Re: [gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Bill Kenworthy
and
rattus ~ # esearch x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
[ Results for search key : x11-terms/rxvt-unicode ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
  Latest version available: 9.21
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 903 kB
  Homepage:    http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html
  Description: rxvt clone with xft and unicode support
  License: GPL-3
 
rattus ~ #

its less a search than a database lookup like the locate command so its
very fast

rattus ~ # esearch app-portage/esearch
[ Results for search key : app-portage/esearch ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  app-portage/esearch
  Latest version available: 1.3-r2
  Latest version installed: 1.3-r2
  Size of downloaded files: 18 kB
  Homepage:    https://github.com/fuzzyray/esearch
  Description: Replacement for 'emerge --search' with search-index
  License: GPL-2
 
rattus ~ #



On 22/6/19 1:42 am, Mick wrote:
> On Friday, 21 June 2019 18:27:58 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>> Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from
>> an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
>> framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?
>>
>> Example: I have installed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode.  I don't know what it
>> is (no, really! :-P ) and I sure as h*ll don't know the exact version
>> number I have.  I want to visit the upstream website to learn more.
>>
>> I know the following command will mostly do it, but it will
>> occassionally show too much and scroll the relevant result off the
>> screen.  Also, being a search, it is much slower than necessary.
>>
>> emerge --search --quiet n x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
> I use 'eix -l ' to get this sort of information.  I'm sure there are 
> cleverer options to use with eix, so it only prints the database fields you 
> want, but the above has served most of my needs well.  Install app-portage/
> eix, then run eix-update and from then on you can use eix-sync to sync 
> portage 
> and/or overlays with a mirror and search for the package you want.
>
> rxvt-unicode is a terminal emulator, like xterm, konsole, terminology, xfce4-
> terminal , etc. which you use within your xsession, instead of having to 
> switch over to a tty.
>
> There's even a page about it - I can't recall having read before, but it 
> looks 
> quite detailed:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rxvt-unicode
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator
>
> HTH





Re: [gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread throwd

* Ian Zimmerman  [2019-06-21 10:27:58 -0700]:


Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from
an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?


You could use portageq

portageq metadata /usr/portage/ ebuild $(qlist -Iv rxvt-unicode) DESCRIPTION 
HOMEPAGE




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 5:03 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:

## equery uses x11-terms/xterm
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[: I - package is installed with flag ]
[ Colors : set, unset ]
  * Found these USE flags for x11-terms/xterm-337:
  U I
  - - Xaw3d: Add support for the 3d athena widget set
  + + openpty  : Use openpty() in preference to posix_openpt()
  - - toolbar  : Enable the xterm toolbar to be built
  + + truetype : Add support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts
  + + unicode  : Add support for Unicode
  - - xinerama : Add support for querying multi-monitor screen geometry through
 the Xinerama API
~


That's what I expected.


Ah, no, it doesn't. I thought Mick's problem was with the shell.


Ah.

Shrinking the window truncates the visible lines. Restoring the size 
doesn't restore the truncated contents.


Agreed.

This was expected. After all, the output of "cat foo" is not processed 
through readline.


I don't think that readline has anything to do with this.


Maybe I misunderstood the OP's problem?


Ah.


(But then, how can rxvt behave differently?)


I don't know about rxvt per say.

But I thought there was a common library (libterm?) used by a number of 
terminal emulators that actually saved the output to a temporary file. 
That way they could re-display the output if (when) the window size changed.


After emerging and testing rxvt, yes, it will rewrap the line to the new 
window width.  It seems as if it saves the output as discreet lines and 
re-wraps them individually based on the terminal width.  So, the output 
of an ls -l in a 132 character window, causes each line to be re-wrapped 
(as below) when reducing the window width.


This 40 character wide…






…becomes this 30 character wide.

aa
aa
bb
bb
cc
cc
dd
dd



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:38 PM Grant Taylor
 wrote:
>
> On 6/21/19 4:20 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > Nope. Just plain xterm (which I use a lot). BTW: it also works
> > remotely, via ssh. $TERM is "xterm".
>
> What use terms do you have enabled (that impact XTerm)?
>
> Please post the output of equery uses x11-terms/xterm.

