Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 23. Dezember 2005 07:12 schrieb ext Dale: I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive. I want to remove KDE completely. Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde does not get the job done. What is a easy way to do this? I did a emerge -ep world | grep kde but it is one heck of a list. It's 6 pages long in OOo. emerge unmerge kde-meta and emerge -a depclean (Since you have such a long package list I assume you installed via split ebuilds, otherwise replace kde-meta with kde). HTH... Dirk That works but that warning message worried me a bit. I did a -p first. The -a would have worked to though. That was to simple. I figured someone would come along with a command from here to Oregon or something. I live in Mississippi, USA. It's a long ways anyway. Maybe I should have said from earth to the moon. LOL Thanks Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: > Well, of course! This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here! What you need > is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..." Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm showed and make sure they are all installed. -- Neil Bothwick "Bother," said Pooh, when he read his AIDS test results. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:42:38 -1000, Beau E. Cox wrote: > I have a small perl script, 'echanges', that determines the latest > timestamp for installed packages; I find it very helpful to determine > what my daily cron of 'emerge -uD world' has done. I will post it > here if there is any interest; But genlop already does that. What it is missing is the option to use the installation date of another package as the argument to --date. -- Neil Bothwick CAUTION: Do not install prior to installation. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:12:41 -0600, Dale wrote: > I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive. I > want to remove KDE completely. Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde > does not get the job done. What is a easy way to do this? If you installed the kde meta-package, then all other kde packages will be installed as dependencies of that, so you can remove them with emerge -C kde emerge -a depclean You can list all installed kde packages with qpkg -g kde-base or equery list | grep kde-base but removing them all is a bad idea, some of them, like kdelibs, may also be dependencies pf packages that are not part of kde-base. You could also add -kde to USE and do emerge -uavDN world, to make sure any packages compiled with optional KDE support (and dependencies) have it removed. -- Neil Bothwick Mac screen message: "Like, dude, something went wrong." signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:32:23 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes, but then you'd have to do some funky regexp stuff to find the > > last line showing gcc (in this case) and only show the lines after > > it. It was a lot easier to do this with find -newer. > > Here is a pooryly coded sloppy perl script I just wrote. > Rather than get to tricky with date regex it relies on genlop output > being in chrono order. If it ever isn't I'm sunk. What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted? However, if you want to do it with genlop, here's a one line bash script. #!/bin/sh genlop --list --date "$(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/^ *\(.*\) >>>.*/\1/')" -- Neil Bothwick My friends went to alt.california, and all they brought me was this lousy sig. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: Well, of course! This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here! What you need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..." Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm showed and make sure they are all installed. That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:42:06 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: > >Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm > >showed and make sure they are all installed. > That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo > packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM > indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered. The key word here is "indicated". rpm only knows about the files in its database, files that were themselves installed by rpm. Obviously, that database is empty on a Gentoo system as everything has been installed from portage. What you need to do is go through the list of files that rpm says it needs and check for the existence of each one with locate (run updatedb before you start, to be safe). You may well find that they all exist, in which case you can call rpm with --nodeps. If not, you'll have a far shorter list of truly missing files to check up on. If the package for a file is not obvious from its name, try searching for it on http://rpmfind.net or http://packages.debian.org. This will tell you which package supplies this file on other distros, the Gentoo package will generally have a similar name. -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, you must be a programmer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with openoffice2 and menu fonts
> I've a font problem is openoffice2: I've compiled the source but the > fonts of the menu are all extremely big (if I open the File menu it > convers almost all the screen). > > There'is a way to reduce the fonts of the menu or an option to give to > emerge during the compilation? > > thanks > Giulio Do the rest of your GTK apps have large fonts? If so emerge gtk-chtheme that will allow your change the font size. The only difference is, is that you need to export: OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome before starting OO2. More info here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beautify_GNOME#OpenOffice -- Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical) "When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free". - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
Mariusz Pękala wrote: Alternate way: cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base for x in *; do emerge unmerge "=$x" ; done Oh, no. I was too quick - it can break dependencies. Don't do it. :-) Me didn't. I used the depclean one, after a -p and a good look first. O-O LOL I didn't understand that one. It went right over my head, wy over. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My dad had This article might be of help: http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
On 2005-12-23 00:12:41 -0600 (Fri, Dec), Dale wrote: > Hi guys, and Holly, > > I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive. I > want to remove KDE completely. Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde > does not get the job done. What is a easy way to do this? I did a > emerge -ep world | grep kde but it is one heck of a list. It's 6 pages > long in OOo. > > There has to be a easy way. Be gentle with me now. I'm learning. Oh, > if it is a mile long, give me a map of what it is doing. Sort of > explain it's thinking to me a bit. I do now what the pipe thing is > though. That can be neat. Would be nice if unmerge kde would work > though. > emerge -va unmerge $(grep kde /var/lib/portage/world) emerge -va depclean I hope that would do the trick. -a will ask you before doing unmerge. Alternate way: cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base for x in *; do emerge unmerge "=$x" ; done HTH. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by 'grep -i virus $MESSAGE' Trust me. pgp19SsGgHgs6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
> Alternate way: > cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base > for x in *; do emerge unmerge "=$x" ; done Oh, no. I was too quick - it can break dependencies. Don't do it. :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by 'grep -i virus $MESSAGE' Trust me. pgp8MviLlraYM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors
Tom Smith schreef: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: >> >> >> >>> Well, of course! This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here! What you >>> need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..." >>> >> >> >> Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm >> showed and make sure they are all installed. >> >> > That was my original question that started this thread... Which > Gentoo packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that > RPM indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered. The RPM errors do not mean that those packages are not installed. I mean, come on-- > error: Failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libICE.so.6 is needed > by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXext.so.6 is needed > by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1 is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libglib-1.2.so.0 is > needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1 is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 > libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1 is > needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libz.so.1 is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by > Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 Surely you don't think that you're missing /bin/sh or glibc!! The issue here is that RPMs use an RPM database to keep track of what is installed. You don't have an RPM database, because Gentoo is not a binary RPM-based distribution and therefore none of the dependencies were installed via RPM. You are never going to be able to convince the RPM which you're trying to install independently that the programs are already present. This is why --nodeps was suggested; the RPM you're trying to install won't then try to scan the non-existant database for programs that are installed, but not via RPM. Presumably the ebuilds for RPM applications do a complex process of linking the various aspects of the pre-compiled binary to the previously-existing aspects of the Gentoo system, so that the RPM doesn't freak out, and the Gentoo system can access the RPM program. Win4Lin is, naturally, a very complicated install, and so it's not as if you could just 'pop it in' as if it was Flash or the ATI drivers (one-function applications that don't require hooks to many parts of the base system). Were I you, I would consider looking at the most recent Win4Lin ebuild and see how it does it, then either try copying the ebuild to my overlay and updating it to work with the current version you have-- or as previously suggested, contacting the maintainer of the Win4Lin ebuild (or posting a bug to that effect) and seeing if you can get an update. After all, the maintainer will have to do this sometime, when the app is released, and perhaps it's a difficult procedure that takes some time. So it might be worthwhile to give said maintainer a heads-up now and get the ball rolling if it is not. At the very least, you might be able to get some tips as to how to get a provisional/temporary/overlay ebuild working, or what the issues involved might be. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
