Re: [gentoo-user] ATI video card with water cooler
On Donnerstag 11 Dezember 2008, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Dezember 2008, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I've been looking for an ATI graphics card with a water cooling system built in. I'm very tired of listen to the roar of a video card fan. Any suggestions? It does not need to be the latest smokin card, just reasonable at video games and quite as can be. R580 engine or above. Low dB is the primary concern, but it must be decent at video games. (PCI express 16) is the slot it must fit into. I prefer ATI over nvidia. After days of googling and nothing attractive (sub 200 USD) and pre assembled, I'm more open to the cost effectiveness of DIY. Any suggestions are most appreciated. Your experiences with DIY water cooled video cards and your happiness with such endeavors is of keen interest to me, regardless of the type of video card. It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant aftermarket heat sink preinstalled (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of use. passive is nice - but you need good air movement throughout the case - or everything will warm uo a lot. So passive cooled card does not solve the noise problem - it just moves it to the case ventilation. That's true, he only specifically asked about video card noise and that's all I considered, I didn't even think about the case. I have a gigantic case with numerous intake ventilating fans and a nice warm breeze blowing out of the back of it :) But, it's still quieter than it was with the added noise of one extra fan. If he wants a totally fanless system then obviously there is more to worry about. my case isn't big, but I spent a lot of time to optimize the air flow. At the moment I have one 12cm in the back at 1080rpm and the PSUs fan at 1080. If I need more air, there is another slow 12cm fan in the front and a 9,2cm fan in the side. And it was worth it. I can cool my X2 6000+ with a Scythe Shuriken. A friend of mine can't cool his a lot less energy hungry Intel CPU - because the air flow in his case sucks.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Offline reading of online (flash) magazines
Momesso Andrea schrieb: Does anyone know an easy way to download for offline usage such a magazine? http://viewer.zmags.com/showmag.php?mid=wrprss The ideal would be to be able to convert it in something more portable (and user friendly) such as PS or PDF. === Momesso Andrea http://topperh.blogspot.com === Maybe this will help you: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1468
[gentoo-user] Re: OpenVPN and IPsec
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Well, the router is a Cisco clone so it might work - thanks for the tip! Adtran perchance? If so, drop me some private email James
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG
Return Receipt Your Re: [gentoo-user] How to tie module name to Kernel CONFIG document: wasroland.punta...@br-automation.com received by: at:12.12.2008 15:40:44
[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant aftermarket heat sink preinstalled (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of use. Hmmm, This sounds very interesting. I'm not ready to pony up the hundreds of dollars for retail water cooling systems. So I think now I'm going your route on passive video card cooling to get a reasonable priced 'second-tier' gaming system under gentoo. Beside my target system is only and AMD 4600, but, it has a fan over the CPU, with a schroud that directly exhaused the hot cpu air, directly out the side of the case. Very quite and I got it on a closeout from tiger direct. I do not mind a little noise, just not the high pitch squealing of a fan on a video card... Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? This newegg pages shows this About the GeForce 9600: Ports HDMI1 via Adapter DVI 2 TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out Did your card come with the DVI-to-HDMI adapter? So do you know anything about getting HDMI out of the the video card? What does the Adapter look like? HDMI has software based negotiation protocol, so theoretically, you do not have to do all of the gymnastics with xorg.conf to get the highest and best resolution, when you plug the video card into a large screen HDMI equipped LCD monitor/TV that has HDMI inputs. Does the GeForce 9600 auto-negotiate over HDMI? Has anyone experimented with a Gentoo system auto-negotiating resolution from a video card with HDMI output to a LCD TV with HDMI? curiously, James
[gentoo-user] ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure
Whenever I try to use an ebuild from bugs.gentoo.org in my local overlay these days, I get: # ebuild * manifest !!! /usr/local/portage/media-sound/songbird/songbird-bin-1.0.0.ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure. Does anyone know what's wrong? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant aftermarket heat sink preinstalled (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of use. Hmmm, This sounds very interesting. I'm not ready to pony up the hundreds of dollars for retail water cooling systems. So I think now I'm going your route on passive video card cooling to get a reasonable priced 'second-tier' gaming system under gentoo. Beside my target system is only and AMD 4600, but, it has a fan over the CPU, with a schroud that directly exhaused the hot cpu air, directly out the side of the case. Very quite and I got it on a closeout from tiger direct. I do not mind a little noise, just not the high pitch squealing of a fan on a video card... Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? with nvidia: nvidia-settings with ati: aticonfig --odgt
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure
Le Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:26:17 -0800, Grant a écrit : Does anyone know what's wrong? emerge --info please ?