## equery uses x11-terms/xterm
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[: I - package is installed with flag ]
[ Colors : set, unset ]
 * Found these USE flags for x11-terms/xterm-337:
 U I
 - - Xaw3d: Add support for the 3d athena widget set
 + + openpty  : Use openpty() in preference to posix_openpt()
 - - toolbar  : Enable the xterm toolbar to be built
 + + truetype : Add support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts
 + + unicode  : Add support for Unicode
 - - xinerama : Add support for querying multi-monitor screen geometry through
the Xinerama API
~


>

>
> I will say that long command lines get re-wrapped.  But that's the shell.
>
> If you do an ls -l, get the output, then resize the window narrower, are
> you saying that the output from ls gets rewrapped?

Ah, no, it doesn't. I thought Mick's problem was with the shell.
>
> What happens if you widen the window to or beyond it's original size?

Shrinking the window truncates the visible lines. Restoring the size
doesn't restore the truncated contents.
This was expected. After all, the output of "cat foo" is not processed
through readline. Maybe I misunderstood the OP's problem? (But then,
how can rxvt behave differently?)
>
>



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 4:20 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:

Nope. Just plain xterm (which I use a lot). BTW: it also works
remotely, via ssh. $TERM is "xterm".


What use terms do you have enabled (that impact XTerm)?

Please post the output of equery uses x11-terms/xterm.


XTerm(337)


I think that's the current version in portage.  I have 346 via an overlay.


No idea, then.


I will say that long command lines get re-wrapped.  But that's the shell.

If you do an ls -l, get the output, then resize the window narrower, are 
you saying that the output from ls gets rewrapped?


What happens if you widen the window to or beyond it's original size?

I would love to know what you have done that is allowing the behavior 
that I /think/ you are describing.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:16 PM Grant Taylor
 wrote:
>
> On 6/21/19 2:04 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > My xterm wraps & resizes just fine (e.g., a long line wraps;
> > on maximizing the window, contents are redrawn and use just one
> > line, if it fits). I don't think I did anything special for this
> > to work.
>
> That surprises me.
>
> Are you automatically running screen or tmux or similar?  They can do this.

Nope. Just plain xterm (which I use a lot). BTW: it also works
remotely, via ssh. $TERM is "xterm".

>
> This is the first time I've heard anyone indicate that XTerm itself did
> this.
>
> What version of XTerm are you running?  What is the output of "xterm
> -version"?
XTerm(337)


>
> > Maybe it's window manager related? I use openbox. My USE variables
> > for xterm are the same as Mick's.
>
> The window manager should not have any effect on what's inside the window.
>
No idea, then.

Jorge



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 3:59 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
No description.  It clearly gets the homepage info from the .ebuild 
file (it doesn't exist anywhere else) so why it cannot also get the 
description is beyond me.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That's what I meant by "trivially worked around" :-)


;-)


BTW, does your prompt mean you are a csh user?  Wow.


No.

Zsh.



[gentoo-user] Re: query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-21 11:41, Grant Taylor wrote:

> > Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE
> > from an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
> > framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?
> 
> Does equery meta not show what you want?

No description.  It clearly gets the homepage info from the .ebuild file
(it doesn't exist anywhere else) so why it cannot also get the
description is beyond me.

> % egrep "(DESCRIPTION|HOMEPATE)" /usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/*.ebuild
> /usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-9.22-r1.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt
>  clone with xft and unicode
> support"
> /usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-9.22-r3.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt
>  clone with xft and unicode
> support"
> /usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt
>  clone with xft and unicode support"

That's what I meant by "trivially worked around" :-)

BTW, does your prompt mean you are a csh user?  Wow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 2:04 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
My xterm wraps & resizes just fine (e.g., a long line wraps; 
on maximizing the window, contents are redrawn and use just one 
line, if it fits). I don't think I did anything special for this 
to work.


That surprises me.

Are you automatically running screen or tmux or similar?  They can do this.

This is the first time I've heard anyone indicate that XTerm itself did 
this.


What version of XTerm are you running?  What is the output of "xterm 
-version"?


