Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Raid1 install
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > fdisk does have a partition/drive limit of ~2.2TB, but this drive should > still work with it. The only other option is GPT, but I don't think grub > boots from that yet (unless you use grub2 with patches?) grub in Gentoo includes a GPT patch: /usr/portage/sys-boot/grub/files/grub-0.97-gpt.patch I'm using GPT and grub-0.97-r10 and it works.
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 15:10 -0500, Dale wrote: > Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale wrote: > > > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> > >>> > >> I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can > >> put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left. That is more than enough to > >> compile even OOo with no space problems. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > > This is Gentoo, where all us users are reputed to spend their days > > passing around benchmarks of "emerge -e world", right? > > > > Try it. :) > > > > > > Here you go: > > Estimated update time: 16 hours, 15 minutes. > > I finally got the error out of the way. Oh, > > Packages installed: 1003 > Packages in world:115 > Packages in system: 45 > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Old sony vaio laptop with a 1.2G p3m with 1G ram - helped on occasion by ccache and distcc, and occaisionally hindered by compiling over nfs when I didnt have enough room - they DO work :) BillK bunyip ~ # genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Thu Jun 23 06:37:55 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 merge time: 12 hours, 34 minutes and 37 seconds. Sun Jun 26 06:46:09 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 merge time: 4 hours, 46 minutes and 49 seconds. Tue Jun 28 20:43:20 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 8 hours and 22 seconds. bunyip ~ # genlop -t openoffice * app-office/openoffice Thu Dec 23 08:58:37 2004 >>> app-office/openoffice-1.1.3 merge time: 7 hours, 25 minutes and 19 seconds. Mon Dec 27 12:55:49 2004 >>> app-office/openoffice-1.1.3 merge time: 14 hours, 58 minutes and 35 seconds. Sun Jan 23 05:08:26 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-1.1.4 merge time: 11 hours, 29 minutes and 51 seconds. Sat Apr 16 21:08:20 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-1.1.4-r1 merge time: 8 hours, 54 minutes and 24 seconds. Sun Oct 2 18:04:26 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-1.1.5 merge time: 7 hours, 15 minutes and 14 seconds. Mon Nov 7 21:51:45 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.0 merge time: 14 hours, 2 minutes and 4 seconds. Sat Nov 26 13:38:30 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.0 merge time: 11 hours, 45 minutes and 12 seconds. Tue Dec 27 14:43:36 2005 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 merge time: 6 hours, 59 minutes and 52 seconds. Fri Feb 10 08:50:16 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 merge time: 14 hours, 54 minutes and 32 seconds. Sat Mar 18 11:54:54 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.2 merge time: 1 day, 4 hours, 16 minutes and 42 seconds. Sun May 7 06:19:25 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.2-r2 merge time: 17 hours, 5 minutes and 20 seconds. Fri Jul 7 13:02:01 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.3 merge time: 18 hours, 41 minutes and 41 seconds. Sun Jul 30 16:41:13 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.3 merge time: 1 day, 3 hours, 5 minutes and 23 seconds. Sun Nov 12 09:25:03 2006 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.4 merge time: 17 hours, 51 minutes and 13 seconds. Mon Jan 15 18:17:10 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.1.0 merge time: 9 hours, 57 minutes and 12 seconds. Mon Jan 29 17:16:27 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.1.0 merge time: 7 hours, 9 minutes and 42 seconds. Thu Feb 8 20:44:18 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.1.0 merge time: 4 hours, 26 minutes and 32 seconds. Sun Feb 11 07:00:42 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.1.0 merge time: 10 hours, 14 minutes and 2 seconds. Sat Mar 24 07:46:43 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.1.0-r1 merge time: 9 hours, 16 minutes and 37 seconds. Sat Apr 21 09:11:55 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.2.0 merge time: 9 hours, 54 minutes and 28 seconds. Sun Jun 17 13:17:49 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.2.1 merge time: 20 hours, 27 minutes and 20 seconds. Sun Sep 2 02:57:47 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.2.1 merge time: 15 hours, 18 minutes and 38 seconds. Sat Sep 22 20:58:39 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.0 merge time: 10 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds. Thu Dec 6 13:36:50 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1 merge time: 18 hours, 46 minutes and 21 seconds. Mon Feb 4 05:24:20 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1-r1 merge time: 7 hours, 43 minutes. Thu Feb 14 17:43:52 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1-r1 merge time: 15 hours, 19 minutes and 5 seconds. Tue Apr 8 14:38:39 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.4.0 merge time: 8 hours, 28 minutes and 39 seconds. Thu Apr 24 14:48:21 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.4.0 merge time: 6 hours, 30 minutes and 17 seconds. Fri Jun 20 06:55:22 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.4.1 merge time: 7 hours, 51 minutes and 57 seconds. Thu Sep 11 03:26:56 20
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Adam Carter wrote: Dale, usually you'd check this by running mount without arguments, and looking to see if the options have ro or rw listed; Sorry - didnt read your post correctly. Obviously you already know this. Doesn't hurt to mention things sometimes. There are things I don't know. Shocking huh? lol Just breathe, nice breaths. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 11:54 -0500, Dale wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mick wrote: > > > >> On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick wrote: > >>> > All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to > emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. > > > > >>> Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on > >>> my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the > >>> emerge process. > >>> > > > >> By about +3G may be more! > >> > > I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions... > > > > > > > > This is so far. > > root@fireball / # du -shc /var/tmp/portage/app-office/ > 2.6G/var/tmp/portage/app-office/ > 2.6Gtotal > root@fireball / > > It's not done yet either. My /var is at 94% so I am moving some > http-rep* stuff out of the way. One of these days, I'm just going to > mount it on tmpfs and let it rip. lol > > Dale > > :-) :-) > For systems without enough space I just map some more with nfs (before you start obviously) - yes it is a lot slower, and you need a reliable network with nfs over tcp for best reliability but it works fine. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
> Dale, usually you'd check this by running mount without arguments, and > looking to see if the options have ro or rw listed; Sorry - didnt read your post correctly. Obviously you already know this.
