Re: [gentoo-user] X Windows setup questions on my new machine

2010-06-28 Thread waltdnes
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 08:26:25AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote

 Also, have you tried just using larger fonts on the console? If you
 emerge sys-apps/kbd, there should be some fonts in
 /usr/share/consolefonts. You can use setfont name to test which
 one you want to use (some of them are bigger fonts). You may also want
 to try media-fonts/terminus-font (what I use), it claims to have a
 16x32 variant which is twice as large as the default console fonts. 

  Thanks for the idea.  I'm now using sun12x22.  It gives me 160 columns
by 54 rows.  It's perfectly readable, although the right half of the
text console screen is blank most of the time.  Oh well, I'll probably
be using vsplit in vim a lot more now.

 After finding a font you like you can set it in
 /etc/conf.d/consolefont to automatically load at boot time. 

  I used to do that with vga=6 in /etc/lilo.conf and lat1-10 in
/etc/conf.d/consolefont which combined to give me a nice crisp 48 row
display.

-- 
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[gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-28 Thread waltdnes
  I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit
Gentoo.  I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it.
What are people's experiences with different VM environments?  Google
searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis.  My CPU...

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 37
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530  @ 2.93GHz
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2933.000
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 4
core id : 2
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 5
initial apicid  : 5
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 11
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good
xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2
ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat tpr_shadow vnmi
flexpriority ept vpid
bogomips: 5851.93
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:


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Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 28.06.2010 08:19, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org:
   I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit
 Gentoo.  I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it.
 What are people's experiences with different VM environments?  Google
 searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis.  My CPU...
 
 model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530  @ 2.93GHz

I use vmware-server and also kvm for VMs.

Both work.

vmware:

I don't really like the web-gui, it sometimes is buggy and unreliable,
has ssl-issues and you need a specific firefox-plugin to access the
console of the VMs. It brings its own tomcat-server etc., somehow not as
minimalistic as we gentoo-users like things ...

I also don't like the need to always log into that gui as I am
single-user here anyway. Might be some small hack in PAM or so, never
researched that.

Aside from these issues vmware runs fine, and I like the fact that I am
able to connect 2 very similar USB-serial-converters to one VM,
something that KVM is not yet able to support AFAIK (I need them for my
Suunto heart-rate-monitor and GPS, both cables have the same USB-id ...).

This is the main reason why I haven't yet fully migrated my own VMs to ...

KVM:

It feels (and is) faster. Less overhead.

I really appreciate the fact that it is in the kernel, you just enable
it once and it is there ...

Very little overhead, VMs feel fast and snappy.

For gui I use virt-manager on top of libvirt, nice feature to have all
your VMs at hand in one small gnome-applet ... (it should be possible to
also control vmware-servers with libvirt, but this has been unreliable
for me).

I like the virtio-drivers for block- and network-devices. Fast and direct.

The network-setup for kvm is somewhat more complicated at first, all
that bridging and qtap and stuff, vmware does hide that more from you or
somehow makes it easier to administer (my experience ... it is very
likely that I don't know things ...).

-

In general both systems work fine, I use vmware out of historical
reasons (KVM wasn't there or as ready when I started using VMs) and KVM
as it seems to grow up and become a really powerful and open alternative.

In fact it is already ...

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-28 Thread Maximilian Bräutigam
Am 28.06.2010 08:19, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org:
   I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit
 Gentoo.  I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it.
 What are people's experiences with different VM environments?  Google
 searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis.  My CPU...
 
 processor   : 3
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 37
 model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530  @ 2.93GHz
 stepping: 2
 cpu MHz : 2933.000
 cache size  : 4096 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 4
 core id : 2
 cpu cores   : 2
 apicid  : 5
 initial apicid  : 5
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 11
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
 mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe
 syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good
 xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2
 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat tpr_shadow vnmi
 flexpriority ept vpid
 bogomips: 5851.93
 clflush size: 64
 cache_alignment : 64
 address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management:
 
 

Hi,

I'm using app-emulation/virtualbox-bin and it works really great, even
forwarding of usb devices, but I only tested WinXP in the box for
printing purpose. If you wanna have an open source product, consider
app-emulation/virtualbox-ose (open source edition).