Maybe it's window manager related? I use openbox. My USE variables 
for xterm are the same as Mick's.


The window manager should not have any effect on what's inside the window.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Grant Taylor
 wrote:
>
> On 6/21/19 12:03 PM, Mick wrote:

> > However, lines do not wrap around when I resize the xterm window.  :(
>
> I've never seen this work inside of XTerm.
>

> XTerm (and many other consoles) only display the output as it was given
> to them.  They don't change the output when the window changes.  So if
> they are given 80 characters of text on one line and 35 on the next
> line, XTerm (et al.) display those two lines of text, even on a wider
> window.
>
> XTerm is not aware (cognizant of the fact) that the 80 characters and
> the 35 characters are related to each other.
>
> If you resize the window smaller, XTerm drops the characters between the
> new width and the old width that it had.  It no longer has them to
> display when you widen the window back out.
>
My xterm wraps & resizes just fine (e.g., a long line wraps; on
maximizing the window, contents are redrawn and use just one line, if
it fits). I don't think I did anything special for this to work. Maybe
it's window manager related? I use openbox. My USE variables for xterm
are the same as Mick's.

Jorge Almeida



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 12:03 PM, Mick wrote:

I seem to have this enabled, as far as the GUI shows, along with reverse
wraparound


If it's enabled (checked) in XTerm's menu, then the feature is enabled.


not sure what the reverse wraparound does.


"reverse wraparound" is when you backspace off the left side of one line 
and the cursor goes to the far right of the line above.



However, lines do not wrap around when I resize the xterm window.  :(


I've never seen this work inside of XTerm.

I /have/ seen screen (running in XTerm) reflow the text when the window 
is resized.  But that is /screen/ doing it, not XTerm.  And by doing it, 
it's creating new data for XTerm to display.


Well, when I anything, I tried shrinking the window width and when 
it became narrower than my bash prompt then the prompt only started 
wrapping around!


That's the shell reacting to the new terminal window width.  (Much like 
screen above.)



The rest of the content (I had just run the 'ls' command) would not change
from its originally displayed line width.


XTerm (and many other consoles) only display the output as it was given 
to them.  They don't change the output when the window changes.  So if 
they are given 80 characters of text on one line and 35 on the next 
line, XTerm (et al.) display those two lines of text, even on a wider 
window.


XTerm is not aware (cognizant of the fact) that the 80 characters and 
the 35 characters are related to each other.


If you resize the window smaller, XTerm drops the characters between the 
new width and the old width that it had.  It no longer has them to 
display when you widen the window back out.



These are the flags I have installed x11-terms/xterm-337 with:

openpty truetype unicode -Xaw3d -toolbar -xinerama

The same problem applies to other xterm based terminals, on various
installations of mine, but as I mentioned rxvt works as I expect/prefer.  :-/


I am not, and have not, been aware of an XTerm option to reflow the text 
when widening (or narrowing) the window.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
On Friday, 21 June 2019 19:29:36 BST Jorge Almeida wrote:

> In case it is a bash thing:
> Do you have a line
> shopt -s checkwinsize
> in ~/.bashrc ?
> If not, add it and then experiment with a new xterm window
> (maybe rxvt doesn't require it, for some reason...)

Thanks again for persevering Jorge.  I added the above shell option, logout/in 
and tried again on xterm and konsole, but with no change.  :-(

I tried this on two different installations, both running Plasma/KDE and using 
bash as shell.

Fair enough, I'll carry on using urxvt - one more reason to prefer it.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Urs Schütz

On 6/21/19 7:27 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from
an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?

...

Eix is faster for such things. You can format the output as you need it. 
Does the following do what you want?


eix -I --format '\n\n\n\n' rxvt-unicode

urs



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:03 PM Mick  wrote:
>
In case it is a bash thing:
Do you have a line
shopt -s checkwinsize
in ~/.bashrc ?
If not, add it and then experiment with a new xterm window
(maybe rxvt doesn't require it, for some reason...)