Hello. Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world I run emaint --check world and it told me this : 'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools : * app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ] Latest version available: 5.0.0 Latest version installed: 5.0.0 Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/ Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation License: vmware Then I thought "Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !" (and I'm not "~x86" because I'm a Gentoo newbie) I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this : ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" I don't understand then why it is masked... I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file but after that, nothing changed :-( I have two questions : Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ? How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ? Thank you :-) -- Etienne Hilson Alcatel Bell SA Customer Support Department Namur Office : +32 81 23 56 01 Mobile : +32 478 96 04 69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
try this : ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -av vmware On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:12:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello. > > Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message > Calculating world dependencies > !!! Problems have been detected with your world file > !!! Please run emaint --check world > > I run emaint --check world and it told me this : > > 'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available > > Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools : > > * app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ] > Latest version available: 5.0.0 > Latest version installed: 5.0.0 > Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB > Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/ > Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation > License: vmware > > Then I thought "Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !" > (and I'm not "~x86" because I'm a Gentoo newbie) > > I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this : > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" > > I don't understand then why it is masked... > > I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put > app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools > into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file > but after that, nothing changed :-( > > I have two questions : > Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ? > How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ? > > Thank you :-) > > > -- > Etienne Hilson > Alcatel Bell SA > Customer Support Department Namur > Office : +32 81 23 56 01 > Mobile : +32 478 96 04 69 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Incorrect information from /proc/cpuinfo
Hi Devon, on Monday, 2005-12-19 at 23:13:52, you wrote: > I'm going to reboot again and experiment a bit to see if I can nail down > what triggers the abberation. Just an idea, haven't followed the thread: could it have to do with the new timer frequency setting under "Processor Type and Features"? regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpUGLlcgehTh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper package.* file. My $.02 worth. Dale :-) I top posted just to be consistant. No flaming please. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this : ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -av vmware On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:12:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world I run emaint --check world and it told me this : 'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools : * app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ] Latest version available: 5.0.0 Latest version installed: 5.0.0 Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/ Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation License: vmware Then I thought "Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !" (and I'm not "~x86" because I'm a Gentoo newbie) I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this : ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" I don't understand then why it is masked... I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file but after that, nothing changed :-( I have two questions : Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ? How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ? Thank you :-) -- Etienne Hilson Alcatel Bell SA Customer Support Department Namur Office : +32 81 23 56 01 Mobile : +32 478 96 04 69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: snacc
thanks I will try google. On 12/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I was holping to find snacc ( that is a gnu tool for ASN.1 ) on > > portage tree. How can I find this file on portage tree if it exists ? > > Look at emege man page. Partiularly `emerge -s' > > But you might like `esearch' better. Its on the portage tree at: > app-portage/esearch (/usr/bin/esearch). > > I don't nkow what ASN.1 or snacc is but if its a fill inside a package > you can't find it on portage. > > One way to do it is find it on one of the distros that list files > inside there packages like rpm does. Find it on google and see what > package its in. There is a good chance the same package name or close > will be true for gentoo too. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- An application asked: "Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better", so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Hi Mark, on Tuesday, 2005-12-20 at 07:40:42, you wrote: > > [thin client] > I'm sure that's possible. I could even use her current Win ME box in > some sort of dual boot config I suppose. However the reason I didn't > start with that idea is that I am not there to hand hold her. If she's > running Gnome how do I ensure that everything is saved on the main > machine and not the thin client. I fear that this whole path, while > certainly possible, might cause me too much work. Please remember this > is a 75 year old lady who has never used Linux. ;-) I got a Linux box for my mum as well after her Mac died, so I know it's near impossible to teach some people about folder structures :) Hoewever, on a thin client that wouldn't be a problem as the only thing the client does is to provide a "view" to the host. All application would be running on your machine so they wouldn't even know their display is being routed to somewhere else where another file system may be present. I haven't done it except with a dedicated X-Terminal but it should be the same procedure for Gentoo as for any other Linux. regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpWEXccS44B2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:11:14 -0600, Dale wrote: > A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ > idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper > package.* file. Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only use it when you understand those risks. To the OP, do you really need vmware-linux-tools? these are the guest OS tools. AIUI, you only need them if you are running Gentoo inside VMware. -- Neil Bothwick Love and Trust: Oral sex between cannibals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: > Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the > license code. They haven't officially released the "Terminal Server" > product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got > is the "initial" release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for > Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality. > We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product. snip... > > The biggest problem with WTS 3 is that the fricking Num Lock doesn't > work on ANY Linux distro I've tried EXCEPT MDK 9.2. > Try using numlockx. > It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments > about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or > other people having with it? > Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow. You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages. Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5 is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly work right. Again read their forum pages. Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4 Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6 Good luck. > Peter wrote: > >>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>>VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal >>>Server. >>> >>>I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from >>>their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think >>>VMware can do anything like this, can it? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Don't know if VMW has anything like a terminal server. However, you >>should read the Win4Lin forums and see some of the comments. I don't >>even think the server product is finished yet. If it's anything like >>Pro, then stay away. >> >>What you installed is NOT the terminal server product. Good luck. >> >> >> >> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:11:14 -0600, Dale wrote: A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ I top posted because the previous person did. I didn't want someone to get a sore neck, like mine. :( I put that in my reply too. Also requested no flaming but . . . . . idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper package.* file. Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only use it when you understand those risks. He's new. He didn't know any better than to do just what he was told. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] permissions on ntfs partitions
