Re: [gentoo-user] Which bluetooth USB key ?
On 21/05/2010, at 4:15 PM, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > I have to get a bluetooth USB key. Which one is known to work under gentoo > (amd64) ? With which driver ? Experience and knowhow welcome... > > Most bluetooth usb keys will work with the drivers in the kernel, iirc it is called bluetooth usb, in .config it is CONFIG_BT_HCIBTUSB=y and in the make menuconfig it is Networking -> Bluetooth subsystem ->Blue tooth device drivers -> HCI USB driver William
[gentoo-user] Which bluetooth USB key ?
I have to get a bluetooth USB key. Which one is known to work under gentoo (amd64) ? With which driver ? Experience and knowhow welcome...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
Grant writes: > Google says the error can be due to disabling dri in xorg.conf, but I > don't have anything like that. Should CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU=y include > the dri or dri2 module? The dri and dri2 modules should be installed by x11-base/xorg-server.
Re: [gentoo-user] problem updating python
The current Python version is at least 3.1. When I had an issue with an upgrade
to version 3.1 from 2.6, my KDE and x crashed. When I reported this to Gentoo,
I was told that this was not even a bug. My solution was to reload tho complete
system.
My guess that part of the problem may be that you are emerging an older version
of Python.
--- On Thu, 5/20/10, Kaddeh wrote:
From: Kaddeh
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] problem updating python
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 8:29 PM
what is the output of "eselect python list"
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Rene Lopez Montelongo
wrote:
Hi everyone
I'm trying to install on a sparc architecture SUN Ultra45.
At the time to install a new slot of python I got the this error...
livecd elog # emerge -auv dev-lang/python
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 USE="gdbm ncurses readline
ssl threads (wide-unicode) xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -ipv6
-sqlite -tk -wininst" 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
>>> Verifying ebuild Manifests...
>>> Emerging (1 of 1) dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 to /
* Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
...
[ ok ]
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
[ ok ]
*
* ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
* python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
* python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
* python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
version of Python not set"
* The die message:
* PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
*
* Messages for package dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4:
*
* ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
* python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
* python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
* python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
version of Python not set"
* The die message:
* PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
*
livecd elog #
livecd elog # emerge --search python
Searching...
[ Results for search key : python ]
[ Applications found : 117 ]
* app-admin/eselect-python
Latest version available: 20091230
Latest version installed: 20091230
Size of files: 5 kB
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org
Description: Eselect module for management of multiple Python versions
License: GPL-2
* app-admin/python-updater
Latest version available: 0.8
Latest version installed: 0.8
Size of files: 7 kB
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python
Description: Script used to remerge python packages when
changing Python version.
License: GPL-2
* app-emacs/python-mode [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 5.1.0
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 36 kB
Homepage: https://launchpad.net/python-mode
Description: An Emacs major mode for editing Python source
License: GPL-3
* app-pda/libopensync-plugin-python [ Masked ]
Latest version available:
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 0 kB
Homepage: http://www.opensync.org/
Description: OpenSync Python Module
License: LGPL-2.1
* app-vim/vimpython
Latest version available: 1.11
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 3 kB
Homepage: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=30
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
>Sorry, but I believe the you are the one being pretentious; how long >has been since you tried PulseAudio? It has come a lng way, and I >haven't seen any real flames against PulseAudio in many months (and >it's enabled in all major distributions). And that is because it's >working (I repeat my words) "for me and many more". Windows "works" for many people it does not make it the best OS or the only one. In Ubuntu they went from oss to PulseAudio. I bet that 90% of Ubuntu users do not know that PulseAudio uses Alsa. >And to finish, I don't know how much you know about technical >decisions and design, but I know that Linus refused to accept OSS4 in >the kernel, I know that all major distributions decided to go with >PulseAudio, and I know that Intel, Nokia and Google are betting for >it. Why do you think PulseAudio is userspace. Haha Setting up Alsa was/is hard to do but with my on board chip it was plug and play. If Alsa was easy to setup then PulseAudio would not be main stream. Alsa trys to hardware mix if it can not it mixes in software. PulseAudio mixes in software and never trys to mix in hardware. Did I get that right? So if your n900 sound chip can not mix in hardware then you may as well use PulseAudio. As the load is still on the CPU. At the end of the day I want to pick a sound system and use it. I do not want one forced on me.
Re: [gentoo-user] problem updating python
what is the output of "eselect python list"
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Rene Lopez Montelongo <
r...@redes.acatlan.unam.mx> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> I'm trying to install on a sparc architecture SUN Ultra45.
>
> At the time to install a new slot of python I got the this error...
>
>
> livecd elog # emerge -auv dev-lang/python
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild NS ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 USE="gdbm ncurses readline
> ssl threads (wide-unicode) xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -ipv6
> -sqlite -tk -wininst" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
> >>> Verifying ebuild Manifests...
>
> >>> Emerging (1 of 1) dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 to /
> * Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> * python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
> ...
> [ ok ]
> * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> * checking Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> * checking python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
>
>[ ok ]
> *
> * ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
> * Call stack:
> *ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
> * python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
> *python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
> *python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
> * The specific snippet of code:
> * die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
> version of Python not set"
> * The die message:
> * PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
> *
> * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
> stack if relevant.
> * A complete build log is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
> * The ebuild environment file is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
> *
>
> * Messages for package dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4:
>
> *
> * ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
> * Call stack:
> *ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
> * python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
> *python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
> *python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
> * The specific snippet of code:
> * die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
> version of Python not set"
> * The die message:
> * PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
> *
> * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
> stack if relevant.
