Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 21 August 2008 17:17:43 Peter Ruskin wrote:
  Put USE=-arts in make.conf, remove all custom arts flags from
  package.use and remove everything with arts in it's name from
  world. Then run --depclean followed by the usual revdep-rebuild

 Instead of running emerge --depclean, better IMHO is:
 emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world -vat,
 followed by
 emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.

Well spotted :-)

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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-22 Thread James
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielmeier at googlemail.com writes:


  emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world -vat,
  followed by
  emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.

 But you can not expect that everybody is running unstable portage so
 this commands are not available for those running stable.


At which version of portage do these feature/options become available?

I think I'm going to upgrade to one of the unstable (~) versions of portage
to test out these features

Since there are several choices:

~2.1.5.6 ~2.2_rc1 ~2.2_rc5 ~2.2_rc6

does it matter which one I use? Use the latest (~2.2_rc6) ?



James








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-22 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/8/22, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 At which version of portage do these feature/options become available?

 I think I'm going to upgrade to one of the unstable (~) versions of portage
 to test out these features

 Since there are several choices:

 ~2.1.5.6 ~2.2_rc1 ~2.2_rc5 ~2.2_rc6

 does it matter which one I use? Use the latest (~2.2_rc6) ?


Then you should sync your portage tree. The only version supporting
the mentioned features which is currently in the tree is
portage-2.2_rc8.

Regards,

Daniel



[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-22 Thread James
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielmeier at googlemail.com writes:


  does it matter which one I use? Use the latest (~2.2_rc6) ?

 Then you should sync your portage tree. The only version supporting
 the mentioned features which is currently in the tree is
 portage-2.2_rc8.

Yep, 

my bad

thx

james







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 19:48:30 James wrote:
 I have mostly the small MM packages on these system, but the one
 that will update only have one difference that I can find, that is
 no 'artsplugin-xine'.

 Is this possible; to just remove artsplugin-xine Even though
 Kde-meta 3.5.9 is installed? A good idea?

kde3* and kde4* both work just fine without arts - I have run my machines like 
that for years now. arts was nothing more than an utter piece of total 
excrement that never worked properly, the design is buggy, and it causes huge 
problems with non-kde apps that want to use sound. alsa does all that arts 
ever did and more.

Put USE=-arts in make.conf, remove all custom arts flags from package.use 
and remove everything with arts in it's name from world. Then run --depclean 
followed by the usual revdep-rebuild

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:

 kde3* and kde4* both work just fine without arts - 

OK


 Put USE=-arts in make.conf, remove all custom arts flags from package.use 
 and remove everything with arts in it's name from world. Then run --depclean 
 followed by the usual revdep-rebuild


Very cool!

thx

James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/8/21, Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Instead of running emerge --depclean, better IMHO is:
 emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world -vat,
 followed by
 emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.


But you can not expect that everybody is running unstable portage so
this commands are not available for those running stable.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:27:08 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  Instead of running emerge --depclean, better IMHO is:
  emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world -vat,
  followed by
  emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.
   
 
 But you can not expect that everybody is running unstable portage so
 this commands are not available for those running stable.

True, but you should run emerge -uavDN world at least.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Why is it a that a fool and his money never appear when you need a loan?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Neil Bothwick schrieb am 21.08.2008 18:02:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:27:08 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:


Instead of running emerge --depclean, better IMHO is:
emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world -vat,
followed by
emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.
 

But you can not expect that everybody is running unstable portage so
this commands are not available for those running stable.


True, but you should run emerge -uavDN world at least.




I just want to state this particular commands are not available if using 
unstable portage so I would recommend this for stable after cleaning 
make.conf, package.use and world:


emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot world
emerge -p --depclean
revdep-rebuild

Sorry if this caused some confusion!

Regards,

Daniel



[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread James
Peter Ruskin peter.ruskin at dsl.pipex.com writes:



emerge --update --newuse --deep --oneshot @system @world
-vat, followed by
emerge -C arts and emerge @preserved-rebuild if necessary.

  True, but you should run emerge -uavDN world at least.

 Yes, that's much better than emerge --depclean (which I tried in 
 this instance - with -p - and it offered nothing relevant to losing 
 arts).


All good.

I always use emerge -uDNv world, personally after a -uDNvp.


thx


James










Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:43:10 +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote:

  True, but you should run emerge -uavDN world at least.  
 
 Yes, that's much better than emerge --depclean (which I tried in 
 this instance - with -p - and it offered nothing relevant to losing 
 arts).

It won't until you emerge world with --newuse, because your installed
versions still depend on arts.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If at first you don't succeed, bugger.


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[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg (update)

2008-08-20 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes:


 equery depends transcode
 app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 (encode? media-video/transcode)
 
 equery depends xine-lib
 kde-base/artsplugin-xine-3.5.9 (=media-libs/xine-lib-1.0)
 media-sound/amarok-1.4.9.1 (=media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r8)
 media-video/kaffeine-0.8.6 (=media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.9)
 media-video/kmplayer-0.10.0c (xine? =media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1)


Well now, with new information, I'm fairly confused.

I have one gentoo workstation that seems to be fine. After
spending quite some time looking at the differences in several
system, I have questions.

On this one (seems to hacked correctly) system I have eliminated:
artsplugin-xine

Kaffeine and k3b are both installed and working without 
artsplugin-xine ( I can play a DVD and burn a cd).
Heres some more information on this mystically working system
(as far as conflicts between xine-lib ffmpeg, transcode et al:


equery depends ffmpeg
[ Searching for packages depending on ffmpeg... ]
app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 (ffmpeg? media-video/ffmpeg)
media-libs/libquicktime-1.0.2 (ffmpeg? media-video/ffmpeg)
media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.15 (=media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070129)
media-sound/sox-14.0.1 (ffmpeg? media-video/ffmpeg)
media-video/motion-3.2.10.1 (ffmpeg? media-video/ffmpeg)
media-video/transcode-1.0.5-r3 (media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20080326)
media-video/vlc-0.8.6i (media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616-r20)
   (=media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20050226-r1)

equery depends xine-lib
[ Searching for packages depending on xine-lib... ]
media-video/codeine-1.0.1.3 (media-libs/xine-lib)
media-video/kaffeine-0.8.6 (=media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.9)
media-video/kmplayer-0.10.0c (xine? =media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1)
media-video/xine-ui-0.99.5-r1 (=media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.0)


I have mostly the small MM packages on these system, but the one
that will update only have one difference that I can find, that is
no 'artsplugin-xine'.

Is this possible; to just remove artsplugin-xine Even though
Kde-meta 3.5.9 is installed? A good idea?

Does arts go away with KDE 4x?



Looking for some advise here


James