Re: [gentoo-user] Changing boot device with 2.6.36
On Monday 03 January 2011 18:43:28 Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi, starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a different device number again. Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how can this brought back to normal operation? - Jörg One way to avoid USB-devices to be picked up before the kernel picks its boot- device is to put the USB-stuff as modules and have them loaded later. I haven't found a way to delay usb-device detection yet. -- Joost
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Hi Stroller, Stroller wrote: On 3/1/2011, at 7:36pm, Jörg Schaible wrote: ... And how does this help the kernel to find the root device where /etc/fstab is located ? The kernel doesn't. You leave that to GRUB. I'm not saying this helps solve your problem, I'm just sayin'. BTW: Yes, I will boot next time with a LABEL entry in the kernels boot option, but I still don't want a kernel that assigns devices in random order. As long as you can boot, you should seriously stop caring. That's it: I cannot! At least not always. If you're concerned about mounting USB sticks or memory cards then use udev rules to distinguish them. Regarding the booting, and having to change what's in your grub.conf, I'd assume this is a one-off change - you'll change grub.conf to point to the new /dev/sdX and that will require no maintenance in the forseeable future. But that's the point: What is X? It is constantly changing with 2.6.36! GRUB can do labels, but it needs an initrd or initramfs, I think. I could not get that working until now ... - Jörg
[gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Hi Paul, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a different device number again. Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how can this brought back to normal operation? Is it possible that your BIOS is changing device order? Do you have USB device set to boot before HDD device? No, HD is first. But I'll recheck. - Jörg
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Hi Alan, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Monday 03 January 2011, Jörg Schaible did opine thusly: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 01/03/2011 07:43 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi, starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a different device number again. Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how can this brought back to normal operation? This has been solved long ago: Label your filesystems and mount them by label. I did this long ago, therefore I can switch between the old and new kernel easily. For example, don't put /dev/sda3 in your fstab, but label that filesystem with a name like root_fs and use /dev/disk/by-label/root_fs in fstab. Ext2/3/4 filesystem can be labeled with the e2label tool. For example: e2label /dev/sda3 root_fs After that, modify your fstab accordingly. And how does this help the kernel to find the root device where /etc/fstab is located ? Does boot=LABEL=boot_device_label in grub config work for you? I hoped so, but actually no. Grub complains at boot time not finding the root device. Is this available in the grub-0.97 series at all? - Jörg
[gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Hi Joost, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday 03 January 2011 18:43:28 Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi, starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a different device number again. Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how can this brought back to normal operation? - Jörg One way to avoid USB-devices to be picked up before the kernel picks its boot- device is to put the USB-stuff as modules and have them loaded later. I haven't found a way to delay usb-device detection yet. If nothing else helps ... :-/ - Jörg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia update problems
On Monday 03 January 2011 14:40:41 walt wrote: I'm wondering if you have some mixture of baselayout versions on that machine from previous updates. Unlikely: this box has been ~amd64 since before it had a complete system. Could your machine be trying to start something other than kdm by mistake? I.e., maybe you are starting kdm for the first time from the VT instead of re-starting it? Also unlikely. I tried taking xdm out of the default run-level and calling both it and xdm-setup in /etc/conf.d/local. It started up ok then. -- just a SWAG :) Eh? Don't know that one. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 01:31:27 Dale wrote: Anybody else ran into this? Am I missing something that is different on a 64 bit rig? I discovered chrony some years ago, which has a sophisticated clock slewing mechanism, and haven't used ntp since. Chrony runs on my gateway machine to maintain a stable time source for the boxes inside, which are a mixture of 32- and 64-bit. I just don't think about timekeeping any more. You might want to give it a try. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
On 4/1/2011, at 9:42am, Jörg Schaible wrote: ... Does boot=LABEL=boot_device_label in grub config work for you? I hoped so, but actually no. Grub complains at boot time not finding the root device. Is this available in the grub-0.97 series at all? I found numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label-grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html However: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Using--%22root%3DLABEL%3D%22-in-grub.conf-p21909347.html http://tinyurl.com/2u4srg4 Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia update problems
On 01/04/2011 02:50 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 03 January 2011 14:40:41 walt wrote: I'm wondering if you have some mixture of baselayout versions on that machine from previous updates. Unlikely: this box has been ~amd64 since before it had a complete system. Could your machine be trying to start something other than kdm by mistake? I.e., maybe you are starting kdm for the first time from the VT instead of re-starting it? Also unlikely. I tried taking xdm out of the default run-level and calling both it and xdm-setup in /etc/conf.d/local. It started up ok then. That experiment still makes me suspect something in /etc is wrong. I'm out of ideas except to search through /etc for files with old dates. -- just a SWAG :) Eh? Don't know that one. Scientific Wild-Ass Guess.
