Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Michael Vetter
Am 09/01/15 um 03:37 schrieb Dale:
 Jc García wrote:
  2015-01-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
  Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 
  will
  be unmasked?
 
  Keep an eye on the bug-tracker for the unmasking of qt5[1] or hang
  around the #gentoo-qt irc channel[2] , there you can get first hand
  information,
 
  It's work that needs to be done, and usually developers work on their
  free time and bugs might keep arising, so prediction doesn't work.
 
  [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
  [2] irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-qt
 
 
 On this topic, has anyone used qt5 and plasma 5 yet?  Is it at least
 workable?  I ask because I may give it a try unless people think it is
 to early yet. 

I have encountered several Gentooers in #gentoo-qt and #gentoo-kde that
use it already. It seems to work, thought not perfectly.

Some Ubuntu-using friends of mine use Qt5 on a daily basis without
problems, I wondered: what's different in Gentoo?

cheers

-- 
Michael



Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Dale
behrouz khosravi wrote:


 Could be compiler differences, USE flags etc.   I may give it a shot.
 Just see what it looks like if nothing else.  I just didn't want
 to step
 into water that was way over my head.  ;-)


 That is exactly my concern!
 I tried to unmask it but it seemed to be a little hard!


I peeked at it and it is both masked and keyworded.  That is one reason
for my question.  When something is masked, it is either not ready for
normal use OR has a security problem.  There are sometimes other reasons
but those are the two common reasons for that type of setting that I see.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread behrouz khosravi


 Could be compiler differences, USE flags etc.   I may give it a shot.
 Just see what it looks like if nothing else.  I just didn't want to step
 into water that was way over my head.  ;-)


That is exactly my concern!
I tried to unmask it but it seemed to be a little hard!


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Oriani
On 01/08/2015 09:37 PM, Dale wrote:
 Jc García wrote:
 2015-01-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
 Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 will
 be unmasked?

 Keep an eye on the bug-tracker for the unmasking of qt5[1] or hang
 around the #gentoo-qt irc channel[2] , there you can get first hand
 information,

 It's work that needs to be done, and usually developers work on their
 free time and bugs might keep arising, so prediction doesn't work.

 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
 [2] irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-qt


 
 On this topic, has anyone used qt5 and plasma 5 yet?  Is it at least
 workable?  I ask because I may give it a try unless people think it is
 to early yet. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-) 
 
 

I've been using it on my machine for a few months now actually. In the
beginning there were tons of ups and downs as it got stabilized, but
it's been pretty smooth lately.

There are definitely some kinks that still need to be worked out, and
there are only a couple k-applications that have been updated to work
with the new frameworks (unless you're willing to go with the live ebuilds).

I'd wait till plasma 5.2 is released, or at least in beta. I've heard
that a lot of bugs will be ironed out then. Though if you're curious,
it's completely usable right now, nothing is currently on fire on my
computer!



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Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread behrouz khosravi


 There is definitely a ton to unmask, and if you want kde4 alongside
 there are some USE flags to mess around with. I don't really remember
 which anymore, but portage should give some hints.

 I don't use SDDM, it looked nice, but I like LightDM too much


I am not planning to use kde4, so I think that wont bother me.
I have heard that SDDM is recommended for Plasma 5, however I am using slim
right now
and it is more that enough for me!


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Oriani
On 01/09/2015 02:20 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote:


 There is definitely a ton to unmask, and if you want kde4 alongside
 there are some USE flags to mess around with. I don't really remember
 which anymore, but portage should give some hints.

 I don't use SDDM, it looked nice, but I like LightDM too much


 I am not planning to use kde4, so I think that wont bother me.
 I have heard that SDDM is recommended for Plasma 5, however I am using slim
 right now
 and it is more that enough for me!
 
SDDM is merely upstreams replacement for KDM, as I understand it. There
also may be security vulnerabilities in SDDM, I know several versions
have been masked because of that.



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Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread behrouz khosravi


 I couldn't stop myself anymore! Right now I am trying to get Plasma 5 on
 my machine.
 This is not easy though. I just hope I wont break anything critical!


I am trying to install SDDM for the fisrt step.


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Oriani
On 01/09/2015 01:15 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote:


 I couldn't stop myself anymore! Right now I am trying to get Plasma 5 on
 my machine.
 This is not easy though. I just hope I wont break anything critical!

