Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3.0.12 emerge dies

[Walter Dnes]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:25:19PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
>   I've been unsuccessfully trying to build the latest security patch
> version of Firefox 3.0.  I keep getting the same error message after
> 3 days of re-syncing and retrying.  The build dies early on in the
> patch-appliaction stage, so log.txt is small.  The error message
> also mentioned to include the contents of the patch ".out" file,
> which I have done as log2.txt.  Any ideas?

  I finally gave up waiting, unmerged Firefox, keyworded version 3.0.12
of Firefox-bin, and emerged that without incident.  The install
automatically created a symlink from firefox-bin to firefox, and it
launches just like before.  I'll switch to 3.5.x when support for 3.0.x
is dropped.

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[gentoo-user] OT: a script involving an IRC connection

[Stroller]

Hi there,

I want to write a script that I'll run on my server & which will  
connect to an IRC host and send a message to me if I'm logged on  
there. It can then disconnect from the server (or just plain drop the  
connection).


Any suggestions as to how to achieve this?

I'm reasonably proficient in Bash.

I think IRC protocol is fairly texty, so maybe I could use `expect`  to automate this. ??

(Is the correct package dev-tcltk/expect?)

But I believe I've been given to understand in the past that use of  
`expect` is bad practice.

What if it doesn't receive the result it expects?

I believe Perl has some pretty good modules for interacting with IRC.
Would this be a good opportunity to learn Perl?
I'd rather do this the simplest way possible (that still wossisnames  
best practices).


I think a full-blown eggdrop bot would be overkill for this simple task.
But I also wondered if it might be possible to call irissi with a  
scripted set of '\server host.foo.co \nick my_messenger \msg nick  
"Your message here"' commands?


Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] check for nfs systems offered for mounting

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 23:11:44 Harry Putnam wrote:
> Is there anyway to check for nfs filesystems that are mountable?
>
> Something like smbclient can do for cifs/smb shares.
>
> equery tools nfs-utils  doesn't show anything likely.

showmount -e [ip|hostname]

part of sys-fs/nfs-utils

It shows the server's exports list with directory and allowed IP range

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Re: [gentoo-user] check for nfs systems offered for mounting

[Andrew MacKenzie]

+++ Harry Putnam [gentoo-user] [Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:11:44PM -0500]:
> Is there anyway to check for nfs filesystems that are mountable?
> 
> Something like smbclient can do for cifs/smb shares.
> 
> equery tools nfs-utils  doesn't show anything likely.
Perhaps "showmount -e " would be what you want?

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[gentoo-user] check for nfs systems offered for mounting

[Harry Putnam]

Is there anyway to check for nfs filesystems that are mountable?

Something like smbclient can do for cifs/smb shares.

equery tools nfs-utils  doesn't show anything likely.

Re: [gentoo-user]

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alexander wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 July 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Alexander wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > I've installed recently thunar on my kde desktop and it looks very ugly 
>> > due to strange icons set. In console output it gives
>> >
>> > (thunar:4215): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'gnome-fs-home' 
>> > for stock: Icon 'gnome-fs-home' not present in theme
>> >
>> > So I've installed x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme, x11-themes/tango-icon-theme 
>> > and others then tried to change the icons set via 
>> > xfce4-appearance-settings. But this doesn't change icons that used in 
>> > thunar and it still writes warning in console and looks ugly.
>> >
>> > How I can make tnunar to use some icons set?
>>
>> I don't understand why you're using xfce settings in KDE. Just use the
>> KDE settings for GTK apps to set the theme, it works for me.
>>
>
> I've used it because nothing else working. It seems there is problem with my 
> active gtk theme (qtcurve), now I've changed to other theme and its ok. Thx.

Ah, okay. I also use QtCurve... I think it needs to be rebuilt if you
emerge any new updates of Qt. I'm using novola (something like that)
as my Gtk icons :)

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} SSD instead of RAID1?

[Stroller]

On 28 Jul 2009, at 18:52, Grant wrote:

...
Is cost-savings the advantage of using CF instead of SSD?  It sounds
like it might be wiser to spend a little more (low capacity SSD drives
are pretty cheap now) and have a real storage device that doesn't need
an adapter and is much faster, can swap, etc.