[gentoo-user] Strange behaviour with CD tray
Hi all, With last updates, i encounter some strange behaviour witth my cdrom and cdrw tray. When i open the tray, this one closes quite immediatly, and i can't insert any CD or DVD... It's not very convenient... :-( Where is the problem ? hal ? udev ? gvfs ? When i uninstall gvfs, problem is gone... My gvfs version and flags : 1.6.4-r2 gdu gnome hal http udev -archive -avahi -bash-completion -bluetooth -cdda -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -iphone -samba Any idea ? Thank you very much. Best regards -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVGA mode the console
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 01/03/2011 10:23 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: uvesafb will not give you extra resolutions. It will however allow you to use non-default refresh-rates which is sometimes useful with CRT monitors. But it has a drawback too: it needs a userspace tool and resolution is switched too late during the boot process, meaning until it loads you'll be seeing the kernel boot in 80x25 mode (which in turn means no boot graphics/logo right from the start.) I use uvesafb and I can see Tux (eight of him) during my boot process before uvesafb kicks in. I mean more something like this when I say boot logo: http://mjanusz.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/shot.png It's at least 10 years since I saw that default Tux boot thingy :-P But anyway, if uvesafb hasn't kicked in yet, what on earth is drawing that Tux? Ah-ha, I think that's bootsplash (which I'm not using). I've only seen it on a Live CD. :) In my kernel config I have enabled VESA framebuffer as well as userspace framebuffer (uvesafb), and I enabled Bootup Logo. So maybe what happens is that VESA framebuffer starts immediately into some default resolution, I see eight Tuxs (Tuxes?), then shortly thereafter the uvesafb kicks in and video mode changes to the one I specified. At least that's how it seems to happen. I reboot so rarely that I never gave it much thought.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 09:44:05 Jörg Schaible wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: One way to avoid USB-devices to be picked up before the kernel picks its boot- device is to put the USB-stuff as modules and have them loaded later. I haven't found a way to delay usb-device detection yet. If nothing else helps ... :-/ As someone remarked a few days ago (Alan? Volker?), a sound strategy is to have only components that are essential to booting the machine built into the kernel; all else should be modules. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
[gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
I'm trying to do a new install on an amd64 box and there are a lot of
problems somewhere between X, Gnome, and the Graphics card. I'm using
genkernel so there shouldn't be too much of a problem there.
The graphics card as identified by the system is: nVidia Corporation
NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]
The base system and xorg-x11 seems to be set up alright. However, when
I run startx as a regular user I get errors about drm, dri, and dri2
modules and the screen. I've tried with both nvidia and xorg-x11
selected for opengl and have tried with both VIDEO_CARDS=nouveau and
VIDEO_CARDS=nivida in /etc/make.conf.
# eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia *
[2] xorg-x11
I would expect the trival windows manager to work with startx as soon as
xorg-x11 was installed, but it doesn't.
Emergeing gnome doesn't work. I had to remove GTK from the USE in
make.conf; pygtlsourceview and I think some other things pulled in
didn't like it.
The first package in emerge gnome that gives me problems is the
app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1 package. When emerged by itself I get
the following output.
# emerge -pv app-text/gnome-doc-utils
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N] app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1 USE=-debug 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 0 kB
# emerge app-text/gnome-doc-utils
Calculating dependencies... done!
Verifying ebuild manifests
Emerging (1 of 1) app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1
Failed to emerge app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/temp/build.log'
Jobs: 0 of 1 complete, 1 failed Load avg: 0.45,
0.11, 0.03
* Package:app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1
* Repository: gentoo
* Maintainer: gn...@gentoo.org s...@gentoo.org
* USE: amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU
Unpacking source...
Unpacking gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1.tar.bz2 to
/var/tmp/portage/app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/work
Source unpacked in
/var/tmp/portage/app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/work
Preparing source in
/var/tmp/portage/app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/work/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1
...
