Re: [gentoo-user] X Windows setup questions on my new machine
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 08:26:25AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote Also, have you tried just using larger fonts on the console? If you emerge sys-apps/kbd, there should be some fonts in /usr/share/consolefonts. You can use setfont name to test which one you want to use (some of them are bigger fonts). You may also want to try media-fonts/terminus-font (what I use), it claims to have a 16x32 variant which is twice as large as the default console fonts. Thanks for the idea. I'm now using sun12x22. It gives me 160 columns by 54 rows. It's perfectly readable, although the right half of the text console screen is blank most of the time. Oh well, I'll probably be using vsplit in vim a lot more now. After finding a font you like you can set it in /etc/conf.d/consolefont to automatically load at boot time. I used to do that with vga=6 in /etc/lilo.conf and lat1-10 in /etc/conf.d/consolefont which combined to give me a nice crisp 48 row display. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit Gentoo. I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it. What are people's experiences with different VM environments? Google searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis. My CPU... processor : 3 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 37 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2933.000 cache size : 4096 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 4 core id : 2 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 5 initial apicid : 5 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 11 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid bogomips: 5851.93 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
Am 28.06.2010 08:19, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org: I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit Gentoo. I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it. What are people's experiences with different VM environments? Google searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis. My CPU... model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz I use vmware-server and also kvm for VMs. Both work. vmware: I don't really like the web-gui, it sometimes is buggy and unreliable, has ssl-issues and you need a specific firefox-plugin to access the console of the VMs. It brings its own tomcat-server etc., somehow not as minimalistic as we gentoo-users like things ... I also don't like the need to always log into that gui as I am single-user here anyway. Might be some small hack in PAM or so, never researched that. Aside from these issues vmware runs fine, and I like the fact that I am able to connect 2 very similar USB-serial-converters to one VM, something that KVM is not yet able to support AFAIK (I need them for my Suunto heart-rate-monitor and GPS, both cables have the same USB-id ...). This is the main reason why I haven't yet fully migrated my own VMs to ... KVM: It feels (and is) faster. Less overhead. I really appreciate the fact that it is in the kernel, you just enable it once and it is there ... Very little overhead, VMs feel fast and snappy. For gui I use virt-manager on top of libvirt, nice feature to have all your VMs at hand in one small gnome-applet ... (it should be possible to also control vmware-servers with libvirt, but this has been unreliable for me). I like the virtio-drivers for block- and network-devices. Fast and direct. The network-setup for kvm is somewhat more complicated at first, all that bridging and qtap and stuff, vmware does hide that more from you or somehow makes it easier to administer (my experience ... it is very likely that I don't know things ...). - In general both systems work fine, I use vmware out of historical reasons (KVM wasn't there or as ready when I started using VMs) and KVM as it seems to grow up and become a really powerful and open alternative. In fact it is already ... Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
Am 28.06.2010 08:19, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org: I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit Gentoo. I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it. What are people's experiences with different VM environments? Google searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis. My CPU... processor : 3 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 37 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2933.000 cache size : 4096 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 4 core id : 2 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 5 initial apicid : 5 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 11 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm arat tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid bogomips: 5851.93 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: Hi, I'm using app-emulation/virtualbox-bin and it works really great, even forwarding of usb devices, but I only tested WinXP in the box for printing purpose. If you wanna have an open source product, consider app-emulation/virtualbox-ose (open source edition). * app-emulation/virtualbox-ose Available versions: 3.0.12 3.1.8 (~)3.2.4-r1 (~)3.2.6 ** {+additions alsa +hal headless kernel_linux +opengl pulseaudio python +qt4 sdk vboxwebsrv} Best versions/slot: (~)3.2.6 Homepage:http://www.virtualbox.org/ Description: Softwarefamily of powerful x86 virtualization License: GPL-2 * app-emulation/virtualbox-bin Available versions: 3.0.12+i!m 3.1.8+i!m (~)3.2.4-r1+i!m (~)3.2.6+i!m {+additions +chm headless python rdesktop-vrdp sdk vboxwebsrv} Installed versions: Version: 3.2.6+i!m Date:09:34:26 28.06.2010 USE: additions chm python -headless -rdesktop-vrdp -sdk -vboxwebsrv Best versions/slot: (~)3.2.6+i!m Homepage:http://www.virtualbox.org/ Description: Family of powerful x86 virtualization products for enterprise as well as home use License: PUEL Kind regards, der Max
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
On Monday 28 June 2010, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I have a 4-core Intel i3 (/proc/cpuinfo dump below) running 64 bit Gentoo. I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4 on it. What are people's experiences with different VM environments? Google searching turns up a lot of out-of-date blogs/wikis. My CPU... I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it just worked (TM)! It is also incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo). HTH -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:40:53 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: I'm using app-emulation/virtualbox-bin and it works really great, even forwarding of usb devices, but I only tested WinXP in the box for printing purpose. If you wanna have an open source product, consider app-emulation/virtualbox-ose (open source edition). But bear in mind the the OSE has no USB support. -- Neil Bothwick Hello, this is an extension to the famous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?