* app-emulation/virtualbox-ose
 Available versions:  3.0.12 3.1.8 (~)3.2.4-r1 (~)3.2.6 **
{+additions alsa +hal headless kernel_linux +opengl pulseaudio python
+qt4 sdk vboxwebsrv}
 Best versions/slot:  (~)3.2.6
 Homepage:http://www.virtualbox.org/
 Description: Softwarefamily of powerful x86 virtualization
 License: GPL-2

* app-emulation/virtualbox-bin
 Available versions:  3.0.12+i!m 3.1.8+i!m (~)3.2.4-r1+i!m
(~)3.2.6+i!m {+additions +chm headless python rdesktop-vrdp sdk vboxwebsrv}
 Installed versions:  Version: 3.2.6+i!m
  Date:09:34:26 28.06.2010
  USE: additions chm python -headless
-rdesktop-vrdp -sdk -vboxwebsrv
 Best versions/slot:  (~)3.2.6+i!m
 Homepage:http://www.virtualbox.org/
 Description: Family of powerful x86 virtualization products
for enterprise as well as home use
 License: PUEL

Kind regards,
der Max



Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-28 Thread Robin Atwood
On Monday 28 June 2010, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
   I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit
 Gentoo.  I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it.
 What are people's experiences with different VM environments?  Google
 searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis.  My CPU...

I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it just worked (TM)! It is also 
incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo).

HTH
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?

2010-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:40:53 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote:

 I'm using app-emulation/virtualbox-bin and it works really great, even
 forwarding of usb devices, but I only tested WinXP in the box for
 printing purpose. If you wanna have an open source product, consider
 app-emulation/virtualbox-ose (open source edition).

But bear in mind the the OSE has no USB support.


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[gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?

2010-06-28 Thread Mick
The emerge of sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 fails as follows:
=
# emerge -uDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 [3.1.2] USE=-sensord 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB


 Verifying ebuild manifests

 Emerging (1 of 1) sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1
 * lm_sensors-3.1.2.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...[ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...   [ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...  [ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
 * CPV:  sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1
 * REPO: gentoo
 * USE:  amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU
 * Determining the location of the kernel source code
 * Found kernel source directory:
 * /usr/src/linux
 * Found kernel object directory:
 * /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/build
 * Found sources for kernel version:
 * 2.6.33-gentoo-r2
 * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options...[ ok ]
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking lm_sensors-3.1.2.tar.bz2 to 
 /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work
 Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work
 Preparing source in 
 /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work/lm_sensors-3.1.2 ...
 * Applying lm_sensors-3.1.2-sensors-detect-gentoo.patch ...[ ok ]
 * Applying lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch ...

 * Failed Patch: lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch !
 *  ( 
/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch
)
=

This is what the  patch.out file says:

* lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch *

==

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p0 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch 
'/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch'

==
patching file prog/sensord/rrd.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 138.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 150.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 161.
Hunk #4 FAILED at 187.
Hunk #5 FAILED at 200.
5 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file prog/sensord/rrd.c.rej
==

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p1 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch 
'/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch'

==
can't find file to patch at input line 6
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083
|http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835
|
|--- prog/sensord/rrd.c
|+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
* lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch *

==

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p0 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch  '/usr/portage/sys-ap
ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch'

==
patching file prog/sensord/rrd.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 138.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 150.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 161.
Hunk #4 FAILED at 187.
Hunk #5 FAILED at 200.
5 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file prog/sensord/rrd.c.rej
==

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p1 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch  '/usr/portage/sys-ap
ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch'

==
can't find file to patch at input line 6
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083
|http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835
|
|--- prog/sensord/rrd.c
|+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored
==

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p2 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch  '/usr/portage/sys-ap
ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch'

==
can't find file to patch at input line 6
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083
|http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835
|
|--- prog/sensord/rrd.c
|+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored
==

Shall I delete the patch from
/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch
and resync?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?

2010-06-28 Thread justin
The patch was borked. Either bump to latest sys-devel/patch-2.6.1 or
resync later. It is fixed now.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel configuration problem -- genkernel: no irq handler; manual config: root filesystem could not be mounted r/w

2010-06-28 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/25/2010 12:17 PM, rocwhite168 wrote:
 Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up.
 VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy.
 VFS: Cannot open root device sda5 or unknown-block(2,0)
 Please append ac correct root= boot option; here are the
 available partitions:
 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on
 unknown-block(2,0)
 Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.31-gentoo-r10 #2
 
 I searched the Internet for a while, but still can't find any solutions.
 The root partition is definitely sda5, as also specified in the fstab file.

