Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 splash screen

2006-12-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 12/13/06, Jakub Steiner wrote:
 Howdy folks,
 as the release approaches, I'd like to propose a default splash screen
 for 2.4. It's 99.9% work of Paul Davey of Gant* fame. It's both polished
 and not super-serious at the same time.

So, no contest this time? :)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

I am picking up on a mail that is more than a month old, but the issue
is still unresolved. Let me bring it to your attention again.

On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 21:59 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:

   That brings up another showstopper for 2.4 that is missing from the list
   I posted earlier. We need to check if the new print plug-in is ready for
   release. Since I don't use GTK+ 2.10 yet, I didn't get a chance to have
   a look at it yet.
  
  What requirements should be met by this plug-in to consider it ready
  for release?
 
 It should at least do the basic things right. In other words, print a
 single image, allowing the user to specify the size and location on
 paper. Should probably default to the original size (determined by the
 image resolution) if that fits to the printable area. Otherwise it
 should scale the image down while preserving the aspect ratio.
 
 For this plug-in I think we should focus on keeping it simple. Enough to
 fulfill basic printing needs but still usable without reading a manual.
 People who need more control can always install the gutenprint plug-in. 

Has anyone done this evaluation? If not, can someone please volunteer to
do it? We need to find out if we can we ship the plug-in as is or if
there are issues that need to be addressed before 2.4.


Sven


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[Gimp-developer] string freeze for 2.4

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

if we want to get 2.4 out soon, and I think that's our intention, then
we need to enter string freeze at some point. I'd like to suggest that
we go into a tentative string freeze right now. That means that no
string changes are allowed unless they fix bugs. A misspelled or
grammatically incorrect string is considered a bug and can of course be
fixed. But we should give the translators a chance to start working on
the message catalogs for 2.4. It's not a strict freeze yet, we don't
guarantee that all messages are fixed for 2.4, but there should only be
minor changes and additions from this point.

Before I can announce this on the gnome-i18n list, we should address
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141443. This means someone
should go over the gimp-tips and check that they are all correct and
useful for GIMP 2.4.

If you feel that it's too early for a string freeze or have larger
string changes pending, speak up now!


Sven



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Save for Web plug-in

2006-12-18 Thread cedric GEMY
Really Cool,
i would be to add this in official version :-P

i just think it would be better to display optimized file infos (files 
size...) just below the optimized preview.

To improve compression evaluation, it could also be nice to display 
original file infos under the left preview.

What do you think of this ?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] string freeze for 2.4

2006-12-18 Thread peter sikking
Sven wrote:

 If you feel that it's too early for a string freeze or have larger
 string changes pending, speak up now!

If you want me to sort out and simplify the crop and
selection options berfore christmas, then I need the freedom
to change any string displayed there.

 --ps

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 man + machine interface works

 http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture



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Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-12-18 Thread Akkana Peck
Sven Neumann writes:
That brings up another showstopper for 2.4 that is missing from the list
I posted earlier. We need to check if the new print plug-in is ready for
release. Since I don't use GTK+ 2.10 yet, I didn't get a chance to have
a look at it yet.
[ ... ]
  It should at least do the basic things right. In other words, print a
  single image, allowing the user to specify the size and location on
  paper. Should probably default to the original size (determined by the
  image resolution) if that fits to the printable area. Otherwise it
  should scale the image down while preserving the aspect ratio.
  
  For this plug-in I think we should focus on keeping it simple. Enough to
  fulfill basic printing needs but still usable without reading a manual.
  People who need more control can always install the gutenprint plug-in. 
 
 Has anyone done this evaluation? If not, can someone please volunteer to
 do it? We need to find out if we can we ship the plug-in as is or if
 there are issues that need to be addressed before 2.4.

I just upgraded to a distro that has gtk 2.10, so I can do
the evaluation -- though for my own use I'm fairly happy with
gimp-print/gutenprint.

I just tried the print plug-in in current CVS. This is the first time
I've actually seen it, and I'm happy to see that there's a gnomeprint
dialog now that lets me set printer parameters. But I found quite a
few problems, and ultimately wasn't able to print anything with it:

- Bug: the Layout tab comes up with a unit of Inches, but Width and
  Height which are the pixel dimensions of the image. I hate to
  think what it would do if I let it print at 1160 inches wide.

- The Layout tab is really difficult to use compared to gimp-print,
  because it has no live preview. I have to click on the Page Setup
  button (why isn't that right in the Layout tab?) then try to guess
  what it means by Portrait, Reverse Landscape, etc. and what it
  will do for margins (does it always center, or what?)

- Minor Bug: the Page Setup dialog came up with the wrong paper size
  (A4 vs. my system default of Letter).

- UI issue: there's a Page Setup tab, plus a Page Setup button in
  the Layout tab which has a completely different function.
  Shouldn't one of these be renamed? (Moving the Page Setup button/
  dialog options into the Layout tab and eliminating the dialog
  would solve this.)

- There doesn't seem to be any way to position an image on the page,
  so this dialog doesn't replace gimp-print for functions like
  printing out my holiday cards, where I have to print to the
  lower half of a page which will then be folded over.

- When I try to change the Width in inches to 4, as soon as I
  leave the Width field it reverts to the old value of pixel width.
  So I can't actually try printing anything to check the quality.

- When I click Print Preview, the dialog disappears and I get a
  GIMP Message dialog with a nice clear error message:
Procedure 'gimp-image-set-unit' has been called with value
'pixels' for argument 'unit' (#2, type GimpUnit).
This value is out of range.

-- 
...Akkana
Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional: http://gimpbook.com
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Re: [Gimp-developer] string freeze for 2.4

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 23:26 +0100, peter sikking wrote:

  If you feel that it's too early for a string freeze or have larger
  string changes pending, speak up now!
 
 If you want me to sort out and simplify the crop and
 selection options berfore christmas, then I need the freedom
 to change any string displayed there.

I mentioned that string changes that fix bugs are fine, didn't I?

We are not in a strict string freeze yet. But I want to give the
translators a chance to start translating for 2.4 now. It's OK if some
strings still change and a few new ones are added.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

thanks for looking at the plug-in. It would help a lot if we could split
your list into problems of the Print plug-in and problems of the
GtkPrint API. The latter would have to be reported against GTK+.


Sven


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