Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Fernando Meira wrote: which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to edit it? It's probably hardcoded in the code. Workaround: $ sudo ln -s nano /usr/bin/vi Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 17:42 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have > it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. > So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to > edit it? > emerge vim and it should make "vi" link to vim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
I have changed the mouse input (from PS2 to USB) and solved that weird mouse behaviour. The touchpad also works well. Strange that by PS2 gets so crazy. Well, since things become more stable (at least until now), I been learning how to work with e17. However, there's a small problem. When I try to edit the URL of the weather module, I get this error: xterm: Can't execvp vi: No such file or directory which I understand because it is trying to use *vi* and I don't have it. If I'm not wrong, vi is not even in portage. So, is there a way to work around this, maybe using another editor to edit it? It would be nice to know the weather from here I am and not from Taunton.. :) Cheers, Fernando On 8/4/05, Fernando Meira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes... that would maybe be good idea. I'm using now the touchpad instead of the mouse and, until now, no weird behaviours! Thanks. FernandoOn 8/4/05, Luke Albers < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You should subscribe to the enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list and post this same message there. It probably hassomething to do with the WM rather than your X config if it worked justfine with another window manager-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Yes... that would maybe be good idea. I'm using now the touchpad instead of the mouse and, until now, no weird behaviours! Thanks. FernandoOn 8/4/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You should subscribe to the enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list and post this same message there. It probably hassomething to do with the WM rather than your X config if it worked justfine with another window manager-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:26 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Thanks anyway Luke! > > This looks like a crazy mouse behaviour... suddenly jumps to another > place and open the menu. > I think E17 never crashed (as I said before), but, in fact, what > happen (at least the last time) was that when the pointer jumped away, > opened the menu and (because I was trying to move the mouse, looking > for it, or always happens this) selected the "exit enlightenment" > option. I already logged out 3 times without being my intention. > Everything else seems to be going ok, just this mouse is causing a > mess in here... quite hard to do anything... > > The mouse is connected to the PS2, and xorg.conf has: > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Cheers, > Fernando You should subscribe to the enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list and post this same message there. It probably has something to do with the WM rather than your X config if it worked just fine with another window manager -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Thanks anyway Luke! This looks like a crazy mouse behaviour... suddenly jumps to another place and open the menu. I think E17 never crashed (as I said before), but, in fact, what happen (at least the last time) was that when the pointer jumped away, opened the menu and (because I was trying to move the mouse, looking for it, or always happens this) selected the "exit enlightenment" option. I already logged out 3 times without being my intention. Everything else seems to be going ok, just this mouse is causing a mess in here... quite hard to do anything... The mouse is connected to the PS2, and xorg.conf has: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Cheers, FernandoOn 8/4/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:53 +, Fernando Meira wrote:> Ok, thanks Christoph.> So, from these, does it look like a bug, mouse bad-config or something> else?I doubt its a big, since I haven't had this happen. I have had e17 crash a few times, but not as often as it sounds like yours is.Sorry I can't help more than that.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:53 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Ok, thanks Christoph. > So, from these, does it look like a bug, mouse bad-config or something > else? I doubt its a big, since I haven't had this happen. I have had e17 crash a few times, but not as often as it sounds like yours is. Sorry I can't help more than that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Ok, thanks Christoph. I'm just trying E17 for the first time now, and the first impression is good. However, there a weird behaviour with the mouse. The mouse pointer disappears very frequently, crashing from time to time one application. xterm blew aways few minutes ago. In fact, this is the second time I'm writing this mail, cause 1 minute ago E17 crashed and I was send back to entrance. So, from these, does it look like a bug, mouse bad-config or something else? I dont know if I dare to open xterm again to post here my xorg.conf... Any idea? FernandoOn 8/4/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fernando Meira wrote:> Also found other scripts to compile directly from cvs, without using> portage. Can anyone tell me what the advantage of doing so?I'd suggest using portage since it allows you to uninstall, query information and doing other nice package managment stuff.