One of the things you might consider doing is jumping into the busybox
shell and poking around /dev for the names of the devices you have. (I'm
assuming you boot with grub - that's what those messages look like to
me.) You might be able to insmod all your modules from there, too, and
see if you get the devices installed.

Roc, in one of your posts, you listed your grub.conf line and, according
to the gmane entry, anyway, it looks like it's split across two lines.
Could it be that simple? Is your grub.conf entry for the kernel command
on just one line? (Genkernel added the entry so I'm obviously grabbing
at straws here)



Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?

2010-06-28 Thread Mick
On 28 June 2010 15:40, justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote:
 The patch was borked. Either bump to latest sys-devel/patch-2.6.1 or
 resync later. It is fixed now.


Thanks, will have another go.

-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage tree from git

2010-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.06.2010 17:07, schrieb Peter Humphrey:
 On Sunday 27 June 2010 12:15:50 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
 is there yet a way to get the portage tree directly via git ?

 IMHO this should be more traffic efficient than rsync in the
 long run (especially when syncing often).
 
 I sometimes wonder whether I should file a feature request on rsync, to 
 make it offer a mode in which only directories in which it does something 
 are listed on stdout. I shudder to think of the CPU cycles that are 
 wasted daily on scrolling all those directory names up the screen during 
 an emerge --sync. 21293 of them on this box today, altogether.
 

It has been discussed on gentoo-dev some months ago. Some people were
afraid that git would use too many file stats on every operation to be
usable (performance-wise). I don't know the outcome of that discussion.
Part of it probably took place on IRC. Maybe someone more interested
than me can read it up and summarize?

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] XServer hal useflag

2010-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.06.2010 20:32, schrieb Albert Hopkins:
 On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 20:24 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
[..]
 I'm a bit confused about the meaning of the hal useflag on the
 x11-base/xorg-server ebuilds nowadays. When I deactivate it, hot-plugin
 a mouse does not work and special keys on the keyboard are not detected.
 When I enable it, everything works but several driver packages (evdev
 and mouse, probably others) want me to deactivate it.

[...]
 So many softwares that used hal before are or have
 migrated to something else, such as udev.  Xorg has also chosen to do
 this, and so the newer Xorg servers can use udev instead of hal.  There
 is a udev flag for xorg-server.  You can/should use this instead of hal.
[...]

Thanks for the update! Unfortunately, the first X-Server version with a
udev useflag hasn't been stabilized on AMD64, yet. I keyworded it and it
worked ... somewhat. I now have other problems but since these are
unrelated to hal vs. udev, I open another thread for it.

Thanks,
Florian Philipp



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[gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability

2010-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list!

I ran into a massive problem when I tried to update to xorg-server-1.8:
When I tried to start it, the x-server didn't come up and wrote this
error: (EE) intel(0): No kernel modesetting driver detected.

So I activated modesetting by default in the kernel and tried it again.
Now I have two distinct problems:

1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is
started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot
errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't
like to make a filesystem recovery blindfolded ;)

2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and
restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown
anything suspicious.

In the end that means that I'm currently stuck with xorg-server-1.7 and
no modesetting.

For reference, my system:
Dell Latitude D520
Intel GMA 945 (i915 driver)
64bit, libs mostly from stable
screen resolution 1400x1050

Thanks in advance,
Florian Philipp



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[gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain
application without emerging the application itself? And: Will
I hurt the system that way?

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain
 application without emerging the application itself? And: Will
 I hurt the system that way?

 Best regards,
 mcc

???

emerge -DuN application

???

What am I missing in the question?

Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge
nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should
pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself.

You will not hurt your system doing that command.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-06-28 19:16]:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain
  application without emerging the application itself? And: Will
  I hurt the system that way?
 
  Best regards,
  mcc
 
 ???
 
 emerge -DuN application
 
 ???
 
 What am I missing in the question?
 
 Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge
 nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should
 pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself.
 
 You will not hurt your system doing that command.
 
 - Mark
 

Hi Mark,

thanks a lot!

You helped me!
Best regards,
mcc




[gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?