* Fixing OMF Makefiles ...
[ ok ]
Source prepared.
Configuring source in
/var/tmp/portage/app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/work/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1
...
* econf: updating gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/config.guess with
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
* econf: updating gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1/config.sub with
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
./configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib64 --disable-scrollkeeper
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gawk... (cached) gawk
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for a Python interpreter with version = 2.4... python
checking for python... /usr/bin/python
checking for python version... 3.1
checking for python platform... linux2
checking for python script directory...
${prefix}/lib64/python3.1/site-packages
checking for python extension module directory...
${exec_prefix}/lib64/python3.1/site-packages
checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-pkg-config... no
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GNOME_DOC_UTILS... yes
checking whether NLS is requested... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ISO C89... none
needed
checking dependency style of x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... none
checking for intltool = 0.35.0... 0.41.1 found
checking for intltool-update... /usr/bin/intltool-update
checking for intltool-merge... /usr/bin/intltool-merge
checking for intltool-extract... /usr/bin/intltool-extract
checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for msgmerge... /usr/bin/msgmerge
checking for msgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/bin/gmsgfmt
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for perl = 5.8.1... 5.12.2
checking for XML::Parser... ok
checking how to run the C preprocessor... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -E
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for
Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:04 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Very last question: Is there any way to test what font looks best without haveing to boot each time ? setfont
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
Am 04.01.2011 02:31, schrieb Dale: Hi, I been watching my clock here for a while. On my old rig, ntp kept the clock set very, very well. This rig seems to have issues. I tried the stable version of ntp and it just seems to keep resetting the time but not adjusting the drift file at all. I even adjusted manually once and my entry was better than the one it made. Maybe the drift of your systemclock is to large. E.g. in (full) virtuell machines i experienced this problem. In such a case ntp only resets the clock regulary (time reset +2.171765 s in /var/log/ntp).[1] I have solved it with adjtimex as i speedup the systemclock a little bit (params: tick and freq). Since ntpd is working as expected again. [2] gave me the hint. Steffen [1] man 8 ntpd (just look for maximum slew rate) [2] http://www.ep.ph.bham.ac.uk/general/support/adjtimex.html
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
On 4 January 2011 11:01, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2011 09:44:05 Jörg Schaible wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: One way to avoid USB-devices to be picked up before the kernel picks its boot- device is to put the USB-stuff as modules and have them loaded later. I haven't found a way to delay usb-device detection yet. If nothing else helps ... :-/ As someone remarked a few days ago (Alan? Volker?), a sound strategy is to have only components that are essential to booting the machine built into the kernel; all else should be modules. There's also the device.map file, but if device names change on the fly each time the machine boots with different things connected to it ... may not be any good for this problem. Perhaps it's time to upgrade to GRUB2 and use labels - because it definitely can use them as well as UUID Nos and can also use scripts which will scan your devices and pick the one you want. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2011 01:31:27 Dale wrote: Anybody else ran into this? Am I missing something that is different on a 64 bit rig? I discovered chrony some years ago, which has a sophisticated clock slewing mechanism, and haven't used ntp since. Chrony runs on my gateway machine to maintain a stable time source for the boxes inside, which are a mixture of 32- and 64-bit. I just don't think about timekeeping any more. You might want to give it a try. I'll give it some thought. I was the same way about ntp on my old rig. I set it up and it just worked. It just doesn't work on this rig. I let the unstable package run a good while and it never did create a drift file. I emerged the stable version and it created a drift file but it is still reseting almost 1 second every ten minutes. On the old rig, once it got the drift file set up with a good value, it only synced a few times a day and set maybe once a day and it was very little. On the new rig, its having to reset every few minutes and still can't get it right. This is weird. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-04 17:28]: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:04 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Very last question: Is there any way to test what font looks best without haveing to boot each time ? setfont Hi all, thank you very much for your help again! Now I have a beautiful console! Long lives Linux! ;) Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
I just upgraded to php-5.3.4 which I believe went into a new slot. Is slotted behavior new for PHP? I think things have been rearranged. Can someone clue me in to the new layout? For example, I get: # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Caching service dependencies ... * apache2 has detected an error in your setup: apache2: Syntax error on line 149 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
