Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
 an ... anomaly!
 
 It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
 sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
 so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
 it?
 
 How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
 anything so far.

euse -I kdrive

will show which packages on your system are using this flag.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
  make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
 
  INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
 
  I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you do
  need the line tho.
 
  I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes X go
 
 back to not starting at all.

That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86 driver; 
e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libpng12 is missing [TEMP SOLN]

2010-05-16 Thread Chris Walters
On 5/15/2010 11:06 AM, Roy Wright wrote:
 Argh.  Just have to vent a little.

 Bring up a new install on a system whose system disk died and was replaced 
 with an SSD.  OS installed no problems.  Recovered my RAID5 and LVM JBOD 
 volume (a GIANT THANK YOU to the mdadm and lvm2 folks!).  Then first weekly 
 update hits the libpng12 issue.  No complaints, it's what I expect being at 
 ~amd64 and the price I willing pay for the benefits of gentoo.  Another THANK 
 YOU to the lafilefixer folks and system is up.

 So on to my list a applications to be installed.  Firefox check, openoffice 
 check, handbrake...crap.  Handbrake is one of the non-standard packages that 
 includes their own version of support libraries.  You guessed it, libpng12 
 dependent.  Argh!

 Have fun,
 Roy
   

I had the same problem with a 'missing' libpng12.  There are 2 slots for
libpng: slot 0 and slot 1.2.  You DON'T want anything in the 1.2 slot. 
What you DO want is the lonely ebuild in the 0 slot.  Why?  It will
create the libpng12.la file that is needed for packages to find the
library.  So this is what I did:

1.  Ran emerge -C libpng to remove ALL versions of libpng that were
installed.
2.  Ran emerge =libpng-1.2.43-r2.  I believe that is the version of
the slot 0 libpng.
3.  Ran lafilefixer --justfixit -- just in case.
4.  Re-emerged cairo to make sure it was linked to my newly installed
libpng12
5.  Belatedly realized that I should mask every version of libpng above
the slot 0 one, and did so.
6.  Ran equery d libpng from the 'gentoolkit' package.
7.  Re-emerged everything on that list (even Open office - ugh).

In step 7, everything compiled and installed just fine - no errors. 
From what I can see, this looks like an upstream bug, where their source
is coded to look only for libpng12, and nothing else.  For me it would
stop with an error during the linking phase, or right at the beginning
(at least those packages had checks).

I hope this helps someone.

Chris



[gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.8.1 random segfaults

2010-05-16 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Does anyone else get random segfaults all the time with xorg-server-1.8.1?

  Backtrace:
  0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x45cc28]
  1: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x59899) [0x459899]
  2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x300100+0xf0d0) [0x300100f0d0]
  3: /usr/bin/X (dixLookupPrivate+0xa) [0x42c5aa]
  4: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 (0x7f39c8fb3000+0x3f18a) [0x7f39c8ff218a]
  5: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 (0x7f39c8fb3000+0x3656f) [0x7f39c8fe956f]
  6: /usr/bin/X (FreeResource+0x13f) [0x42a38f]
  7: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 (0x7f39c8fb3000+0x336c9) [0x7f39c8fe66c9]
  8: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 (0x7f39c8fb3000+0x363ae) [0x7f39c8fe93ae]
  9: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x44f1c) [0x444f1c]
  10: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x217e5) [0x4217e5]
  11: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x300041ebbd]
  12: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x21399) [0x421399]
  Segmentation fault at address 0x290

  Fatal server error:
  Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting

xorg-server-1.8.0 is working just fine.  I'm on ~amd64 with 
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 (also tried live ebuild from x11 overlay.)





Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:56:23 Alex Schuster wrote:

 Thanks, this made me install gutenprint which claims to support the
 printer directly. I thought I had to use the iP4200 driver and hope it
 would work.

I think that gutenprint is the correct driver for your printer and this page 
also suggests the same:

http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-iP4000

However, this might have been the case before the latest cups version - so 
some further testing will be required (see below).

 But my main problem is another one: How do I tell CUPS which device my
 printer is? I tried usb:/dev/usb/lp0 (found this notation when googling
 'usb printer device uri'), but nothing happens when I try to print.

This is the cups driver (in kernel) which ought to pick up your usb printer 
and use it without problems.  However, according to your logs ... there seems 
to be a clash:

 There is a message in syslog that is being repeated hundreds of times:
 May 15 22:25:55 [kernel] usb 1-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp 
 while 'usb' sets config #1

So, what happens if you build usblp as a module and you modprobe -rv ubslp?  
Does cups pick up your printer now?

 And now it gets really crazy: In the printer overview I see not only the
 'iP5200' I just created, but also a 'iP52002' that has the device URI
 'usb://Canon/iP5200'. What did create this?!
 
 But printing to that does not work either.
 
I suspect that this was created by the gutenprint driver that you installed.  
I believe that if you resolve the usblp error first then you'll know if 
gutenprint is necessary or if it will work.  Some manual tweaking of the ppd 
file may also be needed to print in higher resolutions, but let's get it to 
print first.

Stop press!

I just checked again your first post: You are using cups 1.4 which accesses 
raw usb devices!  Definitely remove usblp (or blacklist it and reboot if you 
don't want to recompile your kernel, or can't modprobe -r) and see if the cups 
back end picks up your printer on its own.

HTH
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] X hoggs CPU (xorg-server-1.7.6) (was: xorg-server: Pressing 'down'/'right ctrl' keys yields newline)

2010-05-16 Thread Amit Dor-Shifer



On 05/14/10 00:47, walt wrote:

On 05/13/2010 03:22 AM, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:



On 05/13/10 00:54, walt wrote:

On 05/12/2010 05:25 AM, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:

Hi all.
After updating world, xorg-1.5.3-r6 to 1.7.6 among others, I'm now 
faced with a/m issue.

1. left ctrl key works fine, so does the down arrow key on the numpad.
2. Seems like the down key generates a double sequence: both the 
down event and a newline.

I've no idea how to proceed w/this. Any clues would be appreciated.


With every version of X11, the amount of stuff in xorg.conf gets less,
as part of the xorg design. I can see from your xorg.log that you have
things in xorg.conf that shouldn't be there any longer. Specifically,
you seem to be using the keyboard and mouse drivers *and* evdev at the
same time, which is wrong -- evdev has replaced the mouse and keyboard
drivers, and you don't need an Input device section for either of 
them

now.


I should have said *I* don't need an Input device section any more :)

Actually I moved some of my custom stuff from xorg.conf to the hal config
files -- but hal is deprecated now and I should it back to xorg.conf 
again.

Thanks for the reminder.