2010-06-28 Thread Mateusz Mierzwiński
Hi,

I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on
Wine (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC,
XMMS, Amarok and even songbird just as many others? 

What's wrong with decoding of audio if I have such feeling running
now Winamp?

Thanks,
Mateusz M.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-06-28 19:16]:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain
  application without emerging the application itself? And: Will
  I hurt the system that way?
 
  Best regards,
  mcc

 ???

 emerge -DuN application

 ???

 What am I missing in the question?

 Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge
 nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should
 pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself.

 You will not hurt your system doing that command.

 - Mark


 Hi Mark,

 thanks a lot!

 You helped me!
 Best regards,
 mcc

:-)

Glad it was easy!

Cheers,
Mark



[gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-28 Thread mailinglists00
hi all!

My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
web browser with a page with pictures and text.
If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
takes a moment. 
I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much 
faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
Any of you experienced similap problem?

Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
pastebin?

I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.

Thanks for reading...
bendeguz



[gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment

2010-06-28 Thread Mick
It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no longer in 
portage.  I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck:

=
[snip ...]
 * All prepared. Starting rebuild
emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend  dev-libs/e_dbus:0
dev-libs/ecore:0
media-libs/edje:0
media-libs/evas:0
net-libs/exchange:0
x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs.
(dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild])
(dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument])

 * 
 * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages.
=

I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it won't 
do.  :-(

What now?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-28 Thread Alex Schuster
mailinglist...@gmail.com writes:

 My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
 web browser with a page with pictures and text.
 If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
 the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
 takes a moment.
 I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
 faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
 dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
 I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
 some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
 Any of you experienced similap problem?
 
 Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
 pastebin?

I'd prefer it here, but I doubt USE flags matter much. 

 I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
 and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.

Which drivers do you use, ati-drivers / fglrx or xf86-video-ati / radeon? 
Is the 3D performance okay?

Daniel Troeder just wrote in the 'ATI  RV710/730' thread:

  ATI: 3D is very good - a must for gaming, 2D is SLOW! (thou they did
  something about that  with 10.6 - experience differs for users - its
  said that window management is fast now, but video still has tearing
  effect [also my exp.])
  Latest driver (10.6) work with xorg-server-1.7.x only and kernel module
  has problems with =2.6.34 (exp. differ).
  
  Xorg: 3D is basic and very slow but works (the newer the driver/server
  the better, development is VERY fast), 2D is a dream (very fast, no
  tearing with video)!
  Driver is released with Xorg - so work always with newest Xorg, kernel
  module is in-kernel - work always with newest kernel :) Driver supports
  both KMS and user space MS.

I only use the ati-drivers, and 2D does not seem slow to me, but I cannot 
compare with the radeon driver, because the dammn thing never worked for 
me.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-28 Thread Dale

mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote:

hi all!

My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
web browser with a page with pictures and text.
If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
takes a moment.
I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
Any of you experienced similap problem?

Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
pastebin?

I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.

Thanks for reading...
bendeguz
   


You can paste emerge --info here.  You can snip parts that are not 
relevant if needed.  I usually remove mirrors and such.  Also post the 
version of drivers and such as well.  Using emerge -pv package names 
is the best way.  Then just give everybody time to give it a look and 
see if they see anything wrong or something you can try.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-28 Thread mailinglists00
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 02:38:22PM -0500, Dale wrote:
 mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi all!
 
  My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
  web browser with a page with pictures and text.
  If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
  the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
  takes a moment.
  I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
  faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
  dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
  I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
  some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
  Any of you experienced similap problem?
 
  Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
  pastebin?
 
  I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
  and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
 
  Thanks for reading...
  bendeguz
 
 
 You can paste emerge --info here.  You can snip parts that are not 
 relevant if needed.  I usually remove mirrors and such.  Also post the 
 version of drivers and such as well.  Using emerge -pv package names 
 is the best way.  Then just give everybody time to give it a look and 
 see if they see anything wrong or something you can try.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

Thank you, so here it goes... 

@Alex: yes, 3D performance is okay.
I know glxgears is not a benchmark, but it
shows the same result on ubuntu livecd as on gentoo.
I think there is a newer card with similar name, radeon
7500, but this is the old one, ~7 years old, so I
can only use the open source radeon driver.