On 01/04/11 10:27, Grant wrote: I just upgraded to php-5.3.4 which I believe went into a new slot. Is slotted behavior new for PHP? I think things have been rearranged. Can someone clue me in to the new layout? For example, I get: # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Caching service dependencies ... * apache2 has detected an error in your setup: apache2: Syntax error on line 149 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - Grant I had a similar problem before and I did solve it by running this command: eselect php set apache2 php5.3. I believe I get this command from a Gentoo official PHP guide. Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behaviour with CD tray
Hi again, Some tests about the problem : 1- problem = cdrom and cdrw tray open and close. 2- I run /etc/init.d/dbus restart, then : dbus, consolekit, cupsd and hald restart = the problem is gone. 3- I open Nautilus = problem is back... 4- I uninstall gvfs ; i open Nautilus = problem is gone, but i can't mount the cdrom. 5- I re-install gvfs ; i open Nautilus = problem is back... 6- I run /etc/init.d/dbus restart, then : dbus, consolekit, cupsd and hald restart and i boot the system = problem is back... Any idea ? Cheers, -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Le 04/01/2011 16:20, Jacques Montier a gentiment tapote: Hi all, With last updates, i encounter some strange behaviour witth my cdrom and cdrw tray. When i open the tray, this one closes quite immediatly, and i can't insert any CD or DVD... It's not very convenient... :-( Where is the problem ? hal ? udev ? gvfs ? When i uninstall gvfs, problem is gone... My gvfs version and flags : 1.6.4-r2 gdu gnome hal http udev -archive -avahi -bash-completion -bluetooth -cdda -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -iphone -samba Any idea ? Thank you very much. Best regards -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 18:47:30 Hung Dang wrote: On 01/04/11 10:27, Grant wrote: I just upgraded to php-5.3.4 which I believe went into a new slot. Is slotted behavior new for PHP? I think things have been rearranged. Can someone clue me in to the new layout? For example, I get: # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Caching service dependencies ... * apache2 has detected an error in your setup: apache2: Syntax error on line 149 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - Grant I had a similar problem before and I did solve it by running this command: eselect php set apache2 php5.3. I believe I get this command from a Gentoo official PHP guide. Hung I did this just few weeks ago and had to switch back because my web app (wordpress native, not from gentoo) didn't work. Be sure you need this ! -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
boot=LABEL=boot_device_label in grub config work for you? I hoped so, but actually no. Grub complains at boot time not finding the root device. Is this available in the grub-0.97 series at all? I am not sure about grub 2, but 0.97 knows nothing about filesystem labels (and neither does the kernel itself). Where the syntax above works, it's because the distribution provides an initramfs containing (among other things) a script which looks at the kernel commandline and figures out the correct device node before attempting to mount the root filesystem. The only sensible way to handle the OP's problem is to have everything USB-related (or at least usb-storage) built as a module. Why would you want USB compiled in the kernel, anyway? Even if you were using an USB keyboard, you would not be able to do much if the boot process does not even reach the point where udev starts loading modules... andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
I just upgraded to php-5.3.4 which I believe went into a new slot. Is slotted behavior new for PHP? I think things have been rearranged. Can someone clue me in to the new layout? For example, I get: # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Caching service dependencies ... * apache2 has detected an error in your setup: apache2: Syntax error on line 149 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib64/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - Grant I had a similar problem before and I did solve it by running this command: eselect php set apache2 php5.3. I believe I get this command from a Gentoo official PHP guide. Hung Thank you, that fixed it. I'm getting some errors in squirrelmail but functionality seems to be intact. Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'm hoping that simplifies things a bit. PHP on Gentoo just got more complicated and all I need out of it is squirrelmail. Actually, I wish there was a decent webmail client that didn't depend on PHP at all so I could remove it. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behaviour with CD tray
What happens if you give the command eject
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behaviour with CD tray
Le 04/01/2011 21:00, Thanasis a écrit : What happens if you give the command eject CD tray opens then close. Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behaviour with CD tray
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote: Le 04/01/2011 21:00, Thanasis a écrit : What happens if you give the command eject CD tray opens then close. Jacques This may help; http://gentoo-pr.org/node/27 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319829 -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
Hello. Are you using python 3 as your main python interpreter? Try: #emerge -av python:2.6 #eselect python lists #eselect python set N where N is the number of python 2 in the previos command. I can't help with the video card problem. Sorry about my poor English. Bye.