Can anybody tell me if it is normal that files on ntfs partitions are executable by default when mounting them under linux ? Or is it possible that this has something to do with the following line from my fstab: /dev/hde1 /mnt/bill ntfs user,umask=,nls=utf8 0 0 Thanks, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote: > >A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ > I top posted because the previous person did. I didn't want someone to > get a sore neck, like mine. :( I put that in my reply too. Also > requested no flaming but . . . . . You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :) > >>idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper > >>package.* file. > >Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only > >use it when you understand those risks. > He's new. He didn't know any better than to do just what he was told. Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without suitable warnings. -- Neil Bothwick Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote: A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ I top posted because the previous person did. I didn't want someone to get a sore neck, like mine. :( I put that in my reply too. Also requested no flaming but . . . . . You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :) Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here. It's hard to tell from reading print though. Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without suitable warnings. We agree on that. Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what I have read. After all, there are better ways to do it. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] permissions on ntfs partitions
Matthias Langer wrote: Can anybody tell me if it is normal that files on ntfs partitions are executable by default when mounting them under linux ? Or is it possible that this has something to do with the following line from my fstab: /dev/hde1 /mnt/bill ntfs user,umask=,nls=utf8 0 0 Thanks, Matthias I'm not a windoze user but I can dig in a man page on occasion. This may help. I'm not sure though. noexec Do not allow direct execution of any binaries on the mounted file system. (Until recently it was possible to run binaries anyway using a command like /lib/ld*.so /mnt/binary. This trick fails since Linux 2.4.25 / 2.6.0.) I think you can put noexec in the options part of the fstab line to stop that. Oh man mount. Lots of options there. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] hardware tests
hi, not the gentoo question however i have box that is failing to work, constant reboots so there isn't way to install any OS. I was runing memtest86 from Knoppix without errors, is there any other programs to test different parts of hardware from knoppix, gentoo install cd or other bootable cd? martins -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 15:47:12 up 3:30, 5 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.16 pgpcL3fHMi3Pc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware tests
On 12/23/05, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > > not the gentoo question however i have box that is failing to work, constant > reboots so there isn't way to install any OS. I was runing memtest86 from > Knoppix without errors, is there any other programs to test different parts > of hardware from knoppix, gentoo install cd or other bootable cd? Yep, not a Gentoo question, but kinda related, if you can manage your computer to work properly, you can't install Gentoo, thus its a Gentoo problem ;) forget about that. Anyway, my favorite hardware failure tips: 1) Overheating (check fans, temperature, this includes MOBO, CPU, HD and Video card, memory too, because most of the other stuff doesn't heat that much). 2) Power supply, make sure your PS can provide what's necessary for your system, I've seen 600w (generic) PSs fail, then getting a good one solved. Remove some hardwarte (DVDs, CD-RWs) and see if that solves, if it does, change the PS. 3) Check (not necessarily in this order): MOBO, Processor, memory, video. (if you don't have the spares necessary, take it to someone you trust and can test the hardware). 4) Connections, check data and power cables, along with control leds and power/reset switches (I've seen a machine failt to boot because of the damn power LED). 5) Software is not a good way to test hardware (*IMHO*), the exceptions are memtest and some benchmarks. That was my $0.02. > > martins > -- > Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ > 15:47:12 up 3:30, 5 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.16 > > > -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware tests
On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 12/23/05, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi, not the gentoo question however i have box that is failing to work, constant reboots so there isn't way to install any OS. I was runing memtest86 from Knoppix without errors, is there any other programs to test different parts of hardware from knoppix, gentoo install cd or other bootable cd? in the old days of xt keyboards, if you plugged the keyboard in upside down, it would do this "crowbar" action. it shouldn't be possible to do that with a ps/2 keyboard, but. Yep, not a Gentoo question, but kinda related, if you can manage your computer to work properly, you can't install Gentoo, thus its a Gentoo problem ;) forget about that. Anyway, my favorite hardware failure tips: 1) Overheating (check fans, temperature, this includes MOBO, CPU, HD and Video card, memory too, because most of the other stuff doesn't heat that much). 2) Power supply, make sure your PS can provide what's necessary for your system, I've seen 600w (generic) PSs fail, then getting a good one solved. Remove some hardwarte (DVDs, CD-RWs) and see if that solves, if it does, change the PS. 3) Check (not necessarily in this order): MOBO, Processor, memory, video. (if you don't have the spares necessary, take it to someone you trust and can test the hardware). 4) Connections, check data and power cables, along with control leds and power/reset switches (I've seen a machine failt to boot because of the damn power LED). 5) Software is not a good way to test hardware (*IMHO*), the exceptions are memtest and some benchmarks. That was my $0.02. martins -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 15:47:12 up 3:30, 5 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.16 -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome won't start
I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs. Nothing in /var/log/messages. I'm not sure how to debug. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > genlop --list --date "$(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/^ > *\(.*\) >>>.*/\1/')" What is it supposed to do? Here it gets genlops usage message. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted? Do you mean run against / or what? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Matthias Bethke wrote: I got a Linux box for my mum as well after her Mac died, so I know it's near impossible to teach some people about folder structures :) I have taught a few computer classes and that is one of the things I emphasized, no matter what the operating system. I have a small 2 drawer filing cabinet with the folders labeled like the operating system lays them out (Windows is much harder to explain as the file browser is so weirdly layed out). Lots of apps don't use My Documents (or whatever Microsoft/Mac use now) as the default save folder. It seems to be a fairly hard concept for middle aged and above, unless they have previous experience in filing stuff in a file cabinet. They seem to ignore the prompts on where to save the file or have never bothered to configure the application for setting a default, but I have mostly managed to get the concept across. I have a Windows user that continually calls me for advise about buying computer stuff and he is scared stiff of Linux. He is upgrading his wife's computer (and ignored my advise, he ended up with a Gateway and only one IDE slot available for upgrading and all the video/audio built into the MOBO) and wanting to sell her old box. Since he has an ISDN connection and room on his router/modem, I suggested he keep it and build a Linux file server for both of them. Since he doesn't want to do that, I was thinking of trying to talk him down to a real low price (Pentium II, 330 Mhz 8.5 GB hard drive) and building me one! I have a cousin who is 82, and I think I have the concept across to him, but I think he has a harder time than seeing than I do (I have cataracts in both eyes) so has difficulty in seeing the prompts. I try to get them both to save the stuff they want to keep to a different drive/partition since re-installation of Windows is sometimes the only repair I have found that actually works. Neither one ever seems to remember what name it is or that they gave it, so the search feature isn't very good for them either. Naming files to a meaningful name and saving them where you know you can find them is pretty important IMHO, but Microsoft actually makes that pretty hard, especially with their e-mail client as it doesn't save it in a standard format and stores it in the operating system area as well as the default location. That is usually one of the things they wish to save as well. I attempt to solve this by getting them to create a "My E-mail" folder below the "My Documents" folder, or a folder on the other drive/partition if they have one. I am slowly getting one person used to Linux after they bought a Compaq and when it crashed and I couldn't recover anything with the CDs that came with it. They didn't want to call them as it was out of warranty and were unwilling to buy an OEM Windows install CD, so I installed Fedora Core 4 on it. It does everything (if I send them click by click instructions) except for a couple of web sites and run the Windows programs CDs they keep buying. (roll eyes emoticon here) Still, they continue to buy CDs that will only run in Windows/Mac for their young daughter. I guess I need to install wine on my box and see if they will run on that. I don't see how some folks can be more dense than I am as I have to take prednisone and morphine, two of the worst mind altering drugs I know of (and prednisone is the worst, the morphine just makes me drunk and clumsy). HTH -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