@Dale and everybody:

 eix xf86-video-ati
[U] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati
 Available versions:  6.12.1-r1{tbz2} 6.12.5{tbz2} 6.12.6 (~)6.12.7 
(~)6.13.0{tbz2} {debug}
 Installed versions:  6.12.1-r1{tbz2}(07:33:06 PM 06/19/2010)(-debug)

[D] x11-base/xorg-server
 Available versions:  [m]1.6.5-r1{tbz2} [m]1.7.6{tbz2} [m](~)1.7.7 
[m](~)1.8.0 
[m](~)1.8.1.901{tbz2} [m](~)1.8.1.902 {debug dmx doc hal ipv6 kdrive minimal 
nptl sdl 
static-libs tslib +udev xorg}
 Installed versions:  1.6.5-r1{tbz2}(05:10:15 PM 06/26/2010)(hal nptl xorg 
-debug -dmx -ipv6 
-kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib)

X server 1.7.x and 1.8.x are much worse than this one, so I don't want to 
upgrade it.

[U] media-libs/mesa
 Available versions:  7.5.2{tbz2} 7.7.1 (~)7.8.2 {debug +gallium 
kernel_FreeBSD motif 
(+)nptl pic selinux video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga 
video_cards_none 
video_cards_nouveau video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd 
video_cards_s3virge 
video_cards_savage video_cards_sis video_cards_sunffb video_cards_svga 
video_cards_tdfx 
video_cards_trident video_cards_via (+)xcb}
 Installed versions:  7.5.2{tbz2}(04:58:17 PM 06/26/2010)(nptl pic 
video_cards_radeon xcb 
-debug -kernel_FreeBSD -motif -video_cards_intel -video_cards_mach64 
-video_cards_mga 
-video_cards_none -video_cards_r128 -video_cards_radeonhd -video_cards_s3virge 
-video_cards_savage -video_cards_sis -video_cards_sunffb -video_cards_tdfx 
-video_cards_trident 
-video_cards_via)

[I] x11-wm/fluxbox
 Available versions:  1.0.0 1.0.0-r2 (~)1.1.0.1 1.1.1-r1{tbz2} 
(~)1.1.1-r2{tbz2} ** 
{disableslit disabletoolbar gnome (+)imlib kde -newmousefocus nls +slit 
+toolbar (+)truetype 
vim-syntax xinerama}
 Installed versions:  1.1.1-r2{tbz2}(04:35:58 PM 06/26/2010)(imlib nls slit 
toolbar truetype 
-gnome -newmousefocus -vim-syntax -xinerama)


I don't know if it is relewant, but maybe it is:

[I] x11-libs/cairo
 Available versions:  1.8.8!t (~)1.8.8-r1!t{tbz2} (~)1.8.10!t{tbz2} {X aqua 
cleartype debug 
directfb doc glitz lcdfilter opengl +svg xcb}
 Installed versions:  1.8.10!t{tbz2}(06:07:36 PM 06/19/2010)(X opengl svg 
xcb -aqua 
-cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -lcdfilter)

[I] x11-libs/pango
 Available versions:  1.24.5-r1 1.26.2{tbz2} (~)1.28.1{tbz2} {X debug doc 
+introspection 
test}
 Installed versions:  1.28.1{tbz2}(11:44:14 AM 06/17/2010)(X -debug -doc 
-test)

[I] x11-libs/gtk+
 Available versions:  
(1) 1.2.10-r12
(2) 2.16.6 2.18.6 (~)2.18.7 2.18.9{tbz2} (~)2.20.1-r1{tbz2}
{aqua cups debug doc +introspection jpeg jpeg2k linguas_az linguas_ca 
linguas_cs 
linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi 
linguas_fr 
linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_hr linguas_hu linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ko 
linguas_lt 
linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_no linguas_pl linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro 
linguas_ru 
linguas_sk linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sv linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_vi 
nls test tiff 
vim-syntax xinerama}
 Installed versions:  2.20.1-r1(2){tbz2}(08:06:56 PM 06/16/2010)(jpeg -aqua 
-cups -debug 
-doc -jpeg2k -test -tiff -vim-syntax -xinerama)



