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Re: [geo] Re: Ocean heat is off the charts—here's what that means for humans and ecosystems around the world

2023-06-27 Thread Dr. Maiken Winter

t-term and long-term restoration of this
metabolism. It seems necessary to start with both: short- and
long-terme restoration measures. There are some tools as short term
measures in the engineers toolbox which might find use in said
restoration work. Some others of the advertised solutions might worsen
the problem.

But to do the necessary research, lab and field-testing needs money.
Governments, politicans and even the Green have ignored the problem.
Since more than 20 years we developed models and measures for this
purpose but got only little help by private sponsors not any help from
government or parties. To my opinion the politicans will ask and pay
for solutions not before the water level will have risen enough until
the streets of coastal towns become flooded.

As you see, education and information of the broad level of the
population, journalists, politicans and even of the scientific
community is an necessity. Any sticking of yourself and your friends
on the streets will not solve the problem

Franz Dietrich Oeste
gM-Ingenieurbuero

Am 26.06.2023 um 20:45 schrieb Maiken Winter:

Hi dear all,
may I ask you... since all the writing and talking didn't help and we
are now close to the irreversible tipping points we know about for
years...what's your opinion about Science Rebellion and the Last
Generation? Do you consider to also become part of this movement (as
I am)?
It's horrible that we are so far into this catastrophe that even I
blockade streets.

Best,
Maiken
Ron Baiman hat am 26.06.2023 18:28 CEST
geschrieben:
Thank you Renaud! I hope you don't mind my distributing this more
broadly as I think it's quite important!

Best,
Ron

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:27 AM Renaud de RICHTER
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https://phys.org/news/2023-06-ocean-chartshere-humans-ecosystems-world.html

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Re: [geo] Re: Ocean heat is off the charts—here's what that means for humans and ecosystems around the world

2023-06-26 Thread Maiken Winter

Hi dear all,

may I ask you... since all the writing and talking didn't help and we are now close to the irreversible tipping points we know about for years...what's your opinion about Science Rebellion and the Last Generation? Do you consider to also become part of this movement (as I am)?

It's horrible that we are so far into this catastrophe that even I blockade streets.

Best,

Maiken

Ron Baiman hat am 26.06.2023 18:28 CEST geschrieben:

Thank you Renaud! I hope you don't mind my distributing this more broadly as I think it's quite important!

Best,

Ron

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:27 AM Renaud de RICHTER wrote:

https://phys.org/news/2023-06-ocean-chartshere-humans-ecosystems-world.html

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Re: [geo] SATAN

2023-03-05 Thread Dr. Maiken Winter

I think it would be extremely important that we do not repeat that bad
press of people who do not understand the urgency or do not want to
understand the urgency. People have different approaches to try to safe
humanity. Some speak and write a lot, some demonstrate, some glue
themselves. We need all of them. And we all need to stand up together
and defend our backs against the majority of stupidity.

I think it is awful, not timely and not understandable when climate
scientists repeat the bad press against the last generation. I though
you understood the urgency, no?

Actually, here in Germany the press is becoming more and more positive.
People don´t like it, but they start to understand.

They don´t need to be liked. They need to be understood. And they need
the focus on the urgency. If people like you just repeat the bad press,
then of course things look quite dire for their movement. Do you want that?

Maiken

Am 06.03.2023 um 05:52 schrieb David desJardins:
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:43 PM Tamas Bodai
wrote:

I totally get the idea behind gluing yourself to famous paintings.
It’s the grotesque situation that we value paint on canvas in
millions (of dollars, of course), while we head to extinction.
Reading such articles on BBC again and again really made me think.
I would glue myself to a painting too if i didn’t fear my career
would go bust. Call me an idiot, Sir. You say that most people
react negatively to such a move. But it’s just your pronunciation
not a fact.

I think it’s pretty undeniable that people gluing themselves to
paintings have made the general public less sympathetic to their
cause. Does anyone really question that??

It sounds like you already agreed with the cause so you can’t use
yourself as a person who was converted to the cause by others gluing
themselves to paintings. I think there are basically zero such people.

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Re: [geo] Economic interests and ideologies behind solar geoengineering research in the United States

2022-11-01 Thread Dr. Maiken Winter

Thanks for the clarficiation!

Such a weird difficult time right now. Sometiems it´s hard to keep track
of what is right and wrong.