Oooh please, don't fight because of my dumb questions :'( Actually, vmware-linux-tools is already installed. I just asked this question to know a little more about portage usage and manipulation. I followed your advices and added vmware-linux-tools ~x86 to the /etc/portage/package.keywords et voilà :-) Indeed, I'm running Gentoo inside VMWare. At work, the laptops are installed with a Windows xp image and there is no support if the basic installation is removed. But as I am not able to live and work without any linux distrib, I install VMWare and install fedora for my first linux experience, and after one year, I try Gentoo with much pleasure but also many questions ;-) Thank you very much for your help :-) Etienne On Friday 23 December 2005 14:28, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>>A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ > >> > >>I top posted because the previous person did. I didn't want someone to > >>get a sore neck, like mine. :( I put that in my reply too. Also > >>requested no flaming but . . . . . > > > >You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :) > > Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here. It's hard to tell from > reading print though. > > >Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without > >suitable warnings. > > We agree on that. Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what > I have read. After all, there are better ways to do it. > > Dale > > :-) > > -- > To err is human, I'm most certainly human. > > I have four rigs: > > 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now > two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs > of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, > 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad > 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. > > All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are > set up as servers. -- Etienne Hilson Alcatel Bell SA Customer Support Department Namur Office : +32 81 23 56 01 Mobile : +32 478 96 04 69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unable to update openoffice from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
Compilation of openoffice abort with this message: packimages -- version: 1.12 packimages: ERROR: no such directory: '/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.1/work/ooo-build-2.0.1/build/ooa680-m1/ooo_custom_images/crystal' Since nobody else is complaining, I suppose it has to do with my configuration: ~# emerge -pv openoffice These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 [2.0.0] USE="+curl -eds -gnome +gtk +java -kde -ldap -mozilla +xml2 +zlib" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB ~# emerge info Portage 2.1_pre1 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r3, 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686) = System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre12 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r1 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo ft p://mirror.scarlet-internet.nl/pub/gentoo" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 3dnow X alsa apm audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr crypt cups curl encode exif expat ffmpeg flac foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib java jpeg lcms libg++ libwww mad mmx mng motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline recode scanner sdl slang spell sse ssl tcltk tc pd threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb vorbis xine xml2 xmms xv xvid zlib elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU" Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Any idea? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
Erm, by the way, what means "top posting" ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Phil Sexton wrote: Some stuff that wasn't grammatically correct... I hope that made a little sense, especially the non native English speakers. I see my pain med must be kicking in... -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome won't start
Check /var/log/gdm/:0.log. It should give you some useful info. On Friday 23 December 2005 10:02, a tiny voice compelled Kurt Guenther to write: > I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM > I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs. Nothing in > /var/log/messages. I'm not sure how to debug. > > --Kurt -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 11:08:36 up 3 days, 13 min, 4 users, load average: 0.44, 0.41, 0.32 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
We're not fighting . . . . YET. LOL Most have a sense of humor here. They have to when I am around. LOL Dale :-) Parden the top post. I'm breaking him in gently. It's better than I got when I first came here for sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oooh please, don't fight because of my dumb questions :'( Actually, vmware-linux-tools is already installed. I just asked this question to know a little more about portage usage and manipulation. I followed your advices and added vmware-linux-tools ~x86 to the /etc/portage/package.keywords et voilà :-) Indeed, I'm running Gentoo inside VMWare. At work, the laptops are installed with a Windows xp image and there is no support if the basic installation is removed. But as I am not able to live and work without any linux distrib, I install VMWare and install fedora for my first linux experience, and after one year, I try Gentoo with much pleasure but also many questions ;-) Thank you very much for your help :-) Etienne On Friday 23 December 2005 14:28, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote: A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/ I top posted because the previous person did. I didn't want someone to get a sore neck, like mine. :( I put that in my reply too. Also requested no flaming but . . . . . You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :) Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here. It's hard to tell from reading print though. Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without suitable warnings. We agree on that. Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what I have read. After all, there are better ways to do it. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
It means posting the answer here, which is not helpful to understanding if you don't know what the question is [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > Erm, by the way, what means "top posting" ? ...Instead of posting the answer here, which makes logical sense in relation to the question. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Gnome won't start
Ernie Schroder wrote: Check /var/log/gdm/:0.log. It should give you some useful info. On Friday 23 December 2005 10:02, a tiny voice compelled Kurt Guenther to write: I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs. Nothing in /var/log/messages. I'm not sure how to debug. --Kurt Thanks, I'll remember that one. It turned out to be the VMware workstation update. I just needed to run vmware-config.pl, and things started humming again. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
Hi guys, and Holly too, I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up. I was doing two at a time and one is faster then the other. I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them. I may have really messed up here. This is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # It doesn't matter what I tell it to do, I get that same error. I did a portage rescue but still no go. How do I fix this? It's a old AMD rig so I guess some x86 rescue tarball would work. If such a creature exists. I have been messing with this for a while. I'm going to nap a while. I'm tired and my neck is sore too. Thanks :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:07:37 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Erm, by the way, what means "top posting" ? A. Putting the reply ahead of the question Q. What is top-posting? -- Neil Bothwick I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:17:37 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted? > > Do you mean run against / or what? Against /var/db/pkg, where you'll find everything you have installed, complete with datestamps. See my first post in this thread. -- Neil Bothwick Never get into fights with ugly people because they have nothing to lose. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:15:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > genlop --list --date "$(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | > > sed 's/^ *\(.*\) >>>.*/\1/')" > > What is it supposed to do? Here it gets genlops usage message. you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against as an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear. -- Neil Bothwick We are THOR of Borg... your RFC compliant mailbox has been assimilated signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to update openoffice from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Compilation of openoffice abort with this message: > packimages -- version: 1.12 > packimages: ERROR: no such directory: > '/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.1/work/ooo-build-2.0.1/build/ooa680-m1/ooo_custom_images/crystal' > > Since nobody else is complaining, I suppose it has to do with my > configuration: The complaints are here, http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116432 where it is reported as fixed; sync again. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?