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure
2008/12/12 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com: Whenever I try to use an ebuild from bugs.gentoo.org in my local overlay these days, I get: # ebuild * manifest !!! /usr/local/portage/media-sound/songbird/songbird-bin-1.0.0.ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure. I guess the problem is that the directory name (songbird) does not match to the ebuild name (songbird-bin). Correcting one of them should solve the problem. Tomas Does anyone know what's wrong? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure
Whenever I try to use an ebuild from bugs.gentoo.org in my local overlay these days, I get: # ebuild * manifest !!! /usr/local/portage/media-sound/songbird/songbird-bin-1.0.0.ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure. I guess the problem is that the directory name (songbird) does not match to the ebuild name (songbird-bin). Correcting one of them should solve the problem. That was it, thank you very much. - Grant Does anyone know what's wrong? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Grant wrote: Whenever I try to use an ebuild from bugs.gentoo.org in my local overlay these days, I get: # ebuild * manifest !!! /usr/local/portage/media-sound/songbird/songbird-bin-1.0.0.ebuild does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure. Does anyone know what's wrong? - Grant If the ebuild name is songbird-bin-version.ebuild, the package name should be songbird-bin, not songbird. Regards, Christophe L.
[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? with ati: aticonfig --odgt I have this installed: x11-drivers/ati-drivers Installed versions: 8.552-r2 So I get: fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series OpenGL version string: 2.1.8201 Release aticonfig --lsa * 0. 01:00.0 Radeon X1900 Series * - Default adapter aticonfig --odgt ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series So my guess is I missed something in the kernel config? James
[gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver
I did a recent emerge -uDNav world and most of my gnome packages are 2.24 now.2 issues: 1) Logout, shutdown, restart commands from gnome menu don't seem to be working. Nothing happens, no menu appears. Same goes for using the Power button applet. I can manually log myself out, of course, by doing killall gnome-session but that can't possibly be the Right Thing (tm). :) 2) The Lock Screen command, however, works and sends me to my screensaver. However, when I move the mouse and the password dialog reappears, the background is the default green splashscreen that comes with a new user. Weird. I don't know where to hunt to change the lock screen background, and I was pretty sure it was supposed to just be gnome-screensaver with a dialog on top. 3) While I'm at it, does anyone know a way to get the random pictures screen saver to select a specific folder without making a folder mess in my home folder called Pictures? I have my own sorting scheme of things and it's getting to me, also I don't want all of my pictures flying out on the screensaver ;D
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl woes MRO-Compat requires perl-5.10.0 [?!?!]