I suggest you generate a new xorg.conf by running X -configure and
use the result as a good place to add a few custom things like these:
(**) Option xkb_layout en_US,ru
(**) Option xkb_variant ,winkeys
(**) Option xkb_options grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll



Thanks. X -configure solved it.
As long as we're at the subject:Those options you're mentioning, 
would they go under the Keyboard0 device?

I Added some options there:
Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
  Driver kbd *** kbd driver is obsolete, use evdev or just 
delete this line

Simply deleting this line causes X to fail startup:
Xorg.0.log
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
InputDevice section Keyboard0 must have a Driver line.
(EE) Problem parsing the config file
(EE) Error parsing the config file
/Xorg.0.log

Explicitly setting Driver to evdev (to both mouse and keyboard 
sections) doesn't fix the unexplained messages in Xorg.0.log. At least X 
manages to start, though.


Depending on your configuration, there may be some font and/or 
keyboard stuff in your own
home directory.  You may need to search or grep some subdirectories to 
find it if it's not

obvious.

Found nothing so-far...

I'm now noticing another problem: X's CPU usage sky-rockets when using 
input devices. Especially mouse: If I move my pointer around the screen, 
hovering over some windows in the process, I get 50% CPU in 'top'.


Amit



Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
  I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
  an ... anomaly!
  
  It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
  sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
  so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
  it?
  
  How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
  anything so far.
 
 euse -I kdrive
 
 will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
 

Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
needed that I want:

From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...

COMMON_DEPEND==dev-lang/python-2.4
=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
=dev-python/pygobject-2.15
x11-libs/pango
dev-python/python-ldap
x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]


It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
here as well - seems to work ok.

BillK





Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread ich bins
Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:
 On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
 an ... anomaly!

 It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
 sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
 so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
 it?

 How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
 anything so far.

 euse -I kdrive

 will show which packages on your system are using this flag.

 
 Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
 needed that I want:
 
 From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
 require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
 is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...
 
 COMMON_DEPEND==dev-lang/python-2.4
 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
 =dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
 =dev-python/pygobject-2.15
 x11-libs/pango
 dev-python/python-ldap
 x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]
 
 
 It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
 guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
 here as well - seems to work ok.
 
 BillK
 
 
 
You need kdrive for Xephyr!



Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 13:03 +0200, ich bins wrote:
 Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:
  On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
  I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
  an ... anomaly!
 
  It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
  sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
  so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
  it?
 
  How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
  anything so far.
 
  euse -I kdrive
 
  will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
 
  
  Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
  needed that I want:
  
  From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
  require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
  is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...
  
  COMMON_DEPEND==dev-lang/python-2.4
  =x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
  =dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
  =dev-python/pygobject-2.15
  x11-libs/pango
  dev-python/python-ldap
  x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]
  
  
  It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
  guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
  here as well - seems to work ok.
  
  BillK
  
  
  
 You need kdrive for Xephyr!
 

Perhaps, but its not installed and doesnt even have an ebuild that I can
see.

BillK








[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure

2010-05-16 Thread Jan Engelhardt
[Replying to 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/229533/focus=229542 ]

On 2010-05-05 08:00:43 GMT, Daniel Troeder wrote:
On 05/05/2010 06:42 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 04.05.2010 23:24, schrieb Daniel Troeder:
 
 I'm using sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.1.1_rc1 since 02.05.2010 and didn't have
 any issues.
 Please decrypt your partition from the command line, so we can see if it
 is a cryptsetup/luks/kernel problem or a pam_mount problem.

 Cmdline should something like:
 $ sudo cryptsetup -d /etc/security/verysekrit.key luksOpen
 /dev/mapper/VG01-crypthome myhome
 Which should create /dev/mapper/myhome.
 
 My user sgw is currently not allowed to sudo this (should it be? it
 never was).
 
 And for root it says Kein Schlüssel mit diesem Passsatz verfügbar.
 (german) which should be No key available with this passphrase. in
 english.
That is a message from cryptsetup. As you are using openssl to get the
key, I think the problem might be there.

I followed the guide you linked here (website is down, but google-cache
works:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7eaSac72CoIJ:home.coming.dk/index.php/2009/05/20/encrypted_home_partition_using_luks_pam_+encrypted_home_partition_using_luks_pamcd=2hl=dect=clnkgl=declient=firefox-a)
and it works for me (kernel is 2.6.33-zen2):

lvcreate -n crypttest -L 100M vg0
KEY=`tr -cd [:graph:]  /dev/urandom | head -c 79`
echo $KEY | openssl aes-256-ecb  verysekrit.key
openssl aes-256-ecb -d -in verysekrit.key

In my personal opinion, both the quality of shell commands and key
generation is suboptimal. What makes it bad is that people follow it.

First, it generates a key which does not exploit the entire space. 
People claim it's because they want an ASCII readout, but frankly, you 
get the same with `hexdump -C`.

Second, it's using echo without the -n parameter, thus implicitly 
inserting a newline into the key -- which is the cause for yoru observed 
mounting problems.

Third, because you are passing the key via stdin into cryptsetup, it 
only uses the first line of whatever you pipe into it; whereas pam_mount 
uses the entire keyfile as it is supposed to be.

(Fourth, the howto suggests ECB, which, well, looks rather weak 
considering the ECB's Tux picture on Wikipedia.)

All of that should be in doc/bugs.txt, and mount.crypt even warns about 
ECB. You really cannot ignore seeing that.

Phew!



[gentoo-user] emerge portage error

2010-05-16 Thread Simon

Hi,

Please help me to get rid of this error while emerging portage:
# emerge portage

Calculating dependencies... done!
 Verifying ebuild Manifests...
 starting parallel fetching pid 6030

 Emerging (1 of 2) dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 to /
 * Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) 
... 
[ ok ]
 * python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) 
...   
[ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) 
...
[ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) 
...   
[ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) 
...  
[ ok ]
 * checking Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 ;-) 
...
[ ok ]
 * checking python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 ;-) 
...  
[ ok ]
 * bsddb module is out-of-date and no longer maintained inside 
dev-lang/python. It has
 * been additionally removed in Python 3. You should use external, 
still maintained bsddb3
 * module provided by dev-python/bsddb3 which supports both Python 2 
and Python 3.

 *
 * ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called pkg_setup
 *   python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line   64:  Called built_with_use 
'pkg_setup' 'pkg_setup'

 *eutils.eclass, line 1862:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  die)   die $PKG does not 
actually support the $1 USE flag!;;

 *  The die message:
 *   sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 does not actually support the libffi USE flag!
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call 
stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.