Best,

Maiken

Am 31.10.2022 um 18:59 schrieb Daniele Visioni:

Dear Maiken,

I can’t but give you my personal opinion: the people who wrote in the
blog have constantly demanded that governments and public research
institutions not fund research into geoengineering at all.
That’s the whole goal of the website on which the article is hosted
(they also demand that the IPCC should self-censor itself on the
topic, and that researchers should lose their job over their research.
It’s in the letter hosted on the website and you can look it up). With
that in mind, the authors move to accuse researchers of shady goals
not because that’s what they say or state publicly or privately, but
because they take funding for their research from sources the two
authors see as having those goals in mind. You can see the trap for
yourself.
If you want to hear directly from the researchers, you can find a
couple of opinion pieces I have been involved in (many more can be
found around from different sets of researchers).

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/559859-climate-engineering-research-is-essential-to-a-just-transition-and/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221209632100053X

Best,
Daniele

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Re: [geo] Economic interests and ideologies behind solar geoengineering research in the United States

2022-10-31 Thread Dr. Maiken Winter

ow 
we can transform and decolonize this relationship to make it just and 
sustainable. He is co-editor, with Holly Jean Buck and Andreas Malm, 
of /Has It Come to This? Promises and Perils of Geoengineering on the 
Brink/ 
<https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/has-it-come-to-this/9781978809352> (Rutgers 
University Press, 2020).




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Re: [geo] Climate Expert: Stop Talking About "Geoengineering"

2021-11-21 Thread Dr. Maiken Winter

able early science was positioned as a moment
for a societal decision about research in this category. The testing
they proposed wouldn't have had any environmental impact or impact on
people. So the basis for the decision was not scientific; it was
really about a small set of people's opinions about whether or not
this kind of research should go forward. While the intentions were
good, they inadvertently set up an undemocratic situation where a very
tiny group of people are deciding whether scientific information would
be available for everybody else.

We think that scientific independence and integrity is really
important, especially in this research. We need scientists doing
independent science, and when they have generated a lot of information
for people around the world to review, we then need the societal
moment where everybody can weigh in.

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Re: [geo] Exploration of a novel geoengineering solution: lighting up tropical forests at night

2021-11-10 Thread Maiken Winter

Dear geoengineers,
I have been a quiet reader of this listserv for years. I am not an expert. And 
I am deeply concerned about the developments going on in our climate and 
natural systems.
But seriously? Are we now thinking about lightening up forests? What effects 
would that have on animals in those forests? Are there studies about that?
Are we willing to do anything to save humanity - which seems just to not want 
to be saved? Shouldn´t any geoengineering suggestions always be coupled with 
the demand to seriously step on the brakes, stop our believe in eternal growth 
and call for an immidiate moratorium in our collective overconsumption of about 
everything? Instead, we are happy that transcontinental flights are finally 
resuming, that new streets are being built to reduce traffic jams, that great 
big representative buildings are being built ... Most people are still in a 
completely wrong, self-destroying mindset. If we cannot change that, then I 
doubt that geoengineering can safe us, because we will destroy other 
life-supporting systems as well - such as intact ecosystems.
Thanks for your insights,
Best,
Maiken
http://www.wissenleben.de

> On 10/11/2021 07:54 Geoeng Info  wrote:
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> https://esd.copernicus.org/preprints/esd-2021-85/
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> Exploration of a novel geoengineering solution: lighting up tropical forests 
> at night
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> Xueyuan Gao, Shunlin Liang, Dongdong Wang, Yan Li, Bin He, Aolin Jia
> 
> Abstract. 
> 
> Plants primarily conduct photosynthesis in the daytime, offering an 
> opportunity to increase photosynthesis and carbon sink by providing light at 
> night. We used a fully coupled Earth System Model to quantify the carbon 
> sequestration and climate effects of a novel carbon removal proposal: 
> lighting up tropical forests at night via lamp networks above the forest 
> canopy. Simulation results show that additional light increased tropical 
> forest carbon sink by 10.4 ± 0.05 petagrams of carbon per year during a 
> 16-year lighting experiment, resulting in a decrease in atmospheric CO2 and 
> suppression of global warming. In addition, local temperature and 
> precipitation increased. The energy requirement for capturing one ton of 
> carbon is lower than that of Direct Air Carbon Capture. When the lighting 
> experiment was terminated, tropical forests started to release carbon slowly. 
> This study suggests that lighting up tropical forests at night could be an 
> emergency solution to climate change, and carbon removal actions focused on 
> enhancing ecosystem productivity by altering environmental factors in the 
> short term could induce post-action CO2 outgassing.
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Re: [geo] Re: Ocean heat is off the charts—here's what that means for humans and ecosystems around the world

Re: [geo] Re: Ocean heat is off the charts—here's what that means for humans and ecosystems around the world

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