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
Yes, it looks like I'm using python 3. I change it to python2.6 and it looks like it's emerge'ing without errors. This should be mentioned in the install documentation. Now do I need to rebuild everything else, emerge --empty-tree, now that I switched python interpreters? # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python3.1 * Thanks, --dhk On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Matías Marquez wrote: Hello. Are you using python 3 as your main python interpreter? Try: #emerge -av python:2.6 #eselect python lists #eselect python set N where N is the number of python 2 in the previos command. I can't help with the video card problem. Sorry about my poor English. Bye.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:18 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Stroller did opine thusly: On 4/1/2011, at 9:42am, Jörg Schaible wrote: ... Does boot=LABEL=boot_device_label in grub config work for you? I hoped so, but actually no. Grub complains at boot time not finding the root device. Is this available in the grub-0.97 series at all? I found numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label- grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html However: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Using--%22root%3DLABEL%3D%22-in-grub.conf-p 21909347.html http://tinyurl.com/2u4srg4 Stroller. All the major distros I've seen it on also use initrds though (rare in gentoo- land). I have no idea how it all works, I just know how to type it on a RHEL box. Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned that this syntax relies on an initrd, and I suspect he may be correct. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVGA mode the console
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 01/03/2011 10:23 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: uvesafb will not give you extra resolutions. It will however allow you to use non-default refresh-rates which is sometimes useful with CRT monitors. But it has a drawback too: it needs a userspace tool and resolution is switched too late during the boot process, meaning until it loads you'll be seeing the kernel boot in 80x25 mode (which in turn means no boot graphics/logo right from the start.) I use uvesafb and I can see Tux (eight of him) during my boot process before uvesafb kicks in. I mean more something like this when I say boot logo: http://mjanusz.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/shot.png It's at least 10 years since I saw that default Tux boot thingy :-P But anyway, if uvesafb hasn't kicked in yet, what on earth is drawing that Tux? Ah-ha, I think that's bootsplash (which I'm not using). I've only seen it on a Live CD. :) In my kernel config I have enabled VESA framebuffer as well as userspace framebuffer (uvesafb), and I enabled Bootup Logo. So maybe what happens is that VESA framebuffer starts immediately into some default resolution, I see eight Tuxs (Tuxes?), then shortly thereafter the uvesafb kicks in and video mode changes to the one I specified. At least that's how it seems to happen. I reboot so rarely that I never gave it much thought. It's the VESA framebuffer that does it, nothing to do with bootsplash. Look at the help text for CONFIG_FB_VESA in menuconfig. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia update problems
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:50 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Monday 03 January 2011 14:40:41 walt wrote: I'm wondering if you have some mixture of baselayout versions on that machine from previous updates. Unlikely: this box has been ~amd64 since before it had a complete system. Could your machine be trying to start something other than kdm by mistake? I.e., maybe you are starting kdm for the first time from the VT instead of re-starting it? Also unlikely. I tried taking xdm out of the default run-level and calling both it and xdm-setup in /etc/conf.d/local. It started up ok then. Do you have rc_parallel=YES in /etc/rc.conf? Try setting it to NO. If stuff then works right, we know your start order is incorrect and I would be suspecting you declined an update in /etc/init.d/ that you should have accepted. Dunno how you would fix that easily apart from re-emerging everything related that creates an init script. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 22:35:08 KIM WHALEN wrote: Yes, it looks like I'm using python 3. I change it to python2.6 and it looks like it's emerge'ing without errors. This should be mentioned in the install documentation. Now do I need to rebuild everything else, emerge --empty-tree, now that I switched python interpreters? # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python3.1 * Thanks, --dhk On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Matías Marquez wrote: Hello. Are you using python 3 as your main python interpreter? Try: #emerge -av python:2.6 #eselect python lists #eselect python set N where N is the number of python 2 in the previos command. I can't help with the video card problem. Sorry about my poor English. Bye. no, you needn't to rebuild everything ! python is just yhe tool to build, it doesn't affect the binaries. -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 21:35:08 KIM WHALEN wrote: Yes, it looks like I'm using python 3. I change it to python2.6 and it looks like it's emerge'ing without errors. This should be mentioned in the install documentation. Now do I need to rebuild everything else, emerge --empty-tree, now that I switched python interpreters? # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python3.1 * There's an enotice when you emerge python-3.x which warns about it being experimental and not to be used as the default. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Problems with X