 *

 * Messages for package dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4:

 *
 * ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called pkg_setup
 *   python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line   64:  Called built_with_use 
'pkg_setup' 'pkg_setup'

 *eutils.eclass, line 1862:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  die)   die $PKG does not 
actually support the $1 USE flag!;;

 *  The die message:
 *   sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 does not actually support the libffi USE flag!
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call 
stack if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.

 *
 * bsddb module is out-of-date and no longer maintained inside 
dev-lang/python. It has
 * been additionally removed in Python 3. You should use external, 
still maintained bsddb3
 * module provided by dev-python/bsddb3 which supports both Python 2 
and Python 3.





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge portage error

2010-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 May 2010 15:10:16 Simon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please help me to get rid of this error while emerging portage:
 # emerge portage

[snip]

Yea gods, the youth of today. In my day, when I was a little whipper-snapper, 
we actually read the ebuild. Why because? Because there was no-one else around 
to do our looking by proxy for us!

So, in the interest of decomming the proxy in my head, herewith the magic 
incantations to make your problem go Poof! and disappear:

Firstly, you have tools to help. equery, euse, and many more. Learn how to use 
them, and use them.

Secondly, read the ebuild. portage does what the ebuild says so the master 
reference to figure out why portage wants to do something is in the ebuild (or 
eclasses that it inherits).

   * bsddb module is out-of-date and no longer maintained inside
 dev-lang/python. It has
   * been additionally removed in Python 3. You should use external,
 still maintained bsddb3
   * module provided by dev-python/bsddb3 which supports both Python 2
 and Python 3.
   *
   * ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
   * Call stack:
   *ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called pkg_setup
   *   python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line   64:  Called built_with_use
 'pkg_setup' 'pkg_setup'
   *eutils.eclass, line 1862:  Called die
   * The specific snippet of code:
   *  die)   die $PKG does not
 actually support the $1 USE flag!;;
   *  The die message:
   *   sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 does not actually support the libffi USE flag!

From the ebuild:
pkg_setup() {
if use berkdb; then
ewarn \bsddb\ module is out-of-date and no longer 
maintained inside dev-lang/python. It has
ewarn been additionally removed in Python 3. You should use 
external, still maintained \bsddb3\
ewarn module provided by dev-python/bsddb3 which supports 
both Python 2 and Python 3.
fi

if built_with_use sys-devel/gcc libffi; then
die Reinstall sys-devel/gcc with \libffi\ USE flag 
disabled
fi
}


So, to get rid of the bsddb ewarn, you need to remove that berkdb from USE.

And the build failure is staring you right there in the face. As we say here 
at the tip of Africa, As dit 'n slang was, het dit jou gepik [If it were a 
snake, it would have already bitten you].


You have USE=libffi which doesn't work. Remove it, sync the tree, rebuild 
world. (your portage and gcc versions have updates available, even on stable)



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Stuttering DVB-T video output

2010-05-16 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

for watching DVB-T broadcasts on my PC I am using vlc,
which is fed with an appropiate channels.conf file 
from the commandline.

Everything is fine so far...but...
The video output stutters, especially when switching
desktops or when scrolling html pages in firefox or...
often this happens without any additional actions on
the desktop.

lspci reports:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A8V Deluxe
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-amd64
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 
South]
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller (Asus)
Kernel driver in use: skge
00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture 
(rev 11)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AverMedia AVerTV DVB-T 771
Kernel driver in use: bttv
Kernel modules: bttv
00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 
11)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AverMedia AVerTV DVB-T 771
Kernel driver in use: bt878
Kernel modules: bt878
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID 
Controller (rev 80)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V Deluxe/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe 
motherboard
Kernel driver in use: sata_via
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: pata_via
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard
Kernel modules: i2c-viapro
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 
AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A8V Deluxe motherboard (Realtek ALC850 
codec)
Kernel driver in use: VIA 82xx Audio
00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller 
(rev 80)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
Kernel driver in use: k8temp
Kernel modules: k8temp
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] 
(rev a2)
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 0640
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia

uname -a reports:
Linux solfire 2.6.32.13 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 15 10:14:09 CEST 2010 i686 AMD 
Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

(the kernel is the vanilla version from ftp.kernel.org)

vlc is:
VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye
VLC version 1.0.6 Goldeneye
Compiled by r...@localhost.
Compiler: gcc version 4.3.4 (Gentoo 4.3.4 p1.1, pie-10.1.5)

vlc uses as output default and the rest of the configuration is on
default as the installation process leaves it behind.

What can I do to prevent or minimize the 

Re: [gentoo-user] Stuttering DVB-T video output

2010-05-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

I am using dvb-s with kaffeine and ati and don't have any stuttering.

Do you have effects turned on? Turn them off.
Are you using the nvidia driver? Or nv? nouveau? Use nvidia.
Do you have any stupid governor turned on - like userspace? Use ondemand.



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
   make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
  
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
  
   I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you do
   need the line tho.
  
   I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes X
 go
 
  back to not starting at all.

 That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
 driver;
 e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse


You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
specific I have to do?
treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
[I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
 Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
 Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
 Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices

treat src #

BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these two
lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
(==) |--Input Device default keyboard
(==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the
layout.
Using the first mouse device.


line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled

(MACH64 is my video card)
(My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea what
Silken is)


These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 16:43:48 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
   
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
   
I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you do
need the line tho.
   
I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes X
 
  go
 
   back to not starting at all.
 
  That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
  driver;
  e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 
 You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
 specific I have to do?
 treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 [I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
  Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
  Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
  Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices
 
 treat src #
 
 BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these
  two lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
 line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
 (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
 (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the
 layout.
 Using the first mouse device.
 
 
 line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled
 
 (MACH64 is my video card)
 (My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
 adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea what
 Silken is)
 
 
 These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.

Kevin, what I would try first is to set INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse in your 
/etc/make.conf, then emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and finally reboot.  
Unless your mouse needs some special driver it will just work.

I've been down this road (with simpler hardware than yours it seems) and my 
machine would not start xorg if I did not have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse 
keyboard.  On my laptops I had to also add synaptics.

HTH
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Stuttering DVB-T video output

2010-05-16 Thread meino . cramer
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [10-05-16 17:40]:
 Hi,
 
 I am using dvb-s with kaffeine and ati and don't have any stuttering.
 
 Do you have effects turned on? Turn them off.
 Are you using the nvidia driver? Or nv? nouveau? Use nvidia.
 Do you have any stupid governor turned on - like userspace? Use ondemand.
 

As said, I am using DVB-T.
In the lspci listing, I appended to my previous mail, you can
find the kind of nvidia-card I am using and that I am using the nvidia
driver.
I recompiled with the ondemand governor set and will see, what
happens.