Regards,

Jorge



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
Thanks Jorge,

On Friday, 21 June 2019 18:43:56 BST Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 5:32 PM Mick  wrote:
> > On Friday, 21 June 2019 13:57:23 BST Mick wrote:

> > In case what I am asking for is not clear:  How can I make xterm/konsole
> > behave like rxvt-unicode does and redraw the content to fit the changed
> > window width?
> 
> CTRL + middle button -> Enable auto wraparound

I seem to have this enabled, as far as the GUI shows, along with reverse 
wraparound - not sure what the reverse wraparound does.  However, lines do not 
wrap around when I resize the xterm window.  :(


> Maybe you have this option disabled? To enable it by default, edit
> .Xresources and add/edit the line
> *VT100.autoWrap: true

I've added this too, just in case, logout/in and still won't wrap anything.

Well, when I anything, I tried shrinking the window width and when it became 
narrower than my bash prompt then the prompt only started wrapping around!  
The rest of the content (I had just run the 'ls' command) would not change 
from its originally displayed line width.

These are the flags I have installed x11-terms/xterm-337 with:

openpty truetype unicode -Xaw3d -toolbar -xinerama

The same problem applies to other xterm based terminals, on various 
installations of mine, but as I mentioned rxvt works as I expect/prefer.  :-/
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 5:32 PM Mick  wrote:
>
> On Friday, 21 June 2019 13:57:23 BST Mick wrote:
 > window width.
> >
> > In xterm and friends the lines remain at the same original fixed width,
> > whether the window is resized to a wider setting or not.  In other words the
> > line of code does not reflow to adapt to the extra length afforded by a now
> > wider window aperture.
> >
> > Is there some setting I can apply to address this annoying phenomenon?
>
> In case what I am asking for is not clear:  How can I make xterm/konsole
> behave like rxvt-unicode does and redraw the content to fit the changed window
> width?
>
CTRL + middle button -> Enable auto wraparound

Maybe you have this option disabled? To enable it by default, edit
.Xresources and add/edit the line
*VT100.autoWrap: true

Regards

Jorge Almeida



Re: [gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
On Friday, 21 June 2019 18:27:58 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from
> an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
> framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?
> 
> Example: I have installed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode.  I don't know what it
> is (no, really! :-P ) and I sure as h*ll don't know the exact version
> number I have.  I want to visit the upstream website to learn more.
> 
> I know the following command will mostly do it, but it will
> occassionally show too much and scroll the relevant result off the
> screen.  Also, being a search, it is much slower than necessary.
> 
> emerge --search --quiet n x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

I use 'eix -l ' to get this sort of information.  I'm sure there are 
cleverer options to use with eix, so it only prints the database fields you 
want, but the above has served most of my needs well.  Install app-portage/
eix, then run eix-update and from then on you can use eix-sync to sync portage 
and/or overlays with a mirror and search for the package you want.

rxvt-unicode is a terminal emulator, like xterm, konsole, terminology, xfce4-
terminal , etc. which you use within your xsession, instead of having to 
switch over to a tty.

There's even a page about it - I can't recall having read before, but it looks 
quite detailed:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rxvt-unicode
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator

HTH
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 11:27 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE 
from an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the 
framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?


Does equery meta not show what you want?

% equery meta x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
 * x11-terms/rxvt-unicode [gentoo]
Maintainer:  j...@gentoo.org (Jeroen Roovers)
Upstream:Remote-ID:   cpe:/a:rxvt-unicode:rxvt-unicode ID: cpe
Homepage:http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html
Location:/usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
Keywords:9.22-r1:0: alpha amd64 arm hppa ia64 ppc ppc64 sparc x86
Keywords:9.22-r3:0: ~alpha ~amd64 ~amd64-linux ~arm ~arm64 ~hppa 
~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc-macos ~ppc64 ~sparc ~sparc-solaris

~x64-macos ~x86 ~x86-fbsd ~x86-linux ~x86-macos
Keywords::0:
License: GPL-3

There's always something like this too.  ;-)

% egrep "(DESCRIPTION|HOMEPATE)" 
/usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/*.ebuild
/usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-9.22-r1.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt 
clone with xft and unicode support"
/usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-9.22-r3.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt 
clone with xft and unicode support"
/usr/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-.ebuild:DESCRIPTION="rxvt 
clone with xft and unicode support"




x



[gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from
an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the
framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around?