The emerge of sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 fails as follows: = # emerge -uDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 [3.1.2] USE=-sensord 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 * lm_sensors-3.1.2.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * CPV: sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1 * REPO: gentoo * USE: amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found kernel object directory: * /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/build * Found sources for kernel version: * 2.6.33-gentoo-r2 * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options...[ ok ] Unpacking source... Unpacking lm_sensors-3.1.2.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work Preparing source in /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.2-r1/work/lm_sensors-3.1.2 ... * Applying lm_sensors-3.1.2-sensors-detect-gentoo.patch ...[ ok ] * Applying lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch ... * Failed Patch: lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch ! * ( /usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch ) = This is what the patch.out file says: * lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch * == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p0 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch '/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch' == patching file prog/sensord/rrd.c Hunk #1 FAILED at 138. Hunk #2 FAILED at 150. Hunk #3 FAILED at 161. Hunk #4 FAILED at 187. Hunk #5 FAILED at 200. 5 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file prog/sensord/rrd.c.rej == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p1 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch '/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch' == can't find file to patch at input line 6 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083 |http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835 | |--- prog/sensord/rrd.c |+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c -- No file to patch. Skipping patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored No file to patch. Skipping patch. No file to patch. Skipping patch. No file to patch. Skipping patch. * lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch * == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p0 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch '/usr/portage/sys-ap ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch' == patching file prog/sensord/rrd.c Hunk #1 FAILED at 138. Hunk #2 FAILED at 150. Hunk #3 FAILED at 161. Hunk #4 FAILED at 187. Hunk #5 FAILED at 200. 5 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file prog/sensord/rrd.c.rej == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p1 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch '/usr/portage/sys-ap ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch' == can't find file to patch at input line 6 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083 |http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835 | |--- prog/sensord/rrd.c |+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c -- No file to patch. Skipping patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p2 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch '/usr/portage/sys-ap ps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch' == can't find file to patch at input line 6 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |http://bugs.gentoo.org/325083 |http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5835 | |--- prog/sensord/rrd.c |+++ prog/sensord/rrd.c -- No file to patch. Skipping patch. 5 out of 5 hunks ignored == Shall I delete the patch from /usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/files/lm_sensors-3.1.2-changeset_r5835.patch and resync? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?
The patch was borked. Either bump to latest sys-devel/patch-2.6.1 or resync later. It is fixed now. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel configuration problem -- genkernel: no irq handler; manual config: root filesystem could not be mounted r/w
On 06/25/2010 12:17 PM, rocwhite168 wrote: Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up. VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy. VFS: Cannot open root device sda5 or unknown-block(2,0) Please append ac correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0) Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.31-gentoo-r10 #2 I searched the Internet for a while, but still can't find any solutions. The root partition is definitely sda5, as also specified in the fstab file. One of the things you might consider doing is jumping into the busybox shell and poking around /dev for the names of the devices you have. (I'm assuming you boot with grub - that's what those messages look like to me.) You might be able to insmod all your modules from there, too, and see if you get the devices installed. Roc, in one of your posts, you listed your grub.conf line and, according to the gmane entry, anyway, it looks like it's split across two lines. Could it be that simple? Is your grub.conf entry for the kernel command on just one line? (Genkernel added the entry so I'm obviously grabbing at straws here)
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors patch borked?