Thanks for your infos.

Best regards,
mcc




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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
   make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
  
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
  
   I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you do
   need the line tho.
  
   I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes X
 go
 
  back to not starting at all.

 That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
 driver;
 e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse


 You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
 specific I have to do?
 treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 [I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
  Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
  Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
  Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices

 treat src #

 BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these
 two lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
 (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
 (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the
 layout.
 Using the first mouse device.


 line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled

 (MACH64 is my video card)
 (My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
 adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea what
 Silken is)


 These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.


Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and noticed
that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't work, I
should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective language, I
tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.  This
may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't compile
the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It may be
time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks last time,
and was a major PITA.


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libpng12 is missing [TEMP SOLN]

2010-05-16 Thread Roy Wright

On May 16, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Chris Walters wrote:

 On 5/15/2010 11:06 AM, Roy Wright wrote:
 Argh.  Just have to vent a little.
 
 So on to my list a applications to be installed.  Firefox check, openoffice 
 check, handbrake...crap.  Handbrake is one of the non-standard packages that 
 includes their own version of support libraries.  You guessed it, libpng12 
 dependent.  Argh!
 
 Have fun,
 Roy
 
 
 I had the same problem with a 'missing' libpng12.  There are 2 slots for
 libpng: slot 0 and slot 1.2.  You DON'T want anything in the 1.2 slot. 
 What you DO want is the lonely ebuild in the 0 slot.  Why?  It will
 create the libpng12.la file that is needed for packages to find the
 library.  So this is what I did:
 
 1.  Ran emerge -C libpng to remove ALL versions of libpng that were
 installed.
 2.  Ran emerge =libpng-1.2.43-r2.  I believe that is the version of
 the slot 0 libpng.
 3.  Ran lafilefixer --justfixit -- just in case.
 4.  Re-emerged cairo to make sure it was linked to my newly installed
 libpng12
 5.  Belatedly realized that I should mask every version of libpng above
 the slot 0 one, and did so.
 6.  Ran equery d libpng from the 'gentoolkit' package.
 7.  Re-emerged everything on that list (even Open office - ugh).
 
 In step 7, everything compiled and installed just fine - no errors. 
 From what I can see, this looks like an upstream bug, where their source
 is coded to look only for libpng12, and nothing else.  For me it would
 stop with an error during the linking phase, or right at the beginning
 (at least those packages had checks).
 
 I hope this helps someone.
 
 Chris
 

Got handbrake installed.  When initially going thru the mess I ended up with
both slot 0 and slot 1.2 installed.  So unmerged slot 1.2, did a revdep-rebuild,
then handbrake built fine.

So system is (for now at least) pure 1.4.

Have fun,
Roy


[gentoo-user] RAID problems - Is udev at fault here?

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Knecht
I have a newish high-end machine here that's causing me some problems
with RAID, but looking at log files and dmesg I don't think the
problem is actually RAID and more likely udev. I'm looking for some
ideas on how to debug this.

The hardware:
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel Core i7-980x
12GB DRAM
5 WD5002ABYS RAID Edition 500GB drives

The drives are arranged as a 3-drive RAID1 and a 2-drive RAID0 using mdadm.

The issue is that when booting gets to the point where it starts mdadm
and then about 50% of the time mdadm fails to find some of the
partitions and hence either starts the RAID1 with missing drives or in
the case of RAID0 won't start the RAID. For instance, /dev/md5 might
start with a failed partition, either /dev/sda5 or sdb5 or sdc5 isn't
found and the RAID is started. Once the problem has occurred I don't
seem to be able to fix it with anything other than a reboot so far.

Investigating dmesg when there is a failure I actually don't see that
the missing partition is ever identified and looking at the /dev
directory the partition isn't there either.

Personally I don't think the problem is with the drives as BIOS shows
me a table of the drives attached before booting and the 5 drives are
_always_ shown. If I drop into BIOS proper and use BIOS tools to look
at the drives I can _always_ read smart data and all drives respond to
DOS-based tools like SpinRite. It's only when I get into Linux that
they aren't found.

The problem hasn't changed much with different kernels from 2.6.32
through 2.6.34, nor do I see any difference running vanilla-sources or
gentoo-sources.

Currently I'm using udev-149 with devfs-compat and extra flags enabled.

Where might I start looking for the root cause of a problem like this?

Let me know what other info would be helpful.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
   
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
   
I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you
do need the line tho.
   
I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes
X
 
  go
 
   back to not starting at all.
 
  That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
  driver;
  e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 
  You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
  specific I have to do?
  treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  [I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
   Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
   Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
   Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
   Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices
 
  treat src #
 
  BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these
  two lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
  line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
  (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
  (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in
  the layout.
  Using the first mouse device.
 
 
  line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled
 
  (MACH64 is my video card)
  (My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
  adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea
  what Silken is)
 
 
  These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.
 
 Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and noticed
 that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't work, I
 should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective language, I
 tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.  This
 may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't compile
 the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It may
  be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks last
  time, and was a major PITA.

I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing thread, but 
for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and revdep-
rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine (x86) there 
was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of emerge -e 
world.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 08:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 
mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com 
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
   make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
  
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
  
   I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you do
   need the line tho.
  
   I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes X 
go
 
  back to not starting at all.

That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86 driver;
e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse


You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more 
specific I have to do?
treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
[I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
  Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
  Homepage: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
  Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices

treat src #

BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these two 
lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
 (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
 (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the 
layout.
 Using the first mouse device.


line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled

(MACH64 is my video card)
(My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2 adapter 
and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea what Silken is)


These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.


I just did the experiment of building xorg-server with the hal useflag *off*, 
and
found that neither keyboard nor mouse worked until I restored the two 
InputDevice
sections that I commented out when I switched to evdev+hal:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Option AIGLXfalse
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer  -- restored these two lines
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard  ---
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver evdev
Option Device /dev/input/event3
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver evdev
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/input/event4
Option Emulate3Buttons True
EndSection

Note those Device entries.  I found those devices in /dev/input/by-path/:

$ls -l /dev/input/by-path/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40 platform-i8042-serio-0-event-kbd - 
../event3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40 platform-i8042-serio-1-event-mouse 
- ../event4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40 platform-i8042-serio-1-mouse - 
../mouse0

evdev uses event-devices, hence the name.  I don't use the mouse0 device at
all but I'm guessing I would if I used the mouse driver instead of evdev.