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
>> 1) Is the filesystem mounted read-only? Dale, usually you'd check this by running mount without arguments, and looking to see if the options have ro or rw listed; eg adam@rix ~ $ mount rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) /dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime) none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime) etc
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:37:24PM -0500, Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That usually won't throw a kernel panic. That usually just gives an error. W Never hurts to check tho. You know me and weird things go together. I did find this tho: j_cnode_used: 1869 j_cnode_free: 14515 I was hoping it would be something fixable. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Stupid questions: 1) Is the filesystem mounted read-only? 2) Could the hard drive be in read-only mode? (Used to be there was some flag you could trigger with hdparm to write-protect a hard drive. Never poked that flag myself, I just remember that it was there.) Mounted as this: /dev/sdc1 on /data type reiserfs (rw) This is from hdparm -I: Security: Master password revision code = 65534 supported not enabled not locked not frozen not expired: security count supported: enhanced erase 140min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 140min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT. Capabilities: LBA, IORDY(can be disabled) Queue depth: 32 Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 0 Advanced power management level: disabled Recommended acoustic management value: 254, current value: 0 DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6 udma7 Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns I don't see anything about it being write protected. Anyone see anything wrong with this? I can post the whole thing if needed. With me, there is NO stupid question. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Dale wrote: > > Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file > system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain > why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. > > Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Stupid questions: 1) Is the filesystem mounted read-only? 2) Could the hard drive be in read-only mode? (Used to be there was some flag you could trigger with hdparm to write-protect a hard drive. Never poked that flag myself, I just remember that it was there.) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:37:24PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my > drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are > called? That usually won't throw a kernel panic. That usually just gives an error. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Raid1 install
On 01/-10/37 11:59, James wrote: > Background: > I worked on this last April can gave up on the (livedDVD) > install with too many other things to do, and pissed off at > a lack of usable (current) documentation. > > So, taking a fresh look at the BOTCHED system: > The 2 drives are identical 2TB: Seagate > drives: Model Number: ST32000542AS > > I read about the 4K block problem and could have > easily made a formating mistake(?). > > fdisk /dev/sda (not the best tool to use... > fdisk does have a partition/drive limit of ~2.2TB, but this drive should still work with it. The only other option is GPT, but I don't think grub boots from that yet (unless you use grub2 with patches?) > > Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes > But in my attempt to install, I used this geometry: > fdisk-H 224 -S 56 /dev/sda That should align it to 4k blocks, I had to do the same on my SSD (224/56=4)... > using the livedDVD: > > cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10] > md125 : active raid1 md127p1[0] > 262080 blocks [2/1] [U_] > > md126 : active raid1 md127p2[0] > 5023680 blocks [2/1] [U_] > > md127 : active raid1 sdb[1] sda[0] > 1948227584 blocks [2/2] [UU] > > Are the partitions on each drive *exactly* the same? If the end cylinder and start cylinder for the other drive is off by one it will affect two partitions, leaving them in a dirty state and the third in a clean state. > > It has been suggested kernel >=2.6.37 will have (better?) > support for 4k sectors disks [1]. > I believe I have 2.6.37 on my htpc and it works fine with the 4k-aligned SSD. > Should I just start over? I would start over. Are you using BIOS-raid? (Such as Intel ICH*R?) I assume no, given the 'fd' type partitions. If you are, you are using the wrong approach. It's already in a raid set and you need to create normal partitions on it, not type 'fd'. However, there's a lot of information on how to use mdraid and create native linux software raid partitions. If you are trying to use BIOS raid, it's a little different, and unneeded if you are not using Windows. The reason I mention this is that mdadm gave my BIOS fakeraid /dev/md126* partitions. When I created native linux raid partitions, they were /dev/md0, /dev/md1, etc. I can't really help more until I know exactly what you are trying to do. Right now (to me, anyway) it looks like you are mixing software raid and BIOS fakeraid, as with native mdadm you generally don't have partitions (/dev/md126p1, /dev/md126p2, etc) with native raid (which is /dev/md0, /dev/md1, etc) as I said above. If you are trying to use mdadm with a BIOS fakeraid, then you are correct in that there's no documentation. Just yesterday I finally got a working install after three weeks of messing around. What's the output of `mdadm --detail-platform`? Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? Easy. "emerge --fetchonly" first, then start the real work. But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that counted in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't think it is counted but I'm not sure. That's what I thought, too, but then I simply tried to be sure. Download time _is_ counted. Now we know. If I was on dial-up again, I could sure test that theory. 3KBs/sec would certainly make a difference. :-( Pardon me if I refuse to go back tho. I like youtube to much. I set mine to fetch in the background so most of the time the fetch is done after a couple packages gets compiled. What about parallel emerges? I guess genlop will not take this into account. I would think not. As long as the tarball is downloaded before emerge gets to it to compile. I doubt it would even know how long it took to download either. Back when I was on dial-up, then I would fetch first. I did that because my dial-up was so slow. It would take days to download OOo or a major KDE upgrade. We all remember, Dale. We all remember. Wonko Yea, me to. My puny DSL is a lot faster than dial-up. It's cheaper too. That part is weird. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > And I could play the > ancient spacewars game once again. Star Control? Wing Commander? hmm :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Dale writes: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: >> >>> I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not >>> actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? >>> >> Easy. "emerge --fetchonly" first, then start the real work. > > But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that > counted in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't > think it is counted but I'm not sure. That's what I thought, too, but then I simply tried to be sure. Download time _is_ counted. > I set mine to fetch in the > background so most of the time the fetch is done after a couple packages > gets compiled. What about parallel emerges? I guess genlop will not take this into account. > Back when I was on dial-up, then I would fetch first. I did that > because my dial-up was so slow. It would take days to download OOo or a > major KDE upgrade. We all remember, Dale. We all remember. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
walt writes: > On 07/28/2011 01:14 PM, Dale wrote: >> walt wrote: >>> Ah, that explains the names 'fireball' and 'smoker'? >> >> Smoker is my first machine. It was smokin for its day. Since this >> machine is a LOT faster, I had to come up with something good for it >> too. Fireball is it. I guess lightening will be next. Maybe it >> will be 10 cores at 8Ghz with 128Gbs of ram or some supped up crap >> like that. lol > > Oops, I got it completely wrong, then. Amongst hardware geeks there is > an old (maybe obsolete?) expression "it's time for the smoke-test!" which > means: plug it in and turn it on -- and then note carefully where the > plume of smoke is coming from :) I still have my first PC, a 12-MHz 286. The last time I turned it on, the casing being opened, something exploded and a huge flame burst out between the card slots. Now THAT was a real smoker! After the dust had settled, I clipped the capacitor that was burnt. Turned the thing on, and it was runing just fine. And I could play the ancient spacewars game once again. I wouldn't expect today's hardware to survive this. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
walt wrote: Oops, I got it completely wrong, then. Amongst hardware geeks there is an old (maybe obsolete?) expression "it's time for the smoke-test!" which means: plug it in and turn it on -- and then note carefully where the plume of smoke is coming from :) You're obviously too young to remember those days Nope. Not only do I remember them but I have done that many many times. I used to build pump controllers for my water system here. It had two pumps and some sensors to keep a tank full. If I had just one wire out of place, I get to start over. . . . after the stink goes away of course. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
On 07/28/2011 01:14 PM, Dale wrote: > walt wrote: >> On 07/27/2011 05:23 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> Dale wrote: >>> >> >>> I hit the wrong button. lol >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >> Ah, that explains the names 'fireball' and 'smoker'? >> >> > > Smoker is my first machine. It was smokin for its day. Since this > machine is a LOT faster, I had to come up with something good for it > too. Fireball is it. I guess lightening will be next. Maybe it > will be 10 cores at 8Ghz with 128Gbs of ram or some supped up crap > like that. lol Oops, I got it completely wrong, then. Amongst hardware geeks there is an old (maybe obsolete?) expression "it's time for the smoke-test!" which means: plug it in and turn it on -- and then note carefully where the plume of smoke is coming from :) You're obviously too young to remember those days