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:14:26 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com wrote: Michael Higgins schrieb am 11.12.2008 20:54: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:39:34 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com wrote: and why do you blame Gentoo in bug #250632? Because I don't know how to find out where the problem comes from. They at BGO say it is in overlay, resolved the bug invalid. Fine with me. [8] Well the bug was resolved as invalid as the ebuild is from an overlay (although Gentoo developers contribute to that one) and that are not supported. I think you just expressed yourself in the wrong way and you did not provide all the necessary information in your report. When looking at the MRO-Compat perl script it says need 5.006. So I think perl-5.10 is really an unnecessary high dependency. Um, exactly. ;-) The first sign of trouble. Being given via sync an ebuild which blocked updating my system with a *requirement* for 5.10.0 was the first sign of major ebuild problem... And, yes, it was fixed in response to my bug report after all. And as you may have seen that bug has been reopened (comment 4) after my comment and your issue is now resolved (comment 5) by removing this dependency. And, the person *actually responsible* for the wider error regarding suddenly masked packages (where they weren't marched before) emailed me *privately* with explanation. So, one fix via BGO, and one piece of private information for me to quiet my mind. All good! Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? with ati: aticonfig --odgt I have this installed: x11-drivers/ati-drivers Installed versions: 8.552-r2 So I get: fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series OpenGL version string: 2.1.8201 Release aticonfig --lsa * 0. 01:00.0 Radeon X1900 Series * - Default adapter aticonfig --odgt ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series So my guess is I missed something in the kernel config? no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc
[gentoo-user] Re: Desperately need advice on fixing a corrupt XFS partition
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've got an external USB hard drive adapter that apparently have been going bad, or maybe the drive is going bad, I don't know... It has died a few times in the last week. During that time I've been burning DVDs and trying to copy all of the data off of it, but it choked with about 130gb remaining and now, after hooking up a new adapter, XFS won't mount it. :( It's full of pictures and home movies and stuff. Sadly, this drive was part of my backup strategy. The files were all consolidated on this disk, where I was sorting and organizing them into nice DVD-sized chunks. I guess I wasn't fast enough. As an update, the Windows tool was totally useless and called it an unsupported partition type despite the website's claim to support XFS. I think it just scans the raw data and looks for signatures of JPG/AVI/MP3/etc on the disk, regardless of filesystem. The files it recovered had no filenames and would not have been fun to sort through. Now the good news, after making a backup of the drive, which miraculously completed without errors, I ran xfs_repair on it and it was able to locate the secondary superblock after about 30 minutes of scanning the disk. The log was corrupt, of course, so I had to zero it out, then mount followed by a clean unmount, then mount read only :) after that I have 99% of my files in tact. The most recently-written files before the last crash were lost, but everything else was there and is being copied off as we speak. :) As for the failure, I think the mechanics of the drive itself are going bad. There were no bad sectors, but using 3 different power sources the drive still has problems starting up about 2/3rd of the time. It's like a car that won't start. You can hear it trying to spin up, dying, trying again, dying, etc. What I don't know is if the cheap USB adapter could have passed some dirty electricity through to the drive and fried it somehow. Thanks to all who replied! Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de wrote: On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? with ati: aticonfig --odgt I have this installed: x11-drivers/ati-drivers Installed versions: 8.552-r2 So I get: fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1900 Series OpenGL version string: 2.1.8201 Release aticonfig --lsa * 0. 01:00.0 Radeon X1900 Series * - Default adapter aticonfig --odgt ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series So my guess is I missed something in the kernel config? no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc And for Nvidia I think you need: Option Coolbits 1 In your Xorg.conf (I think it enables the temperature monitoring and overclocking stuff in nvidia-settings)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc odgt not odgc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:50 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: It's not ATI or water cooled, but I got a GeForce 9600 with a giant aftermarket heat sink preinstalled (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134050), totally passive fanless and silent, for under $100 at the time I bought it. I get steady 200fps at 1600x1200 in Sauerbraten, and FIFA 09 plays nice and smooth in wine. Temperature readings have been consistently low. I don't think water cooling is necessary if you're not doing anything special to torture the card (unless you just want to do it just for the fun of doing it, of course). I've gone the fanless, heat sink route on 2 systems now and have had no problems at all after having 2 video card fans die after less than 1 year each of use. Hmmm, This sounds very interesting. I'm not ready to pony up the hundreds of dollars for retail water cooling systems. So I think now I'm going your route on passive video card cooling to get a reasonable priced 'second-tier' gaming system under gentoo. Beside my target system is only and AMD 4600, but, it has a fan over the CPU, with a schroud that directly exhaused the hot cpu air, directly out the side of the case. Very quite and I got it on a closeout from tiger direct. I do not mind a little noise, just not the high pitch squealing of a fan on a video card... Any techniques, available in Gentoo, to monitor the temperature of and of the new video cards? This newegg pages shows this About the GeForce 9600: Ports HDMI1 via Adapter DVI 2 TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out Did your card come with the DVI-to-HDMI adapter? So do you know anything about getting HDMI out of the the video card? What does the Adapter look like? HDMI has software based negotiation protocol, so theoretically, you do not have to do all of the gymnastics with xorg.conf to get the highest and best resolution, when you plug the video card into a large screen HDMI equipped LCD monitor/TV that has HDMI inputs. Does the GeForce 9600 auto-negotiate over HDMI? Hi, I've never tried the HDMI, so I can't say how it behaves, but yeah it came with a DVI to HDMI dongle thing. As far as I know the video signal in HDMI and DVI are identical, and that HDMI is basically like DVI with sound. I could be wrong about that though. One thing to beware of with this particular card is that it is HUGE, both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know if it would fit.