Starting with xorg-server-1.8 the mouse and keyboard Inputdevice sections are no
longer needed (not sure about synaptics, though), because the server uses evdev
automatically (no manual configuration like cited above) and ignores hal 
completely.

Using the evdev driver alone, and xorg-server built without hal, I get this:

(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Mouse0: Device: /dev/input/event4
(II) Mouse0: Found 9 mouse buttons
(II) Mouse0: Found scroll wheel(s)
(II) Mouse0: Found relative axes
(II) Mouse0: Found x and y relative axes
(II) Mouse0: Configuring as mouse
(**) Option Emulate3Buttons True
(II) Mouse0: Forcing middle mouse button emulation on.
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse0 (type: MOUSE)
(**) Mouse0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration profile 0
(II) Mouse0: initialized for relative axes.
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Keyboard0: Device: /dev/input/event3
(II) Keyboard0: Found keys
(II) Keyboard0: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Option xkb_model evdev
(**) Option xkb_layout us





[gentoo-user] Re: X hoggs CPU (xorg-server-1.7.6)

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 01:12 AM, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:






Explicitly setting Driver to evdev (to both mouse and keyboard sections) 
doesn't

 fix the unexplained messages in Xorg.0.log. At least X manages to start, 
though.

I'm expecting that your newest Xorg log will be different from the earlier ones.
Which messages do you mean?


I'm now noticing another problem: X's CPU usage sky-rockets when using input 
devices.

 Especially mouse: If I move my pointer around the screen, hovering over some 
windows
 in the process, I get 50% CPU in 'top'.

I've never seen that before.  Does hovering over xev print any messages?





[gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 04:14 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 13:03 +0200, ich bins wrote:

Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:

On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:

I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
an ... anomaly!

It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
it?

How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
anything so far.


euse -I kdrive

will show which packages on your system are using this flag.



Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
needed that I want:


 From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to

require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...

COMMON_DEPEND==dev-lang/python-2.4
 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
 =dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
 =dev-python/pygobject-2.15
 x11-libs/pango
 dev-python/python-ldap
 x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]


It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
here as well - seems to work ok.

BillK




You need kdrive for Xephyr!



Perhaps, but its not installed and doesnt even have an ebuild that I can
see.


Xephyr is a driver installed by xorg-server-1.8 on my ~amd64 machine, but
not on my x86 machine with xorg-server-1.7.6.  Which version are you trying
to install?





Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 16:43:48 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
 make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:

 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev

 I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you
 do
 need the line tho.

 I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others makes
 X
  
   go
  
back to not starting at all.
  
   That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
   driver;
   e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 
  You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
  specific I have to do?
  treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  [I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
   Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
   Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
   Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
   Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices
 
  treat src #
 
  BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these
   two lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
  line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
  (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
  (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in
 the
  layout.
  Using the first mouse device.
 
 
  line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled
 
  (MACH64 is my video card)
  (My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
  adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea
 what
  Silken is)
 
 
  These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.

 Kevin, what I would try first is to set INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse in your
 /etc/make.conf, then emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and finally
 reboot.
 Unless your mouse needs some special driver it will just work.

 I've been down this road (with simpler hardware than yours it seems) and my
 machine would not start xorg if I did not have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse
 keyboard.  On my laptops I had to also add synaptics.

 Well, that breaks kind of badly.  X never even starts.  But for a peculiar
reason...  Here's what I find in the log file
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Undefined InputDevice evdev mouse referenced by ServerLayout
X.org Configured.
(EE) Problem parsing the config file
(EE) Error parsing the config file

Fatal server error:
no screens found



So I tried the same thing with two statements

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
#InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
#InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice evdev
InputDevice mouse
EndSection


And I got

(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Undefined InputDevice mouse referenced by ServerLayout X.org
Configured.
(EE) Problem parsing the config file
(EE) Error parsing the config file

Fatal server error:
no screens found

So I'm thinking it just doesn't like mouse all of a sudden.  Say what?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.8.1 random segfaults

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 12:32 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Does anyone else get random segfaults all the time with xorg-server-1.8.1?

xorg-server-1.8.0 is working just fine. I'm on ~amd64 with 
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 (also tried live ebuild from x11 overlay.)


I just upgraded today to 1.8.1 so I have only a few hours of testing, but
no crashes yet.  My video card is nvidia with a different driver, of course,
but my guess would be the ati driver.  I've seen a lot of people complaining
about ati drivers on the Xorg mailing list lately.




[gentoo-user] Re: RAID problems - Is udev at fault here?

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 10:56 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:

I have a newish high-end machine here that's causing me some problems
with RAID, but looking at log files and dmesg I don't think the
problem is actually RAID and more likely udev. I'm looking for some
ideas on how to debug this.

The hardware:
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel Core i7-980x
12GB DRAM
5 WD5002ABYS RAID Edition 500GB drives


I had an asus mobo that turned out to be great in the long run, but a few
of its newer hardware gadgets took months to be well-supported by linux.

I'm thinking (completely guessing :) it sounds like a driver that's not
setting some bit properly in a hardware register during boot.

That turned out to be a problem with the network chip on my asus, which
randomly didn't work after reboots.  Finally the driver got fixed after
I whined a thousand times to the driver maintainer at Broadcom :)




Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  major snippage


  Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and
 noticed
  that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't work,
 I
  should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective language,
 I
  tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.
  This
  may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't compile
  the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It may
   be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks last
   time, and was a major PITA.

 I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing thread,
 but
 for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and revdep-
 rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine (x86)
 there
 was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of emerge
 -e
 world.

 I just did the lafixer thing and was astonished at how many .la files it
said it was
fixing.  Seems like my system should have been dead outright

Now I'm off to a bunch of revdep-rebuilds.

Hope this works, because I really *do not* want to emerge -e world (again).

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  major snippage


  Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and
 noticed
  that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't work,
 I
  should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective
 language, I
  tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.
  This
  may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't
 compile
  the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It
 may
   be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks last
   time, and was a major PITA.

 I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing thread,
 but
 for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and revdep-
 rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine (x86)
 there
 was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of emerge
 -e
 world.

 I just did the lafixer thing and was astonished at how many .la files it
 said it was
 fixing.  Seems like my system should have been dead outright

 Now I'm off to a bunch of revdep-rebuilds.

 Hope this works, because I really *do not* want to emerge -e world (again).


 I've got to ask, though, what good a revdep-rebuild does with the -p
(pretend) flag.
Am I missing something here?


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RAID problems - Is udev at fault here?

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/16/2010 10:56 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I have a newish high-end machine here that's causing me some problems
 with RAID, but looking at log files and dmesg I don't think the
 problem is actually RAID and more likely udev. I'm looking for some
 ideas on how to debug this.