I assumed that you're looking at £100 or more for an SSD, as opposed  
to < £10 for a CF card. I didn't check those prices, however.


Are SSDs really *that* much better than CF cards in terms of write  
cycles? (i.e. swap)

How much swap are you actually using?

If the box is just a NAS, then I can't see the speed of the system  
drive is an issue *at all*.


Stroller.


EDIT: I just checked & a 32gig SATA SSD is £75 including VAT here. The  
headline price is £66, and if it wasn't for the sales tax I'd just  
about consider that much for the convenience. An 8gig CF card is £8,  
and that's perfectly ample space for a headless server. FWIW I went  
for hardware RAID - secondhand 3ware 9500S - & conventional SATA hard- 
drives.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} SSD instead of RAID1?

[Grant]

 ... What if I bought a low-price/low-capacity SSD drive for each
 of these systems, installed the system essentials on them, and used my
 existing high-capacity HD drives for data storage?  Would each system
 keep running if the HDs died?  If so, I think that would offer as good
 or better system reliability than RAID1.  What do you think?
>>> You don't need to buy SSD "drives" - instead you could use CF cards and a
>>> cheap adaptor. These are commensurate in capacity & cost with USB flash
>>> drives (4gig, maybe 16gig?), but CF cards "talk EIDE" and you can get cheap
>>> pin-convertors allowing you to connect them to EIDE cables and treat them
>>> like a hard-drive.
>>
>> Aren't CF cards much slower than SSD drives and HD drives?
>>
>
> Yep, especially the cheap ones which do not support DMA, just PIO. But
> this is not necessarily a problem: After starting all services etc.
> there will be very few reads on stuff like /etc and /usr. Just make sure
> to put all directories to which you write (parts of /var like /var/log
> and the several tmp directories) on an HDD, NFS or tmpfs. Of course,
> this all depends on your usage patterns and how much RAM you have.
>
> If you really need to write to the CFDisk, make sure to buy one with DMA
> support (and no, the label "super fast" which is regularly found on
> these things does not necessarily mean that it supports DMA).
>
> One drawback of this configuration: You can never use swap - never!
> Neither on the HDD (there is a high chance that the system would crash
> when the HDD fails) nor on the (cheap) SSD/flash drive (the drive would
> wear down, removing any advantage you tried to gain).
>
>>> I know of these used in Asterisk based PABX systems & PoS tills with the
>>> expectation that they're more reliable than disks, and have read statements
>>> by people deploying quantities of such machines that they've never had a
>>> failure in years of use.
>>
>> I like the sound of that.
>
> Where I work, we have a System-on-a-Chip (SoC) NAS. Albeit being the
> second most powerful machine we have in our server room (quad core CPU,
> lots of RAM, three redundant power supplies and a good dozen HDDs), the
> OSS itself resides on a removable card not bigger than my thumb.

Is cost-savings the advantage of using CF instead of SSD?  It sounds
like it might be wiser to spend a little more (low capacity SSD drives
are pretty cheap now) and have a real storage device that doesn't need
an adapter and is much faster, can swap, etc.

I bet I'm missing something though...?

- Grant


>>> I don't know how that really compares to RAID 1 - if you use hardware RAID
>>> (and you can get hardware SATA controllers for £50 these days) then you can
>>> assign a hot-spare, and hot-swap a replacement drive with zero downtime.
>>> With hardware RAID you can still boot if one of the drives fails, but you do
>>> add the controller as a potential point-of-failure.
>>
>> Would the system keeping running if I used a CF or SSD for the system
>> install and the HD drive died?
>>
>> - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user]

[Alexander]

On Tuesday 28 July 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Alexander wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > I've installed recently thunar on my kde desktop and it looks very ugly due 
> > to strange icons set. In console output it gives
> >
> > (thunar:4215): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'gnome-fs-home' for 
> > stock: Icon 'gnome-fs-home' not present in theme
> >
> > So I've installed x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme, x11-themes/tango-icon-theme 
> > and others then tried to change the icons set via 
> > xfce4-appearance-settings. But this doesn't change icons that used in 
> > thunar and it still writes warning in console and looks ugly.
> >
> > How I can make tnunar to use some icons set?
> 
> I don't understand why you're using xfce settings in KDE. Just use the
> KDE settings for GTK apps to set the theme, it works for me.
> 

I've used it because nothing else working. It seems there is problem with my 
active gtk theme (qtcurve), now I've changed to other theme and its ok. Thx.