> * A complete build log is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
> * The ebuild environment file is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
> *
> livecd elog #
>
>
>
> livecd elog # emerge --search python
> Searching...
> [ Results for search key : python ]
> [ Applications found : 117 ]
>
> * app-admin/eselect-python
> Latest version available: 20091230
> Latest version installed: 20091230
> Size of files: 5 kB
> Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org
> Description: Eselect module for management of multiple Python
> versions
> License: GPL-2
>
> * app-admin/python-updater
> Latest version available: 0.8
> Latest version installed: 0.8
> Size of files: 7 kB
> Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python
> Description: Script used to remerge python packages when
> changing Python version.
> License: GPL-2
>
> * app-emacs/python-mode [ Masked ]
> Latest version available: 5.1.0
> Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> Size of files: 36 kB
> Homepage: https://launchpad.net/python-mode
> Description: An Emacs major mode for editing Python source
> License: GPL-3
>
> * app-pda/libopensync-plugin-python [ Masked ]
> Latest version available:
> Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> Size of files: 0 kB
> Homepage: http://www.opensync.org/
> Description: OpenSync Python Module
> License: LGPL-2.1
>
> * app-vim/vimpython
> Latest version available: 1.11
> Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> Size of files: 3 kB
> Homepage: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=30
> Description: vim plugin: A set of menus/shortcuts to work with
> Python files
> License: vim
>
> * app-xemacs/python-modes
> Latest version available: 1.08
> Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
> Size of files: 90 kB
> Homepage: http://xemacs.org/
> Description: Python support.
> License: GPL-2
>
> * dev-lang/python
> Latest version
Re: [gentoo-user] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Wed, 19 May 2010 21:59:08 +0200 Fabian Köster wrote: > Hi *, > > I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following > problem: > > When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is > perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have > the expected sound-output. > > But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no sound > output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol. The volume-indicator for > the stream does not show any activity. > > Does anybody have an idea what is causing this misbehavior? Or any hint on > debugging this? When I run pulseaudio -vvv I cannot see any suspicious output > (see below) > > Thanks in advance, > Fabian Give this a read http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Network
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
>> There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not >> completely sure about the versions) >> >> Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm >> >> Hopefully it will be *very* temporary > > It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break with the Nouveau > driver. Supposedly it's an API break between the kernel and libdrm: "Nouveau DRM in kernel 2.6.33 is API incompatible to >=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18, please use x11-base/nouveau-drm instead." According to ebuild dependencies and messages, my combination of xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.15_pre20100213 and x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18_pre should work. I get this same error no matter what combination of libdrm, xf86-video-nouveau, and nouveau-firmware I try, and whether or not I have CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU=y. This makes me think it's not related to the API break: (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol (EE) No devices detected. Google says the error can be due to disabling dri in xorg.conf, but I don't have anything like that. Should CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU=y include the dri or dri2 module? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Because as soon as you disable ALSA dmix and/or Pulse, suddenly you get > acceptable sound latency. > > With OSS4, which has in-kernel mixing, it doesn't matter if you enable the > mixer or disable it; sound always has acceptable latency. By that reasoning, the GUI should be in-kernel too. It would be then really responsive al the time. I don't buy the argument. > Thus, I can only conclude that mixing has to happen in-kernel. But I base > this only on the ALSA/Pulse vs OSS4 comparison. It could also be that the > user-space implementation of ALSA just sucks. But that's hard to believe, > since if that were the case they would have fixed it several years ago > already. No, it doesn't has to happen in-kernel; all the linux based phones (which deal primarily with, you know, audio, including heavy use of multimedia) use PulseAudio. And these are not very powerful machines; so if the mixing in user space works in low powered devices, it must work everywhere. I don't buy this argument either. > It sounds reasonable from a designer's point of view. But a system is > useless if it's only designed good but doesn't actually work in a > satisfactory manner. It works for me, I repeat, and for a lot of other folks too. It's not only a design decision made because it's "elegant"; it's made because it works "in a satisfactory manner" (ex. me, others, Linux phones), and because it's more flexible: put it in the kernel, and you loose the capacity to do important changes and extensions (specially with the way the Linux kernel development works). In short, because it works "in a satisfactory manner" (to me and many others, including all the N900 and Android users out there), I also don't buy this argument. > Sorry, that just pretentious of you here. PulseAudio is the most flamed at, > hated, sound-related software around. And this is because it does *not* > work for many, many users, and the first thing they try to do is find out > how to disable the thing. Sorry, but I believe the you are the one being pretentious; how long has been since you tried PulseAudio? It has come a lng way, and I haven't seen any real flames against PulseAudio in many months (and it's enabled in all major distributions). And that is because it's working (I repeat my words) "for me and many more". > You're mistaken in that a mixer should be in the same boat as network > streaming, bluetooth, etc, etc. I believe the *mixer* should be in-kernel. > Everything else doesn't need to be. PulseAudio's extreme latency problems > (which even upstream admits can't be fixed easily) stem from that. I respectfully disagree; the kernel should pass along data and messages to the sound hardware, and everything else (*including mixing*) should be in user space. Not only in theory from an academic and aesthetic point of view; *it also works*, to me, to many users who doesn't complain (despite PulseAudio being used by default in ALL major distributions), and to ALL the users of Android and MeeGo. And to finish, I don't know how much you know about technical decisions and design, but I know that Linus refused to accept OSS4 in the kernel, I know that all major distributions decided to go with PulseAudio, and I know that Intel, Nokia and Google are betting for it. So, no offense, but I trust more in those guys and the arguments I have heard from them. And the consensus with them is to use PulseAudio, and leave the mixing in user space. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 05/20/2010 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [snip] What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. If I may use (most of) your words: "Well, it works here. It's been rock-solid through months." And with various use-cases, if I may add. Can you elaborate why the audio architecture has to be close to the kernel? The part that talks to the hardware obviously has to, but why the part that handles the features, the mixes, the virtual devices? Because as soon as you disable ALSA dmix and/or Pulse, suddenly you get acceptable sound latency. With OSS4, which has in-kernel mixing, it doesn't matter if you enable the mixer or disable it; sound always has acceptable latency. Thus, I can only conclude that mixing has to happen in-kernel. But I base this only on the ALSA/Pulse vs OSS4 comparison. It could also be that the user-space implementation of ALSA just sucks. But that's hard to believe, since if that were the case they would have fixed it several years ago already. I'm under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that it was one of the major reasons to leave OSS4 outside the upstream kernel; too many stuff in there that belongs in user space. It sounds reasonable to me. It sounds reasonable from a designer's point of view. But a system is useless if it's only designed good but doesn't actually work in a satisfactory manner. Specially when PulseAudio just works, for me and many more. Sorry, that just pretentious of you here. PulseAudio is the most flamed at, hated, sound-related software around. And this is because it does *not* work for many, many users, and the first thing they try to do is find out how to disable the thing. ALSA can't switch to Bluetooth either. You could use PulseAudio with OSS4 instead of with ALSA though, but this is not officially supported. Indeed it's not supported, because it's (using your words again) "broken by design" by trying to do too many things inside the kernel that belong in user space. That's my understanding at least; please correct me if you believe I'm mistaken. You're mistaken in that a mixer should be in the same boat as network streaming, bluetooth, etc, etc. I believe the *mixer* should be in-kernel. Everything else doesn't need to be. PulseAudio's extreme latency problems (which even upstream admits can't be fixed easily) stem from that.
[gentoo-user] Layman, Git, ... and Http-Proxies
Hello, i tried to use layman (current stable version). The problem ist that i sit behind a proxy server which covers the http(s) protocol only. All other ports are closed. In the config file of layman (/etc/layman/...) i entered the proxy server and the listening port. Then layman was able to get the list of overlays. But if i want to get an overlay (here: x11 overlay) it starts git to get it. After a while git aborts with a timeout. It seems that git does not take the proxy info layman has into account. Tried also to export the proxy: export http_proxy=":" or export http_proxy="http://:" before executing layman -a x11 but this didn't help. How to overcome the problem ? Does layman pass the proxy info to the executed sub-programs (i.e. cvs, subversion, git, ...) ? (it not that may be an enchancement) regards Petric
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:25:36 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. > > Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any > > good. > > If I may use (most of) your words: "Well, it works here. It's been > rock-solid through months." And with various use-cases, if I may add. > > Can you elaborate why the audio architecture has to be close to the > kernel? The part that talks to the hardware obviously has to, but why > the part that handles the features, the mixes, the virtual devices? > I'm under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that it was one of > the major reasons to leave OSS4 outside the upstream kernel; too many > stuff in there that belongs in user space. It sounds reasonable to me. Well the general rule of good design is that a daemon the user will use to tell to do $STUFF is a daemon and runs in user space. Like wicd - you tell it to please stop using the wireless interface now that you have plugged in an ethernet cable, and all this happens in userspace. The daemon tells the kernel which drivers to activate and with what parameters (grossly simplified description). The kernel is a big fat box with drivers in it, and it also knows how to do neat things like scheduling. From that point of view, that aspect of PulseAudio's design is indeed correct. Aside: I might not like PulseAudio much (I don't need any of it's new features) but it sure is better than esd or aRTs -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:21:27 Graham Murray wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] > > (not completely sure about the versions) > > > > Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm > > > > Hopefully it will be *very* temporary > > It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break with the Nouveau > driver. That's good news. The next question is the horrible one: does nouveau actually work* yet? I had to switch back to nvidia proprietary as mouveau had every imaginable feature I want (especially how to deal with two monitors in a sane way) and the features functioned correctly, excep that the whole package did not work. *work: By this I mean work to be synonymous with "perform at adequate speed". 500ms lag on getting a 2D desktop to do something is not defined as "perform" The engineer in me says this is really just a matter of finding the correct 4 bits to flip in the right register at the right time, so I have high hope for nouveau. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [snip] > What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse > is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. If I may use (most of) your words: "Well, it works here. It's been rock-solid through months." And with various use-cases, if I may add. Can you elaborate why the audio architecture has to be close to the kernel? The part that talks to the hardware obviously has to, but why the part that handles the features, the mixes, the virtual devices? I'm under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that it was one of the major reasons to leave OSS4 outside the upstream kernel; too many stuff in there that belongs in user space. It sounds reasonable to me. Specially when PulseAudio just works, for me and many more. [snip] > ALSA can't switch to Bluetooth either. You could use PulseAudio with OSS4 > instead of with ALSA though, but this is not officially supported. Indeed it's not supported, because it's (using your words again) "broken by design" by trying to do too many things inside the kernel that belong in user space. That's my understanding at least; please correct me if you believe I'm mistaken. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
Alan McKinnon writes: > There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not > completely sure about the versions) > > Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm > > Hopefully it will be *very* temporary It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break with the Nouveau driver.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
>> > I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but >> >> > compilation fails: >> I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This >> driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that >> driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. >> >> Also, as a consequence, trying to use nouveau-drm means you're getting >> an outdated driver, since AFAIK the updates happen in-kernel now. > > There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not > completely sure about the versions) > > Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm > > Hopefully it will be *very* temporary Have you installed nouveau-drm? If so, do you get kernel config warnings during the emerge? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