 The hardware:
 Asus Rampage II Extreme
 Intel Core i7-980x
 12GB DRAM
 5 WD5002ABYS RAID Edition 500GB drives

 I had an asus mobo that turned out to be great in the long run, but a few
 of its newer hardware gadgets took months to be well-supported by linux.

 I'm thinking (completely guessing :) it sounds like a driver that's not
 setting some bit properly in a hardware register during boot.

 That turned out to be a problem with the network chip on my asus, which
 randomly didn't work after reboots.  Finally the driver got fixed after
 I whined a thousand times to the driver maintainer at Broadcom :)


It very well could be something like that. I had a Compaq laptop a few
years ago which had an ATI chipset in it and which took a long time to
get DMA working on the hard drive controller to it was very slow for
the first few months.

The thing about this is that it's a single 6 port SATA controller in
an Intel chipset, albeit because it's the newer chipsets with the
newest processor (6 cores, 12 threads) it likely hasn't been seen by
too many people yet.

Let's assume you're right? I've been trying to determine how udev goes
about finding the actual hard drives and assigning them device names.
Is there a way that I can get udev to log what it's doing? Any sort of
debug messages I can get it to print in a log file somewhere?

It is a flaky problem and strangely it doesn't always miss every
partition on a given drive. For instance /dev/md3, md5 and md11
3-drive RAID1 arrays. You'd think if it was the controller failing it
would fail for all the partitions on a given drive, but it doesn't. It
might find sda3 for md3 but miss sda5 for md5. Strange.

Thanks for the ideas.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 May 2010 22:45:55 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   major snippage
 
   Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and
 
  noticed
 
   that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't
   work,
 
  I
 
   should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective
 
  language, I
 
   tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.
 
   This
 
   may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't
 
  compile
 
   the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It
 
  may
 
be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks
   last time, and was a major PITA.
 
  I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing
  thread, but
  for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and revdep-
  rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine (x86)
  there
  was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of
  emerge -e
  world.
 
  I just did the lafixer thing and was astonished at how many .la files it
 
  said it was
  fixing.  Seems like my system should have been dead outright
 
  Now I'm off to a bunch of revdep-rebuilds.
 
  Hope this works, because I really *do not* want to emerge -e world
  (again).
 
 
  I've got to ask, though, what good a revdep-rebuild does with the -p
 
 (pretend) flag.
 Am I missing something here?

You're not missing anything.  It's a cautionary step only.  If you are about 
to do something with the machine and remerging the whole universe would be 
inconvenient at this moment in time, or you may want to reconsider/change some 
of your settings, then --pretend will give you this chance.  I've made the 
habit of using it almost without thinking, but you can of course not use it, 
or substitute it with -a.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 22:45:55 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 
  
   wrote:
  
major snippage
  
Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and
  
   noticed
  
that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't
work,
  
   I
  
should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective
  
   language, I
  
tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.
  
This
  
may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't
  
   compile
  
the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.
  It
  
   may
  
 be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks
last time, and was a major PITA.
  
   I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing
   thread, but
   for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and
 revdep-
   rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine
 (x86)
   there
   was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of
   emerge -e
   world.
  
   I just did the lafixer thing and was astonished at how many .la files
 it
  
   said it was
   fixing.  Seems like my system should have been dead outright
  
   Now I'm off to a bunch of revdep-rebuilds.
  
   Hope this works, because I really *do not* want to emerge -e world
   (again).
  
  
   I've got to ask, though, what good a revdep-rebuild does with the -p
 
  (pretend) flag.
  Am I missing something here?

 You're not missing anything.  It's a cautionary step only.  If you are
 about
 to do something with the machine and remerging the whole universe would be
 inconvenient at this moment in time, or you may want to reconsider/change
 some
 of your settings, then --pretend will give you this chance.  I've made the
 habit of using it almost without thinking, but you can of course not use
 it,
 or substitute it with -a.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick


Well, it just told me it will rebuild clisp and m4, neither of which strike
me as essential to Xorg, but I'll give it a try.
Thanks,

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 01:16:34PM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.
 
  Kevin, what I would try first is to set INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse in your
  /etc/make.conf, then emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and finally
  reboot.
  Unless your mouse needs some special driver it will just work.

The advice is to set the appropriate flag in /etc/make.conf 
NOT what you are doing below to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 
 
 So I tried the same thing with two statements
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier X.org Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 #InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 #InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 InputDevice evdev
 InputDevice mouse
 EndSection
 

That is not exactly the right syntax for Xorg.conf
If you are using an xorg.conf and not just using evdev/hal, then you
should probably have something more like this in your configuration
file:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mouse1
EndSection

...plus other things. In the InputDevice section for Mouse0, note the
Option that sets the Device to /dev/input/mouse1. You will have to set
that to the appropriate path to the pointer device. It will most
likely by somewhere in /dev/input/  (often just mouse0 or mice, I have
a separate touchscreen device so mine is at mouse1). If you do not
have a mouse device listed in /dev/input, then you need to check
either your kernel configurations or your udev configurations. 

For more about the proper syntax in xorg.conf, try man xorg.conf.

If you are unsure about how to write your xorg.conf file, post its
full contents to the list and we'll take a look at it. 

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



[gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
an ... anomaly!

It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
it?

How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
anything so far.


The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:

#emerge -auNDt world





Re: [gentoo-user] Stuttering DVB-T video output

2010-05-16 Thread Stroller


On 16 May 2010, at 15:10, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

...
for watching DVB-T broadcasts on my PC I am using vlc,
which is fed with an appropiate channels.conf file
from the commandline.

Everything is fine so far...but...
The video output stutters, especially when switching
desktops or when scrolling html pages in firefox or...
often this happens without any additional actions on
the desktop.



You need to state that you've catted from the /dev/whatever to a file,  
or whatever the correct way is to directly make a recording, then  
played the resultant video back using vlc, mplayer  on a different  
system.


You also haven't stated the resolution of the video you're trying to  
play. Hi-def is demanding of system resources, standard def should be  
no problem on any PC made in the last 7 or 8 years.


Stroller.




SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 05/16/2010 08:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.commailto:
 michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:24:10 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.commailto:
 rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   Mine has xf86-* drivers as well.  OP, do you have your setting in
   make.conf correctly?  Mine looks like this:
  
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev
  
   I do NOT use hal so your settings may need to be different but you
 do
   need the line tho.
  
   I have INPUT_DEVICES=evdev, and adding either of the others
 makes X go
 
  back to not starting at all.