KIM WHALEN wrote: Yes, it looks like I'm using python 3. I change it to python2.6 and it looks like it's emerge'ing without errors. This should be mentioned in the install documentation. Now do I need to rebuild everything else, emerge --empty-tree, now that I switched python interpreters? # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python3.1 * Thanks, --dhk How did you get python3 enabled? It shouldn't be enabled. This from the build: WARNING! Many Python modules have not been ported yet to Python 3.*. Python 3 has not been activated and Python wrapper is still configured to use Python 2. You can manually activate Python 3.1 using `eselect python set python3.1`. It is recommended to currently have Python wrapper configured to use Python 2. Having Python wrapper configured to use Python 3 is unsupported. The last line is the important part. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:18 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Stroller did opine thusly: I found numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label- grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html However: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Using--%22root%3DLABEL%3D%22-in-grub.conf-p 21909347.html http://tinyurl.com/2u4srg4 Stroller. All the major distros I've seen it on also use initrds though (rare in gentoo- land). I have no idea how it all works, I just know how to type it on a RHEL box. Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned that this syntax relies on an initrd, and I suspect he may be correct. I tried using labels with the old grub a while back and it didn't work. Labels in fstab works fine tho. We may have to wait on the new grub to get finished. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
Dale writes: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:18 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Stroller did opine thusly: I found numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-label- grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html However: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Using--%22root%3DLABEL%3D%22-in-grub.conf-p 21909347.html http://tinyurl.com/2u4srg4 Stroller. All the major distros I've seen it on also use initrds though (rare in gentoo- land). I have no idea how it all works, I just know how to type it on a RHEL box. I am using an initrd, I need it since my root partition is encrypted. It's generated and copied to /boot with 'genkernel --install --luks --lvm all', but you have to have CLEAN=no in /etc/genkernel.conf or genkernel will create its own .config. Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned that this syntax relies on an initrd, and I suspect he may be correct. And Stroller's 3rd link also does this. I tried using labels with the old grub a while back and it didn't work. Labels in fstab works fine tho. We may have to wait on the new grub to get finished I would be surprised if it had this feature. AFAIK grub is already done at this stage, the kernel has taken over. And I guess it does not know about the LABEL= syntax, and has no code to scan all devices for file system labels. With an initramfs, the kernel runs an init script which can do various stuff, like probing all devices for file system labels. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Grant wrote: Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'm hoping that simplifies things a bit. PHP on Gentoo just got more complicated and all I need out of it is squirrelmail. Actually, I wish there was a decent webmail client that didn't depend on PHP at all so I could remove it. - Grant Hi, Personally, I think slot is a very good way for multiple versions of a package to co-exist. You can safely unemerge a specific version of any package by pointing out its exact signature, i.e. | # emerge --unmerge =category/package-version Replace it with your exact PHP package name. Best, -- Yang Nguyen Web log: http://cmpitg.wordpress.com/ Life is a hack
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
Is the clock almost in sync? - if its too far out ntp will silently fail to sync (by design - large scale time steps can be destructive for heavily active databases for instance) Check out the -g option to ntpd in 'man ntpd' or 'tinker panic 0' in ntp.conf Also, has ntp.conf specified a writable frift file in a directory that exists? ntp can be VERY complex when it doesnt just work :) BillK On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 19:31 -0600, Dale wrote: Hi, I been watching my clock here for a while. On my old rig, ntp kept the clock set very, very well. This rig seems to have issues. I tried the stable version of ntp and it just seems to keep resetting the time but not adjusting the drift file at all. I even adjusted manually once and my entry was better than the one it made. I then decided to try the latest unstable ntp to see if maybe it would work better. I emerged ntp, renamed the drift file and started the service. That was several hours ago and it has yet to even create the drift file. It also puts nothing in the log file except that it started and is using ports and the normal stuff. No syncing or anything like the older version. Also, I copied the ntp.conf file over from the old rig. I would think they would work pretty much the same. Same program, same config and hopefully same results. First version tried: net-misc/ntp-4.2.4_p7-r1 Current unstable version: net-misc/ntp-4.2.6_p2-r1 When I looked at the ntp website, it said it should sync much faster than the old one. Basically it is minutes instead of hours. So far this is not the case. Anybody else ran into this? Am I missing something that is different on a 64 bit rig? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] trackpoint *and* trackpad