[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc aticonfig --od-enable ATI Overdrive(TM) enabled aticonfig --odgc ERROR - Get clocks failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series I never used aticonfig before. It only runs from a user's shell. Root cannot run it? aticonfig --odgc bash: aticonfig: command not found James
[gentoo-user] Postfix + mySQL
Hi List, I've been configuring a mail server with Postfix+mySQL+Courier+Squirrelmail according to [1]. Courier IMAP is working with the mySQL authentication, but I can't send mails via postfix. When I send an email I get an unkwon user error. I suspect that postfix is not using the defined mySQL table for some reason. I tried to see the virtual map with postmap but I get a strange error: server postfix # postmap mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-maps.cf postmap: fatal: unsupported map type: mysql I emerged mySQL with the mysql flag enabled. Also if I list the support map types I get: server postfix # postconf -m btree cidr environ hash mysql pcre proxy regexp static unix Any clue? Thanks! -- fede [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml
[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I've never tried the HDMI, so I can't say how it behaves, but yeah it came with a DVI to HDMI dongle thing. As far as I know the video signal in HDMI and DVI are identical, and that HDMI is basically like DVI with sound. I could be wrong about that though. Electrically DVI-D and HDMI are compatible, with converter (your dongle). HDMI does run software based protocols that dvi do not have the capability to run/understand. That why you need and HDMI output on the video card directly to get into auto negotiated protocols between HDMI devices. This is all not to be confused with Intel's evil HDCP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP This is one aspect of why I never purchase anything from Intel. Evil, Evil Evil... One thing to beware of with this particular card is that it is HUGE, both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know if it would fit. My case is 7 wide. Nice to know. I did find a passively cool 8500GT but I'm not sure it will be sufficient for gaming: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ item-details.asp?EdpNo=4283330CatId=1826 How would I know if this will work very well with bzflag (that the game my kids are hooked on...)? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I've never tried the HDMI, so I can't say how it behaves, but yeah it came with a DVI to HDMI dongle thing. As far as I know the video signal in HDMI and DVI are identical, and that HDMI is basically like DVI with sound. I could be wrong about that though. Electrically DVI-D and HDMI are compatible, with converter (your dongle). HDMI does run software based protocols that dvi do not have the capability to run/understand. That why you need and HDMI output on the video card directly to get into auto negotiated protocols between HDMI devices. This is all not to be confused with Intel's evil HDCP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP This is one aspect of why I never purchase anything from Intel. Evil, Evil Evil... One thing to beware of with this particular card is that it is HUGE, both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know if it would fit. My case is 7 wide. Nice to know. I did find a passively cool 8500GT but I'm not sure it will be sufficient for gaming: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ item-details.asp?EdpNo=4283330CatId=1826 How would I know if this will work very well with bzflag (that the game my kids are hooked on...)? My previous card was an 8500GT in fact, and other than the fan dying and causing the card to melt, it was fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
On Freitag 12 Dezember 2008, James wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: no, that has nothing to do with the kernel. Maybe you need to turn on overdrive first. Try aticonfig --od-enable and then --odgc aticonfig --od-enable ATI Overdrive(TM) enabled aticonfig --odgc ERROR - Get clocks failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series that was a type --odgt. aticonfig --help has lots of usefull info. I never used aticonfig before. It only runs from a user's shell. Root cannot run it? aticonfig --odgc bash: aticonfig: command not found well, aticonfig is in /opt. opt may not be in your root's path.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP
On Friday 12 December 2008 08:46:00 Heinrichs, Dirk (EXT-Capgemini - DE/Dusseldorf) wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 11.12.2008, 16:59 -0600 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: These URLS seem to be loading kind of slow right now: Hmm, unfortunately they don't load at all because of DNS failure. The machine name is unknown. Just put the files into a gzipped tar archive and attach that. OK, now that I'm back home they work just fine. Stay tuned... Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl woes MRO-Compat requires perl-5.10.0 [?!?!]