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not >>> actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? >>> >> >> Easy. "emerge --fetchonly" first, then start the real work. >> >> > > But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that counted > in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't think it is > counted but I'm not sure. I set mine to fetch in the background so most of > the time the fetch is done after a couple packages gets compiled. > > Back when I was on dial-up, then I would fetch first. I did that because my > dial-up was so slow. It would take days to download OOo or a major KDE > upgrade. I use parallel fetch, so it downloads int he background while it's emerging the first package, but if there's only one package being emerged it has no choice but to wait.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? Easy. "emerge --fetchonly" first, then start the real work. But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that counted in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't think it is counted but I'm not sure. I set mine to fetch in the background so most of the time the fetch is done after a couple packages gets compiled. Back when I was on dial-up, then I would fetch first. I did that because my dial-up was so slow. It would take days to download OOo or a major KDE upgrade. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Peter Humphrey writes: > On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: > >> I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not >> actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? > > Easy. "emerge --fetchonly " first, then start the real work. I have acron job running which does an eix-sync, followed by emerge -DuNf @world. And I also call a little script to check for GLSAs (Gentoo Linux Security Advisories): #!/bin/bash glsas=$( glsa-check -n -t all | grep -v "^This system is affected by the following GLSAs:$" ) glsa-check -n -l $glsas 2> /dev/null Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
walt writes: > Another one showed up on most days wearing mis-matched socks. When asked why > he did this he replied, "Why? Does it matter?" Hey, I'm also wearing mis-matched socks right now :) But of course I always wear a wrist-watch. A digital one. > Well, I still can't answer his question... It sure gives a lot more combinations of clothes. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:48:15 Dale wrote: > I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not > actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? Easy. "emerge --fetchonly " first, then start the real work. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Dale writes: > Alex Schuster wrote: >> Dale writes: >>> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >>> http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png >>> >>> You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. >>> >> That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) >> But even if it were, I guess it wouldn't be too much of a security risk. > > That's good to hear. It looked like you had a pretty short password so > figuring that out wouldn't be to hard I would guess. Five characters seems to be normal for online banking here. Anyway, after three failed attempts, the account is locked. I can unlock it by giving my PIN and a TAN. >>> I'm looking closely. Some things interest me.# >>> >> Which things? > > Some of the widget thingys. What's with the big eyeballs anyway? They watch :) No, there's no other purpose. I have at least one instance of XEyes on my desktop since I found this little application in 1992 when I first started using a Sun workstation. But it is since some months only that I had the idea to have multiple ones. Well, that's the nice thing about plasmids, they stay behind application windows, so the do not get in the way. >>> I'm still learning about KDE4. ;-) >>> >> Me too :) If only things were more stable. I'll wait a little and then >> upgrade to 4.7, and then I'll decide if I stay with it. If not, the question >> would be what to use instead, I would miss so many things. I got KDE- >> addicted. > I like KDE to. I just don't take much time learning all the stuff like > I should. I learnt a lot on the KDE mailing list (which is also a nice one, with helpful people). Especially about this Akonadi stuff that the new KDEPIM is using. > For me, desktop 1: Seamonkey browser > > desktop 2: Seamonkey email > > desktop 3: Konsole with at least two tabs > > desktop 5: Konqueror as root Why this? > desktop 6: Kpat for my card game. > > desktop 7: Konqueror as a user and usually smplayer for watching > videos, music and such. > > desktop 8: Usually just gkrellm. > > desktop 4, 9 and 10 are generally blank. I use them for whatever I am > into at the time. It may be OOo, gtkam, Gimp or any number of other apps. I'm thinking about adding two desktops now. > MemTotal: 16441056 kB > MemFree: 6356592 kB > Buffers: 847064 kB > Cached: 7243384 kB > > According to gkrellm I'm actually using 1.1Gbs at the moment. It's 3G more here. > I got the > local radar thing loaded up and it uses a good bit. We are expecting > some storms here today. Since they are coming from my blind side, I > watch the radar so I don't get wet. lol Is this a plasmoid? This would be a nice one to have. > How do you tell KDE that you want a widget thingy on one desktop and not > all of them? I figured out how to get one that I saw on your screenshot > but it put it on them all. I only want it on one tho. I can't seem to > find the magic button. Like Yohan said :) Though I'd like if plasmoids could also be made sticky, on desktops and/or activities. Maybe they'll implement this, I think this is on the list. Or does 4.7 already have this feature? Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On Thursday, 28 July 2011 13:33:22 walt did opine thusly: > On 07/27/2011 10:19 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, walt wrote: > >> On 07/26/2011 06:07 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> Anyone here knows at what time the Gentoo IRC channels are > >>> usually active? > >>> > >>> In UTC, if possible :) > >>> > >>> (Still can't wrap my head around USA time zone codes) > >> > >> I'd like to commission a survey of, say, MS, google, and > >> Oracle, to see who is wearing a wrist-watch, and who isn't -- > >> and then sort them by job description. > >> > >> I predict that the ones with no wrist-watch are the one who > >> arewell, I'll wait for the survey to be done before I > >> announce my prediction.> > > /me wonders where you are going with this... > > Downhill fast, probably :) Back in the day before cellphones, you > needed to look a clock or wrist-watch to know what time it is. > > Back then I was surrounded by genuine programmer geeks, and I > noticed that none of them wore a wrist-watch. I asked one of the > geeks why he didn't have a watch and he replied "Why would I want > to know what time it is? I can tell what time it is by how fast > the mainframe responds when I hit carriage return." > > Another one showed up on most days wearing mis-matched socks. When > asked why he did this he replied, "Why? Does it matter?" > > Well, I still can't answer his question... I've got a bunch of those of my own :-) Q: Alan, why do you wear those great big motorcycle boots and protective trousers all day in the office, even to meetings? A: It's cold. Q: What are your working hours? A: 12 per day on average. No guarantees on *which* 12 Q: Holy shit, I can't believe you just sent that mail to ALL users. Legal will be all over us now having hissy fits. Have you got a god complex or something A: [beams with genuine pride] why, thank you! I reckon my head is just wired different to most folks -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:33:22 walt wrote: > Another one showed up on most days wearing mis-matched socks. When asked > why he did this he replied, "Why? Does it matter?" Did you ask him who combed his hair shirt? -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Paul Hartman wrote: Here is mine: Wed May 25 10:07:18 2011>>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 34 minutes and 10 seconds. On my Intel Core i7 920 with 12GB of RAM using tmpfs. :) Do those merge times include download time? I wonder... I have wondered that too. The process is sort of started but it's not actually compiling either. I wonder how we could know for sure? I have mine set to parallel fetch. That saves time. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:27:48 Alex Schuster wrote: > I would need many more desktops then. How many do you have? Mostly I have six, but when I'm in a major redevelopment phase of my web site that goes up to eight. > So you also use activities? I don't, and I think they don't suit me as I > already havmy things separated on their desktops, but I do like the idea > and am interested in how this develops. No, I don't use activities. If I did, they'd be file management, e-mail, web, sys-admin, css development, html editing and maybe one or two others. > I like it this way, and cluttering is not a problem for me. So I see. As I said, we all have our own methods. > There are who-has-the-best-KDE-dsktop competitions, and I always wonder > why those people only seem to have a single one, with few applications. > If I was to participate, I would have to compose all my desktops into a > large image, but that would be against the rules. I think life's too short for that kind of indulgence. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:14:09 Dale wrote: I guess lightening will be next. No, no, no. Lightning, please. Quite a different word (the cause of thunder, as against a lifting of the ambient light level). Or maybe that's another "simplification" in the American language. I can't keep up with the rate of degradation these days. True. My spelling is off today. Well, today too. ;-) That's also shorter too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:27:48 Alex Schuster did opine thusly: > Probably not. The image file name is citrusdal.jpg, this is the name > of a small town in South Aftica as Wikipedia tells me. It's a nice town. In season, you can buy the most fantastic oranges there that you ever tasted. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 July 2011 21:14:09 Dale wrote: > I guess lightening will be next. No, no, no. Lightning, please. Quite a different word (the cause of thunder, as against a lifting of the ambient light level). Or maybe that's another "simplification" in the American language. I can't keep up with the rate of degradation these days. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
[gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On 07/27/2011 10:19 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, walt wrote: >> On 07/26/2011 06:07 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> Anyone here knows at what time the Gentoo IRC channels are usually active? >>> >>> In UTC, if possible :) >>> >>> (Still can't wrap my head around USA time zone codes) >> >> I'd like to commission a survey of, say, MS, google, and Oracle, to see who >> is >> wearing a wrist-watch, and who isn't -- and then sort them by job >> description. >> >> I predict that the ones with no wrist-watch are the one who arewell, I'll >> wait for the survey to be done before I announce my prediction. >> > > /me wonders where you are going with this... Downhill fast, probably :) Back in the day before cellphones, you needed to look a clock or wrist-watch to know what time it is. Back then I was surrounded by genuine programmer geeks, and I noticed that none of them wore a wrist-watch. I asked one of the geeks why he didn't have a watch and he replied "Why would I want to know what time it is? I can tell what time it is by how fast the mainframe responds when I hit carriage return." Another one showed up on most days wearing mis-matched socks. When asked why he did this he replied, "Why? Does it matter?" Well, I still can't answer his question...