On 28 June 2010 15:40, justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: The patch was borked. Either bump to latest sys-devel/patch-2.6.1 or resync later. It is fixed now. Thanks, will have another go. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage tree from git
Am 27.06.2010 17:07, schrieb Peter Humphrey: On Sunday 27 June 2010 12:15:50 Enrico Weigelt wrote: is there yet a way to get the portage tree directly via git ? IMHO this should be more traffic efficient than rsync in the long run (especially when syncing often). I sometimes wonder whether I should file a feature request on rsync, to make it offer a mode in which only directories in which it does something are listed on stdout. I shudder to think of the CPU cycles that are wasted daily on scrolling all those directory names up the screen during an emerge --sync. 21293 of them on this box today, altogether. It has been discussed on gentoo-dev some months ago. Some people were afraid that git would use too many file stats on every operation to be usable (performance-wise). I don't know the outcome of that discussion. Part of it probably took place on IRC. Maybe someone more interested than me can read it up and summarize? Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] XServer hal useflag
Am 26.06.2010 20:32, schrieb Albert Hopkins: On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 20:24 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: [..] I'm a bit confused about the meaning of the hal useflag on the x11-base/xorg-server ebuilds nowadays. When I deactivate it, hot-plugin a mouse does not work and special keys on the keyboard are not detected. When I enable it, everything works but several driver packages (evdev and mouse, probably others) want me to deactivate it. [...] So many softwares that used hal before are or have migrated to something else, such as udev. Xorg has also chosen to do this, and so the newer Xorg servers can use udev instead of hal. There is a udev flag for xorg-server. You can/should use this instead of hal. [...] Thanks for the update! Unfortunately, the first X-Server version with a udev useflag hasn't been stabilized on AMD64, yet. I keyworded it and it worked ... somewhat. I now have other problems but since these are unrelated to hal vs. udev, I open another thread for it. Thanks, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
Hi list! I ran into a massive problem when I tried to update to xorg-server-1.8: When I tried to start it, the x-server didn't come up and wrote this error: (EE) intel(0): No kernel modesetting driver detected. So I activated modesetting by default in the kernel and tried it again. Now I have two distinct problems: 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't like to make a filesystem recovery blindfolded ;) 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown anything suspicious. In the end that means that I'm currently stuck with xorg-server-1.7 and no modesetting. For reference, my system: Dell Latitude D520 Intel GMA 945 (i915 driver) 64bit, libs mostly from stable screen resolution 1400x1050 Thanks in advance, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] emerge all but...
Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-06-28 19:16]: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark Hi Mark, thanks a lot! You helped me! Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?
Hi, I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on Wine (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC, XMMS, Amarok and even songbird just as many others? What's wrong with decoding of audio if I have such feeling running now Winamp? Thanks, Mateusz M.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [10-06-28 19:16]: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark Hi Mark, thanks a lot! You helped me! Best regards, mcc :-) Glad it was easy! Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] slow x
hi all! My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much faster, I didn't recognize any problem. dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's some kind of kernel or USE flag problem. Any of you experienced similap problem? Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or pastebin? I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Thanks for reading... bendeguz
[gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment
It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no longer in portage. I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck: = [snip ...] * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend dev-libs/e_dbus:0 dev-libs/ecore:0 media-libs/edje:0 media-libs/evas:0 net-libs/exchange:0 x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs. (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument]) * * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages. = I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it won't do. :-( What now? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