On 12/22/05, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:07:12PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote > > > Everything looks ok. Could you try: > > > > strace -f -o /tmp/strace.out ping -c 4 www.google.com > > I uncommented most of nscd.conf and rebooted, but still no luck. I > don't know the attachment policy here, so I'm putting the stack trace > (all 12 kbytes) on my webpage. Execute... > > wget www.waltdnes.org/strace.txt > > ...to have a look. It appears to be opening files all over the place. There is something strange here When I lookup "www.google.com", I get: carcharias ~ # host www.google.com www.google.com has address 66.102.7.104 carcharias ~ # host 66.102.7.104 104.7.102.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.google.com. However for www.google.com, you get 72.14.203.104. But that address doesn't resolve to a host name when I do a reverse lookup. carcharias ~ # host 72.14.203.104 104.203.14.72.in-addr.arpa has no PTR record If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some kind of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their servers. If that is the case, then it is also possible that they set the expire time on the DNS responses to expire immediately to prevent any local caching of the addresses. You might test with a less popular address, something that is unlikely to be cached/proxied by your ISP. Anyway nscd appears to be setup and working correctly. Ping connected to the nscd socket, and did not send any DNS queries directly. So your end looks like it is setup and working correctly. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 08:06 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > You can list all installed kde packages with > > qpkg -g kde-base > or > equery list | grep kde-base > For equery, you can use: equery list kde-base/ This tells equery to list the installed packages in category kde-base. The command will run faster as well since it is not processing the entire list of installed packages. If you don't want to see the fancy colored output then do: equery --quiet list kde-base/ | cat Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing
To Gentoo nVidia users: We are in the process of developing and testing a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented, it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and nvidia-settings ebuilds. It will also add the utility nvidia-xconfig. We would like your help in evaluating, testing, and commenting on this approach. Please locate the latest nvidia ebuild at: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116085 The download package for the new ebuild is at: http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=75389 This is the very latest nVidia 8178 driver. Please be sure and review the nVidia changelog and readme. If your fonts are abnormally small, see Appendix Y and the nVidia forums for info on DPI. See http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 for specific news and info about the nVidia drivers for linux. Since this is a developmental ebuild, it is NOT currently in portage. If you would like to try it out, please follow these simple instructions: 1) Untar the file into /usr/local/portage/x11-drivers (if your portage overlay is in a different location, adjust accordingly). 2) exit all window managers 3) unmerge nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and nvidia-settings (emerge -C .) This ebuild will NOT install if any other nVidia ebuilds are installed. 4) edit /etc/portage/package.keywords and add x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86 (or ~amd64). Other arches are not supported. Sorry. 5) emerge nvidia-drivers. This will load the kernel module, glx support, nvidia- settings and -xconfig all in one swoop. NOTE: Modular X support is not yet implemented. If you have comments, notice a bug, or if you have suggestions for improvement, PLEASE post to the existing bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116085. Please DO NOT report bugs about the upstream driver. If the driver does not work, then see the nVidia news forum. We hope you will find this approach a more streamlined and easy implementation for nVidia. Thanks for your participation and feedback. Peter Hyman on behalf of the nVidia devs. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:30:06 -0600, Paul Varner wrote: > For equery, you can use: > > equery list kde-base/ Aha! Nice one, I tried equery list kde-base but got nothing. It seems the trailing slash makes all the difference, having the same effect as qpkg's -g. You'll wean me off qpkg completely before long :) -- Neil Bothwick Do they have reserved parking for non-handicapped people at the Special Olympics? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] uninstall orphaned packages?
On 12/22/05, Roy Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'dev-db/mysqltool' has no ebuilds available > 'dev-java/htmlparser' has no ebuilds available > 'media-libs/divx4linux' has no ebuilds available > What I'm not sure about is how to check dependents and unmerge > the two orphans. Any ideas before I try some deep cleaning? They should still be in the package database, so just unmerge them as normal: unmerge dev-java/htmlparser unmerge media-libs/divx4linux Then rebuild any packages where the dependancies got broken: revdep-rebuild -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:15:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > genlop --list --date "$(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | >> > sed 's/^ *\(.*\) >>>.*/\1/')" >> >> What is it supposed to do? Here it gets genlops usage message. > > you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against as > an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear. Why would you trim off the date info? With your find approach, if the package has been uninstalled you'll find nothing. If you were wanting to know if some other behaviour could be dated to the uninstall of something it would be of no use. Genlop knows about that kind of stuff. The perl script searches from the front back and so has grabbed everthing since argument package. For example, if a package was installed and uninstalled several times it would still find the most recent and everything since. I didn't really test it much ... did you see something that would break it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?
Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under Xorg? Goal: Start X, do whatever - move to place more condusive to haveing an external mouse, as opposed to my track pad, Plug in the USB mouse, and Have it work without haveing to restart X. Problems: (As I see it) -Xorg only loads devices at startup. Hence new Pointers like my USBMouse aren't recognised. All my pointer work fine, just the way I want them to when I have every thing plugged in at Xorg startup. I cannot use /dev/input/mice, as that screws up the configs for the Mouse/Touchpad. Any Ideas anyone? -Lares -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?
> There is something strange here > > When I lookup "www.google.com", I get: > > carcharias ~ # host www.google.com > www.google.com has address 66.102.7.104 > carcharias ~ # host 66.102.7.104 > 104.7.102.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.google.com. > > However for www.google.com, you get 72.14.203.104. But that address > doesn't resolve to a host name when I do a reverse lookup. > > carcharias ~ # host 72.14.203.104 > 104.203.14.72.in-addr.arpa has no PTR record > > If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some kind > of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of > www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their > servers. > google.com isn't a good test case. They use some Really advanced load balancing/routing/ localization algorithism for their network. Best to use a smaller, single-homed Name for a test. -Lares -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?
On 12/23/05, Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under > Xorg? If you are using a 2.6 kernel, use /dev/input/mice as your input device, instead of whatever you are using now. You can use that as your only input device, or like me, configure it as an additional input device. The relevant sections of my xorg.conf are: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default" Screen 0 "LCD" 0 0 InputDevice"touchpad" "CorePointer" InputDevice"usbmouse" InputDevice"keyboard" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1" Option "Protocol" "event" Option "SHMConfig" "On" Option "LeftEdge" "1400" Option "TopEdge" "1550" Option "RightEdge" "5900" Option "BottomEdge" "4350" Option "EdgeMotionUseAlways" "On" Option "EdgeMotionMinZ" "75" Option "EdgeMotionMaxZ" "90" Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "50" Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "1000" Option "MinSpeed" "0.0" Option "MaxSpeed" "0.3" Option "AccelFactor" "0.3" Option "UpDownScrolling" "On" Option "LeftRightScrolling" "Off" Option "Buttons" "8" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "usbmouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Buttons" "8" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "SendCoreEvents" "On" EndSection The only tricky thing is that I have to make sure that my trackpad (a PS/2 mouse) gets setup by the kernel before the USB mouse. So I build PS/2 mouse support into my kernel, and load usbhid as a module. I also have hibernate reload the usbhid module when I do a suspend/stanby cycle. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors
Peter wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the license code. They haven't officially released the "Terminal Server" product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got is the "initial" release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality. We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product. With respect, "officially" Pro and Server are separate products--that is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 3.0) will only run Win9x. If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at "Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users Guide"--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information. http://www.win4lin.com/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,99/Itemid,145/ It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or other people having with it? Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow. You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages. Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5 is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly work right. Again read their forum pages. Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4 Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6 Good luck. Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't indicate whether it's Pro or Home. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?
Le 23 décembre à 19:19:47 Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment: | Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under | Xorg? > | Goal: | Start X, do whatever - move to place more condusive to haveing an | external mouse, as opposed to my track pad, Plug in the USB mouse, and | Have it work without haveing to restart X. > | Problems: (As I see it) | -Xorg only loads devices at startup. Hence new Pointers like my USBMouse | aren't recognised. > | All my pointer work fine, just the way I want them to when I have every | thing plugged in at Xorg startup. hotplug in the kernel: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y *and* emerge hotplug hth, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier |Cours Victor Hugo e-mots: jean at bornier.net|13980 Alleins France T 08 70 39 34 03 |P 06 09 17 35 87 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:09:47 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > genlop --list --date "$(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | > >> > sed 's/^ *\(.*\) >>>.*/\1/')" > >> > >> What is it supposed to do? Here it gets genlops usage message. > > > > you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against > > as an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear. > > Why would you trim off the date info? To pass to genlop with --date, in order to get a list of all packages installed after that date. > With your find approach, if the package has been uninstalled you'll > find nothing. Of course. The question was about finding all packages installed after a particular reference package, in this case gcc. If the reference package is no longer installed 9impossible with gcc of course) the question becomes pointless. > If you were wanting to know if some other behaviour could be dated to > the uninstall of something it would be of no use. It would, you'd only have to modify it to use genlop's -u option. All of this is irrelevant anyway, using genlop and parsing the output is going round three sides of a square instead of going in a straight line with find. Using a non-standard bash or perl script to parse the output of an optional perl script seems rather redundant when you can do it all with one call to a core command. -- Neil Bothwick After a few years in space, even Worf started to look good... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:19:47 -0700, Lares Moreau wrote: > Start X, do whatever - move to place more condusive to haveing an > external mouse, as opposed to my track pad, Plug in the USB mouse, and > Have it work without haveing to restart X. This works for me: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Trackpad" "CorePointer" InputDevice"USBMouse" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Trackpad" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Resolution" "64" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "USBMouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Resolution" "64" EndSection The trackpad works always, the mouse works when it is plugged in, even after starting X. -- Neil Bothwick I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
capsel wrote: > As I can see this is PHOTOPAINT, not DRAW. Is there any difference? Yep there is. Draw is used for Vector Graphics and Photopaint has its usage in its name ;) Greets Markus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
On 12/23/05, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, and Holly too, > > I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up. I was doing two at > a time and one is faster then the other. I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE > doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them. I may have really messed up here. > > This is what I get: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system > > /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-> You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems. Just copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage. You could also try symlinking .5 to .6. That is a trick that has worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware tests
On 12/23/05, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) Check (not necessarily in this order): MOBO, Processor, memory, > video. (if you don't have the spares necessary, take it to someone you > trust and can test the hardware). It sometimes isn't even necessary to swap out this hardware. You can usually go into the BIOS and adjust the memory timings and CPU speeds to identify the problem. For example, I just built an AMD x2 system. But I have had a lot of trouble getting the system stable. BIOS wouldn't even post with the first 2 sticks of RAM running at their rated timings of 2-3-2-6, but would post fine at 3-4-3-6. So I replaced those. Then I couldn't get a compile of ghostscript to complete without causing a kernel panic...so back into the BIOS I went. Eventually I reduced the CPU multiplier from x11 to x10 (2.2 to 2.0 Ghz), and everything compiled cleanly. So I exchanged that CPU, and emerge -e world worked at 2.2Ghz. Now I should say that the system was still unstable...getting a kernel panic every few hours. Actually, I can cause the kernel panic by saturating the SATA bandwidth (dd if=/dev/zero of=JUNKFILE bs=64k). So while the replacment hardware has helped, I am currently running it with the slow memory timings and the x10 multiplier. I haven't gotten back to testing the hardware again yet to figure out if the CPU or memory is still bad, or if the nvidia chipset in the shuttle XPC is crap, (which is what I truly suspect). > 5) Software is not a good way to test hardware (*IMHO*), the > exceptions are memtest and some benchmarks. IMO memtest is almost useless today. It can tell you if you have a bad memory cell, which is incredibly rare, but cannot identify the more common timing or chipset problems. "emerge -e world" seems to be the best way to identify faulty hardware! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