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 17:18:19 James Wall wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Dale wrote: Here is a update. Let's see what folks think about this situation. I mentioned in another thread that I did a from scratch kernel. It was a .35 version. It seemed to work fine, for a while. When I tell Seamonkey to download to my desktop, it works fine. The minute I tell it to save it to my large 750Gb drive, I get a kernel panic. Keep in mind, there is nothing OS related on that drive. Nothing OS at all. It is videos, CD ISO's and such as that. Here is another thing I just found out. I did download a few videos I wanted to save. They were on my desktop and who likes desktop clutter. So, I dragged them over to the large data drive. I did this by dragging from the desktop to a open Konqueror window. This was not downloading or anything, just a straight move operation. It copied a few Mbs and panic. This had nothing to do with Seamonkey either. This looks like a drive/cable issue, since it only occurs on the one drive. If both drives are SATA, I would try swapping the cables to rule out a bad cable. If the problem stays with the drive I would first try a different SATA port to see if that clears up the issue. I would also check that all the cables are plugged in properly and that there is nothing conductive (like metal) touching the drive where it really shouldn't. Maybe open the case, take the drive out and put it on a big sturdy cardboard box to avoid possible shorts. I did check all the connections. I unplugged all the things drive related, power and data, and everything looked fine. No dust, no corrosion or anything that I could see. I did use a flashlight and a magnifying glass to check. It could still be something I didn't see but I looked. So, did this issue just move from a Seamonkey sort of problem to completely something else? Hm. After the crash, I boot to single user mode. I ran resierfsck --fix-fixable on the drive. Not one error. Did you do that on a mounted drive? I would first try a filesystem check before using that command. I went to single user to run that. It didn't report fixing anything or any other problems. I ran the smart thingy and not one error there either. Did you force the short and long tests to be run and waited for them to be finished? On a large drive, the long test can easily take several hours (without any indication of how far it actually is) I did the long one. It ran while I took a nap. It does take a good while to run. You nailed that one for sure. I just wonder how long a 3Tb drive would take. o_O I'm going to run it again tho. See if it picks up on anything now. Thinking file system is bad in the kernel, well my /home directory is on reiserfs too. It is the one that works. If it were the reiserfs implementation, the issue would be more common. That's what I think too. It's also not the only partition that I use reiserfs on either. I would think they would all have some sort of weirdness if it was that. Then again, things tend to pick on me a LOT. :/ Now, what the heck is this about? Does this make sense to anyone? It does, there is something wrong with that drive. Another thing you could try is to plug that drive into a different machine (I believe you still have your old one?) and see if the same issue occurs there. Also, now would be a good time to have backups of the data on that drive :) I may test that drive in my old rig. I have a SATA card in there. Actually, it was originally in that rig. I did make backups of the stuff I have room for. I just can't back up my video/audio files tho. I'll post if anything changes or I get around to testing the drive in the old rig. My garden and stuff sort of has me running. I picked three 5 gallon buckets of okra yesterday. O_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Peter Humphrey writes: > On Thursday 28 July 2011 19:14:07 Alex Schuster wrote: > >> Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh >> in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start >> NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such. > > Is that Bow Fell (otherwise known as Bowfell) on the horizon, head in > clouds? Probably not. The image file name is citrusdal.jpg, this is the name of a small town in South Aftica as Wikipedia tells me. It's just one of dozends images I got from KDE-Look.org, they change every hour. Same for the 6th desktop, which shows another bunch of images. The others are static. Not that this is useful in any way, in fact it would be smarter to choose backgrounds that would not make my semi-transparent Konsoles a little hard to read, but I wanted a little eye-candy. > Apart from that, how do you manage with so much clutter? Me, I have one > application per desktop, apart from sysadmin which has three Konsoles. And > definitely no desktop icons. Wow, I would need many more desktops then. How many do you have? So you also use activities? I don't, and I think they don't suit me as I already havmy things separated on their desktops, but I do like the idea and am interested in how this develops. I like it this way, and cluttering is not a problem for me. Well, maybe I could put Amarok + my MP3 Dolphin on an exra desktop, leaving more space for movies and images. But then, when I need the space, I simple double-click Amarok's title bar which makes it roll up so only the title bar is visible. And sometimes I maximize Amarok vertically or even to fullscreen. > To each his own, of course. It's interesting to see how the other half live. There are who-has-the-best-KDE-dsktop competitions, and I always wonder why those people only seem to have a single one, with few applications. If I was to participate, I would have to compose all my desktops into a large image, but that would be against the rules. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2011-07-28, Mick wrote: >> >> >>> >>> All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to >>> emerge >>> >> >> Is it any worse that OOo was? >> >> Both took hours, but beyond that, I didn't pay much attention. >> >> > > My build took about 3.3Gbs of drive space. I ran du just about 5 minutes > before it finished so that is pretty close. I would say that 4Gbs should be > enough at least on a setup like mine. You don't want to push your luck to > far. lol > >>> and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. >>> >> >> A few days ago, it took me three tries on one of my machines to get >> libreoffice to build. I think it ran out of disk space the first time, >> though the error messages were rather misleading. >> >> The second time I deleted some stuff from the distfiles dir about half >> way through the build, and it turns out they were still needed later >> in the build). >> >> The third time, it worked. :) >> >> > > On my machine, it took this: > > root@fireball / # genlop -t libreoffice > * app-office/libreoffice > > Thu Jul 28 12:33:11 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 > merge time: 1 hour, 9 minutes and 33 seconds. > > root@fireball / # > > I did stop it with a ctrl Z for about 5 minutes. I was deleting stuff to > give it some more room. This is OOo: > > Tue Jul 5 05:15:01 2011 >>> app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 > merge time: 50 minutes and 27 seconds. > > > That's about a average. Some were binary installs. I can't recall why I > did that now but it was since it only took a minute or so. > > That's the report from this rig. AMD 4 cores running at 3.2Ghz with 16Gbs > of ram. No tmpfs this time. That wouldn't be fair since I had to stop it > for a few minutes. > > Dale Here is mine: Wed May 25 10:07:18 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 34 minutes and 10 seconds. On my Intel Core i7 920 with 12GB of RAM using tmpfs. :) Do those merge times include download time? I wonder...