That's right, you will also then need to install the appropriate x86
 driver;
e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse


 You mean like this, the way it's always been?  Or is there something more
 specific I have to do?
 treat src # eix x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 [I] x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:  1.5.0{tbz2} {debug}
  Installed versions:  1.5.0{tbz2}(09:38:05 PM 05/11/2010)(-debug)
  Homepage: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
  Description: X.Org driver for mouse input devices

 treat src #

 BTW, the most recent boot started X without the mouse working, but these
 two lines appear in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 line 44-47: (==) |--Input Device evdev
 (==) |--Input Device default keyboard
 (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in
 the layout.
 Using the first mouse device.


 line 457:   (==) MACH64(0): Silken mouse enabled

 (MACH64 is my video card)
 (My mouse is a Microsoft optical with a USB cord that I use with a PS/2
 adapter and a KVM switch, which works with Live disks. I have no idea what
 Silken is)


 These are the only lines with the word mouse in them.


 I just did the experiment of building xorg-server with the hal useflag
 *off*, and
 found that neither keyboard nor mouse worked until I restored the two
 InputDevice
 sections that I commented out when I switched to evdev+hal:

 Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Option AIGLXfalse
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer  -- restored these two
 lines
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard  ---
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver evdev
Option Device /dev/input/event3
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver evdev
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/input/event4
Option Emulate3Buttons True
 EndSection

 Note those Device entries.  I found those devices in /dev/input/by-path/:

 $ls -l /dev/input/by-path/
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40
 platform-i8042-serio-0-event-kbd - ../event3
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40
 platform-i8042-serio-1-event-mouse - ../event4
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 2010-05-16 10:40 platform-i8042-serio-1-mouse -
 ../mouse0

 evdev uses event-devices, hence the name.  I don't use the mouse0
 device at
 all but I'm guessing I would if I used the mouse driver instead of
 evdev.

 Starting with xorg-server-1.8 the mouse and keyboard Inputdevice sections
 are no
 longer needed (not sure about synaptics, though), because the server uses
 evdev
 automatically (no manual configuration like cited above) and ignores hal
 completely.

 Using the evdev driver alone, and xorg-server built without hal, I get
 this:

 (**) Option CorePointer
 (**) Mouse0: always reports core events
 (**) Mouse0: Device: /dev/input/event4
 (II) Mouse0: Found 9 mouse buttons
 (II) Mouse0: Found scroll wheel(s)
 (II) Mouse0: Found relative axes
 (II) Mouse0: Found x and y relative axes
 (II) Mouse0: Configuring as mouse
 (**) Option Emulate3Buttons True
 (II) Mouse0: Forcing middle mouse button emulation on.
 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse0 (type: MOUSE)
 (**) Mouse0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
 (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration profile 0
 (II) Mouse0: initialized for relative axes.
 (**) Option CoreKeyboard
 (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
 (**) Keyboard0: Device: /dev/input/event3
 (II) Keyboard0: Found keys
 (II) Keyboard0: Configuring as keyboard
 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)
 (**) Option xkb_rules evdev
 (**) Option xkb_model evdev
 (**) Option xkb_layout us




GENIUS.  It worked!   That which has been dead for 2 weeks is risen!

Many thanks.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 16 May 2010 18:18:09 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  major snippage


   Oh, and one more thing showed up last night.  I reemerged udev, and
 noticed
  that the ebuild printed a message to the effect that if it doesn't work,
 I
  should try emerging hal first.  Leaving aside the non-effective
 language, I
  tried that and although hal is installed, I can  no longer build it.
  This
  may turn out to be the most important thing. It turns out I can't
 compile
  the latest wireshark either.  Maybe something is hosed deep down.  It
 may
   be time to go down the emptytree road again, but it took 2 weeks last
   time, and was a major PITA.

 I don't know if you have been following the libpng12 is missing thread,
 but
 for good measure you may want to try lafilefixer --justfixit and revdep-
 rebuild -p -v -i a number of times first.  On two machines of mine (x86)
 there
 was no problem.  On another (amd64) I had to go through the pain of emerge
 -e
 world.

 I just did the lafixer thing and was astonished at how many .la files it
 said it was
 fixing.  Seems like my system should have been dead outright

 Now I'm off to a bunch of revdep-rebuilds.

 Hope this works, because I really *do not* want to emerge -e world (again).


 Well, it was an interesting excercise, but I'm no closer to a runnable Xorg
(it won't start at all as long as I have
  InputDevice mouse
in there.  I think I'll start exploring the ideas around what happens when
you have Xorg -hal, as I do.

Actually, I did that, and problem SOLVED!.
-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Re: RAID problems - Is udev at fault here?

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 02:56 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 05/16/2010 10:56 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:


I have a newish high-end machine here that's causing me some problems
with RAID, but looking at log files and dmesg I don't think the
problem is actually RAID and more likely udev. I'm looking for some
ideas on how to debug this.

The hardware:
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel Core i7-980x
12GB DRAM
5 WD5002ABYS RAID Edition 500GB drives


I had an asus mobo that turned out to be great in the long run, but a few
of its newer hardware gadgets took months to be well-supported by linux.

I'm thinking (completely guessing :) it sounds like a driver that's not
setting some bit properly in a hardware register during boot.

That turned out to be a problem with the network chip on my asus, which
randomly didn't work after reboots.  Finally the driver got fixed after
I whined a thousand times to the driver maintainer at Broadcom :)



It very well could be something like that. I had a Compaq laptop a few
years ago which had an ATI chipset in it and which took a long time to
get DMA working on the hard drive controller to it was very slow for
the first few months.

The thing about this is that it's a single 6 port SATA controller in
an Intel chipset, albeit because it's the newer chipsets with the
newest processor (6 cores, 12 threads) it likely hasn't been seen by
too many people yet.

Let's assume you're right? I've been trying to determine how udev goes
about finding the actual hard drives and assigning them device names.
Is there a way that I can get udev to log what it's doing? Any sort of
debug messages I can get it to print in a log file somewhere?

It is a flaky problem and strangely it doesn't always miss every
partition on a given drive. For instance /dev/md3, md5 and md11
3-drive RAID1 arrays. You'd think if it was the controller failing it
would fail for all the partitions on a given drive, but it doesn't. It
might find sda3 for md3 but miss sda5 for md5. Strange.


Hm.  Is this your motherboard?:

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=W7i5W4Pw4fH22Mih

Being a geek of a certain age, I find that products with names that invoke
mega-dose anabolic steroids usually don't fit my lifestyle very well.

I do better with product names that contain more sedate character strings
like VSOP or MOM.