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:15:36 -0800 Andrey Falko ma3ox...@gmail.com wrote: It is about catalystframework, which is in the perl-experimental overlay (a misnomer if ever there was one, experimental). It is about perl 5.10.0, which is long overdue for making it into the tree (never mind just into an overlay). You want to upgrade to perl 5.10.0 on an experimental/testing box? Or do you need perl 5.10.0 for a production environment? Its an upgrade. New features. I want it. Others are already using it. Wah! '-) Seriously, 5.8 is being deprecated. Perl6 is what is experimental. Just check what distros have perl 5.10 and which don't. It doesn't look good for Gentoo! Also, it is about the (likely) painful migration that will come and how to get informed now. If there is a migration to perl 5.10.0 in the future, it will be as smooth as possible for users, especially those who stick to all non-~x86 or custom packages. I hate to even reply to this, but install catalystframework (which isn't experimental in the least, BTW) on a non-~arch system and get back to me. '-) And what do you mean by 'if' there is a migration? Is it possible Gentoo will always only offer perl 5.8, and never the current version 5.10? I mean, I can get 5.10 on Windows from Active State! Worst case scenario is that you'll have to follow an official guide that has you run some extra commands to ensure that upgrade goes through without problems for Gentoo users. perl 5.10.0 will not be marked stable until all upgrade issues are What upgrade issues (where's the link to this list)? cleared either via appropriate documentation (official upgrade guide) or via bug fixes elsewhere. What bugs? What documents? (Could you please provide the links to items you reference?) I hate to seem grouchy, but really I'm looking for sources of related information, not a pat on the hand. '-) It seems you have information I have yet to discover, so please provide some documentation if it exists. However, it pretty much confirms, by omission, that there are no plans/actions by the gentoo tree maintainers to address perl 5.10.0, I have to assume, or someone would have mentioned it. (But how to find out for sure?) It seems this still stands absent contradicting evidence, there are no plans/actions by the gentoo tree maintainers to address perl 5.10.0. True, or false? How to know for sure? If you need perl 5.10.0 in a production environment, now or in the future, then you might as well file a bug in bugs.gentoo.org requesting that perl 5.10.0 be put into the tree and stabilized. Yeah, they are already there. Are the bugs filed so far insufficiently illustrating the problem? If there is enough interest by users and developers in getting 5.10.0 into the tree and stable, then you will likely see this bug resolved. If on the other hand you are the only one interested, then unfortunately you'll have to do the work in doing the work. So, unless a certain number of folks file bugs about a version bump, we don't get current version upgrades? That seems shortsighted, at best. I am confused about what you're intentions and needs are. Hopefully I've addressed some of your concerns or worries. Well, as you didn't provide any documentation, nothing is addressed to my satisfaction. I'm not even sure -- are you part of the herd? -- where/how you base your replies... OTOH, what you've asserted, if not in fact baseless, makes me worry even more. :( Thanks, sincerely, for your reply, though. '-) Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP
On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:59:46 Harry Putnam wrote:
Could please post the kernels .config (or /proc/config) and lspci
output from the original, working setup?
Yes, sorry I made you work so hard for the info... you did ask for
more info but I got working on this thread and forgot.
These URLS seem to be loading kind of slow right now:
lspci on system running 2.4.26-r4
www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/lspci.html
config from build of 2.6.24-r8 (This one boots with initrd)
www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/config.html
lslR on initrd structure built in kernel tree 2.6.24-r8
www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/lslR_initrd.html
lsmod on system running 2.6.24-r8
www.jtan.com/~reader/kdiag/lsmod.html
OK, I'll give it a try. I see this in lspci
00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X
Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 01)
and this in dmesg
Fusion MPT base driver 3.04.06
Copyright (c) 1999-2007 LSI Corporation
Fusion MPT SPI Host driver 3.04.06
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:10.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 16
mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup
ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator}
scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=16
which then later detects the sdb partitions.
This means that you would need to compile the following into the kernel:
CONFIG_PCI
CONFIG_SCSI
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD
CONFIG_FUSION
CONFIG_FUSION_SPI
plus the filesystem you have formatted the partition with.