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 14:38:01 Dale wrote: > How do you tell KDE that you want a widget thingy on one desktop and not all of them? Settings -> workspace behavior -> Virtual Desktops -> Tick "diffrent widgets for each desktop" in earlier kde versions when they were trying to figure out what to do with activities you could have an activity bound to each desktop and have the same effect. Kinda like where activities are going .. but its rather rough rite now .. Compiling 4.7 right now lets hope its better off. -- - Yohan Pereira "A man can do as he will, but not will as he will" - Schopenhauer
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
walt wrote: On 07/27/2011 05:23 PM, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: I hit the wrong button. lol Dale :-) :-) Ah, that explains the names 'fireball' and 'smoker'? Smoker is my first machine. It was smokin for its day. Since this machine is a LOT faster, I had to come up with something good for it too. Fireball is it. I guess lightening will be next. Maybe it will be 10 cores at 8Ghz with 128Gbs of ram or some supped up crap like that. lol Dale is dreaming big. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left. That is more than enough to compile even OOo with no space problems. Thoughts? This is Gentoo, where all us users are reputed to spend their days passing around benchmarks of "emerge -e world", right? Try it. :) Here you go: Estimated update time: 16 hours, 15 minutes. I finally got the error out of the way. Oh, Packages installed: 1003 Packages in world:115 Packages in system: 45 Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-07-28, Mick wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge Is it any worse that OOo was? Both took hours, but beyond that, I didn't pay much attention. My build took about 3.3Gbs of drive space. I ran du just about 5 minutes before it finished so that is pretty close. I would say that 4Gbs should be enough at least on a setup like mine. You don't want to push your luck to far. lol and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. A few days ago, it took me three tries on one of my machines to get libreoffice to build. I think it ran out of disk space the first time, though the error messages were rather misleading. The second time I deleted some stuff from the distfiles dir about half way through the build, and it turns out they were still needed later in the build). The third time, it worked. :) On my machine, it took this: root@fireball / # genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Thu Jul 28 12:33:11 2011 >>> app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 merge time: 1 hour, 9 minutes and 33 seconds. root@fireball / # I did stop it with a ctrl Z for about 5 minutes. I was deleting stuff to give it some more room. This is OOo: Tue Jul 5 05:15:01 2011 >>> app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 merge time: 50 minutes and 27 seconds. That's about a average. Some were binary installs. I can't recall why I did that now but it was since it only took a minute or so. That's the report from this rig. AMD 4 cores running at 3.2Ghz with 16Gbs of ram. No tmpfs this time. That wouldn't be fair since I had to stop it for a few minutes. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 default theme at fresh install
Alan McKinnon: writes: > I only know of 2 e17 users here. I was an Enlightenment user for years, before I finally gave KDE 3.something a try. I ran it under the Gnome environment, but only one of my 3x3 vortual desktops actually showed the Gnome desktop. Which I liked, I did my multimedia stuff there, using Nautilus. Gnome also took care of restoring my saved session. More or less, I already had trouble with thisi in those days, sometimes all my terminals (15-20) opened all on the first desktop. And I always had to shift my Galeon windows to their dedicated positions after login. I installed e17 two weeks ago, and played a little with it when I was unable to log into KDE. But I did not too much configuring (yet). What I missed was the ability to maximize windows vertically and horizontally by pressing the maximize button with the middle or right mouse button, one of th efirst features I liked about e16. I had one problem with a Firefox window, that I was not able to access any more. It kept appearing briefly when I switched to its desktop, and scrolled away instantly. When I had sorted out my KDE problem (this took hours, and I dit nore really solve this, it just worked again after removing some plasmoids), I did not try again. Not sure if I would like to use it as a KDE replacement, but maybe with someconfiguring it would make a great window manager. > Fonts in e17 is something that for me always just worked. Same here. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
On 07/27/2011 05:23 PM, Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > I hit the wrong button. lol > > Dale > > :-) :-) Ah, that explains the names 'fireball' and 'smoker'?
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) But even if it were, I guess it wouldn't be too much of a security risk. That's good to hear. It looked like you had a pretty short password so figuring that out wouldn't be to hard I would guess. Glad you changed things tho. Better to be safe than sorry. :-) I'm looking closely. Some things interest me.# Which things? Some of the widget thingys. What's with the big eyeballs anyway? I'm still learning about KDE4. ;-) Me too :) If only things were more stable. I'll wait a little and then upgrade to 4.7, and then I'll decide if I stay with it. If not, the question would be what to use instead, I would miss so many things. I got KDE- addicted. Wonko I like KDE to. I just don't take much time learning all the stuff like I should. For me, desktop 1: Seamonkey browser desktop 2: Seamonkey email desktop 3: Konsole with at least two tabs desktop 5: Konqueror as root desktop 6: Kpat for my card game. desktop 7: Konqueror as a user and usually smplayer for watching videos, music and such. desktop 8: Usually just gkrellm. desktop 4, 9 and 10 are generally blank. I use them for whatever I am into at the time. It may be OOo, gtkam, Gimp or any number of other apps. MemTotal: 16441056 kB MemFree: 6356592 kB Buffers: 847064 kB Cached: 7243384 kB According to gkrellm I'm actually using 1.1Gbs at the moment. I got the local radar thing loaded up and it uses a good bit. We are expecting some storms here today. Since they are coming from my blind side, I watch the radar so I don't get wet. lol How do you tell KDE that you want a widget thingy on one desktop and not all of them? I figured out how to get one that I saw on your screenshot but it put it on them all. I only want it on one tho. I can't seem to find the magic button. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 default theme at fresh install
On Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:57:28 András Csányi did opine thusly: > Hi All, > > I installed e17 and at the first login everything worked but the > fonts were unreadable. I can't decide they are only to small or the > font type is the problem. I tried to figure out what is the problem > and I found this [1] in the Arch Linux Wiki. I installed both fonts > but nothing happened (I restarted my machine). I tried to copy > these fonts to ~/.e/e/fonts directory but it was unsuccessful. > > I tried to found where can I change the fonts but it's impossible > because really unreadable the whole stuff, however install another > theme is impossible as well. > > [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/E17#Unreadable_fonts > > Does have anybody any suggestion or advise what should I do? You will have better luck at the enlightenment user list: enlightenment-us...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users I only know of 2 e17 users here. e17 is a rapidly changing target, where "rapidly" often means "hourly". You should provide details of how you installed e17 and the efl, if it was via one of the many build scripts floating around, or from an overlay (and which one, there are 3 in common use!) Also which svn version of e17 you installed. Fonts in e17 is something that for me always just worked. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 July 2011 20:06:09 Alex Schuster wrote: > I'll wait a little and then upgrade to 4.7, and then I'll decide if I stay > with it. If not, the question would be what to use instead, I would miss > so many things. Me too. I'm sure you wouldn't like gnome: it has far too much of the Windows arrogance about it (I know what you need better than you do, so just shut up and stop complaining). -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter number 5290
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 July 2011 19:14:07 Alex Schuster wrote: > Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh > in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start > NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such. Is that Bow Fell (otherwise known as Bowfell) on the horizon, head in clouds? Apart from that, how do you manage with so much clutter? Me, I have one application per desktop, apart from sysadmin which has three Konsoles. And definitely no desktop icons. To each his own, of course. It's interesting to see how the other half live. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter number 5290