>>> I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but >>> compilation fails: >> >> I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This >> driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that driver >> moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. > > Well, the xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100510 ebuild says: > > Nouveau DRM not detected. If you want any kind of > acceleration with nouveau, emerge x11-base/nouveau-drm or > enable CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU in the kernel. > Nouveau DRM in kernel 2.6.33 is API incompatible to >>=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18, please use x11-base/nouveau-drm > instead. > > Unfortunately, the same ebuild depends on >=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.19. I > tried to ignore the warning but X fails with: > > (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol > (EE) No devices detected. > > The xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.15_pre20100213 ebuild only depends on >>=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18_pre so I installed those but I still get the > errors above when trying to start X. > > Any ideas? Do you have nouveau working? > > - Grant I forgot to mention that I have CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU enabled in my 2.6.33 kernel and nouveau-firmware is loading successfully. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
>> I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but >> compilation fails: > > I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This > driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that driver > moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. Well, the xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100510 ebuild says: Nouveau DRM not detected. If you want any kind of acceleration with nouveau, emerge x11-base/nouveau-drm or enable CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU in the kernel. Nouveau DRM in kernel 2.6.33 is API incompatible to >=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18, please use x11-base/nouveau-drm instead. Unfortunately, the same ebuild depends on >=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.19. I tried to ignore the warning but X fails with: (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol (EE) No devices detected. The xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.15_pre20100213 ebuild only depends on >=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.18_pre so I installed those but I still get the errors above when trying to start X. Any ideas? Do you have nouveau working? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 05/20/2010 09:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they work. You should care, because if it breaks inside the kernel, it probably takes away the whole operating system. And then you lose work and you're sad. Well, it doesn't break here. It's been rock-solid through the years. It's too bad it's going to die though; it was the only way to get solid sound for me. ALSA with its out-of-kernel dmix sucked, like, forever. What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. But don't take my word for it; Intel+Nokia are using PulseAudio in MeeGo, and Google it's doing the same with Android. They are making an opinion with their wallets. (And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.) ALSA can't switch to Bluetooth either. You could use PulseAudio with OSS4 instead of with ALSA though, but this is not officially supported.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
On Thursday 20 May 2010 19:32:33 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: > > I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but > > > compilation fails: > I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This > driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that > driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. > > Also, as a consequence, trying to use nouveau-drm means you're getting > an outdated driver, since AFAIK the updates happen in-kernel now. There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not completely sure about the versions) Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm Hopefully it will be *very* temporary -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip > (And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to > switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so > as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.) With just a few clicks, I should add. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> Don't >> even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the >> kernel. > > I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they > work. You should care, because if it breaks inside the kernel, it probably takes away the whole operating system. And then you lose work and you're sad. But don't take my word for it; Intel+Nokia are using PulseAudio in MeeGo, and Google it's doing the same with Android. They are making an opinion with their wallets. (And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.) Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] problem updating python
Hi everyone
I'm trying to install on a sparc architecture SUN Ultra45.
At the time to install a new slot of python I got the this error...
livecd elog # emerge -auv dev-lang/python
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 USE="gdbm ncurses readline
ssl threads (wide-unicode) xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -ipv6
-sqlite -tk -wininst" 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
>>> Verifying ebuild Manifests...
>>> Emerging (1 of 1) dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 to /
* Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
...
[ ok ]
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking Python-2.5.4.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking python-gentoo-patches-2.5.4-r3.tar.bz2 ;-) ...
[ ok ]
*
* ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
* Call stack:
*ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
* python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
*python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
*python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
version of Python not set"
* The die message:
* PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
*
* Messages for package dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4:
*
* ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4 failed.
* Call stack:
*ebuild.sh, line 49: Called pkg_setup
* python-2.5.4-r4.ebuild, line 58: Called python_pkg_setup
*python.eclass, line 335: Called PYTHON 'pkg_setup'
*python.eclass, line 1320: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "${FUNCNAME}(): Main active
version of Python not set"
* The die message:
* PYTHON(): Main active version of Python not set
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4/temp/die.env'.
*
livecd elog #
livecd elog # emerge --search python
Searching...
[ Results for search key : python ]
[ Applications found : 117 ]
* app-admin/eselect-python
Latest version available: 20091230
Latest version installed: 20091230
Size of files: 5 kB
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org
Description: Eselect module for management of multiple Python versions
License: GPL-2
* app-admin/python-updater
Latest version available: 0.8
Latest version installed: 0.8
Size of files: 7 kB
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python
Description: Script used to remerge python packages when
changing Python version.
License: GPL-2
* app-emacs/python-mode [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 5.1.0
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 36 kB
Homepage: https://launchpad.net/python-mode
Description: An Emacs major mode for editing Python source
License: GPL-3
* app-pda/libopensync-plugin-python [ Masked ]
Latest version available:
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 0 kB
Homepage: http://www.opensync.org/
Description: OpenSync Python Module
License: LGPL-2.1
* app-vim/vimpython
Latest version available: 1.11
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 3 kB
Homepage: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=30
Description: vim plugin: A set of menus/shortcuts to work with
Python files
License: vim
* app-xemacs/python-modes
Latest version available: 1.08
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 90 kB
Homepage: http://xemacs.org/
Description: Python support.