mailinglist...@gmail.com writes: My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much faster, I didn't recognize any problem. dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's some kind of kernel or USE flag problem. Any of you experienced similap problem? Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or pastebin? I'd prefer it here, but I doubt USE flags matter much. I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Which drivers do you use, ati-drivers / fglrx or xf86-video-ati / radeon? Is the 3D performance okay? Daniel Troeder just wrote in the 'ATI RV710/730' thread: ATI: 3D is very good - a must for gaming, 2D is SLOW! (thou they did something about that with 10.6 - experience differs for users - its said that window management is fast now, but video still has tearing effect [also my exp.]) Latest driver (10.6) work with xorg-server-1.7.x only and kernel module has problems with =2.6.34 (exp. differ). Xorg: 3D is basic and very slow but works (the newer the driver/server the better, development is VERY fast), 2D is a dream (very fast, no tearing with video)! Driver is released with Xorg - so work always with newest Xorg, kernel module is in-kernel - work always with newest kernel :) Driver supports both KMS and user space MS. I only use the ati-drivers, and 2D does not seem slow to me, but I cannot compare with the radeon driver, because the dammn thing never worked for me. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: hi all! My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much faster, I didn't recognize any problem. dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's some kind of kernel or USE flag problem. Any of you experienced similap problem? Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or pastebin? I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Thanks for reading... bendeguz You can paste emerge --info here. You can snip parts that are not relevant if needed. I usually remove mirrors and such. Also post the version of drivers and such as well. Using emerge -pv package names is the best way. Then just give everybody time to give it a look and see if they see anything wrong or something you can try. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 02:38:22PM -0500, Dale wrote: mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: hi all! My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much faster, I didn't recognize any problem. dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's some kind of kernel or USE flag problem. Any of you experienced similap problem? Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or pastebin? I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Thanks for reading... bendeguz You can paste emerge --info here. You can snip parts that are not relevant if needed. I usually remove mirrors and such. Also post the version of drivers and such as well. Using emerge -pv package names is the best way. Then just give everybody time to give it a look and see if they see anything wrong or something you can try. Dale :-) :-) Thank you, so here it goes... @Alex: yes, 3D performance is okay. I know glxgears is not a benchmark, but it shows the same result on ubuntu livecd as on gentoo. I think there is a newer card with similar name, radeon 7500, but this is the old one, ~7 years old, so I can only use the open source radeon driver. @Dale and everybody: eix xf86-video-ati [U] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati Available versions: 6.12.1-r1{tbz2} 6.12.5{tbz2} 6.12.6 (~)6.12.7 (~)6.13.0{tbz2} {debug} Installed versions: 6.12.1-r1{tbz2}(07:33:06 PM 06/19/2010)(-debug) [D] x11-base/xorg-server Available versions: [m]1.6.5-r1{tbz2} [m]1.7.6{tbz2} [m](~)1.7.7 [m](~)1.8.0 [m](~)1.8.1.901{tbz2} [m](~)1.8.1.902 {debug dmx doc hal ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl static-libs tslib +udev xorg} Installed versions: 1.6.5-r1{tbz2}(05:10:15 PM 06/26/2010)(hal nptl xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib) X server 1.7.x and 1.8.x are much worse than this one, so I don't want to upgrade it. [U] media-libs/mesa Available versions: 7.5.2{tbz2} 7.7.1 (~)7.8.2 {debug +gallium kernel_FreeBSD motif (+)nptl pic selinux video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga video_cards_none video_cards_nouveau video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage video_cards_sis video_cards_sunffb video_cards_svga video_cards_tdfx video_cards_trident video_cards_via (+)xcb} Installed versions: 7.5.2{tbz2}(04:58:17 PM 06/26/2010)(nptl pic video_cards_radeon xcb -debug -kernel_FreeBSD -motif -video_cards_intel -video_cards_mach64 -video_cards_mga -video_cards_none -video_cards_r128 -video_cards_radeonhd -video_cards_s3virge -video_cards_savage -video_cards_sis -video_cards_sunffb -video_cards_tdfx -video_cards_trident -video_cards_via) [I] x11-wm/fluxbox Available versions: 1.0.0 1.0.0-r2 (~)1.1.0.1 1.1.1-r1{tbz2} (~)1.1.1-r2{tbz2} ** {disableslit disabletoolbar gnome (+)imlib kde -newmousefocus nls +slit +toolbar (+)truetype vim-syntax xinerama} Installed versions: 1.1.1-r2{tbz2}(04:35:58 PM 06/26/2010)(imlib nls slit toolbar truetype -gnome -newmousefocus -vim-syntax -xinerama) I don't know if it is relewant, but maybe it is: [I] x11-libs/cairo Available versions: 1.8.8!t (~)1.8.8-r1!t{tbz2} (~)1.8.10!t{tbz2} {X aqua