Re: [Gegl-developer] Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Michael Schumacher wrote:
Daniel Rogers wrote:
To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of 
directors.
Might be an important question: does one have to live in the US to be 
able to become a director? (and/or president, secreatary, treasurer, ...)
No. For example, several of the GNOME Foundation board members are not in the US.

Cheers,
Dave.
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[Gimp-developer] Extending Image and Layer Properties (was: Image Info Dialog)

2004-04-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Sven Neumann wrote:
There is also a plan for adding an Image Attributes or Image
Properties dialog and extending the already existing Layer
Attributes (and similar) dialogs. A prerequisite for this is to make
all this stuff object properties. This is a nice task for a volunteer
who wants to get into GIMP core hacking. Let me know if you are
interested...
What stuff, exactly?

And for informational purposes, what's involved (in general) in converting a 
type object attribute to a generic GObject attribute? A link to a decent doc 
would probably do, if you had one handy.

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Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Extending Image and Layer Properties

2004-04-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  There is also a plan for adding an Image Attributes or Image
  Properties dialog and extending the already existing Layer
  Attributes (and similar) dialogs. A prerequisite for this is to make
  all this stuff object properties. This is a nice task for a volunteer
  who wants to get into GIMP core hacking. Let me know if you are
  interested...
 
 What stuff, exactly?

Well, all the information that belongs to a drawable and/or image
object should be object properties. This would be width, height, mode
(RGB/Gray/Indexed), unit ... Having this information accessible (at
least readable) via the GObject property system will make it a lot
easier to write a more or less generic property dialog.
 
 And for informational purposes, what's involved (in general) in
 converting a type object attribute to a generic GObject attribute? A
 link to a decent doc would probably do, if you had one handy.

A must-read for every core GIMP hacker:

 http://le-hacker.org/papers/gobject/

The GIMP source code is a good example also. Check the app/config
directory for a couple of classes that basically do no nothing but
storing information as object properties.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gobject properties

2004-04-30 Thread Øyvind Kolås
* Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040430 12:17]:
 Well, all the information that belongs to a drawable and/or image
 object should be object properties. This would be width, height, mode
 (RGB/Gray/Indexed), unit ... Having this information accessible (at
 least readable) via the GObject property system will make it a lot
 easier to write a more or less generic property dialog.
  
  And for informational purposes, what's involved (in general) in
  converting a type object attribute to a generic GObject attribute? A
  link to a decent doc would probably do, if you had one handy.
 
 A must-read for every core GIMP hacker:
 
  http://le-hacker.org/papers/gobject/

The parameters to GEGL filters, ops etc. will also be gobject properties,
this makes it much easier not only to automatically create UI's, but also
to dynamically add functionality, since the api provided can be queried
at run-time.

If GEGL Op's are to be the new default way of adding most plug-ins, most
of the dialog code will probably disapperar,. or be a special case,.
where a default ui that is a list of properties with the appropriate
widgets for changing color, browsing for a file, selecting a drawable
etc. can be defined.

/Øyvind K.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Why is there 2 cascaded input devices menus ?

2004-04-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Why is there a 2 level menu for the input devices:
  File - Preferences - Input Devices
  then Configure extended input devices (not other choice possible)
  
  Maybe configute extended input devices should me moves to the parent  
  menu?
  
 this assumes there will only be one sort of device.
 
 i think scanner is a potential input device also, it is just not
 considered so by gimp because of the different project.

No, a scanner is not considered an input device, it's probably an
input source. Input device is used in the GTK+ meaning here which
clearly refers to a device that gives coordinate input. 


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Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-30 Thread Michael Schumacher
Carol Spears wrote:
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 09:44:49AM +0200,  Marc A. Lehmann  wrote:

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 08:00:17PM -0700, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've put it here: http://www.phasevelocity.org/bylaws.doc  These bylaws 
Woaw, the bylaws for a free software organisation, written in a
proprietary microsoft format!
this summed up my feelings very well.
Might be another reason for lack of feedback.

did they discuss file formats with you when you discussed this at the
gimp convention?
Maybe something about this is in the minutes of the last GIMPCon.
Anyway, are there any suggestions (or requirements?) for an official 
format for all TGF documents. PDF seems reasonable.

HTH,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-developer] OpenGL under GIMP ??

2004-04-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Hi,

 Pablo Quinta Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  This is my first post to the list and I want to know if its possible
  to use OpenGL under GIMP.

 GIMP doesn't use OpenGL but of course a GIMP plug-in can use whatever
 library it wants to use as long as it's possible to integrate it with
 the GLib main loop.

Try GtkGLExt.  It's at http://gtkglext.sourceforge.net

Rockwalrus

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Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-30 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Carol Spears wrote:

On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 09:44:49AM +0200,  Marc A. Lehmann  wrote:

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 08:00:17PM -0700, Daniel Rogers 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've put it here: http://www.phasevelocity.org/bylaws.doc  These bylaws 


Woaw, the bylaws for a free software organisation, written in a
proprietary microsoft format!
this summed up my feelings very well.


Might be another reason for lack of feedback.
Dude.  The lawyer gave me doc.  Open office read it fine.  I didn't 
think it woudl be a problem.  I used open office to make a pdf.  It's at 
http://www.phasevelocity.org/bylaws.pdf

did they discuss file formats with you when you discussed this at the
gimp convention?


Maybe something about this is in the minutes of the last GIMPCon.
Anyway, are there any suggestions (or requirements?) for an official 
format for all TGF documents. PDF seems reasonable.
She is just trying to goad me, so I tried to ignore her.  It is not an 
official document yet, but yes, I agree that PDF is reasonable for all 
TGF documents.

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