a live file system? I suppose the things it excludes if it does are the things that might be changing? - Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] using a HD with bad sectors
Hi all, I have two 2.5in HD's, one 60Gb with a heap of bad sectors currently used in external Hd enclosure, and one 100Gb which seems in good condition, currently in my laptop. I'm upgrading my laptop, and I'd like to turn the old one into a myth frontend or something similar, so I want to put the 60Gb in it. I will then use the 100Gb in my external enclosure for travelling, backups, etc. The reason the 60Gb has bad sectors (I think) is because I dropped it (in it's enclosure). This was quite some time ago, and it doesn't seem to be dying any further, but I haven't done any comparisons on the bad sector count. I use nearly 100% of the space available, and regularly compare cksums, so if anything was deteriorating, I would know. The question is: should I use it at all (for any use, external HD or internal with operating system), or is it sufficient to let the fsck tool mark the bad sectors and just keep using it? Is there a way to monitor it's health in the external enclosure until I get my new laptop? Is counting the bad sectors enough? thanks heaps! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Better late than never. -- Titus Livius (Livy) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look into what's called a stage 4 backup: http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_System_Backup_Script_(stage4) I've had to actually use it once, and it worked fine. It already excludes the appropriate files: /dev /lost+found /mnt /proc /sys /tmp /usr/portage /usr/src /var/log /var/tmp /var/db /var/cache/edb It doesn't back up the MBR or the partition tables (primary or logical), though you could edit the script to do that. -- - Mark Shields Thanks Mark. That looks interesting. I'm not clear about the process of actually making the backup. This get run on a live file system? I suppose the things it excludes if it does are the things that might be changing? - Mark So I tried this out. Although I had a couple of directory issues getting it ready to go it did run eventually. My issue at this point is a matter of gaining confidence that it backed up the right stuff. Considering my file system usage the file size seems smallish at 1.2G. lightning ~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 9.2G 6.5G 2.3G 75% / udev 10M 184K 9.9M 2% /dev /dev/sda6 3.7G 740M 2.8G 21% /usr/src /dev/sda8 14G 11G 2.5G 82% /home shm 497M 0 497M 0% /dev/shm none 497M 0 497M 0% /tmp/jack lightning ~ # The terminal where it ran said it backed up about 3.3GB into a 1.2GB file. My file system usage (for a minimal backup) is roughly the 6.5GB on / since minimal doesn't back up /home and /usr/src which I convieniently have on separate partitions anyway. I wonder if half of that 6.6GB really isn't needed? Anyway, the scripts seemed to have worked, but how to verify? That's the question. Could I restore this backup into a different subdirectory somewhere and then chroot into it? - Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!
On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 18:34 +0300, Akselii wrote: Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them quite handy already. welcome! Any tips or tricks for me? yes, don't be put off by answers that you don't expect, or that seem stupid! Sorry for off-topic! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au You can get there from here, but why on earth would you want to? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:12:08PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) I'm having trouble figuring how to best run tar. I end up with files at the wrong level every time so far. Assume I first mount a partition that's empty, and then mount a partition I want to save that contains a number of system directories - /, tmp, etc. lib, mnt and others: mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo [[ This is empty except for a mount point called TarPoint ]] cd /mnt/gentoo mount /dev/sda5 TarPoint [[ The partition I want to backup ]] Now I can see all my directories under TarPoint. What's the best way to run tar, creating a file called SYSTEM.tar.bz2 in /mnt/gentoo, so that later, when I have an empty partition on a different hard drive (hda) where I'm going to restore the system, I can do this mount /dev/hda11 /mnt/gentoo cd /mnt/gentoo scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:SYSTEM.tar.bz2 . tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2 To extract bzip2 files with tar, you need to add the j option. and I get the system directory hierarchy back again. 2) This laptop is a dual boot machine so the system clock is set to local when I'm in my Gentoo environment. When I drop into the install CD I presume it's set to UTC as is the standard. My question has to do with any requirements to setting time prior to making the tar ball or untarring to build the environment. What I'm seeing is that the command tar xcjf SYSTEM.tar.bz2 You have conflicting options there. To extract, use x. To create, use c. generates lots of messages about file times being in the future. Maybe this won't matter if I use the backup later than 8 hours from the time I make it but in the short term will it cause any problems? Any problems? Probably. They may be inconsequential though. Follow the instructions below for a possible solution to your problem. First, make sure your time is set correctly under UTC with the date command. For help with it, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 Then, you might try setting the TZ variable in the shell environment to the timezone in which the tar'ed files resided. Afterwards, untar the tarball. Not sure how this will work in an install environment. -- Ian Graeme Hilt ian.hilt (at) gmail.com GnuPG key: 0x4AFC1EE3 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache status
I'm running Apache 2.2.8 and want the status info, so i need to add Location /server-status SetHandler server-status Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from .foo.com /Location But, in httpd.conf IfDefine INFO LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so /IfDefine So what's the syntax to define INFO? Cheers, Adam -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] using a HD with bad sectors
Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I have two 2.5in HD's, one 60Gb with a heap of bad sectors currently used in external Hd enclosure, and one 100Gb which seems in good condition, currently in my laptop. I'm upgrading my laptop, and I'd like to turn the old one into a myth frontend or something similar, so I want to put the 60Gb in it. I will then use the 100Gb in my external enclosure for travelling, backups, etc. The reason the 60Gb has bad sectors (I think) is because I dropped it (in it's enclosure). This was quite some time ago, and it doesn't seem to be dying any further, but I haven't done any comparisons on the bad sector count. I use nearly 100% of the space available, and regularly compare cksums, so if anything was deteriorating, I would know. The question is: should I use it at all (for any use, external HD or internal with operating system), or is it sufficient to let the fsck tool mark the bad sectors and just keep using it? Is there a way to monitor it's health in the external enclosure until I get my new laptop? Is counting the bad sectors enough? thanks heaps! this day in age, space is sooo cheap. atleast in the US. 60 gigs is weak. get a new drive. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache status
Adam Carter wrote: I'm running Apache 2.2.8 and want the status info, so i need to add Location /server-status SetHandler server-status Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from .foo.com /Location But, in httpd.conf IfDefine INFO LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so /IfDefine So what's the syntax to define INFO? Cheers, Adam use /etc/conf.d/apache2 .. add -D INFO to your APACHE2_OPTS -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list