 
 I am trying to install SDDM for the fisrt step.
 

There is definitely a ton to unmask, and if you want kde4 alongside
there are some USE flags to mess around with. I don't really remember
which anymore, but portage should give some hints.

I don't use SDDM, it looked nice, but I like LightDM too much



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Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread behrouz khosravi


 I've been using it on my machine for a few months now actually. In the
 beginning there were tons of ups and downs as it got stabilized, but
 it's been pretty smooth lately.

 There are definitely some kinks that still need to be worked out, and
 there are only a couple k-applications that have been updated to work
 with the new frameworks (unless you're willing to go with the live
 ebuilds).

 I'd wait till plasma 5.2 is released, or at least in beta. I've heard
 that a lot of bugs will be ironed out then. Though if you're curious,
 it's completely usable right now, nothing is currently on fire on my
 computer!


I couldn't stop myself anymore! Right now I am trying to get Plasma 5 on my
machine.
This is not easy though. I just hope I wont break anything critical!


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 09.01.2015 um 10:47 schrieb Dale:
 behrouz khosravi wrote:


 Could be compiler differences, USE flags etc.   I may give it a shot.
 Just see what it looks like if nothing else.  I just didn't want
 to step
 into water that was way over my head.  ;-)


 That is exactly my concern!
 I tried to unmask it but it seemed to be a little hard!


 I peeked at it and it is both masked and keyworded.  That is one
 reason for my question.  When something is masked, it is either not
 ready for normal use OR has a security problem.  There are sometimes
 other reasons but those are the two common reasons for that type of
 setting that I see.

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

and most common: unmasking it might lead to an disagreeable situation
for some people because a lot of work is needed to proceed.



Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread behrouz khosravi


 SDDM is merely upstreams replacement for KDM, as I understand it. There
 also may be security vulnerabilities in SDDM, I know several versions
 have been masked because of that.

Good to know. Thanks
I will keep my slim, and see if slim is able to do job.


Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-09 Thread Dale
Michael Vetter wrote:
 Am 09/01/15 um 03:37 schrieb Dale:
 Jc García wrote:
 2015-01-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
 Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 
 will
 be unmasked?

 Keep an eye on the bug-tracker for the unmasking of qt5[1] or hang
 around the #gentoo-qt irc channel[2] , there you can get first hand
 information,

 It's work that needs to be done, and usually developers work on their
 free time and bugs might keep arising, so prediction doesn't work.

 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
 [2] irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-qt


 On this topic, has anyone used qt5 and plasma 5 yet?  Is it at least
 workable?  I ask because I may give it a try unless people think it is
 to early yet. 
 I have encountered several Gentooers in #gentoo-qt and #gentoo-kde that
 use it already. It seems to work, thought not perfectly.

 Some Ubuntu-using friends of mine use Qt5 on a daily basis without
 problems, I wondered: what's different in Gentoo?

 cheers



Could be compiler differences, USE flags etc.   I may give it a shot. 
Just see what it looks like if nothing else.  I just didn't want to step
into water that was way over my head.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-08 Thread Dale
Jc García wrote:
 2015-01-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
 Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 will
 be unmasked?

 Keep an eye on the bug-tracker for the unmasking of qt5[1] or hang
 around the #gentoo-qt irc channel[2] , there you can get first hand
 information,

 It's work that needs to be done, and usually developers work on their
 free time and bugs might keep arising, so prediction doesn't work.

 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
 [2] irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-qt



On this topic, has anyone used qt5 and plasma 5 yet?  Is it at least
workable?  I ask because I may give it a try unless people think it is
to early yet. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 




Re: [gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-08 Thread Jc García
2015-01-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
 Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 will
 be unmasked?

Keep an eye on the bug-tracker for the unmasking of qt5[1] or hang
around the #gentoo-qt irc channel[2] , there you can get first hand
information,

It's work that needs to be done, and usually developers work on their
free time and bugs might keep arising, so prediction doesn't work.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454132
[2] irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-qt



[gentoo-user] unmasking qt5 and plasma 5

2015-01-08 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hi. I was wondering that is it predictable that when qt5 and plasma 5 will
be unmasked?

thanks.