Richard Fish wrote: Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-> You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems. Just copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage. You could also try symlinking .5 to .6. That is a trick that has worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there. -Richard I'm going to give that a try. I looked on my old rig and it is in something like /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6. It didn't work then either. Maybe your way is the correct way. Some symlink thing or something. I have copies though. I have two installs, one up to date and one a few months old. It's funny that the new KDE won't let me copy over fish. I get a error message though. I have to login to KDE 3.4 to copy over files to my servers. Strange huh? Guess that is why it is masked. Guess it is why I'm not cleaning out KDE 3.4 too. Thanks for the help. It sort of sucks right now. :( Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:30:06 -0600, Paul Varner wrote: For equery, you can use: equery list kde-base/ Aha! Nice one, I tried equery list kde-base but got nothing. It seems the trailing slash makes all the difference, having the same effect as qpkg's -g. You'll wean me off qpkg completely before long :) THAT was cool. I can read man pages for something I need to know all day long and not get it. I can do it for someone else though and figure it out right away. I did that on my main rig and that / does make a huge difference. It made a VERY long list on my main rig here. I have KDE 3.4 and 3.5 installed still. Thanks again, Im learning. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system & world rebuild
Good evening all, 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system, followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually yields: //garbanzo/root # /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ... * [ !! ] No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the same. The following packages have been emerged since upgrading. Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005 >>> dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3 Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005 >>> sys-process/lsof-4.75 Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005 >>> app-admin/showconsole-1.07 Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005 >>> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12 Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005 >>> sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005 >>> net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of these have caused my problems. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, John pgpee3oHu3V2c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system & world rebuild
On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote: > Good evening all, > > 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used > gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system, > followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today > I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew > was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup > purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually > yields: > > //garbanzo/root # /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start > * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ... * [ !! ] > > No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in > /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the > same. > > The following packages have been emerged since upgrading. > > Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005 >>> dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3 > Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005 >>> sys-process/lsof-4.75 > Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005 >>> app-admin/showconsole-1.07 > Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005 >>> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12 > Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005 >>> sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 > Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005 >>> net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 > > I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of > these have caused my problems. > > Does anyone have any ideas? Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy. If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the initscript. > > Thanks, > John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
Use LD_PRELOAD get your missing lib and: gcc-config <# of version> fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version "LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3" BillK On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 16:25 -0600, Dale wrote: > Richard Fish wrote: > > > > >Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-> > > > >You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the > >Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems. Just > >copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage. > > > >You could also try symlinking .5 to .6. That is a trick that has > >worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there. > > > >-Richard > > > > > > > I'm going to give that a try. I looked on my old rig and it is in > something like /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6. It didn't work > then either. Maybe your way is the correct way. Some symlink thing or > something. I have copies though. I have two installs, one up to date > and one a few months old. > > It's funny that the new KDE won't let me copy over fish. I get a error > message though. I have to login to KDE 3.4 to copy over files to my > servers. Strange huh? Guess that is why it is masked. Guess it is why > I'm not cleaning out KDE 3.4 too. > > Thanks for the help. It sort of sucks right now. :( > > Dale > :-) > > -- > To err is human, I'm most certainly human. > > I have four rigs: > > 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now > two 80GB hard drives. > 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. > 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB > drive. > 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a > 4.3GB SCSI drive. > > All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set > up as servers. > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system & world rebuild
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:43:40PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote: > > Good evening all, > > > > 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used > > gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system, > > followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today > > I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew > > was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup > > purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually > > yields: > > > > //garbanzo/root # /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start > > * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ... * [ !! ] > > > > No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in > > /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the > > same. > > > > The following packages have been emerged since upgrading. > > > > Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005 >>> dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3 > > Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005 >>> sys-process/lsof-4.75 > > Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005 >>> app-admin/showconsole-1.07 > > Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005 >>> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12 > > Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005 >>> sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 > > Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005 >>> net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 > > > > I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of > > these have caused my problems. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy. > > If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the > initscript. Sorry, I should have stated that I've already done a depclean and revdep-rebuild. What is the correct syntax for starting manually? What should I be looking for? Thanks, John pgpWcNQzXv8SJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:26:30AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote > If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some > kind of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of > www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their > servers. > > If that is the case, then it is also possible that they set the > expire time on the DNS responses to expire immediately to prevent > any local caching of the addresses. Probably some load-balancing "magic" by Google... Searching for 72.14.203.104 in whois.arin.net OrgName:Google Inc. OrgID: GOGL Address:1600 Amphitheatre Parkway City: Mountain View StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94043 Country:US NetRange: 72.14.192.0 - 72.14.239.255 CIDR: 72.14.192.0/19, 72.14.224.0/20 NetName:GOOGLE NetHandle: NET-72-14-192-0-1 Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0 NetType:Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.GOOGLE.COM NameServer: NS2.GOOGLE.COM Comment: RegDate:2004-11-10 Updated:2005-07-01 > You might test with a less popular address, something that is unlikely > to be cached/proxied by your ISP. > > Anyway nscd appears to be setup and working correctly. Ping connected > to the nscd socket, and did not send any DNS queries directly. So > your end looks like it is setup and working correctly. More proof that it "works"... I tried connecting to a Yahoo forum, and got a negative response for messages.yahoo.com on the first try. The "negative cache" feature certainly "worked". Several retries failed as well. I set "negative-time-to-live hosts 2" and re-started nscd, and the forum now works. I'm obviously able to specify a shorter negative cache time. Is there any way for nscd to over-ride the maximum TTL from the DNS server for a positive hit? On a more positive note, ZDNet forums seem much snappier now. They've been slow in the past, 3 megabits ADSL notwithstanding. -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system & world rebuild