But, as said this detects the _second_ device. You also need the drivers for
the first one. If you leave them out, the fusion device will be detected as
_sda_. So you'll also need:
CONFIG_ATA
CONFIG_ATA_PIIX
and eventually
CONFIG_ATA_ACPI
CONFIG_SATA_AHCI
HTH...
Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix + mySQL
Federico J. Fernández wrote: Hi List, I've been configuring a mail server with Postfix+mySQL+Courier+Squirrelmail according to [1]. Courier IMAP is working with the mySQL authentication, but I can't send mails via postfix. When I send an email I get an unkwon user error. I suspect that postfix is not using the defined mySQL table for some reason. I tried to see the virtual map with postmap but I get a strange error: server postfix # postmap mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-maps.cf postmap: fatal: unsupported map type: mysql I think the syntax you need is postmap -q string mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-maps.cf However looking at the mail logs is far simpler. If nothing jumps out at you in the logs post the output of postconf -n and cat /etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-maps.cf (minus user/passwd of course). FWIW the Gentoo Virtual How-To is very unfancy and requires you to enter all virtual domains manually into the main.cf within virtual_mailbox_domains. If you do not do this, Postfix doesn't know that the domain exists. I suggest doing something like this where it's a db call and you should never need to touch your main.cf. IIRC this will work if you added the optional mysql-transport table. virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-transport.cf I also recommend ditching the Gentoo How-to and using PostfixAdmin which is light years better in schema and administration. kashani
[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler
Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: aticonfig --odgc ERROR - Get clocks failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series that was a type --odgt. aticonfig --help has lots of usefull info. yep typo aticonfig --odgt ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series I never used aticonfig before. It only runs from a user's shell. Root cannot run it? aticonfig --odgc bash: aticonfig: command not found well, aticonfig is in /opt. opt may not be in your root's path. yep fixed(found) that but same result as root: /opt/bin/aticonfig --odgt ERROR - Get temperature failed for the Default Adapter - Radeon X1900 Series Maybe this R580 chipset based video card is not supported on monitoring the temp.? It is several years old. James
Re: [gentoo-user] cpufreqd - Couldn't set profile
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:47:49PM +0100, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: sys-power/cpufreqd-2.1.1 You should try sys-power/cpufreqd-2.2.1. I had similar problems resolved by a cpufreqd upgrade. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes: [...] OK, I'll give it a try. I see this in lspci [...] and this in dmesg [...] which then later detects the sdb partitions. This means that you would need to compile the following into the kernel: CONFIG_PCI CONFIG_SCSI CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD CONFIG_FUSION CONFIG_FUSION_SPI plus the filesystem you have formatted the partition with. But, as said this detects the _second_ device. You also need the drivers for the first one. If you leave them out, the fusion device will be detected as _sda_. So you'll also need: CONFIG_ATA CONFIG_ATA_PIIX and eventually CONFIG_ATA_ACPI CONFIG_SATA_AHCI You've got a sharp eye Dirk. Seems like you pieced it together pretty easily once given enough info. Thanks for your patience Dirk. Nikos, thanks for your patience as well Any other posters I've missed... much thanks. Not only can boot with no initrd but bootup is very noticably faster than with the original kernel. Might even be close to %50 faster. Well anyway considerably faster. Now to take notes on the proceedures passed along in this thread and try to do my own kernel compiling next time.
[gentoo-user] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.11 Failed to unpack
I am getting an error when I try to update sun-jdK
/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.11/distdir/jdk-6u11-dlj-linux-i586.bin:
line 821: ./install.sfx.14482: No such file or directory
Failed to extract the files. Please refer to the Troubleshooting section of
the Installation Instructions on the download page for more information.
*
* ERROR: dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.11 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_unpack
* environment, line 2683: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* sh ${DISTDIR}/${A} --accept-license --unpack || die Failed to
unpack
* The die message:
* Failed to unpack
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located
at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.11/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located
at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.11/temp/environment'
Can anyone shed any light on this error for me?
Thanks
Jeff
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP
On Saturday 13 December 2008 00:54:27 Harry Putnam wrote: Thanks for your patience Dirk. You're welcome. Bye... Dirk