Example: I have installed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode.  I don't know what it
is (no, really! :-P ) and I sure as h*ll don't know the exact version
number I have.  I want to visit the upstream website to learn more.

I know the following command will mostly do it, but it will
occassionally show too much and scroll the relevant result off the
screen.  Also, being a search, it is much slower than necessary.

emerge --search --quiet n x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

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Re: [gentoo-user] line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Grant Taylor

On 6/21/19 6:57 AM, Mick wrote:

Is there some setting I can apply to address this annoying phenomenon?


I'm not aware of such a setting for XTerm.

Note:  My ignorance of such a setting does not preclude it from existing.



[gentoo-user] Re: line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
On Friday, 21 June 2019 13:57:23 BST Mick wrote:
> I'm not sure I use the correct terminology below, but please bear with me
> while I try to describe a long standing problem I'm trying to solve:
> 
> I've been mostly using x11-terms/rxvt-unicode as a terminal emulator in X.
> When resizing its window to a larger width, long lines of code which had
> wrapped over to the next line, are re-adjusted (reflow) to the new line
> length covering the increased width of the resized wider window.  I assume
> this is because the urxvt window content is redrawn in real time.  Not all
> commands allow this.  For example, 'ps axf' neither wraps over nor is
> redrawn, chopping off all content not fitting within the available terminal
> window width.
> 
> In xterm and friends the lines remain at the same original fixed width,
> whether the window is resized to a wider setting or not.  In other words the
> line of code does not reflow to adapt to the extra length afforded by a now
> wider window aperture.
> 
> Is there some setting I can apply to address this annoying phenomenon?

In case what I am asking for is not clear:  How can I make xterm/konsole 
behave like rxvt-unicode does and redraw the content to fit the changed window 
width?

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing new versions of gentoo-sources…

2019-06-21 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday, 21 June 2019 04:08:03 BST Dale wrote:
>
>> The reason I have to add --exclude gentoo-sources to --depclean is so that
>> it won't remove kernels I still have installed and may even be using or
>> keeping as a fall back.
> Depclean won't remove your kernels - only the sources to build them from.
>


Yes but I want to keep the sources.  That's what I meant but it wasn't
clear in the text. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] line wrap over in xterm/konsole

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
I'm not sure I use the correct terminology below, but please bear with me 
while I try to describe a long standing problem I'm trying to solve:

I've been mostly using x11-terms/rxvt-unicode as a terminal emulator in X.  
When resizing its window to a larger width, long lines of code which had 
wrapped over to the next line, are re-adjusted (reflow) to the new line length 
covering the increased width of the resized wider window.  I assume this is 
because the urxvt window content is redrawn in real time.  Not all commands 
allow this.  For example, 'ps axf' neither wraps over nor is redrawn, chopping 
off all content not fitting within the available terminal window width.

In xterm and friends the lines remain at the same original fixed width, 
whether the window is resized to a wider setting or not.  In other words the 
line of code does not reflow to adapt to the extra length afforded by a now 
wider window aperture.

Is there some setting I can apply to address this annoying phenomenon?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Preventing new versions of gentoo-sources…

2019-06-21 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:08:03 -0500
Dale  wrote:

> Daniel Frey wrote:

> > Yep. --select and --noreplace both record the package specified in
> > the world file. The difference is you use --noreplace when the
> > package specified is already installed, this prevents it from being
> > reinstalled (it will record it in the world file without
> > reinstalling the package.)
> >
> > If you know you want to keep it (as in: have --oneshot as a default
> > option) and you use --select, it will record it in the world file
> > and install the package.
 
> That's what I do now tho.  I'm trying to figure out how this is
> different since it ends with the same result.  The reason I have to
> add --exclude gentoo-sources to --depclean is so that it won't remove
> kernels I still have installed and may even be using or keeping as a
> fall back.  I've tried different ways to accomplish this, except for
> the one Neil posted, and any of them has some sort of issue that has
> to be addressed in one way or another. 

Putting the kernel versions you want to keep into @world by slot will
keep them from being depcleaned.  E.g., if depclean wants to get rid of
gentoo-sources-4.19.44 but you want to keep it, use

# emerge --noreplace sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.19.44

Note the colon.