License: GPL-2
* dev-lang/python
Latest version available: 2.5.4-r4
Latest version installed: 2.4.6
Size of files: 9,610 kB
Homepage: http://www.python.org/
Description: Python is an interpreted, interactive,
object-oriented programming language.
License: PSF-2.2
* dev-perl/Inline-Python
Latest version available: 0.28
Latest version installed: [ Not In
[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they work.
[gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
On 05/20/2010 08:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. Also, as a consequence, trying to use nouveau-drm means you're getting an outdated driver, since AFAIK the updates happen in-kernel now. I forgot to mention *where* in the kernel configuration you can enable nouveau. It's in Device Drivers->Staging drivers
[gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure
On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other DRM drivers. Also, as a consequence, trying to use nouveau-drm means you're getting an outdated driver, since AFAIK the updates happen in-kernel now.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > Like an earlier poster suggested, PulseAudio looks like a hammer in search of > a nail. I have a bluetooth headset. I set it up with gnome-bluetooth, and with PulseAudio I can dynamically redirect the output in my laptop from the speakers to the headset and back; it also redirects it automatically when my headset gets disconnected or runs out of battery. Good luck doing that with ALSA. PulseAudio is here to stay, and for a very good reason I say. It's not "too complicated" or "overkill"; a modern sound architecture for desktop computers was in dire need for Linux, and PulseAudio was the first complete and (more important) correct designed solution. Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. This is why *ALL* the Linux based mobile phones use PulseAudio: it *works*, and it *makes sense* from a technical point of view. It sucked for a long time? Indeed it did; just like KDE 4.0 sucked immediately afer KDE 3.5; just like X.org sucked at the very beginning; just like ALSA sucked when it replaced OSS; just like GNOME 2.0 sucked. Innovation is expensive. I have PulseAudio running perfectly in my laptop, my desktop, *and* my MediaCenter connected to my 5.1 system. Via HDMI, by the way. I thank for PulseAudio; now, after the initial (and very annoying) problems, it works, it doesn't get in the way, and it's flexible enough to adapt to new hardware and new sound solutions. Bluetooth headsets it's just one example (but a very good one I believe; everything is going wireless); there are USB sound cards, transparently output the music from my laptop to my MediaCenter, and, of course, little beeps from the GUI when I click a menu item. I repeat: PulseAudio is here to stay. You can purge it out of your system, but more and more applications will make use of it, and eventually you will not be able to have a desktop without it. Right now it works flawlessly in the majority of hardware; I highly recommend to start using it now (it's stable in Gentoo since a couple of months ago, I believe); and better get used to it. Because it's not going anywhere. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] nouveau-drm compile failure
I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: /var/tmp/portage/x11-base/nouveau-drm-20100316/work/master/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drv.c: In function 'nouveau_pci_suspend': /var/tmp/portage/x11-base/nouveau-drm-20100316/work/master/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drv.c:232: error: implicit declaration of function 'acquire_console_sem' /var/tmp/portage/x11-base/nouveau-drm-20100316/work/master/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drv.c:234: error: implicit declaration of function 'release_console_sem' I get kernel config warnings: * CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT: is not set when it should be. * CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA: is not set when it should be. * CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT:is not set when it should be. But those kernel options are required to be automatically selected by a list of dependant options which is very long and very ridiculous. Are those options the reason for the compile failure? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thu, 20 May 2010 14:07:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The root word it derives from basically means "to make smaller or > > less important". > > Actually, in the Mother Tongue, it means "to express disapproval of" (I > quote an Oxford English dictionary). You quote one of the three definitions in the OED. The second is "plead earnestly against", which applies here. The third is "pray against" which applies just before removal fro the tree :) -- Neil Bothwick 668 - The neighbour of the beast. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Issue
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:14 AM, CJoeB wrote: > Hi, > > I had wireless working just fine back when I was using the > 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 kernel. Since upgrading to the 2.6.30 series of > kernels, I haven't been able to get it working. I was using the ipw3945 > driver, but this driver needs TKIP and something else (don't remember > what) set in the cryptographic section of the kernel source. I can't > seem to find where that is located, if it is in the kernel that I am > currently running - 2.6.31-gentoo-r10. If I remember correctly, I think there were major changes to kernel wireless infrastructure introduced in 2.6.30. And in wpa_supplicant some changes had to be made for some people, like changing the driver (in my case from -Dmadwifi to -Dwext). Sorry I'm not familiar with your particular driver but I know there were major changes in general around that time. You may also need to emerge net-wireless/iw if you don't have it already. In the crypto/cipher section of the kernel I've found it easiest to just build all of them as modules and then they're available if needed.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure
Am 20.05.2010 12:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 19.05.2010 00:23, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: > >> OK, but don't stop there. pam_mount really just ultimatively runs >> mount.crypt; and it tells you that it does by means of syslog (with >> enabled debug=1 of course). >> >> command: 'mount.crypt' '-ofsk > > Sorry, I don't see that in my logs (yep, debug=1). debug=2 didn't show anything new, btw. -- Trying pmt-ehd for a change: # pmt-ehd -f /dev/VG01/sgwcrypt -p /etc/security/sgwcrypt.enc -h md5 -D -s 25000 Creating a new container at /dev/VG01/sgwcrypt /dev/VG01/sgwcrypt is a symlink and points to ../dm-2 Do you really want to overwrite /dev/VG01/sgwcrypt? (y/n) y Writing random data to container Password: Reenter password: Using openssl cipher "aes-256-cbc" and hash "md5" ehd(crypto-dmc.c:144): Using _dev_VG01_sgwcrypt as dmdevice name crypt_activate: No such file or directory Oh my ...