cleartype debug directfb doc glitz lcdfilter opengl +svg xcb} Installed versions: 1.8.10!t{tbz2}(06:07:36 PM 06/19/2010)(X opengl svg xcb -aqua -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -lcdfilter) [I] x11-libs/pango Available versions: 1.24.5-r1 1.26.2{tbz2} (~)1.28.1{tbz2} {X debug doc +introspection test} Installed versions: 1.28.1{tbz2}(11:44:14 AM 06/17/2010)(X -debug -doc -test) [I] x11-libs/gtk+ Available versions: (1) 1.2.10-r12 (2) 2.16.6 2.18.6 (~)2.18.7 2.18.9{tbz2} (~)2.20.1-r1{tbz2} {aqua cups debug doc +introspection jpeg jpeg2k linguas_az linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi linguas_fr linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_hr linguas_hu linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ko linguas_lt linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_no linguas_pl linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro linguas_ru linguas_sk linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sv linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_vi nls test tiff vim-syntax xinerama} Installed versions: 2.20.1-r1(2){tbz2}(08:06:56 PM 06/16/2010)(jpeg -aqua -cups -debug -doc -jpeg2k -test -tiff -vim-syntax -xinerama) Portage 2.1.8.3 (selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened, gcc-4.3.5, glibc-2.11.1-r0, 2.6.32-hardened-r9 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.32-hardened-r9-i686-AMD_Athlon-TM-_XP_1700+-with-gentoo-2.0.1 Timestamp of tree: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:45:01 + app-shells/bash:
Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment
On Monday 28 June 2010 21:23:52 Mick wrote: It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no longer in portage. I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck: = [snip ...] * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend dev-libs/e_dbus:0 dev-libs/ecore:0 media-libs/edje:0 media-libs/evas:0 net-libs/exchange:0 x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs. (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument]) * * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages. = I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it won't do. :-( vapier's enlightenment overlay is woefully out of date, but even so you have not synced it in a while. That change to dev-vcs/cvs was made ages ago. Besides, e17 has not been in cvs for about 18 months, it's now svn A much better supported overlay is to be found at the e17 site: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo It's actively supported by the e17 gentoo-using devs, ably lead by barberei -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/cvs is needed by Enligthenment
On Monday 28 June 2010 22:12:27 you wrote: On Monday 28 June 2010 21:23:52 Mick wrote: It seems that dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r6 was used by E17, but it is no longer in portage. I was running revdep-rebuild and got stuck: = [snip ...] * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --verbose --pretend dev-libs/e_dbus:0 dev-libs/ecore:0 media-libs/edje:0 media-libs/evas:0 net-libs/exchange:0 x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-util/cvs. (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment- [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17 [argument]) * * revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages. = I now seem to have dev-vcs/cvs-1.12.12-r6 installed, but evidently it won't do. :-( vapier's enlightenment overlay is woefully out of date, but even so you have not synced it in a while. That change to dev-vcs/cvs was made ages ago. Besides, e17 has not been in cvs for about 18 months, it's now svn A much better supported overlay is to be found at the e17 site: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo It's actively supported by the e17 gentoo-using devs, ably lead by barberei Thanks Alan, I have not used Vapier's overlay, but following your earlier suggestions (thank you again) I used efl: http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/packaging/gentoo/Documentation/layman/overlays.xml -f -a efl I was under the impression that I have been updating efl, because I have this in my make.conf: source /var/lib/layman/make.conf Which in turn seems to contain: == PORTDIR_OVERLAY= /var/lib/layman/efl $PORTDIR_OVERLAY == I am a noob with layman and still trying to learn my way around it, so am I missing something simple here? PS. I resync'ed manually and ran revdep-rebuild a couple of times which rebuilt a few packages from enlightenment. Will log into it in a minute, hopefully all will be OK. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Kevin O'Gorman writes: As the OP, I'd like to know if anybody else has noticed how far OT this thread has gone? Somebody please give it a meaningful title, and maybe the right people will notice your thread But I think the title is just perfect! Well, not really, because, despite my constant ranting and endless KDE4 problems, for which the only sane and obvious solution would of course be to dump this whole crap, I would really really hate to do so. KDE got me addicted. I refused to use it for a long time, and had some crazy enlightenment setup which I was happy with, until it stopped working, and I gave KDE 3.something a try. I feared that the complexity would make showstopping bugs happen more often, but on the other hand it is of course nice to have an integrated system, with things like the same file dialog for most applications. And so I got hooked. There were some problems, but most of the time it worked well. But with time I experienced some bitrot. Then I got a new PC, and gave KDE4.2 a try. Many many bugs, but most of them not really bad ones, but some nice new features instead. Like, konqueror still crashing often, but with recovery function. Kmail crashed even less - well, this was not hard. And I thought these little annoying bugs would be fixed soon. But this bugfixing progress was slower than expected. Some things never really worked. And big showstoppers happened, just as I feared before I began this whole KDE adventure. For example, when KDE4's password dialog stopped working. Suddenly I had no access to the KDE wallet [*], could not read or write e-mail, or access my shares. I realized how dependent I had become of all this. Well, not totally, there are lots of other e-mail clients, and I can do most things in a plain text shell, but this meant some work, mostly because I had a hard time getting my passwords back. On the other hand, I like my KDE setup. 8 desktops, each customized to the activity I am doing there. Convenient shortcuts to the things I do, to the locations I access. Geeky stuff. Nice software, like kontact. I really really like this - if it works. When not, I think about dumping all. Why am I writing all this? I don't know. Kevin, despite me considering your thread as mine now, I will open a new one about specific problems. [*] And a similar thing just happned yesterday. I wanted to go to bed, but I had to write an important e-mail first. I started it, and after some lines whole kontact froze. I killed it, started again, and the same happened. I killed it, wrote an e-mail to myself, which worked. I started the mail I had to write again, kontact froze after a little while. I killed it, wrote the mail in knotes first, pasted it into the composing window, added a CC, pushed the send button... kontact froze. Tried again, same result. Then I used thunderbird. I looked what I had emerged this day, but nothing had to do much with kontact. I logged out and in again - and got dozends of notification windows telling me that kwalletmanager just crashed. I'm still not sure what had happened with kontact, I guess it wanted to access the wallet when sending the mail, maybe also when making an automatic backup. Whatever. I restored a backup of my .kde4 directory that I had made one day ago, still no wallet. But with the next backup, 5 days old, I could log in. I finally found out I had to exchange the .kde4/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl file, and all was back to normal. And I could finally go to bed. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
I have KDE4. It work's perfect. Try set Custom-cxxflags to off, maybe this will help. From my opinion KDE and QT 4 don't like customized C/CXX Flags, such as fomit-frame-pointer and similar. Try to set correct USE flags and first of all - add DBUS to default runlevel if Your Welcome screen don't work - it works for me. You should also have Hald for X.org configuration. BTW. I don't use any desktop mail client - I've chosen GroupOffice for web client with IMAP support and great tool for my work - safer because of laptop disk crashes or similar - data is stored external and it's delivered by OpenVPN with certificate nad data encryption. Chromium as major web browser, Subversion integrated with KDE, Wicd as network configuration daemon. Also Kadu as IM, wine + winamp, OpenOffice. Not installed Compiz for now, but I have it on my plans. Login screen works great, loading is realy fast. Only one problem with Bluetooth but i think it's device fault - device USB connector broken. Everyday working with dual-head 2 monitors - KDE 4 detects when I connect another monitor, soundcard and Xine integration into phonon works with no glitches. Other tools like SSH/SFTP integrated into konqueror works great - konqueror itself also perfect! It's good, it's fast, it's intuitive, it's better desktop software, it's XXI century desktop environment, not such as Gnome and funny icons trashroom on desktop. Why KDE? Because i like it. Don't say that this software SUCKS, _check_Your_config_. If You have problem try to remove .kde or .kde4 folder in Your home directory and recreate profile. At Wtorek, 29-06-2010 on 0:50 Alex Schuster wrote: Kevin O'Gorman writes: As the OP, I'd like to know if anybody else has noticed how far OT this thread has gone? Somebody please give it a meaningful title, and maybe the right people will notice your thread But I think the title is just perfect! Well, not really, because, despite my constant ranting and endless KDE4 problems, for which the only sane and obvious solution would of course be to dump this whole crap, I would really really hate to do so. KDE got me addicted. I refused to use it for a long time, and