All, Has anyone gotten both the trackpad and trackpoint on a t400 to work simultaneously? I can't seem to get it to work. Here are the relevant sections of my xorg.conf file. Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard #InputDeviceTrackPoint CorePointer InputDeviceTouchPad CorePointer EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier TrackPoint Driver mouse Option Protocol Option Device /dev/input/mouse1 Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier TouchPad Driver synaptics Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option Protocol auto-dev Option VertEdgeScroll on Option HorizEdgeScroll on Option VertTwoFingerScroll on Option HorizTwoFingerScroll on Option CornerCoasting on #Option MinSpeed 0.40 #Option MaxSpeed 0.65 #Option AccelFactor 0.030 Option LockedDrags on Option LockedDragTimeout 5000 Option UpDownScrolling on Option TapButton1 1 Option TapButton2 2 Option TapButton3 3 Option CircularScrolling on Option CircScrollTrigger 2 #Option CircScrollDelta 0.1 #Option CircScrollTrigger 3 Option SHMConfig on EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Interestingly enough this same configuration seemed to work quite well for a friend of mine who has a T500 or similar model. Anything I'm missing here? Thoughts / help would be appreciated! -james
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
William Kenworthy wrote: Is the clock almost in sync? - if its too far out ntp will silently fail to sync (by design - large scale time steps can be destructive for heavily active databases for instance) Check out the -g option to ntpd in 'man ntpd' or 'tinker panic 0' in ntp.conf Also, has ntp.conf specified a writable frift file in a directory that exists? ntp can be VERY complex when it doesnt just work :) BillK It syncs and adjusts the time. It just doesn't do it like my older rig. My old rig, when I booted it up, ntp would sync and in about a hour or so it would be accurate enough that it would only sync a few times a day. Since I have long uptimes, that worked out well. With this new rig, it syncs about every ten to 15 minutes and adjusts and just keeps doing the same thing. It never sets the drift file to a setting that allows it to go more than ten or fifteen minutes without resetting the clock. This is what is in messages: Jan 4 21:09:26 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.636966 s Jan 4 21:16:25 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:22:53 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 64.6.144.6, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:26:01 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.567349 s Jan 4 21:30:25 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:41:09 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.603411 s Jan 4 21:45:32 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 64.6.144.6, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:51:56 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:54:39 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 64.6.144.6, stratum 2 Jan 4 21:56:17 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.604867 s Jan 4 22:03:13 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 22:07:18 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 64.6.144.6, stratum 2 Jan 4 22:11:56 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.649596 s Jan 4 22:16:47 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.59.168.233, stratum 3 Jan 4 22:20:06 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 22:24:24 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 64.6.144.6, stratum 2 Jan 4 22:28:37 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Jan 4 22:28:46 localhost ntpd[10181]: time reset +0.621297 s Jan 4 22:37:41 localhost ntpd[10181]: synchronized to 67.159.5.90, stratum 2 Now on my old system, it would adjust the drift file and the adjustments would get smaller and smaller. On the new rig, as you can see it stays about the same. I would like it to get to a point where it doesn't have to sync so often. I read on the website where they are needing more servers to help with the load and I don't want to be one of the ones putting a load on it. I downgraded back to a stable ntp and it did generate a drift file after a while. The messages above are from the stable ntp. I think I have it configured correctly but just need to add a option somewhere to make it do better. I'm even wondering if it could be something kernel related. Maybe I forgot to enable something. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] gpg-agent crach on arm
Hi, I installed gnupg 2.0.16-r2 (and r1 previously) on the AC100 which is arm based. When I start gpg-agent i got this error : $ gpg-agent *** longjmp causes uninitialized stack frame ***: gpg-agent terminated Aborted there is a bugfix in ubuntu : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg2/+bug/599862 I haven't find any references for gentoo. If anyone has an idea. Thanks, Maxime.