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups
Mick wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:56:23 Alex Schuster wrote: > > But my main problem is another one: How do I tell CUPS which device > > my printer is? I tried usb:/dev/usb/lp0 (found this notation when > > googling 'usb printer device uri'), but nothing happens when I try > > to print. > > This is the cups driver (in kernel) which ought to pick up your usb > printer and use it without problems. However, according to your logs > ... there seems to be a clash: > > > There is a message in syslog that is being repeated hundreds of > > times: May 15 22:25:55 [kernel] usb 1-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed > > by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 And I just found this: May 15 22:17:40 [kernel] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 May 15 22:17:41 [kernel] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x10A5 May 15 22:17:41 [kernel] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp May 15 22:17:46 [hal_lpadmin] File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 717, in main_h = HalLpAdmin() May 15 22:17:46 [hal_lpadmin] File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 686, in __init___self.addPrinter() May 15 22:17:46 [hal_lpadmin] File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 700, in addPrinter_printer.add() May 15 22:17:46 [hal_lpadmin] File "/usr/libexec/hal_lpadmin", line 541, in add_location=os.uname ()[1]) May 15 22:17:46 [hal_lpadmin] IPPError: (1280, 'server-error-internal- error') > So, what happens if you build usblp as a module and you modprobe -rv > ubslp? Does cups pick up your printer now? I was too busy to try this. And I don't have the printer here right now. But I will try this soon, so thanks. > > And now it gets really crazy: In the printer overview I see not only > > the 'iP5200' I just created, but also a 'iP52002' that has the > > device URI 'usb://Canon/iP5200'. What did create this?! > > > > But printing to that does not work either. > > I suspect that this was created by the gutenprint driver that you > installed. I believe that if you resolve the usblp error first then > you'll know if gutenprint is necessary or if it will work. Some > manual tweaking of the ppd file may also be needed to print in higher > resolutions, but let's get it to print first. > > Stop press! > > I just checked again your first post: You are using cups 1.4 which > accesses raw usb devices! Definitely remove usblp (or blacklist it > and reboot if you don't want to recompile your kernel, or can't > modprobe -r) and see if the cups back end picks up your printer on its > own. Thanks Mick! I will try again soon, this time on another Gentoo machine, where the printer finally belongs. I just wanted to try it out and to check the printing results. Well, this did not work at all, but at least I know now that it should be supported, while before I was under the impression I had to use a similar driver, and hope for good results. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thursday 20 May 2010 09:20:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: > The root word it derives from basically means "to make smaller or > less important". Actually, in the Mother Tongue, it means "to express disapproval of" (I quote an Oxford English dictionary). > It's not the same thing as "depreciate" or "removed" or "obsolete" or > "disappeared". Indeed, that is most certainly true. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:40:33 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: [snip] > >> Well, since I'm first to answer I get to inject my prejudices first :) > >> > >> I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I > >> did away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it. > >> > >> Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who > >> work in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my > >> opinion is because your silly desktop sounds like beeps and boings and > >> toilets flushing interrupt the CD you're listening to. Uh, well, yeah, > >> one sound generally interrupts another, true. So what? > >> > >> I'll bet your audio would do what you expect it to do if you just > >> removed every trace of pulse from your machine and run revdep-rebuild > >> with the pulse, arts, and esd useflags disabled (if those flags still > >> exist). > >> > >> Contrary opinions will follow shortly ;) > > > > No, I don't think they will :-) > > Well, here is one :P > > "Uh, well, yeah, one sound generally interrupts another, true." > > That is not true. ALSA (most people use that one) has dmix, which mixes > all sounds from all applications together. You don't need PulseAudio > for that. PulseAudio does indeed have it's uses. Some folks really do want fine-grained control over each daemon using the sound system, but those folks are not the set of average users. Feature-wise, ALSA pretty much does everything the *average* user wants, and that user does not really want to schlepp sound over the network or tweak every individual thing making noises. Now ALSA may or may not have good-quality code in it but that's another matter. We are discussing features. Like an earlier poster suggested, PulseAudio looks like a hammer in search of a nail. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thursday 20 May 2010 11:36:46 Willie Wong wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated > > > and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to > > > those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. > > > > Each one of those packages you list has more up to date versions > > available in the tree. > > Precisely. But the exact version that is installed is no longer in > the tree. Seeing that I don't recall the portage system introducing a > deprecated flag (short of the removal notice and package.mask), I was > curious how eclean determined that those packages are deprecated. > > And also seeing that for many of the ones I listed, neither > emerge --update --deep world > nor > emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world > suggest their updates, in my case they are probably just cruft that > ought to go away once the system is brought up to date and I can run > depclean. I remember something about a "deprecated" feature somewhere. Can't remember where now, and grep doesn't reveal it... > > But am I wrong in my impression that with bdeps, the common thing to > do is to update them only when absolutely necessary? So in this case > the deprecation warning might introduce unnecessary cycles spent on > building those packages (among those who don't want to track down the > origins of those packages and just want the block of text to go away). Yes, that's pretty much true. bdeps are are deps that are only used to build stuff, not run them. So portage will only update them when it needs to build something using them. You can use bdeps=y in make.conf but most folks just leave it at the sensible default. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure
Am 19.05.2010 00:23, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: > OK, but don't stop there. pam_mount really just ultimatively runs > mount.crypt; and it tells you that it does by means of syslog (with > enabled debug=1 of course). > > command: 'mount.crypt' '-ofsk Sorry, I don't see that in my logs (yep, debug=1). May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:364): pam_mount 2.1: entering auth stage May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:552): pam_mount 2.1: entering session stage May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(misc.c:38): Session open: (uid=0, euid=0, gid=0, egid=0) May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(mount.c:196): Mount info: globalconf, user=sgw fstab=0 May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(misc.c:38): set_myuid: (uid=0, euid=0, gid=0, egid=0) May 20 12:18:03 enzo slim: pam_mount(misc.c:38): set_myuid: (uid=0, euid=0, gid=0, egid=0) May 20 12:18:12 enzo slim: pam_mount(mount.c:64): Errors from underlying mount program: May 20 12:18:12 enzo slim: pam_mount(mount.c:68): crypt_activate_by_passphrase: Operation not permitted May 20 12:18:14 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:520): mount of /dev/mapper/VG01-crypthome failed May 20 12:18:14 enzo slim: pam_mount(misc.c:38): set_myuid: (uid=0, euid=0, gid=0, egid=0) May 20 12:18:14 enzo slim: pam_mount(misc.c:38): set_myuid: (uid=0, euid=0, gid=0, egid=0) May 20 12:18:15 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:440): pmvarrun says login count is 1 May 20 12:18:16 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:642): done opening session (ret=0) May 20 12:18:16 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:115): Clean global config (0) May 20 12:18:16 enzo slim: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:132): clean system authtok=0x80bdac0 (0) > And that is what you can run from shell, which eliminates pam_mount > from the path and only leaves the usual suspects. > > Keep on it, marine! I try ;-) *sigh* Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated > > and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to > > those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. > Each one of those packages you list has more up to date versions available in > the tree. Precisely. But the exact version that is installed is no longer in the tree. Seeing that I don't recall the portage system introducing a deprecated flag (short of the removal notice and package.mask), I was curious how eclean determined that those packages are deprecated. And also seeing that for many of the ones I listed, neither emerge --update --deep world nor emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world suggest their updates, in my case they are probably just cruft that ought to go away once the system is brought up to date and I can run depclean. But am I wrong in my impression that with bdeps, the common thing to do is to update them only when absolutely necessary? So in this case the deprecation warning might introduce unnecessary cycles spent on building those packages (among those who don't want to track down the origins of those packages and just want the block of text to go away). Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
> I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I did > away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it. > > Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who work > in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my opinion is > because your silly desktop sounds like beeps and boings and toilets > flushing interrupt the CD you're listening to. Uh, well, yeah, one sound > generally interrupts another, true. So what? > > I'll bet your audio would do what you expect it to do if you just removed > every trace of pulse from your machine and run revdep-rebuild with the > pulse, arts, and esd useflags disabled (if those flags still exist). > > Contrary opinions will follow shortly ;) ok.. the reason why I use PulseAudio at all is because I need sound forwarding over network. I have an IGEPv2 board which is connected using USB-sound to my amplifier. This works fine by the way, but not using KDE applications.. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox
I checked the symlink, and it is pointed to the running kernel~~~ when I recompile the kernel with DRM support, all things back to normal.. 2010/5/20 Dale > Chen Huan wrote: > >> Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and >> execute "make modules_install", the message appears: >> >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_open >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_fasync >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_poll >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_ioctl >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_exit >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_init >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_vblank_init >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_mmap >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers >> WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown >> symbol drm_release >> >> >> and when I execute "modprobe vboxvideo", it saied >> >> FATAL: Error inserting vboxvideo >> (/lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, >> or unknown parameter (see dmesg) >> >> the output of dmesg is : >> >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_open >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_fasync >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_poll >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_ioctl >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_exit >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_init >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_vblank_init >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_mmap >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers >> vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_release >> >> >> But when I use Virtualbox, all things are normal, I wanna know why there >> are so many warnings, and why I cannot modprobe vboxvideo >> >> Does it because my kernel didn't include DRM? >> >> Many thanks >> >> > I don't know anything about virtualbox but are you sure you have the > symlink pointing to the running kernel? I mention because it sounds like > something I would do. ;-) > > Dale > > :-) :-) > >
[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote: Hi *, I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following problem: When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have the expected sound-output. But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no sound output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol... Well, since I'm first to answer I get to inject my prejudices first :) I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I did away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it. Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who work in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my opinion is because your silly desktop sounds like beeps and boings and toilets flushing interrupt the CD you're listening to. Uh, well, yeah, one sound generally interrupts another, true. So what? I'll bet your audio would do what you expect it to do if you just removed every trace of pulse from your machine and run revdep-rebuild with the pulse, arts, and esd useflags disabled (if those flags still exist). Contrary opinions will follow shortly ;) No, I don't think they will :-) Well, here is one :P "Uh, well, yeah, one sound generally interrupts another, true." That is not true. ALSA (most people use that one) has dmix, which mixes all sounds from all applications together. You don't need PulseAudio for that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:05:57 Willie Wong wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 07:38:43AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 20 May 2010 06:34:37 Willie Wong wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean > > > out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it generated a bit of interesting > > > > > > output that I haven't seen before: > > >The folowing Deprecated installed packages were found > > > > > > media-libs/libpng-1.2.43-r1 > > > dev-python/reportlab-2.3-r1 > > > app-i18n/gcin-1.4.7_pre17 > > > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r9 > > > dev-perl/URI-1.53 > > > dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.22 > > > > > > I don't see anything about this feature in 'man eclean'; does anyone > > > know what this is all about? > > > > It means those package version are deprecated and you are encouraged to > > upgrade them. > > Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated > and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to > those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. > > So I guess I'm not going to worry too much about it: if they haven't > gotten updated regularly that probably means they are either bdeps or > that they will be depcleaned the next time I do it. This word "deprecated" confuses tons of people. I don't know if it does that to you or not, but lots of other people read this list, so for their benefit here goes. "deprecated" means "this package has been superceded by something else and although it is still available and works, you are encouraged to stop using it and upgrade". The intent is that eventually a deprecated package will go away. The root word it derives from basically means "to make smaller or less important". It's not the same thing as "depreciate" or "removed" or "obsolete" or "disappeared". Each one of those packages you list has more up to date versions available in the tree. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] corefonts being depcleaned?