Re: [gentoo-user]

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Alexander wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I've installed recently thunar on my kde desktop and it looks very ugly due 
> to strange icons set. In console output it gives
>
> (thunar:4215): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'gnome-fs-home' for 
> stock: Icon 'gnome-fs-home' not present in theme
>
> So I've installed x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme, x11-themes/tango-icon-theme 
> and others then tried to change the icons set via xfce4-appearance-settings. 
> But this doesn't change icons that used in thunar and it still writes warning 
> in console and looks ugly.
>
> How I can make tnunar to use some icons set?

I don't understand why you're using xfce settings in KDE. Just use the
KDE settings for GTK apps to set the theme, it works for me.

[gentoo-user]

[Alexander]

Hello.

I've installed recently thunar on my kde desktop and it looks very ugly due to 
strange icons set. In console output it gives

(thunar:4215): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'gnome-fs-home' for 
stock: Icon 'gnome-fs-home' not present in theme

So I've installed x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme, x11-themes/tango-icon-theme and 
others then tried to change the icons set via xfce4-appearance-settings. But 
this doesn't change icons that used in thunar and it still writes warning in 
console and looks ugly. 

How I can make tnunar to use some icons set?

[gentoo-user] Kernel configuration and setup hint? -> capture audio from usb-video webcam??

[meino . cramer]

Hi,

 I think I git stuck: 
 What devices and what paths are involved, when I want to capture
 video with audio from my usb webcam?
 
 I am using v4l2/alsa/guvcview
 and linux-2.29.6 vanilla.

 Any hint, which gives me a direction, in which I can start
 my search would be very helpful and very appreciated! 
 
 Kind regards,
 Meino Cramer




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[gentoo-user] Changing xorg.conf at runtime (nVidia cards)

[Mike Mazur]

Hello,

I have an nVidia card, and I can use the NVIDIA X Server Settings app
to dynamically detect and configure displays I connect to my laptop.
When I'm done with the configuration, I simply apply it, and keep on
truckin' without having to restart X.

Doing this manually each time I connect/disconnect an external display
can get tiresome. I can generate an xorg.conf for each setup I
frequently use (ie: different monitors at work/home, no monitor on the
go), but that means restarting X when the display configuration
changes. This can be undesirable if I just want to move from my desk
to the living room.

I'd like to run a single command, passing it one of my xorg.conf files
(for instance), and have my screens configured on-the-fly. I looked at
the command-line options for nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig but
they don't seem to do what I want. I also looked at XRandR but I'm not
sure what's the best way forward.

Does anyone have something like this already set up? What did you use?
Will these nvidia tools do what I need or should I look to XRandR? How
do I get started with setting up XRandR?

Thanks!
Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 28 Jul, Skippy wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:56:58 +0300 (EEST)
> Igor Nemilentsev  wrote the words:
> 
>> >
>> > Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying
>> > to fix it.
>> >
>> > Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed
>> > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>>   Please enter it in command line.
>> > And where is the hal configuration file you inserted
>> 
>> > input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>>   I have it in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
>>   I just added.
>> 
>>   >   
>> type="string">grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_
>>   bksp
>> 
> 
> 
> Thanks so much for the specifics.  These still haven't fixed my
> system.  Does anyone know if this is something the Gentoo developers
> are going to fix down the road?  Highly annoying, as others have
> already mentioned.
> 

Here is my complete x11-input.fdi  which works just fine.





hal-setup-keymap
 microsoft
 xorg
 en_US
 en_US
 microsoft
 xorg
 terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp



This is with an hal enabled x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2-r1 and all
x11-drivers, especially 

x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse

re-emergered after mering xorg-server.