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Dale writes: > Alex Schuster wrote: > http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png > > You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. That's okay, this is not really my account number, although very close :) But even if it were, I guess it wouldn't be too much of a security risk. > I'm looking closely. Some things interest me.# Which things? > I'm still learning about KDE4. ;-) Me too :) If only things were more stable. I'll wait a little and then upgrade to 4.7, and then I'll decide if I stay with it. If not, the question would be what to use instead, I would miss so many things. I got KDE- addicted. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Alex Schuster wrote: I made some screenshots [*] after I started with an empty .kde4 directory one week ago. They show what is started automatically when I log into KDE, well, except for the last desktop where I fired up a browser for online banking. Desktop 1: Administration stuff. A Konsole with a root shell and a normal shell, and another spare one. Some system info and logging plasmoids. Desktop 2: Multimedia. Amarok, a folder plasmoid with my images. A Dolphin with two tabs showing my music and video files, both tabs have two views. A Konsole window is grouped to the Dolphin window, I use it mainly for downloading videos with my download script, which is a wrapper for youtube- dl but does a little more. BTW, I added it to the 'Open with...' menu in Konqueror, but nowadays I write 'mydl' in this shell and drag the URLs I want to download from the browser right into the shell. Desktop 3: Mail/News/WWW. Kontact, I use the KMail, Akregator and KNode components mainly. And two grouped Chromium windows with some tabs. Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such. Desktop 5: Programming. A big Dolphin grouped to a Konsole with a growing number of tabs. Some folder views for stuff I regularly need. Another Chromium, showing my Wiki, and more tabs when I need them. When I actually do something here, I also have some editor windows open. Desktop 6: Other. Financial stuff, LibreOffice, and other things that don't fit into the other desktops. All in all, I don't think this is really so much. With KDE uptime, more things are running, and I often see no need to close them, because might need them later again. The weird thing is that this has been my attitude for long, and before KDE4, I had no problems with this, even with less then 4G of RAM. I was using swap then, but it did not matter much, a little delay while an application I did not use for a while gets swapped in was okay. But now, when swapping starts, it seems to happen constantly. As if important stuff were swapped out, that would be needed again immediately. With the ati-drivers, this was even worse. When I moved to radeon, it was much better already. Wonko [*] http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/ http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/desktop6.png You might want to remove that one. Look closely at the bank screen. I'm looking closely. Some things interest me. I'm still learning about KDE4. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On 2011-07-28, Mick wrote: > All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to > emerge Is it any worse that OOo was? Both took hours, but beyond that, I didn't pay much attention. > and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. A few days ago, it took me three tries on one of my machines to get libreoffice to build. I think it ran out of disk space the first time, though the error messages were rather misleading. The second time I deleted some stuff from the distfiles dir about half way through the build, and it turns out they were still needed later in the build). The third time, it worked. :) -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! FUN is never having to at say you're SUSHI!! gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Dale writes: > Alex Schuster wrote: > > Dale writes: > >> Alex Schuster wrote: > >>> I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run > >>> KDE here. > >> > >> I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the > >> time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used > >> 8Gbs, you got a lot running or something. o_O > > > > I'm using 4.5G right now according to free -m (using the -/+ > > buffers/cache entry). 550M for a Windows VM, 355M for Kontact, 350M > > for my TV-Browser application, 200M for Firefox, incredible 165M for > > a Chromium instance, 155M plasma-desktop. Oh, there's an emerge -a > > command waiting for me to confirm it should run, 155M. virtuoso-t > > neds 150M, the same goes for Amarok, and kwin is at 140 now. The rest > > is mainly more Chromium and Konqueror processes, X, akonadi_nepomuk, > > apache2, kmymoney, the rest is less then 65M each. > > > > The system even starts swapping from time to time. 6G was not enough, > > things are much better now that I have 8G. With 4, it became unusable > > after 1-2 days of being logged into KDE. > Jeez, I thought I used the kitchen sink here at times. The better > question may be, what don't you have running? LOL I made some screenshots [*] after I started with an empty .kde4 directory one week ago. They show what is started automatically when I log into KDE, well, except for the last desktop where I fired up a browser for online banking. Desktop 1: Administration stuff. A Konsole with a root shell and a normal shell, and another spare one. Some system info and logging plasmoids. Desktop 2: Multimedia. Amarok, a folder plasmoid with my images. A Dolphin with two tabs showing my music and video files, both tabs have two views. A Konsole window is grouped to the Dolphin window, I use it mainly for downloading videos with my download script, which is a wrapper for youtube- dl but does a little more. BTW, I added it to the 'Open with...' menu in Konqueror, but nowadays I write 'mydl' in this shell and drag the URLs I want to download from the browser right into the shell. Desktop 3: Mail/News/WWW. Kontact, I use the KMail, Akregator and KNode components mainly. And two grouped Chromium windows with some tabs. Desktop 4: Remote. I go here when I administrate remote systems, via ssh in a Konsole, RDesktop, or NX. The folder views have shortcuts to start NX/Rdesktop/VPN sessions, or Dophins opening FTP locations and such. Desktop 5: Programming. A big Dolphin grouped to a Konsole with a growing number of tabs. Some folder views for stuff I regularly need. Another Chromium, showing my Wiki, and more tabs when I need them. When I actually do something here, I also have some editor windows open. Desktop 6: Other. Financial stuff, LibreOffice, and other things that don't fit into the other desktops. All in all, I don't think this is really so much. With KDE uptime, more things are running, and I often see no need to close them, because might need them later again. The weird thing is that this has been my attitude for long, and before KDE4, I had no problems with this, even with less then 4G of RAM. I was using swap then, but it did not matter much, a little delay while an application I did not use for a while gets swapped in was okay. But now, when swapping starts, it seems to happen constantly. As if important stuff were swapped out, that would be needed again immediately. With the ati-drivers, this was even worse. When I moved to radeon, it was much better already. Wonko [*] http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2011-07-24/
[gentoo-user] e17 default theme at fresh install
Hi All, I installed e17 and at the first login everything worked but the fonts were unreadable. I can't decide they are only to small or the font type is the problem. I tried to figure out what is the problem and I found this [1] in the Arch Linux Wiki. I installed both fonts but nothing happened (I restarted my machine). I tried to copy these fonts to ~/.e/e/fonts directory but it was unsuccessful. I tried to found where can I change the fonts but it's impossible because really unreadable the whole stuff, however install another theme is impossible as well. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/E17#Unreadable_fonts Does have anybody any suggestion or advise what should I do? Thanks in advance! András -- - - -- Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando) -- http://sayusi.hu -- http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi -- ""Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry!" - Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mick wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process. By about +3G may be more! I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions... This is so far. root@fireball / # du -shc /var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6G/var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6Gtotal root@fireball / It's not done yet either. My /var is at 94% so I am moving some http-rep* stuff out of the way. One of these days, I'm just going to mount it on tmpfs and let it rip. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick wrote: >>> All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to >>> emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. >> Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on >> my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the >> emerge process. > By about +3G may be more! I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions...
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick wrote: > > All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to > > emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. > > Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on > my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the > emerge process. By about +3G may be more! -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick wrote: > All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and > on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process.
