Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Matt Connell
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.

To present an alternative that I haven't seen mentioned in the thread:
Evolution.  

- Fully featured (calendar, contacts, tasks, memos)
- Oauth2 support
- Exchange Web Services support
- sane defaults
- sqlite database storage (as opposed to Akonadi's mysql)
- active community  mailing list.




Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
> > Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my
> > mail.  
> 
> Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I
> don't want to do that.

But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does it
make?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 20:02:47 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:

> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither
> program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail.

Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I don't want 
to do that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:23:47 +0100, Wols Lists wrote:

> > Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is
> > horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail
> > -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in
> > KMail.
> > 
> > All incoming emails are transferred to my workstation because I like
> > to have everything in one place and one backup.
> > 
> > Maybe I'll stick with KMail a bit longer...  
> 
> Well then, install Claws and try it - just point it at Dovecot. Okay, I 
> use Thunderbird, but there's no reason I have to - I run about 4 
> different instances of TB, all pointing at my Dovecot server, and all 
> mail is visible on all my computers - the server/workstation, my old 
> laptop, my new laptop, my wife's laptop when I borrow it, ...

Similarly, I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:07:52 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

> When I had kmail issues back in the day of early akonadi times (remember
> Alan’s thread about data loss from then?), I tried out mutt and I’ve been
> using it ever since. I configured it to my liking re. list layout, sidebar,
> shortcuts, editing and so on.

I haven't used Mutt in this century. I assume it's still similar in 
appearance.

> I still use KMail these days, quite often too. But it has a few drawbacks
> and annoying little bugs that I encounter regularly, which is one reason for
> staying with mutt. Another is that mutt is much much faster when dealing
> with big directories such as lists. Still, there is no better graphical
> alternative in KDE land. Thunderbird & Co don’t fit in optically, Trojita
> is too limited.

Agreed. A glance at Thunderbird was enough. Never heard of Trojita.

Thanks all for the advice.

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Peter.






Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:53:21AM -0400 schrieb Philip Webb:
> 230729 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years.
> > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it,
> > but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history
> > to mbox format.
> 
> I recommend a look at Mutt, which I've used very happily since  c 1998 ,
> well before Gentoo existed.  I've also always used Mbox, not Maildir.
> Powerful, configurable, but also simple : the UNIX approach.

When I had kmail issues back in the day of early akonadi times (remember 
Alan’s thread about data loss from then?), I tried out mutt and I’ve been 
using it ever since. I configured it to my liking re. list layout, sidebar, 
shortcuts, editing and so on.

I still use KMail these days, quite often too. But it has a few drawbacks 
and annoying little bugs that I encounter regularly, which is one reason for 
staying with mutt. Another is that mutt is much much faster when dealing 
with big directories such as lists. Still, there is no better graphical 
alternative in KDE land. Thunderbird & Co don’t fit in optically, Trojita is 
too limited.

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