> Christoph, is there so many modifications to update E17 every day? What> about once a week?I update about once or twice a week. Mostly after raster has commited some new stuff. See [1] or [2] for news on e17.[1] http://www.get-e.org/Main/News/or via RSS: http://www.get-e.org/Main/News/feed.xml [2] http://www.edevelop.org/You could also watch for CVS changes yourself:$ cd /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17$ cvs -nq up$ cd /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/misc $ cvs -nq upEvery line starting with 'U' got updated.Christoph--echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Fernando Meira wrote: Also found other scripts to compile directly from cvs, without using portage. Can anyone tell me what the advantage of doing so? I'd suggest using portage since it allows you to uninstall, query information and doing other nice package managment stuff. Christoph, is there so many modifications to update E17 every day? What about once a week? I update about once or twice a week. Mostly after raster has commited some new stuff. See [1] or [2] for news on e17. [1] http://www.get-e.org/Main/News/ or via RSS: http://www.get-e.org/Main/News/feed.xml [2] http://www.edevelop.org/ You could also watch for CVS changes yourself: $ cd /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17 $ cvs -nq up $ cd /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/misc $ cvs -nq up Every line starting with 'U' got updated. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Fernando Meira wrote: And in the E docs, there is this sentence: "Note that you should not mix -* and ~x86 ebuilds." So is it enough that I just change everything to -* and all packages will be upgraded, or will I need to unmerge every package before? Just keyword all packages -* and update everything. unmerging is handled by portage, as you would expect it ;-) Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Fernando Meira wrote: Christoph, I can't find the screenshot I saw and made me think about moving to E, but this one is also good and has the panel (right under the IM app) I was talking about: http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~uriel/images/screen.jpg In the browser window you can see the guy describing his dektop in the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282082.html It seems like you're looking for the gdesklets. My aim for the desktop look is something simple, with gentoo icons at the bottom for shortcuts to most used apps and that stuff (calendar and info panel)... [now I think that I may misused the word "panel".. sorry!] I will need help to make it look like that.. and guide or howto? With e17 you'll get engage, an OSX like iconbar. For the calendar and info panel you could use gdesklets and gdeskcal (like on the screenshot). A question before emerging e17: that won't replace e16, right? No problem, they won't interfere with each other. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On 8/3/05, Justin Patrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying e17 as well after reading this ;-) Great Justin :) I suggest emerging edge before epsilon or you'll get compile errors. I just finish compiling it and I got no problems (at least that I'm aware of)... so it also works with this sequence :) I found this script which uses portage to update E17, but checks if packages were modified since last update. When the first package is found, that one and the remaining (onwards) are emerged. This seems to save a time compiling unmodified packages! Also found other scripts to compile directly from cvs, without using portage. Can anyone tell me what the advantage of doing so? Christoph, is there so many modifications to update E17 every day? What about once a week? the script: #!/bin/bash CONTINUE=1 ### This is not a complete list of e17 packages!! # E_LIST="eet\ edb\ evas\ ecore\ embryo\ edje\ epeg\ epsilon\ esmart\ engrave\ ewl\ e\ e_utils\ engage\ e_modules" echo -ne " \033[01;33m *\033[01;00;0m Do you want to run rsync to backup current cvs? [Enter/Yes or No]: "; read REPLY; case $REPLY in "" | [yY]*) rsync --progress --delete -ab /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17 /mnt/backups; ;; *) echo -e " \033[01;33m *\033[01;00;0m Continuing to emerge"; ;; esac for i in $E_LIST do echo -e " \033[01;33m *\033[01;00;0m Updating $i cvs"; if [[ $CONTINUE -eq 1 ]]; then E_PATH=`equery which $i`; UPDATE=`ebuild $E_PATH unpack | grep -e "^[UP]"`; echo $UPDATE; ebuild $E_PATH clean; if [ ! -z "$UPDATE" ]; then CONTINUE=0; echo -e " \033[01;33m *\033[01;00;0m Waiting 10 sec before continuing with emerge from this package onwards... package = $i"; echo -ne " \033[01;31m *\033[01;00;0m " for j in $( seq 1 10 ) do echo -ne "\033[01;31m$(( 11-j ))\033[01;00;0m "; sleep 1; done echo " "; fi fi [[ $CONTINUE -eq 0 ]] && emerge --oneshot $i; # [[ $CONTINUE -eq 0 ]] && echo -e " \033[01;33m *\033[01;00;0m emerge --oneshot $i"; done Cheers, Fernando