On Thursday 20 May 2010 05:35:40 Stroller wrote: > On 19 May 2010, at 23:14, David W Noon wrote: > > On Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:03 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] > > corefonts being depcleaned?: > > > > [snip] > > > >> Yea, it has times, ariel and a few others that I use a lot so it has > >> to stay. I was going to try without it but I use those a lot. Ariel > >> is really good for me to read with these old glasses. > > > > Arial is simply the TrueType clone of Helvetica ... > > Helvetica (in red) overlaid with Arial (in blue): > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arial_Helvetica_overlay2.svg > > "Though nearly identical to Linotype Helvetica in both proportion and > weight (see figure), the design of Arial is in fact a variation of > Monotype Grotesque, ... Subtle changes and variations were made to > both the letterforms and the spacing between characters, in order to > make it more readable on screen and at various resolutions." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arial > > Stroller. Quite correct. Typefaces are not normally interchangeable with no side effects. They have purposes and intended applications, like most other stuff in life. Arial was designed to work well as a menubar font so it can display "File Edit View ..." etc in as little horizontal space as possible. And it does this very very well. I use Dejavu for this because I'm a pedantic old license-nitpicking geek but I can see that Arial is actually a tad better for the job. Verdana OTOH is designed for web pages. These consist of brief terse paragraphs that the eye must absorb rapidly with a minimum of clutter around the glyphs - that's why it is a sans-serif font. It is completely unsuited to being type-set like a novel. Try it and see - reformat a regular book in Verdana and try read it. Your eyes will explode and you'll get headaches in short order. Then do it in Times New Roman. Ah, bliss. That works better. corefonts are excellent at their intended purpose. Almost nothing out there does it better. The Liberation package from RedHat tries to match it and comes very close, with the additional benefit of being completely free and untainted by the Big Bad Dominant OS Company -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: > On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote: > > Hi *, > > > > I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following > > problem: > > > > When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is > > perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i > > have the expected sound-output. > > > > But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no > > sound output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol... > > Well, since I'm first to answer I get to inject my prejudices first :) > > I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I did > away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it. > > Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who work > in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my opinion is > because your silly desktop sounds like beeps and boings and toilets > flushing interrupt the CD you're listening to. Uh, well, yeah, one sound > generally interrupts another, true. So what? > > I'll bet your audio would do what you expect it to do if you just removed > every trace of pulse from your machine and run revdep-rebuild with the > pulse, arts, and esd useflags disabled (if those flags still exist). > > Contrary opinions will follow shortly ;) No, I don't think they will :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 07:38:43AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 20 May 2010 06:34:37 Willie Wong wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean > > out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it generated a bit of interesting > > output that I haven't seen before: > > > >The folowing Deprecated installed packages were found > > media-libs/libpng-1.2.43-r1 > > dev-python/reportlab-2.3-r1 > > app-i18n/gcin-1.4.7_pre17 > > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r9 > > dev-perl/URI-1.53 > > dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.22 > > > > I don't see anything about this feature in 'man eclean'; does anyone know > > what this is all about? > > It means those package version are deprecated and you are encouraged to > upgrade them. > Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. So I guess I'm not going to worry too much about it: if they haven't gotten updated regularly that probably means they are either bdeps or that they will be depcleaned the next time I do it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox
Chen Huan wrote: Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and execute "make modules_install", the message appears: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_open WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_fasync WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_poll WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_ioctl WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_exit WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_init WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_vblank_init WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_mmap WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_release and when I execute "modprobe vboxvideo", it saied FATAL: Error inserting vboxvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) the output of dmesg is : vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_open vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_fasync vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_poll vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_ioctl vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_exit vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_init vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_vblank_init vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_mmap vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_release But when I use Virtualbox, all things are normal, I wanna know why there are so many warnings, and why I cannot modprobe vboxvideo Does it because my kernel didn't include DRM? Many thanks I don't know anything about virtualbox but are you sure you have the symlink pointing to the running kernel? I mention because it sounds like something I would do. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox
Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and execute "make modules_install", the message appears: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_open WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_fasync WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_poll WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_ioctl WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_exit WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_init WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_vblank_init WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_mmap WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_release and when I execute "modprobe vboxvideo", it saied FATAL: Error inserting vboxvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) the output of dmesg is : vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_open vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_fasync vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_poll vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_ioctl vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_exit vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_init vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_vblank_init vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_mmap vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers vboxvideo: Unknown symbol drm_release But when I use Virtualbox, all things are normal, I wanna know why there are so many warnings, and why I cannot modprobe vboxvideo Does it because my kernel didn't include DRM? Many thanks