Helmut.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs

[Skippy]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:26:20 +0200
Alan McKinnon  wrote the words:

> The problem has little if anything to do with Gentoo developers (who
> keep things as close to upstream as possible), and everything to do
> with the upstream developers of Xorg and hal. The fix is per their
> timetable.
> 
> -- 
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> 

Yes, I get your point.  I didn't mean to imply the Gentoo folks are
doing this.  I should have asked - is there some kind of work around or
temporary fix that the Gentoo developers can implement until it's
really fixed.  :)

Skippy

Re: [gentoo-user] [nfs] nfs mount settings

[Alex Schuster]

Alan McKinnon writes:

> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 09:39:40 Alex Schuster wrote:

> > man 5 exports (at least my localized german version) lists the
> > map_daemon option, which allows mapping of UIDs / GIDs between server
> > and client. This needs the rpc.ugidd to be running on server side.
> > I never did this, I don't even know where to get rpc.ugidd from, and
> > I'm pretty sure it won't work at all with opensolaris, but at least
> > with linux it should be possible then, theoretically.

> That's good to know - I don't have anything like that here in my man
> pages.

Well, at east the sed man page in german is quite different from the 
englisch one, maybe that's the case here, too. Does yours explain the 
(no_)subtree_check option? I had t look them up online.

> I have nfs-utils-1.2.0, what version are you running?

1.1.4-r1. 

Bug #116269 from end of 2005 misses the rpc.ugidd, the answer there is that 
nfs-utils does not yet support it. And I doubt it ever will, I just read 
that this is a feature of user space NFS, which seems to be deprecated. A 
kernel based NFS does not have it.

So, so seem to be right, ID mapping just is not possible (any more).

But what about NFS v4? Is has user authentification, maybe then there's a 
mapping feature, too?

Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 13:23:13 Skippy wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:56:58 +0300 (EEST)
>
> Igor Nemilentsev  wrote the words:
> > > Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying
> > > to fix it.
> > >
> > > Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed
> > > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
> >
> >   Please enter it in command line.
> >
> > > And where is the hal configuration file you inserted
> > >
> > > input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
> >
> >   I have it in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
> >   I just added.
> >
> >>  
> > type="string">grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,compose:ralt,term
> >inate:ctrl_alt_ bksp
>
> Thanks so much for the specifics.  These still haven't fixed my
> system.  Does anyone know if this is something the Gentoo developers
> are going to fix down the road?  Highly annoying, as others have
> already mentioned.

The problem has little if anything to do with Gentoo developers (who keep 
things as close to upstream as possible), and everything to do with the 
upstream developers of Xorg and hal. The fix is per their timetable.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs

[Skippy]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:56:58 +0300 (EEST)
Igor Nemilentsev  wrote the words:

> >
> > Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying
> > to fix it.
> >
> > Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed
> > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>   Please enter it in command line.
> > And where is the hal configuration file you inserted
> 
> > input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>   I have it in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
>   I just added.
> 
>  
> type="string">grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_
>   bksp
> 


Thanks so much for the specifics.  These still haven't fixed my
system.  Does anyone know if this is something the Gentoo developers
are going to fix down the road?  Highly annoying, as others have
already mentioned.

Skippy

Re: [gentoo-user] publishing ebuilds via bugzilla - bug #279438

[Justin]

Hi,

try it at the gentoo-science ml or better at #gentoo-science at
freenode. First place is the science overlay t get it closer to the
tree. Try to find out which dev is interested in similar packages and
drop him a mail.
I will comment on your ebuild at bgo.

justin



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Re: [gentoo-user] publishing ebuilds via bugzilla - bug #279438

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 28 Juli 2009, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> recently, I have written an ebuild for the program sci-chemistry/gabedit
> and published it at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279438
>
> I am a chemist, so please excuse the following questions. ;)
> What will now happen with the published ebuild? Can I somehow help
> getting it to portage?
>
> Is the bugreport configured correctly or did I make a mistake, due to
> the fact that I am a noob in respect of writing ebuilds? I read many
> docs about publishing and writing ebuilds, I checked the ebuild using
> repoman, and really tried to do everything correctly.
>
> While checking the ebuild with repoman and reading the docs, I realized
> that I have to create a ChangeLog and a metadata.xml. Do I have to post
> them and the Manifest somewhere, too?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your help.
>
> kind regards,
> der Max

well, bug wranglers will assign it to the right herd/dev and someone of that 
group will post his/hers comments. From that point on - you will see. 