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 15:56:57 Paul Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale wrote: > > > Paul Hartman wrote: > > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale wrote: > > >>> I noticed this today: > > >>> > > >>> The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: > > >>> #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) > > >>> # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: > > >>> # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) > > >>> # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. > > >>> # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice > > >>> # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin > > >>> # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt > > >>> > > =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 > > >>> > > >>> Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? > > >> > > >> Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. > > >> > > >> Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time > > >> anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those > > >> patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say > > >> there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the > > >> splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while > > >> back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but > > >> OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. > > >> > > >> I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) > > > > > > OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess > > > Openoffice is a thing of the past now. > > > > > > Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that > on > > > my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting > on > > > him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) > > > > Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. > > Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it > > these days). > > All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge > and > on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. > -- > Regards, > Mick > Yes, but give it a credit. This big monster of code, compiles without a hitch. KFir
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 15:56:57 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale wrote: > > Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale wrote: > >>> I noticed this today: > >>> > >>> The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: > >>> #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) > >>> # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: > >>> # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) > >>> # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. > >>> # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice > >>> # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin > >>> # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt > >>> > =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 > >>> > >>> Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? > >> > >> Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. > >> > >> Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time > >> anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those > >> patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say > >> there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the > >> splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while > >> back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but > >> OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. > >> > >> I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) > > > > OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess > > Openoffice is a thing of the past now. > > > > Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on > > my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on > > him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) > > Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. > Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it > these days). All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
On Thursday 28 July 2011 01:47:12 walt wrote: > On 07/27/2011 08:01 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > If you allow tmpfs to be backed by swap... > > Does that require some extra configuration? Nope. You just define swap and tmpfs in your fstab. Here are my entries: $ grep swap /etc/fstab /dev/sda3 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 0 /dev/sdb3 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 0 /dev/sda7 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 /dev/sdb7 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 $ grep tmpfs /etc/fstab tmpfs /tmp tmpfs noatime,nodev,nosuid,size=8G 0 0 shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid0 0 I haven't changed anything there since upgrading from 4 to 16GB RAM a few months ago. Notice that the tmpfs was then bigger than the installed RAM. It worked just fine. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter number 5290
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
On Thursday 28 July 2011 11:53:04 Daniel Hilst Selli did opine thusly: > I have some old kernel trees here.. But there is no Makefiles for > some of them. I did not remove the Makefiles. There is anyone > having the same problem? Whats happen? > > I emerge -NuD periodically, some times I see my kernel > being updated.. May portage remove my Makefiles?? In real life, portage seldom (if ever) *updates* a kernel src package. Almost all kernel versions, even ones with teeny-weeny -r changes in the version number, are an entirely new package which installs into it's own directory in /usr/src/ So, gentoo-sources-2.6.39-r1 will touch nothing belonging to gentoo-sources-2.6.39 This is in contrast to how most packages work, where -r versions contain gentoo patches or ebuild tweaks but still use exactly the same sources. Perhaps you have unmerged old kernel sources that were previously built. In this case portage will remove the files it put there and leave everything the compiler built. Run this: du -sh /usr/src/* Anything with a size of about 300M has probably had this happen. Intact trees that were built tend to come out at around 700M -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale wrote: >> >>> >>> I noticed this today: >>> >>> The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: >>> #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) >>> # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: >>> # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) >>> # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. >>> # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice >>> # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin >>> # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt >>> =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 >>> >>> Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? >>> >> >> Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. >> >> Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time >> anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those >> patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say >> there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the >> splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while >> back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but >> OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. >> >> I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) >> >> > > OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess > Openoffice is a thing of the past now. > > Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my > bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to > get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it these days).
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Yeap there is a version for windows and it works fine. :)
[gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
I have some old kernel trees here.. But there is no Makefiles for some of them. I did not remove the Makefiles. There is anyone having the same problem? Whats happen? I emerge -NuD periodically, some times I see my kernel being updated.. May portage remove my Makefiles?? -- "Do or do not... there is no try" Yoda Master
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess Openoffice is a thing of the past now. Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Botched Raid1 install
Background: I worked on this last April can gave up on the (livedDVD) install with too many other things to do, and pissed off at a lack of usable (current) documentation. Currently: Meds have kicked in ( peace and joy ) (yea right). So, taking a fresh look at the BOTCHED system: The 2 drives are identical 2TB: Seagate drives: Model Number: ST32000542AS I read about the 4K block problem and could have easily made a formating mistake(?). fdisk /dev/sda (not the best tool to use... Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xab83344a Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 33 262144 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 33 659 5023744 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda3 659 243202 1948227672 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. But from what I read fdisk is not the best choice for reading/formating 2T drives, so Here is what sfdisk says: Disk /dev/sda: 243201 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track Old situation: Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 0+ 32- 33-262144 fd Linux raid autodetect start: (c,h,s) expected (0,32,33) found (0,36,33) end: (c,h,s) expected (32,194,34) found (41,214,48) /dev/sda2 32+658-626- 5023744 fd Linux raid autodetect start: (c,h,s) expected (32,194,35) found (41,214,49) end: (c,h,s) expected (658,48,30) found (842,210,16) /dev/sda3658+ 243201- 242544- 1948227672 fd Linux raid autodetect start: (c,h,s) expected (658,48,31) found (842,210,17) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (169,217,56) But in my attempt to install, I used this geometry: fdisk-H 224 -S 56 /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 311465 cylinders Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xab83344a Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 42 262144 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 42 843 5023744 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda3 843 311466 1948227672 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. using the livedDVD: cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10] md125 : active raid1 md127p1[0] 262080 blocks [2/1] [U_] md126 : active raid1 md127p2[0] 5023680 blocks [2/1] [U_] md127 : active raid1 sdb[1] sda[0] 1948227584 blocks [2/2] [UU] mdadm -E /dev/sda1 /dev/sda1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 8939604f:676aa8df:cb201669:f728008a (local to host livecd) Creation Time : Thu Apr 14 14:10:56 2011 Raid Level : raid1 Used Dev Size : 262080 (255.98 MiB 268.37 MB) Array Size : 262080 (255.98 MiB 268.37 MB) Raid Devices : 2 Total Devices : 1 Preferred Minor : 125 Update Time : Wed Jul 27 17:25:15 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 1 Failed Devices : 1 Spare Devices : 0 Checksum : f7f2bc6f - correct Events : 20 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 0 25900 active sync /dev/md/125_0p1 0 0 25900 active sync /dev/md/125_0p1 1 1 001 faulty removed It has been suggested kernel >=2.6.37 will have (better?) support for 4k sectors disks [1]. SOOO Should I just start over? (If so, what docs do I follow?) Or should I first try to salvage the installation from last april (chroot and install a newer kernel? [1] http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?pid=869