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On 8/3/05, Fernando Meira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, i agree. > I just hope that's enough. > I'll emerge e17 now :D > I'll bring news.. soon.. > I'm trying e17 as well after reading this ;-) I suggest emerging edge before epsilon or you'll get compile errors. > > > On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > > > On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't really understand the problem. > > > > > > I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email > > > works > > > fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried > > > to run it > > > one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black > > > block on > > > the bottom of my screen, so I killed it. > > > > > > engage is a dockbar and E17 module. > > > What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs > > > version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. > > > So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already > > > installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86. > > > So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the > > > remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages > > > and redo everything using -* for all packages. > > > > > > This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86. > > > > > > Hope it's clear now... > > > Cheers, > > > Fernando > > > > I would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you get > > everything from CVS > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- Justin Patrin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
yes, i agree. I just hope that's enough. I'll emerge e17 now :D I'll bring news.. soon.. Cheers, Fernando.On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote:> On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I don't really understand the problem. >> I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email> works> fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried> to run it> one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black > block on> the bottom of my screen, so I killed it.>> engage is a dockbar and E17 module.> What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs> version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. > So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already> installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86.> So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the > remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages> and redo everything using -* for all packages.>> This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86.> > Hope it's clear now...> Cheers,> FernandoI would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you geteverything from CVS--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't really understand the problem. > > I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email > works > fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried > to run it > one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black > block on > the bottom of my screen, so I killed it. > > engage is a dockbar and E17 module. > What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs > version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. > So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already > installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86. > So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the > remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages > and redo everything using -* for all packages. > > This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86. > > Hope it's clear now... > Cheers, > Fernando I would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you get everything from CVS -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't really understand the problem.I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email works fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried to run itone time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black block onthe bottom of my screen, so I killed it. engage is a dockbar and E17 module. What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86. So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages and redo everything using -* for all packages. This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86. Hope it's clear now... Cheers, Fernando
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:28 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Another doubt: > > For emerging engage I had to mask a few packages (from snapshot > instead of cvs): > x11-misc/engage ~x86 > x11-libs/ecore ~x86 > x11-libs/evas ~x86 > dev-libs/eet ~x86 > media-libs/edje ~x86 > dev-libs/embryo ~x86 > x11-libs/ewl ~x86 > media-libs/etox ~x86 > app-misc/examine ~x86 > x11-libs/esmart ~x86 > media-libs/epsilon ~x86 > media-libs/epeg ~x86 > > And in the E docs, there is this sentence: > "Note that you should not mix -* and ~x86 ebuilds." > > So is it enough that I just change everything to -* and all packages > will be upgraded, or will I need to unmerge every package before? > > Thanks, > Fernando > I don't really understand the problem. I use ~x86 for everything. What I pasted in my previous email works fine for me. I don't really know what engage is, but I tried to run it one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black block on the bottom of my screen, so I killed it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:56 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? > Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you > specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again > when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)' > would suffice... > > Fernando > > On 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > good call. I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt > really > pay any attention to what that script was doing. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > yeah you only need to do the package.keywords stuff once. I just pasted that all into a script the first time I compiled E17, and kept running it every day. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:51 +, Fernando Meira wrote: > Thank you all for answering :) > > I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been > seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16 > afterwards). > > Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you > said that I should start my experience with enlightenment wm in its > newer version and skip the learning stage in its stable version? :) > I dont see any reason not to try e17. I also dont see any reason not to try e16 if you think it looks interesting as well. I think e17 is going to be, if its not already, better in just about every way than e16. I don't think that emergeing e17 will overwrite e16, because the executable for e17 is called enlightenment-0.17, which probably was done intentionally so that "enlightenment" from e16 wouldnt be overwritten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Another doubt: For emerging engage I had to mask a few packages (from snapshot instead of cvs): x11-misc/engage ~x86 x11-libs/ecore ~x86 x11-libs/evas ~x86 dev-libs/eet ~x86 media-libs/edje ~x86 dev-libs/embryo ~x86 x11-libs/ewl ~x86 media-libs/etox ~x86 app-misc/examine ~x86 x11-libs/esmart ~x86 media-libs/epsilon ~x86 media-libs/epeg ~x86 And in the E docs, there is this sentence: "Note that you should not mix -* and ~x86 ebuilds." So is it enough that I just change everything to -* and all packages will be upgraded, or will I need to unmerge every package before? Thanks, FernandoOn 8/3/05, Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: echo "=x11-wm/e- -*=dev-db/edb- -*=dev-libs/eet- -*=media-libs/imlib2- -*=media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -*=x11-libs/evas- -*=x11-libs/ecore- -*=media-libs/epeg- -* =media-libs/epsilon- -*=dev-libs/embryo- -*=media-libs/edje- -*=x11-libs/esmart- -*=media-libs/etox- -*=x11-libs/ewl- -*=dev-libs/engrave- -*=dev-util/e_utils- -* =x11-misc/entrance- -*=app-misc/evidence- -*=x11-misc/engage- -*=media-gfx/elicit- -*=media-gfx/entice- -*=media-video/elation- -*=media-video/envision- -*=app-misc/examine- -* =media-libs/emotion- -*=mail-client/embrace- -*=net-news/erss- -*=media-video/eclair- -*=sci-calculators/equate- -*=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryoedje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engageelicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair e_modules
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)' would suffice... FernandoOn 8/3/05, Luke Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: good call. I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt reallypay any attention to what that script was doing. --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Thank you all for answering :) I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16 afterwards). Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you said that I should start my experience with enlightenment wm in its newer version and skip the learning stage in its stable version? :) Christoph, I can't find the screenshot I saw and made me think about moving to E, but this one is also good and has the panel (right under the IM app) I was talking about: http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~uriel/images/screen.jpg My aim for the desktop look is something simple, with gentoo icons at the bottom for shortcuts to most used apps and that stuff (calendar and info panel)... [now I think that I may misused the word "panel".. sorry!] I will need help to make it look like that.. and guide or howto? A question before emerging e17: that won't replace e16, right? So, I'll do the steps you provided me and emerge e17. I'll cross my fingers and hope it compiles. echo "=x11-wm/e- -*=dev-db/edb- -*=dev-libs/eet- -*=media-libs/imlib2- -* =media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -*=x11-libs/evas- -*=x11-libs/ecore- -*=media-libs/epeg- -*=media-libs/epsilon- -*=dev-libs/embryo- -*=media-libs/edje- -*=x11-libs/esmart- -* =media-libs/etox- -*=x11-libs/ewl- -*=dev-libs/engrave- -*=dev-util/e_utils- -*=x11-misc/entrance- -*=app-misc/evidence- -*=x11-misc/engage- -*=media-gfx/elicit- -* =media-gfx/entice- -*=media-video/elation- -*=media-video/envision- -*=app-misc/examine- -*=media-libs/emotion- -*=mail-client/embrace- -*=net-news/erss- -*=media-video/eclair- -* =sci-calculators/equate- -*=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywordsemerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryoedje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclaire_modules Cheers, Fernando
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:59 +0200, Christoph Gysin wrote: ... > I'd suggest running this once: > ... > and then the following each time you want to update: > > emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo > edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage > elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair > e_modules > > Else you'll lose everything previously defined in your package.keywords :-( good call. I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt really pay any attention to what that script was doing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Luke Albers wrote: I run this every day to recompile from CVS. Somtimes it compiles, sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care. I don't think it is difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the command line. The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp files, but you can get other peoples' and use them. I'd suggest running this once: echo " =x11-wm/e- -* =dev-db/edb- -* =dev-libs/eet- -* =media-libs/imlib2- -* =media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -* =x11-libs/evas- -* =x11-libs/ecore- -* =media-libs/epeg- -* =media-libs/epsilon- -* =dev-libs/embryo- -* =media-libs/edje- -* =x11-libs/esmart- -* =media-libs/etox- -* =x11-libs/ewl- -* =dev-libs/engrave- -* =dev-util/e_utils- -* =x11-misc/entrance- -* =app-misc/evidence- -* =x11-misc/engage- -* =media-gfx/elicit- -* =media-gfx/entice- -* =media-video/elation- -* =media-video/envision- -* =app-misc/examine- -* =media-libs/emotion- -* =mail-client/embrace- -* =net-news/erss- -* =media-video/eclair- -* =sci-calculators/equate- -* =x11-plugins/e_modules- -* " >> /etc/portage/package.keywords