I don't think that you need to attach a changelog - or manifest. Manifest is 
easily generated so that can IMHO wait until the final version that goes to the 
tree is found

[gentoo-user] publishing ebuilds via bugzilla - bug #279438

[Maximilian Bräutigam]

Hi all,

recently, I have written an ebuild for the program sci-chemistry/gabedit
and published it at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279438

I am a chemist, so please excuse the following questions. ;)
What will now happen with the published ebuild? Can I somehow help
getting it to portage? 

Is the bugreport configured correctly or did I make a mistake, due to
the fact that I am a noob in respect of writing ebuilds? I read many
docs about publishing and writing ebuilds, I checked the ebuild using
repoman, and really tried to do everything correctly.

While checking the ebuild with repoman and reading the docs, I realized
that I have to create a ChangeLog and a metadata.xml. Do I have to post
them and the Manifest somewhere, too?

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

kind regards,
der Max
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Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/at-drivers-9.7 stable?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 28 Juli 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been running x11-drivers/at-drivers-9.6 with my
> gentoo-sources-2.6.30-rx kernel for several days now
> WITHOUT any problem (except tons of undesirable log entries).
> Yesterday, I tried the 0.9.7 version which crashed after
> a few minutes.
> Has somebody else made better experience?
>
> Many thanks for sharing your experience,
> Helmut.

9.7 worked well for me. Just deactivate dpms ...

[gentoo-user] x11-drivers/at-drivers-9.7 stable?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

I have been running x11-drivers/at-drivers-9.6 with my
gentoo-sources-2.6.30-rx kernel for several days now
WITHOUT any problem (except tons of undesirable log entries).
Yesterday, I tried the 0.9.7 version which crashed after
a few minutes.
Has somebody else made better experience?

Many thanks for sharing your experience,
Helmut.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: cloning + upgrade howto?

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 27 Jul, ABCD wrote:
> I believe the mask is still in place because of a couple issues with sets, 
> as well as issues with FEATURES=preserve-libs.

I don't think so.
I'm using the bleeding egde portage since several months now without any
problems. These have been mask for 'political' reasons - see an urlier
thread of mine. We - the user - should be forced to test the previous
version. I think this is a shame and several people on this list
seemed to agree.
Helmut.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [nfs] nfs mount settings

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 09:39:40 Alex Schuster wrote:
> Alan McKinnon writes:
> > Golden rule with nfs:
> >
> > It was designed for the case of a diskless client mounts it's home or
> > root directories over the network, while exporting passwd and shadow
> > files over NIS. That is evident in it's design and there is no facility
> > to change uids and gids on the fly.
>
> man 5 exports (at least my localized german version) lists the map_daemon
> option, which allows mapping of UIDs / GIDs between server and client. This
> needs the rpc.ugidd to be running on server side.
> I never did this, I don't even know where to get rpc.ugidd from, and I'm
> pretty sure it won't work at all with opensolaris, but at least with linux
> it should be possible then, theoretically.
>
>   Wonko

That's good to know - I don't have anything like that here in my man pages.

I have nfs-utils-1.2.0, what version are you running?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [nfs] nfs mount settings

[Alex Schuster]

Alan McKinnon writes:

> Golden rule with nfs:
>
> It was designed for the case of a diskless client mounts it's home or
> root directories over the network, while exporting passwd and shadow
> files over NIS. That is evident in it's design and there is no facility
> to change uids and gids on the fly. 

man 5 exports (at least my localized german version) lists the map_daemon 
option, which allows mapping of UIDs / GIDs between server and client. This 
needs the rpc.ugidd to be running on server side.
I never did this, I don't even know where to get rpc.ugidd from, and I'm 
pretty sure it won't work at all with opensolaris, but at least with linux 
it should be possible then, theoretically.

Wonko