Portage 2.1.8.3 (selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened, gcc-4.3.5, glibc-2.11.1-r0, 
2.6.32-hardened-r9 
i686)
=
System uname: 
Linux-2.6.32-hardened-r9-i686-AMD_Athlon-TM-_XP_1700+-with-gentoo-2.0.1
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:45:01 +
app-shells/bash: 

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment

2010-06-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 28 June 2010 21:23:52 Mick wrote:
 It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no longer
 in portage.  I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck:
 
 =
 [snip ...]
  * All prepared. Starting rebuild
 emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend  dev-libs/e_dbus:0
 dev-libs/ecore:0
 media-libs/edje:0
 media-libs/evas:0
 net-libs/exchange:0
 x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs.
 (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild])
 (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument])
 
  *
  * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages.
 =
 
 I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it won't
 do.  :-(

vapier's enlightenment overlay is woefully out of date, but even so you have 
not synced it in a while. That change to dev-vcs/cvs was made ages ago. 
Besides, e17 has not been in cvs for about 18 months, it's now svn

A much better supported overlay is to be found at the e17 site:
http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo

It's actively supported by the e17 gentoo-using devs, ably lead by barberei

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment

2010-06-28 Thread Mick
On Monday 28 June 2010 22:12:27 you wrote:
 On Monday 28 June 2010 21:23:52 Mick wrote:
  It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no
  longer in portage.  I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck:
  
  =
  [snip ...]
  
   * All prepared. Starting rebuild
  
  emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend  dev-libs/e_dbus:0
  dev-libs/ecore:0
  media-libs/edje:0
  media-libs/evas:0
  net-libs/exchange:0
  x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  
  emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs.
  (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild])
  (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument])
  
   *
   * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages.
  
  =
  
  I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it
  won't do.  :-(
 
 vapier's enlightenment overlay is woefully out of date, but even so you
 have not synced it in a while. That change to dev-vcs/cvs was made ages
 ago. Besides, e17 has not been in cvs for about 18 months, it's now svn
 
 A much better supported overlay is to be found at the e17 site:
 http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo
 
 It's actively supported by the e17 gentoo-using devs, ably lead by barberei

Thanks Alan, 


I have not used Vapier's overlay, but following your earlier suggestions 
(thank you again) I used efl:

http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo/Documentation/layman/overlays.xml
 
-f -a efl

I was under the impression that I have been updating efl, because I have this 
in my make.conf:

source /var/lib/layman/make.conf

Which in turn seems to contain:
==
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=
/var/lib/layman/efl
$PORTDIR_OVERLAY

==

I am a noob with layman and still trying to learn my way around it, so am I 
missing something simple here?

PS.  I resync'ed manually and ran revdep-rebuild a couple of times which 
rebuilt a few packages from enlightenment.  Will log into it in a minute, 
hopefully all will be OK.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-28 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin O'Gorman writes:

 As the OP, I'd like to know if anybody else has noticed how far OT this
 thread has gone?
 Somebody please give it a meaningful title, and maybe the right people
 will notice your thread

But I think the title is just perfect! Well, not really, because, despite 
my constant ranting and endless KDE4 problems, for which the only sane and 
obvious solution would of course be to dump this whole crap, I would 
really really hate to do so.

KDE got me addicted. I refused to use it for a long time, and had some 
crazy enlightenment setup which I was happy with, until it stopped 
working, and I gave KDE 3.something a try. I feared that the complexity 
would make showstopping bugs happen more often, but on the other hand it 
is of course nice to have an integrated system, with things like the same 
file dialog for most applications. And so I got hooked. There were some 
problems, but most of the time it worked well. But with time I experienced 
some bitrot.

Then I got a new PC, and gave KDE4.2 a try. Many many bugs, but most of 
them not really bad ones, but some nice new features instead. Like, 
konqueror still crashing often, but with recovery function. Kmail crashed 
even less - well, this was not hard. And I thought these little annoying 
bugs would be fixed soon.

But this bugfixing progress was slower than expected. Some things never 
really worked. And big showstoppers happened, just as I feared before I 
began this whole KDE adventure. For example, when KDE4's password dialog 
stopped working. Suddenly I had no access to the KDE wallet [*], could not 
read or write e-mail, or access my shares. I realized how dependent I had 
become of all this. Well, not totally, there are lots of other e-mail 
clients, and I can do most things in a plain text shell, but this meant 
some work, mostly because I had a hard time getting my passwords back.