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale wrote: > I noticed this today: > > The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: > #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) > # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: > # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) > # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. > # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice > # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin > # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt >>=app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 > > > Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :)
[gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátal (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice -> app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin -> app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw -> app-text/wpd2odt >=app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:16:35 -0500, Dale wrote: Speaking of tmpfs, I should have re-emerged OOo on tmpfs. It filled up /var and died, just a few minutes before it would have finished. Oh well, I'll make /var bigger next time. Maybe a couple more Gbs. I put that http-replicator on here when I decided to keep my old rig up to date and it just eats up my /var. I guess I could move http* directory tho. ^_^ Filling up /var is bad, putting PORTAGE_TMPDIR somewhere less critical is a good idea. Its own filesystem is best but as you don't use LVM, how about a directory on that 750GB second drive you have. Then if you get kernel panics during emerges, you'll know the drive is at fault :) Now that's a thought. Here is the funny thing. I can copy from the drive just fine. It just doesn't like me writing anything to it. I just can't figure out why it would cause a kernel panic. It's not like the OS is on it or anything. I did take the sides off my rig last night. I reseated all the cables. I'm going to do some testing here in a bit. I been upgrading to KDE 4.7. Yeppie !! Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU
On 07/28/2011 11:51:29 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Helmut Jarausch < > jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > > > On 07/28/2011 11:40:40 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > > My guess is that -msse4.2 imply also -msse1..4.1 > > > Can someone confirm this? > > > > I don't think so. It's part of the war Intel <-> AMD > > > > Helmut. > > > > Can you elaborate more? Sorry, I mixed it up with SSE4a, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE4 Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Helmut Jarausch < jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > On 07/28/2011 11:40:40 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > My guess is that -msse4.2 imply also -msse1..4.1 > > Can someone confirm this? > > I don't think so. It's part of the war Intel <-> AMD > > Helmut. > > Can you elaborate more? Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> > > > > I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I > can > > put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left. That is more than enough to > > compile even OOo with no space problems. > > > > Thoughts? > > This is Gentoo, where all us users are reputed to spend their days > passing around benchmarks of "emerge -e world", right? > > Try it. :) > > > -- > :wq > > I would like to jump and say NO, but looking at myself last night, running emerge -e world in both of my comps ;-) I guess I need to play more with my child. I have 8GB and tempfs on /var/tmp. Libreoffice compiled well, but didn't check the timings. Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU
On 07/28/2011 11:40:40 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > My guess is that -msse4.2 imply also -msse1..4.1 > Can someone confirm this? I don't think so. It's part of the war Intel <-> AMD Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 17:13:21 Kfir Lavi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wilkinson > > >> > > >> Another good trick I've found on the forums is to run: > > >> $ gcc -### -e -v -march=native /usr/include/stdlib.h > > >> > > >> The last line of output will include the various CFLAGS that > > >> -march=native > > >> > > >> picks. In my case (Phenom II 955): > > >> "/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/cc1" "-quiet" > > >> > > >> "/usr/include/stdlib.h" "-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2" *"-march=amdfam10" > > >> "-mcx16" "-msahf" "-mpopcnt"* "--param" "l1-cache-size=64" "--param" > > >> "l1-cache-line-size=64" "--param" "l2-cache-size=512" > "-mtune=amdfam10" > > >> "-quiet" "-dumpbase" "stdlib.h" "-auxbase" "stdlib" "-o" > > >> "/tmp/ccR1PlNZ.s" "--output-pch=/usr/include/stdlib.h.gch" > > >> > > >> I typically use -march=native when I don't need to worry about distcc, > > >> or the options from that output that start with "-m". > > > Just shared this trick in my blog. > > > http://gentoo-what-did-you-say.blogspot.com/2011/07/finding-cpu-flags-using > > -gcc.html I added a link to this thread in the post. > > It seems that on my early i7, the -march=core2 does not have all the -msse* > flags enabled, while native does: > > $ diff -y --suppress-common-lines core2.txt native.txt > -mcx16[disabled]| -mcx16 [enabled] > -mno-sse4 [enabled] | -mno-sse4 [disabled] > -mpopcnt [disabled]| -mpopcnt[enabled] > -msahf[disabled]| -msahf [enabled] > -msse [disabled]| -msse [enabled] > -msse2[disabled]| -msse2 [enabled] > -msse3[disabled]| -msse3 [enabled] > -msse4[disabled]| -msse4 [enabled] > -msse4.1 [disabled]| -msse4.1[enabled] > -msse4.2 [disabled]| -msse4.2[enabled] > -mssse3 [disabled]| -mssse3 [enabled] > -mtune= | -mtune= core2 > > > I wonder if I should just set it to "-march=native -O2 -pipe" and forget > about > it ... native it seems to have more stuff switched on and it would probably > be > a-good-thing® (although my understanding of what each flag does is rather > cursory). > -- > Regards, > Mick > My guess is that -msse4.2 imply also -msse1..4.1 Can someone confirm this? Regards, Kfir
[gentoo-user] Re: logrotate blocks portage?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:56, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Okay, reading up [1] [2], it seems I have to first upgrade logrotate to >= > 3.8.0 > > [1] http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/portage > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374287 > > When I return from my late-lunch, I'll try that. > > Unless I'm not supposed to do that. > YEAH! After adding the required incantations to /etc/portage/package.accepted_keywords, I successfully did `emerge -auv logrotate` Now `emerge -avuND @world` no longer blocks :-) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:16:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > Speaking of tmpfs, I should have re-emerged OOo on tmpfs. It filled up > /var and died, just a few minutes before it would have finished. Oh > well, I'll make /var bigger next time. Maybe a couple more Gbs. I put > that http-replicator on here when I decided to keep my old rig up to > date and it just eats up my /var. I guess I could move http* directory > tho. ^_^ Filling up /var is bad, putting PORTAGE_TMPDIR somewhere less critical is a good idea. Its own filesystem is best but as you don't use LVM, how about a directory on that 750GB second drive you have. Then if you get kernel panics during emerges, you'll know the drive is at fault :) -- Neil Bothwick Beware of cover disks bearing upgrades. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 16:35:13 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds > > > that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of > > > memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. > > > > In this last week someone reported doing actually measurements and > > found that using a tmpfs was actually slower. > > Yes, but that was Dale and nothing works as it should for him :-O I did similar tests as well and came to the conclusion that the speed difference was minimal. Actually favouring the physical drive. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 17:18:19 James Wall wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Dale wrote: > > Here is a update. Let's see what folks think about this situation. I > > mentioned in another thread that I did a from scratch kernel. It was a > > .35 version. It seemed to work fine, for a while. When I tell > > Seamonkey to download to my desktop, it works fine. The minute I tell > > it to save it to my large 750Gb drive, I get a kernel panic. Keep in > > mind, there is nothing OS related on that drive. Nothing OS at all. > > It is videos, CD ISO's and such as that. > > > > Here is another thing I just found out. I did download a few videos I > > wanted to save. They were on my desktop and who likes desktop clutter. > > So, I dragged them over to the large data drive. I did this by > > dragging from the desktop to a open Konqueror window. This was not > > downloading or anything, just a straight move operation. It copied a > > few Mbs and panic. This had nothing to do with Seamonkey either. > > This looks like a drive/cable issue, since it only occurs on the one > drive. If both drives are SATA, I would try swapping the cables to > rule out a bad cable. If the problem stays with the drive I would > first try a different SATA port to see if that clears up the issue. I would also check that all the cables are plugged in properly and that there is nothing conductive (like metal) touching the drive where it really shouldn't. Maybe open the case, take the drive out and put it on a big sturdy cardboard box to avoid possible shorts. > > > So, did this issue just move from a Seamonkey sort of problem to > > completely something else? Hm. After the crash, I boot to single > > user mode. I ran resierfsck --fix-fixable on the drive. Not one > > error. Did you do that on a mounted drive? I would first try a filesystem check before using that command. > > I ran the smart thingy and not one error there either. Did you force the short and long tests to be run and waited for them to be finished? On a large drive, the long test can easily take several hours (without any indication of how far it actually is) > > Thinking file system is bad in the kernel, well my /home directory is > > on reiserfs too. It is the one that works. If it were the reiserfs implementation, the issue would be more common. > > Now, what the heck is this about? Does this make sense to anyone? It does, there is something wrong with that drive. Another thing you could try is to plug that drive into a different machine (I believe you still have your old one?) and see if the same issue occurs there. Also, now would be a good time to have backups of the data on that drive :) -- Joost