and then the following each time you want to update: emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair e_modules Else you'll lose everything previously defined in your package.keywords :-( Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:20 -0400, fire-eyes wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > > How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? > > E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a > long shot, and I find it rather difficult to use, when everything > compiles (it often doesn't). > > For experimenting I would say go ahead, and you can find a nice guide on > this at: > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17 > > Just remember it's very early code, and it may or may not build from one > day to the next. > > But it's neat to toy with :) > I run this every day to recompile from CVS. Somtimes it compiles, sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care. I don't think it is difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the command line. The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp files, but you can get other peoples' and use them. echo ">=x11-wm/e- -* >=dev-db/edb- -* >=dev-libs/eet- -* >=media-libs/imlib2- -* >=media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -* >=x11-libs/evas- -* >=x11-libs/ecore- -* >=media-libs/epeg- -* >=media-libs/epsilon- -* >=dev-libs/embryo- -* >=media-libs/edje- -* >=x11-libs/esmart- -* >=media-libs/etox- -* >=x11-libs/ewl- -* >=dev-libs/engrave- -* >=dev-util/e_utils- -* >=x11-misc/entrance- -* >=app-misc/evidence- -* >=x11-misc/engage- -* >=media-gfx/elicit- -* >=media-gfx/entice- -* >=media-video/elation- -* >=media-video/envision- -* >=app-misc/examine- -* >=media-libs/emotion- -* >=mail-client/embrace- -* >=net-news/erss- -* >=media-video/eclair- -* >=sci-calculators/equate- -* >=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*" > /etc/portage/package.keywords && emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair e_modules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Fernando Meira wrote: I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and arrange it to my way. Welcome to enlightenment! However, I been reading in forums about e17, which is still (who knows until when) development, and I was thinking about if it is worth to update my e16. How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? For a package which needs the KEYWORD '-*' it runs remarkably stable. Of course you can have bad luck while compiling the live-cvs ebuilds, but if you try again a little later everything builds fine. I update it about 2 times a week, and watch it grow since about half a year. Be warned that most of the configuration for e17 still happens from the command-line. The GUI tools will follow, but that will take some time. I you're not afraid of using the CL, e17 will reward you with the most advanced graphical features you have ever seen from a WM, while beeing incredibly fast and lightweight a the same time! The official enlightment home: http://www.enlightenment.org/ Inofficial Themes, Backgrounds, Icons, Screenshots, Documentation, News: http://www.get-e.org/ Also, is there any links to HOWTO configure it (e16) and howto install&use those nice panels that I see on some screenshots? As i understood, some of them are from e17 libs, but work on e16, right? Which panels are you referring to? Link to screenshot? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a long shot, and I find it rather difficult to use, when everything compiles (it often doesn't). For experimenting I would say go ahead, and you can find a nice guide on this at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17 Just remember it's very early code, and it may or may not build from one day to the next. But it's neat to toy with :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote: > Hi, > > I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I > haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be > looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and > arrange it to my way. > However, I been reading in forums about e17, which is still (who knows > until when) development, and I was thinking about if it is worth to > update my e16. How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments > about this? > Also, is there any links to HOWTO configure it (e16) and howto > install&use those nice panels that I see on some screenshots? As i > understood, some of them are from e17 libs, but work on e16, right? > I have been using e17 every day for about 3 months, and it runs fine. I have never used e16 so I cant tell you if "the new stuff is worth it", but e17 rocks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17
Hi, I have recently emerged e16 for trial (I always used KDE) and I haven't explored it too much yet, but I'm quite happy with it. I'll be looking for a pretty desktop theme (which I haven't found yet) and arrange it to my way. However, I been reading in forums about e17, which is still (who knows until when) development, and I was thinking about if it is worth to update my e16. How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this? Also, is there any links to HOWTO configure it (e16) and howto install&use those nice panels that I see on some screenshots? As i understood, some of them are from e17 libs, but work on e16, right? cheers, Fernando