On the other hand, I like my KDE setup. 8 desktops, each customized to the 
activity I am doing there. Convenient shortcuts to the things I do, to the 
locations I access. Geeky stuff. Nice software, like kontact. I really 
really like this - if it works. When not, I think about dumping all.

Why am I writing all this? I don't know. Kevin, despite me considering 
your thread as mine now, I will open a new one about specific problems.


[*] And a similar thing just happned yesterday. I wanted to go to bed, but 
I had to write an important e-mail first. I started it, and after some 
lines whole kontact froze. I killed it, started again, and the same 
happened. I killed it, wrote an e-mail to myself, which worked. I started 
the mail I had to write again, kontact froze after a little while. I 
killed it, wrote the mail in knotes first, pasted it into the composing 
window, added a CC, pushed the send button... kontact froze. Tried again, 
same result. Then I used thunderbird.
I looked what I had emerged this day, but nothing had to do much with 
kontact. I logged out and in again - and got dozends of notification 
windows telling me that kwalletmanager just crashed. I'm still not sure 
what had happened with kontact, I guess it wanted to access the wallet 
when sending the mail, maybe also when making an automatic backup. 
Whatever. I restored a backup of my .kde4 directory that I had made one 
day ago, still no wallet. But with the next backup, 5 days old, I could 
log in. I finally found out I had to exchange the 
.kde4/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl file, and all was back to normal. 
And I could finally go to bed.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-06-28 Thread Mateusz Mierzwiński
I have KDE4. It work's perfect. Try set Custom-cxxflags to off,
maybe this will help. From my opinion KDE and QT 4 don't like
customized C/CXX Flags, such as fomit-frame-pointer and similar. Try
to set correct USE flags and first of all - add DBUS to default
runlevel if Your Welcome screen don't work - it works for me. You
should also have Hald for X.org configuration. 

BTW. I don't use any desktop mail client - I've chosen GroupOffice
for web client with IMAP support and great tool for my work - safer
because of laptop disk crashes or similar - data is stored external
and it's delivered by OpenVPN with certificate nad data encryption. 

Chromium as major web browser, Subversion integrated with KDE, Wicd
as network configuration daemon. Also Kadu as IM, wine + winamp,
OpenOffice. Not installed Compiz for now, but I have it on my plans. 

Login screen works great, loading is realy fast. Only one problem
with Bluetooth but i think it's device fault - device USB connector
broken. Everyday working with dual-head 2 monitors - KDE 4 detects
when I connect another monitor, soundcard and Xine integration into
phonon works with no glitches. Other tools like SSH/SFTP integrated
into konqueror works great - konqueror itself also perfect!

It's good, it's fast, it's intuitive, it's better desktop software,
it's XXI century desktop environment, not such as Gnome and funny
icons trashroom on desktop.

Why KDE? Because i like it. Don't say that this software SUCKS,
_check_Your_config_. If You have problem try to remove .kde or .kde4
folder in Your home directory and recreate profile.

At Wtorek, 29-06-2010 on 0:50 Alex Schuster wrote:

Kevin O'Gorman writes:

 As the OP, I'd like to know if anybody else has noticed how far OT
this
 thread has gone?
 Somebody please give it a meaningful title, and maybe the right
people
 will notice your thread

But I think the title is just perfect! Well, not really, because,
despite 
my constant ranting and endless KDE4 problems, for which the only
sane and 
obvious solution would of course be to dump this whole crap, I would 
really really hate to do so.

KDE got me addicted. I refused to use it for a long time, and had
some 
crazy enlightenment setup which I was happy with, until it stopped 
working, and I gave KDE 3.something a try. I feared that the
complexity 
would make showstopping bugs happen more often, but on the other hand
it 
is of course nice to have an integrated system, with things like the
same 
file dialog for most applications. And so I got hooked. There were
some 
problems, but most of the time it worked well. But with time I
experienced 
some bitrot.

Then I got a new PC, and gave KDE4.2 a try. Many many bugs, but most
of 
them not really bad ones, but some nice new features instead. Like, 
konqueror still crashing often, but with recovery function. Kmail
crashed 
even less - well, this was not hard. And I thought these little
annoying 
bugs would be fixed soon.