On Friday 23 December 2005 19:38, John J. Foster wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:43:40PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote: > > > Good evening all, > > > > > > 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used > > > gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev > > > system, followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I > > > thought. Today I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The > > > only reason I knew was because my wife uses this box to store her sent > > > mail for backup purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to > > > start it manually yields: > > > > > > //garbanzo/root # /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start > > > * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ... * [ !! ] > > > > > > No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files > > > in /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the > > > same. > > > > > > The following packages have been emerged since upgrading. > > > > > > Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005 >>> dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3 > > > Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005 >>> sys-process/lsof-4.75 > > > Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005 >>> app-admin/showconsole-1.07 > > > Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005 >>> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12 > > > Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005 >>> sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 > > > Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005 >>> net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 > > > > > > I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of > > > these have caused my problems. > > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy. > > > > If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the > > initscript. > > Sorry, I should have stated that I've already done a depclean and > revdep-rebuild. > > What is the correct syntax for starting manually? What should I be > looking for? I've never used courier/imap, but if you look in the init file (in /etc/init.d/ ) in the start() function, you should see the command it runs. Try running that on the command line > > Thanks, > John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all. Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
William Kenworthy wrote: Use LD_PRELOAD get your missing lib and: gcc-config <# of version> fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version "LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3" BillK That didn't work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version -bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I'm not sure what happened there. I'm about to copy some filesover now to see if it will work. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:20, Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > >Use LD_PRELOAD > > > >get your missing lib and: > > > >gcc-config <# of version> > >fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version > >"LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3" > > > >BillK > > That didn't work. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version > > -bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtool_files.sh > > I'm not sure what happened there. I'm about to copy some filesover now > to see if it will work. > > Dale > > :-) > > -- > To err is human, I'm most certainly human. > > I have four rigs: > > 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now > two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs > of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, > 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad > 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. > > All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are > set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
Dan Meltzer wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:20, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: Use LD_PRELOAD get your missing lib and: gcc-config <# of version> fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version "LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3" BillK That didn't work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version -bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtool_files.sh I'm not sure what happened there. I'm about to copy some filesover now to see if it will work. Dale :-) Typo ??? Anyway, I copied the file and one link over and it is working, at least I can emerge anyway. I did a emerge -ev system. See what that breaks. LOL [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtool_files.sh -bash: fix_libtool_files.sh: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I dunno. o_O Maybe I borked a lot more than I thought. It compiling now though. Thanks Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 10:51 -0600, Dale wrote: > Hi guys, and Holly too, > > I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up. I was doing two at > a time and one is faster then the other. I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE > doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them. I may have really messed up here. > > This is what I get: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system > > /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # > > > It doesn't matter what I tell it to do, I get that same error. I did a > portage rescue but still no go. How do I fix this? It's a old AMD rig > so I guess some x86 rescue tarball would work. If such a creature exists. > > I have been messing with this for a while. I'm going to nap a while. > I'm tired and my neck is sore too. > > Thanks > > :-) I might be easier to just backup all your Data, configs and other Info, and rebuild from scratch. Next quickpkg it from one server to the others if the Rigs are identical. -Lares -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote: > Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Thanks! Blessed Solstice to All! (A bit late...) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote: > > Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! > > Thanks! > > Blessed Solstice to All! > (A bit late...) And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! > > -- > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.
Lares Moreau wrote: I might be easier to just backup all your Data, configs and other Info, and rebuild from scratch. Next quickpkg it from one server to the others if the Rigs are identical. -Lares Oh dear. That sounds like windoze. LOL I have four computers here and one of them has two versions of Gentoo, one new and one a few months old. I just copied the files over that it needed and it is doing a emerge -ev system at the moment. I'm hoping that will fix what I messed up. I'm pretty sure it will though. For the record though. The file is a link to another file. You have to copy them both over at the same time or copy the file then the link to it. That is a sure fix but I don't want to loose the foldingathome data that I have. In the past when I copy it over to another rig, it never works right until I re-install folding. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] adsl-usb-modem question
Hi, I am installing an adsl-usb-modem (conexant chipset). I have some questions about: (1) what is the interface nas0 and does it have anithing to do with gentoo or with the modem? (2) item (1) with sit0 (3) An installation script ask me to enter the ethernet inerface connected to the adsl modem, but the modem is usb, so, which interface is supposed to be? (here i put "nas0" but then the error "nas0: unknown interface: No such device" is output) (4) If i fail to install the modem, i wanted to know if anybody would like to help me (through telnet) to install it (hopefully, the best option to me). There is very little (and poor) doc about the installation of this modem on linux, so almost everything is very obscure to me. Thanks for answers and/or suggestions (even though they are little ones). Marry Christmas! Bye -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] adsl-usb-modem question
Hi, I am installing an adsl-usb-modem (conexant chipset). I have some questions about: (1) what is the interface nas0 and does it have anithing to do with gentoo or with the modem? (2) item (1) with sit0 (3) An installation script ask me to enter the ethernet inerface connected to the adsl modem, but the modem is usb, so, which interface is supposed to be? (here i put "nas0" but then the error "nas0: unknown interface: No such device" is output) (4) If i fail to install the modem, i wanted to know if anybody would like to help me (through telnet) to install it (hopefully, the best option to me). There is very little (and poor) doc about the installation of this modem on linux, so almost everything is very obscure to me. Thanks for answers and/or suggestions (even though they are little ones). Marry Christmas! Bye -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