By grepping through /usr/src/linux*/MAINTAINERS I turned up quite a few
email addresses at intel.com, none of which seem relevant to RAID or its
device drivers, but a polite email asking for a link to the appropriate
dev might bring a polite and useful reply.  That's how I connected with
the appropriate dev at Broadcom, who eventually fixed my ethernet driver.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RAID problems - Is udev at fault here?

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:07 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 Hm.  Is this your motherboard?:

 http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=W7i5W4Pw4fH22Mih

 Being a geek of a certain age, I find that products with names that invoke
 mega-dose anabolic steroids usually don't fit my lifestyle very well.

 I do better with product names that contain more sedate character strings
 like VSOP or MOM.

 By grepping through /usr/src/linux*/MAINTAINERS I turned up quite a few
 email addresses at intel.com, none of which seem relevant to RAID or its
 device drivers, but a polite email asking for a link to the appropriate
 dev might bring a polite and useful reply.  That's how I connected with
 the appropriate dev at Broadcom, who eventually fixed my ethernet driver.


Yes, that's the motherboard. I don't care much about the names of
things myself. I had limited options for the new i7-980x processor at
the time I was ordering the hardware, and I'd never done overclocking
before (and technically still haven't) so I got it because it was an
Asus board which I've generally had very good luck with.

To be clear, the RAID I'm doing is mdadm Linux software RAID and
nothing having to do with the on-board RAID controller. The machine
uses the standard Linux SATA drivers, or so I think.

I like the VSOP idea. :-)

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: SOLVED: Re: Re: Gentoo decapitated

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 04:39 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:



On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:



I just did the experiment of building xorg-server with the hal useflag 
*off*, and
found that neither keyboard nor mouse worked until I restored the two 
InputDevice
sections that I commented out when I switched to evdev+hal:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0 Screen0 0 0
Option AIGLX false
InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer -- restored these two lines
InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard ---
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver evdev
Option Device /dev/input/event3
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver evdev
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/input/event4
Option Emulate3Buttons True
EndSection



GENIUS.  It worked!   That which has been dead for 2 weeks is risen!


Bless you, my son ;)  (I always thought the deadline is the third day.)

I could give you that information only after hours of frustrating research
and trial-and-error hacking, most of which I've already forgotten, so it's
a good thing that I commented those lines out instead of deleting them.

Happily for all of us, the xorg devs are well aware of the frustrating user
experience with all of this configuration nonsense, and are making very good
progress towards automating it.





Re: [gentoo-user] identical drives, different free space!

2010-05-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 01:35 -0700, scott n-h wrote:

 
 Have you checked to see if it is following symlinks? Possibly add a -l
 option to copy symlinks as symlinks

good idea, I didn't have the -l option.  Now I run rsync like this:

sudo /usr/bin/ionice -c 3 /usr/bin/rsync -aAlx --exclude suspend_file
--delete --delete-excluded --delete-before --partial --human-readable /
${MOUNTPT} ${LOGFILE}

Note the -l AND --delete-before.

However I'm STILL filling up the second drive for some unknown reason.

I've added --exclude /usr/portage/distfiles to the rsync options,
since there's no need to back up my distfiles, but I'd like to know why
it's not working...

-- 
Iain Buchanan iain at pcorp dot com dot au

It doesn't matter whether you win or lose -- until you lose.




[gentoo-user] need more swap

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I have a one-off number crunching job that needs a large amount of swap.
It is apparently possible to have up to 16TB of swap with an AMD opteron
but I cant find out how - anyone here done this?

I have a 125GB scssi disk I would like as one large swap but after setup
the kernel can only see 2G (normal i386 is up to 32 2G partitions - I
found that 5G ram and 12G swap wasnt enough so I now want more! :)

BillK






Re: [gentoo-user] need more swap

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy
ah, figured it out - had to be the whole disk, not a partition.

BillK


On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 08:48 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 I have a one-off number crunching job that needs a large amount of swap.
 It is apparently possible to have up to 16TB of swap with an AMD opteron
 but I cant find out how - anyone here done this?
 
 I have a 125GB scssi disk I would like as one large swap but after setup
 the kernel can only see 2G (normal i386 is up to 32 2G partitions - I
 found that 5G ram and 12G swap wasnt enough so I now want more! :)
 
 BillK
 
 
 
 




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy
-t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.

BillK

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:
 On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
  I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
  an ... anomaly!
 
  It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
  sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
  so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
  it?
 
  How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
  anything so far.
 
 The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:
 
 #emerge -auNDt world
 
 
 




Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] identical drives, different free space!

2010-05-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
So after I excluded distfiles from my rsync, I found that the two
partitions had roughly the same free space... strange!  How could
excluding around 6G of distfiles make two copies of the same thing the
same size?

Well, it turns out I have the distfiles mounted with --bind to my
ftp/pub directory.  And looking in the rsync man page:

-x, --one-file-system
...
Also keep in mind that rsync treats a bind mount to
  the same device as being on the same filesystem.

So my distfiles were being copied in /usr/portage as well
as /home/ftp/pub!

Unfortunately the only way to get around it seems to be another
--exclude directive.  At least I understand what's going on now :)

thanks for all the suggestions,
-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

Mr. Cole's Axiom:
The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant; the
population is growing.




[gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread walt

On 05/16/2010 06:26 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

-t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.


AFAICT, the cost of enabling kdrive is trivial.  It compiles one more
server /usr/bin/Xephyr, so I'd say just enable kdrive and go for it!



On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:

On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
an ... anomaly!

It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
it?

How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
anything so far.


The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:

#emerge -auNDt world













Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 18:55 -0700, walt wrote:
 On 05/16/2010 06:26 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
  -t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
  kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.
 
 AFAICT, the cost of enabling kdrive is trivial.  It compiles one more
 server /usr/bin/Xephyr, so I'd say just enable kdrive and go for it!
 

Thanks Walt, thats interesting that gnome-2.28 includes Xephyr via
kdrive - bonus :)

The system was moved to gnome-2.28 and updated/upgraded overnight and I
just have half a dozen pkgs to sort out - after trying 217!) and its
done.

BillK

 
  On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:
  On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
  I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
  an ... anomaly!
 
  It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
  sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
  so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
  it?
 
  How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
  anything so far.
 
  The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:
 
  #emerge -auNDt world
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [gentoo-user] need more swap

2010-05-16 Thread Mick
On Monday 17 May 2010 01:55:23 Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 ah, figured it out - had to be the whole disk, not a partition.

As far as I know you can define a partition, or even a file as swap space.  
You'll need to set a swap fs on them first before you can use them and then it 
is a matter of swapon /dev/what_ever.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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