But this bugfixing progress was slower than expected. Some things
never 
really worked. And big showstoppers happened, just as I feared before
I 
began this whole KDE adventure. For example, when KDE4's password
dialog 
stopped working. Suddenly I had no access to the KDE wallet [*],
could not 
read or write e-mail, or access my shares. I realized how dependent I
had 
become of all this. Well, not totally, there are lots of other e-mail

clients, and I can do most things in a plain text shell, but this
meant 
some work, mostly because I had a hard time getting my passwords
back.

On the other hand, I like my KDE setup. 8 desktops, each customized
to the 
activity I am doing there. Convenient shortcuts to the things I do,
to the 
locations I access. Geeky stuff. Nice software, like kontact. I
really 
really like this - if it works. When not, I think about dumping all.

Why am I writing all this? I don't know. Kevin, despite me
considering 
your thread as mine now, I will open a new one about specific
problems.

[*] And a similar thing just happned yesterday. I wanted to go to
bed, but 
I had to write an important e-mail first. I started it, and after
some 
lines whole kontact froze. I killed it, started again, and the same 
happened. I killed it, wrote an e-mail to myself, which worked. I
started 
the mail I had to write again, kontact froze after a little while. I 
killed it, wrote the mail in knotes first, pasted it into the
composing 
window, added a CC, pushed the send button... kontact froze. Tried
again, 
same result. Then I used thunderbird.
I looked what I had emerged this day, but nothing had to do much with

kontact. I logged out and in again - and got dozends of notification 
windows telling me that kwalletmanager just crashed. I'm still not
sure 
what had happened with kontact, I guess it wanted to access the
wallet 
when sending the mail, maybe also when making an automatic backup. 
Whatever. I restored a backup of my .kde4 directory that I had made
one 
day ago, still no wallet. But with 

Re: [gentoo-user] slow x

2010-06-28 Thread waltdnes
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote

 My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a
 page with pictures and text.  If I maximize it, the drawing of the
 page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment.

  Is this for all X apps, or just Firefox.  If it's just text-rendering,
try compiling Firefox with moznopango flag , either in /etc/make.conf
or /etc/package.use.  Note that this may disable non-English fonts.

 I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
 and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.

  Is that 512MB the video card or your system ram?  If it's 512MB system
ram, that's probably your problem right there.  Firefox will strain your
system just by itself.  Firefox is getting too bloated for its own good.
SQL database and spell-check built in... what was the old joke about
Mozilla 0.9... about:kitchen sink.  Firefox is a mediocre operating
system that lacks a lightweight web-browser.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread Crístian Viana
wouldn't it be:

emerge -o package

?

emerge -DuN package _will_ install the package itself.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain
  application without emerging the application itself? And: Will
  I hurt the system that way?
 
  Best regards,
  mcc

 ???

 emerge -DuN application

 ???

 What am I missing in the question?

 Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge
 nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should
 pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself.

 You will not hurt your system doing that command.

 - Mark




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Crístian Viana
cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
 wouldn't it be:
 emerge -o package
 ?

No, I believe that would emerge the package _without_ emerging the
dependencies. If I understood the OP's original question he wanted to
make sure package dependencies were emerged if missing for some
reason. (For instance, he's done an emerge --depclean and it cleaned
out something that he still needs.)

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Crístian Viana
 cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
 wouldn't it be:
 emerge -o package
 ?

 No, I believe that would emerge the package _without_ emerging the
 dependencies. If I understood the OP's original question he wanted to
 make sure package dependencies were emerged if missing for some
 reason. (For instance, he's done an emerge --depclean and it cleaned
 out something that he still needs.)

 Cheers,
 Mark


Oops! My mistake. I was looking at capital O, not lower case o.

Yes, according to the man page your solution would work also.

Cheers,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: kernel configuration problem -- genkernel: no irq handler; manual config: root filesystem could not be mounted r/w

2010-06-28 Thread rocwhite168
Bill Longman bill.longman at gmail.com writes:

 
 Roc, in one of your posts, you listed your grub.conf line and, according
 to the gmane entry, anyway, it looks like it's split across two lines.
 Could it be that simple? Is your grub.conf entry for the kernel command
 on just one line? (Genkernel added the entry so I'm obviously grabbing
 at straws here)
 

The entries in grub.conf are in one line -- they were reformatted when I
replied through gmane.

Thanks!

Roc