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
On 01/04/11 14:42, Grant wrote: Thank you, that fixed it. I'm getting some errors in squirrelmail but functionality seems to be intact. Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'm hoping that simplifies things a bit. PHP on Gentoo just got more complicated and all I need out of it is squirrelmail. Actually, I wish there was a decent webmail client that didn't depend on PHP at all so I could remove it. - Grant The slotting is just for major versions, so you probably don't have two installed (you most likely went from 5.3.3 to 5.3.4). But watch out -- after the eselect, you'll need to move your php.ini from e.g. /etc/php/apache2 to /etc/php/apache2-php5.3.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 00:55:49 Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:18 on Tuesday 04 January 2011, Stroller did opine thusly: I found numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/23010-root-la bel- grub-conf.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-01/0026.html However: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Using--%22root%3DLABEL%3D%22-in-grub.co nf-p 21909347.html http://tinyurl.com/2u4srg4 Stroller. All the major distros I've seen it on also use initrds though (rare in gentoo- land). I have no idea how it all works, I just know how to type it on a RHEL box. I am using an initrd, I need it since my root partition is encrypted. It's generated and copied to /boot with 'genkernel --install --luks --lvm all', but you have to have CLEAN=no in /etc/genkernel.conf or genkernel will create its own .config. Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned that this syntax relies on an initrd, and I suspect he may be correct. And Stroller's 3rd link also does this. I tried using labels with the old grub a while back and it didn't work. Labels in fstab works fine tho. We may have to wait on the new grub to get finished I would be surprised if it had this feature. AFAIK grub is already done at this stage, the kernel has taken over. And I guess it does not know about the LABEL= syntax, and has no code to scan all devices for file system labels. With an initramfs, the kernel runs an init script which can do various stuff, like probing all devices for file system labels. I understand that GRUB2 has bash scripting capabilities which can can use the command 'search' to probe devices at boot time and use things like UUID and LABEL. Not sure if an initrd is required. I could be wrong though - I have not had the time to experiment with it yet. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] trackpoint *and* trackpad
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 04:42:53 James wrote: All, Has anyone gotten both the trackpad and trackpoint on a t400 to work simultaneously? I can't seem to get it to work. Here are the relevant sections of my xorg.conf file. Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard #InputDeviceTrackPoint CorePointer InputDeviceTouchPad CorePointer EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier TrackPoint Driver mouse Option Protocol Option Device /dev/input/mouse1 Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier TouchPad Driver synaptics Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option Protocol auto-dev Option VertEdgeScroll on Option HorizEdgeScroll on Option VertTwoFingerScroll on Option HorizTwoFingerScroll on Option CornerCoasting on #Option MinSpeed 0.40 #Option MaxSpeed 0.65 #Option AccelFactor 0.030 Option LockedDrags on Option LockedDragTimeout 5000 Option UpDownScrolling on Option TapButton1 1 Option TapButton2 2 Option TapButton3 3 Option CircularScrolling on Option CircScrollTrigger 2 #Option CircScrollDelta 0.1 #Option CircScrollTrigger 3 Option SHMConfig on EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Interestingly enough this same configuration seemed to work quite well for a friend of mine who has a T500 or similar model. Anything I'm missing here? Thoughts / help would be appreciated! Do things change if you add: Option AllowEmptyInput off in Section ServerLayout? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior
I had a similar problem before and I did solve it by running this command: eselect php set apache2 php5.3. I believe I get this command from a Gentoo official PHP guide. Hung Thank you, that fixed it. I'm getting some errors in squirrelmail but functionality seems to be intact. Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'm hoping that simplifies things a bit. PHP on Gentoo just got more complicated and all I need out of it is squirrelmail. also; eselect php list cli and you may need to eselect php set cli php5.3
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
Try the following and see if it resets time correctly date 0101010101 /etc/init.d/ntpd restart date
Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
on 01/05/2011 09:39 AM Dale wrote the following: Thanasis wrote: date 0101010101 /etc/init.d/ntpd restart date I got this: Jan 1 01:05:16 localhost ntpd[5709]: time correction of 315880203 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. I was pretty sure it would exceed its adjustment but thought it worth a try. At least it complains. lol Dale :-) :-) Have you set -s in its startup options and does directory /var/empty exist? Here is my /etc/conf.d/ntpd : # /etc/conf.d/ntpd: config file for openntpd's ntpd NTPD_HOME=/var/empty # See ntpd(8) man page ... some popular options: # -s Set the time immediately at startup NTPD_OPTS=-s