had some crazy enlightenment setup which I was happy with, until it stopped working, and I gave KDE 3.something a try. I feared that the complexity would make showstopping bugs happen more often, but on the other hand it is of course nice to have an integrated system, with things like the same file dialog for most applications. And so I got hooked. There were some problems, but most of the time it worked well. But with time I experienced some bitrot. Then I got a new PC, and gave KDE4.2 a try. Many many bugs, but most of them not really bad ones, but some nice new features instead. Like, konqueror still crashing often, but with recovery function. Kmail crashed even less - well, this was not hard. And I thought these little annoying bugs would be fixed soon. But this bugfixing progress was slower than expected. Some things never really worked. And big showstoppers happened, just as I feared before I began this whole KDE adventure. For example, when KDE4's password dialog stopped working. Suddenly I had no access to the KDE wallet [*], could not read or write e-mail, or access my shares. I realized how dependent I had become of all this. Well, not totally, there are lots of other e-mail clients, and I can do most things in a plain text shell, but this meant some work, mostly because I had a hard time getting my passwords back. On the other hand, I like my KDE setup. 8 desktops, each customized to the activity I am doing there. Convenient shortcuts to the things I do, to the locations I access. Geeky stuff. Nice software, like kontact. I really really like this - if it works. When not, I think about dumping all. Why am I writing all this? I don't know. Kevin, despite me considering your thread as mine now, I will open a new one about specific problems. [*] And a similar thing just happned yesterday. I wanted to go to bed, but I had to write an important e-mail first. I started it, and after some lines whole kontact froze. I killed it, started again, and the same happened. I killed it, wrote an e-mail to myself, which worked. I started the mail I had to write again, kontact froze after a little while. I killed it, wrote the mail in knotes first, pasted it into the composing window, added a CC, pushed the send button... kontact froze. Tried again, same result. Then I used thunderbird. I looked what I had emerged this day, but nothing had to do much with kontact. I logged out and in again - and got dozends of notification windows telling me that kwalletmanager just crashed. I'm still not sure what had happened with kontact, I guess it wanted to access the wallet when sending the mail, maybe also when making an automatic backup. Whatever. I restored a backup of my .kde4 directory that I had made one day ago, still no wallet. But with
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. Is this for all X apps, or just Firefox. If it's just text-rendering, try compiling Firefox with moznopango flag , either in /etc/make.conf or /etc/package.use. Note that this may disable non-English fonts. I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Is that 512MB the video card or your system ram? If it's 512MB system ram, that's probably your problem right there. Firefox will strain your system just by itself. Firefox is getting too bloated for its own good. SQL database and spell-check built in... what was the old joke about Mozilla 0.9... about:kitchen sink. Firefox is a mediocre operating system that lacks a lightweight web-browser. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
wouldn't it be: emerge -o package ? emerge -DuN package _will_ install the package itself. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote: wouldn't it be: emerge -o package ? No, I believe that would emerge the package _without_ emerging the dependencies. If I understood the OP's original question he wanted to make sure package dependencies were emerged if missing for some reason. (For instance, he's done an emerge --depclean and it cleaned out something that he still needs.) Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote: wouldn't it be: emerge -o package ? No, I believe that would emerge the package _without_ emerging the dependencies. If I understood the OP's original question he wanted to make sure package dependencies were emerged if missing for some reason. (For instance, he's done an emerge --depclean and it cleaned out something that he still needs.) Cheers, Mark Oops! My mistake. I was looking at capital O, not lower case o. Yes, according to the man page your solution would work also. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: kernel configuration problem -- genkernel: no irq handler; manual config: root filesystem could not be mounted r/w
Bill Longman bill.longman at gmail.com writes: Roc, in one of your posts, you listed your grub.conf line and, according to the gmane entry, anyway, it looks like it's split across two lines. Could it be that simple? Is your grub.conf entry for the kernel command on just one line? (Genkernel added the entry so I'm obviously grabbing at straws here) The entries in grub.conf are in one line -- they were reformatted when I replied through gmane. Thanks! Roc