Neil's method is better, as once you implement it you never have to do
anything again.





Re: [gentoo-user] 17.1 profiles and no-multilib layout

2019-06-21 Thread Kai Peter

On 2019-06-21 10:44, Mick wrote:

On Friday, 21 June 2019 08:56:34 BST Kai Peter wrote:

Hi,

I couldn't find an appropriate documentation for this, so it is not
clear to me how a __no-multilib__ layout looks like with 17.1 
profiles.

All for amd64.

With 17.0-no-multilib '/lib' is a symlink to '/lib64'. For
17.1-no-multilib I see 4 possibilities:

1. no change

2. both '/lib' and '/lib64' are directories (don't expect this, but 
it's

possible)

3. 'lib64' is a symlink to '/lib'

4. only one folder '/lib' __OR__ 'lib64' exists

With an eye to lfs I would expect to have one '/lib' only. Did anybody
the switch already and can tell me what happens?

Thanks
Kai


On my amd64 no-multilib system there is of course no /lib32 or 
/usr/lib32.


There are:

$ ls -ld /lib*
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root  4096 Jun  7 13:23 /lib
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 12288 Jun 14 23:42 /lib64

and

$ ls -ld /usr/lib*
drwxr-xr-x  21 root root   4096 Jun 15 00:06 /usr/lib
drwxr-xr-x 104 root root 159744 Jun 19 08:15 /usr/lib64
drwxr-xr-x  18 root root   4096 Jun 14 23:54 /usr/libexec

all of which as you can see are real directories.


Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing new versions of gentoo-sources…

2019-06-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 21 June 2019 04:08:03 BST Dale wrote:

> The reason I have to add --exclude gentoo-sources to --depclean is so that
> it won't remove kernels I still have installed and may even be using or
> keeping as a fall back.

Depclean won't remove your kernels - only the sources to build them from.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 17.1 profiles and no-multilib layout

2019-06-21 Thread Mick
On Friday, 21 June 2019 08:56:34 BST Kai Peter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I couldn't find an appropriate documentation for this, so it is not
> clear to me how a __no-multilib__ layout looks like with 17.1 profiles.
> All for amd64.
> 
> With 17.0-no-multilib '/lib' is a symlink to '/lib64'. For
> 17.1-no-multilib I see 4 possibilities:
> 
> 1. no change
> 
> 2. both '/lib' and '/lib64' are directories (don't expect this, but it's
> possible)
> 
> 3. 'lib64' is a symlink to '/lib'
> 
> 4. only one folder '/lib' __OR__ 'lib64' exists
> 
> With an eye to lfs I would expect to have one '/lib' only. Did anybody
> the switch already and can tell me what happens?
> 
> Thanks
> Kai

On my amd64 no-multilib system there is of course no /lib32 or /usr/lib32.

There are:

$ ls -ld /lib*
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root  4096 Jun  7 13:23 /lib
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 12288 Jun 14 23:42 /lib64

and 

$ ls -ld /usr/lib*
drwxr-xr-x  21 root root   4096 Jun 15 00:06 /usr/lib
drwxr-xr-x 104 root root 159744 Jun 19 08:15 /usr/lib64
drwxr-xr-x  18 root root   4096 Jun 14 23:54 /usr/libexec

all of which as you can see are real directories.
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Mick

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[gentoo-user] 17.1 profiles and no-multilib layout

2019-06-21 Thread Kai Peter

Hi,

I couldn't find an appropriate documentation for this, so it is not 
clear to me how a __no-multilib__ layout looks like with 17.1 profiles. 
All for amd64.


With 17.0-no-multilib '/lib' is a symlink to '/lib64'. For 
17.1-no-multilib I see 4 possibilities:


1. no change

2. both '/lib' and '/lib64' are directories (don't expect this, but it's 
possible)


3. 'lib64' is a symlink to '/lib'

4. only one folder '/lib' __OR__ 'lib64' exists

With an eye to lfs I would expect to have one '/lib' only. Did anybody 
the switch already and can tell me what happens?


Thanks
Kai

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