Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Friday 19 June 2009 00:08:04 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:45:50 +0100, Mick wrote: Why did they *have* to move it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. They didn't, they moved it from there to /etc/conf.d where all the other rc config files live. I am still confused with the difference between /etc/rc.conf and /etc/conf.d/rc ... Then moved that one out of /etc/conf.d :( Lets not confuse the fellow with our awesome wit :-) Mick, it's a cleanup operation with openrc to get things a bit more sane. Unix let's you put config files any damn place you want them. So it's up to you to put them someplace sane. The recent trend is to use a structure like /etc/thing.conf /etc/thing.d/* The first one is used for global settings that affect the entire package (or system in this case as it's openrc). The second has individual files, one for each logical sub-section. Package managers can then update individual bits independently - trying to do updates to one massive file with sed is a distinctly non-trivial operation. With baselayout-1, the layout was a bit haphazard. baselayout-2 and openrc took the opportunity to tidy all this up. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Friday 19 June 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 19 June 2009 00:08:04 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:45:50 +0100, Mick wrote: Why did they *have* to move it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. They didn't, they moved it from there to /etc/conf.d where all the other rc config files live. I am still confused with the difference between /etc/rc.conf and /etc/conf.d/rc ... Then moved that one out of /etc/conf.d :( Lets not confuse the fellow with our awesome wit :-) Mick, it's a cleanup operation with openrc to get things a bit more sane. Unix let's you put config files any damn place you want them. So it's up to you to put them someplace sane. The recent trend is to use a structure like /etc/thing.conf /etc/thing.d/* The first one is used for global settings that affect the entire package (or system in this case as it's openrc). The second has individual files, one for each logical sub-section. Package managers can then update individual bits independently - trying to do updates to one massive file with sed is a distinctly non-trivial operation. With baselayout-1, the layout was a bit haphazard. baselayout-2 and openrc took the opportunity to tidy all this up. Thank you for the explanation. I am running stable x86 on all my boxen at the moment. I guess I'll have to become accustomed to the new set up soon. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Mark Shields wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com Baselayout 2 isn't used in the hardened gentoo base; it's ~x86 keyword (on x86). That's what I was going by. The handbook still references /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_ch ap7 Why did they *have* to move it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. I am still confused with the difference between /etc/rc.conf and /etc/conf.d/rc ... -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:45:50 +0100, Mick wrote: Why did they *have* to move it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. They didn't, they moved it from there to /etc/conf.d where all the other rc config files live. I am still confused with the difference between /etc/rc.conf and /etc/conf.d/rc ... Then moved that one out of /etc/conf.d :( -- Neil Bothwick Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Where do we list modules we want loaded at boot? When I run modprobe fuse WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't actually appear to have any modules listed but does list a herd of aliases for modules. Looking under /etc/modprobe.d aliases.conf blacklist.conf i386.conf pnp-aliases.conf All of which appear to hold the same or more lists of aliases. So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Where do we list modules we want loaded at boot? When I run modprobe fuse WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't actually appear to have any modules listed but does list a herd of aliases for modules. Looking under /etc/modprobe.d aliases.conf blacklist.conf i386.conf pnp-aliases.conf All of which appear to hold the same or more lists of aliases. So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. 7.e. Kernel Modules Configuring the Modules You should list the modules you want automatically loaded in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. You can add extra options to the modules too if you want. -- I recommend reading the entire handbook from start to finish; it has plenty of valuable information and will avoid unnecessary questions. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. So I guess when people are asking questions like this, they need to start stating what baselayout they are using. Of course, emerge --info would do this but most don't include that, including me most of the time. After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0500, Dale wrote: After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. -- Neil Bothwick I do not like this dumb machine I really ought to sell it. It never does just what I want But only what I tell it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0500, Dale wrote: After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com Baselayout 2 isn't used in the hardened gentoo base; it's ~x86 keyword (on x86). That's what I was going by. The handbook still references /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap7 -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:38:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. The difference is that this one is under the direct control of Gentoo devs, so it really ought to work, and does. -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word abbreviation so long? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:38:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. The difference is that this one is under the direct control of Gentoo devs, so it really ought to work, and does. That is what I have heard and am hoping for. I think the things the devs do is better than upstream most of the time. Dale :-) :-)
