Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread scl



On  28.12.2015 at 11:01 AM Su V wrote:

On 2015-12-28 10:19 (+0100), scl wrote:

1. The GIMP build comes with the G'Mic plug-in.
Sadly it is crashing. I suddenly get the message:


The official app bundle for GIMP 2.8.16 from wgo does not include the
G'Mic plug-in.


Thanks for this hint. I checked back and indeed, the G'Mic plug-in
was a leftover from a former G'Mic test on my own system.
Sorry for the confusion.

Sven

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[Gimp-developer] No nightly Windows builds anymore?

2015-12-28 Thread scl

Hi,

I tried to download Drawoc's Windows nightly builds of
GIMP master. Neither 32 nor 64 bit builds are to find
at the darkrefraction site anymore. Is there a chance
to see them back in the future?
Will the Windows nightlies and the official Windows build
be unified at some day?

Thanks in advance & greetings

Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:19 PM, scl wrote:

> How about mentioning the patched and extended builds of other eager
> contributors like Partha and skl or even Gimp Paint Studio and
> CinePaint in a separate fork section of the Download page?

The general agreement in the team is that we don't feel comfortable
promoting builds whose packagers do not provide information about
changes they introduced (if any). To make this more transparent for
the community, we are preparing a document on packaging requirements
that we'd like (but don't demand) GIMP packagers to meet.

GIMP Paint Studio is currently unmaintained.

Cinepaint is an inactive project.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Stock Windows and OS X builds of GIMP 2.9.2?

2015-12-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, scl wrote:

> Is there anything I am missing and if yes, where I can I find 2.9.2
> builds? I don't want to start the hassle of building them all again on my
> own.

Hi Sven,

These builds are not available yet.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread scl

Hi

Kristian, thank you for stepping in and making an OS X build!
Especially the DMG creation command and fixing some of the
nasty Poppler and DBus problems are impressing me.

You asked for testers and here are some of my test results:

1. The GIMP build comes with the G'Mic plug-in.
Sadly it is crashing. I suddenly get the message:

"Plug-in crashed: "gmic_gimp"
(/Users/$my_user_name/Library/Application 
Support/GIMP/2.8/plug-ins/gmic_gimp)


The dying plug-in may have messed up GIMP's internal state. You may want 
to save your images and restart GIMP to be on the safe side."


Including this plug-in is well-meaning but I think it's a pitfall
for the GIMP team because users might think it would be part of
GIMP and therefore report G'Mic bugs to the GIMP team instead to
the G'Mic people.
Avoiding this was the reason I made a stock build of GIMP 2.8.14 with
no extra plug-ins.

2. Is this build with the latest dependency versions?

3. To be honest and fair it would be good to name Kristian as the
creator of the 2.8.16 build on the download page and not me anymore
for the older build.
How about mentioning the patched and extended builds of other eager
contributors like Partha and skl or even Gimp Paint Studio and
CinePaint in a separate fork section of the Download page?

If I find more I'll try to report to Bugzilla.

Anyway, I know how hard it is and how much time it takes to provide
a working OS X build - thanks for your work!

Greetings

Sven




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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread su_v
On 2015-12-28 10:19 (+0100), scl wrote:
> 1. The GIMP build comes with the G'Mic plug-in.
> Sadly it is crashing. I suddenly get the message:

The official app bundle for GIMP 2.8.16 from wgo does not include the
G'Mic plug-in.


Regards, V
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP can't find libmypaint-gegl

2015-12-28 Thread scl

Hi,

I'm facing the same problem when trying to build GIMP with Sam's
portable environment Vagrant VM.
Just FYI the issue is already reported to Sam's Github repo.

Have all a happy new year ;-)

Greetings

Sven
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[Gimp-developer] Stock Windows and OS X builds of GIMP 2.9.2?

2015-12-28 Thread scl

Hi

seeing the GIMP team making a 2.9. release was a nice surprise
to me - my congratulations for taking this step!

I tried to download 2.9.2. builds for Windows and OS X, but however
I could not find one. The only thing I found was a master OS X build
from partha.com, but with many plugins, so I could not test the
vanilla stock build (anyway, thanks Partha!).
For Windows I couldn't find no build at all.
Is there anything I am missing and if yes, where I can I find 2.9.2
builds? I don't want to start the hassle of building them all again on 
my own.


Thank you in advance,

Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread Partha Bagchi
Hi Alex,

While I am not against your policy, this is first I am hearing about
this agreement. Of course this may have been a verbal agreement within
the team.

Anyway, I am happy to provide any information the team needs about my builds.

Note that I provide my builds as a community service without asking
for any remuneration whatsoever in return.

Thanks,
Partha

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:19 PM, scl wrote:
>
>> How about mentioning the patched and extended builds of other eager
>> contributors like Partha and skl or even Gimp Paint Studio and
>> CinePaint in a separate fork section of the Download page?
>
> The general agreement in the team is that we don't feel comfortable
> promoting builds whose packagers do not provide information about
> changes they introduced (if any). To make this more transparent for
> the community, we are preparing a document on packaging requirements
> that we'd like (but don't demand) GIMP packagers to meet.
>
> GIMP Paint Studio is currently unmaintained.
>
> Cinepaint is an inactive project.
>
> Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Stock Windows and OS X builds of GIMP 2.9.2?

2015-12-28 Thread Partha Bagchi
Hi Sven,

I am providing G'MIC and UFRaw. If you don't want these plugins, you
can delete them and then you should have "stock" OSX build :)

Thanks,
Partha


On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:16 AM, scl  wrote:
> Hi
>
> seeing the GIMP team making a 2.9. release was a nice surprise
> to me - my congratulations for taking this step!
>
> I tried to download 2.9.2. builds for Windows and OS X, but however
> I could not find one. The only thing I found was a master OS X build
> from partha.com, but with many plugins, so I could not test the
> vanilla stock build (anyway, thanks Partha!).
> For Windows I couldn't find no build at all.
> Is there anything I am missing and if yes, where I can I find 2.9.2
> builds? I don't want to start the hassle of building them all again on my
> own.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> While I am not against your policy, this is first I am hearing about
> this agreement. Of course this may have been a verbal agreement within
> the team.

Most team discussions take place on IRC.

> Anyway, I am happy to provide any information the team needs about my builds.

Excellent :)

> Note that I provide my builds as a community service without asking
> for any remuneration whatsoever in return.

Of course :)

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread scl



On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:19 PM, scl wrote:


How about mentioning the patched and extended builds of other eager
contributors like Partha and skl or even Gimp Paint Studio and
CinePaint in a separate fork section of the Download page?


The general agreement in the team is that we don't feel comfortable
promoting builds whose packagers do not provide information about
changes they introduced (if any). To make this more transparent for
the community, we are preparing a document on packaging requirements
that we'd like (but don't demand) GIMP packagers to meet.




On  28.12.2015 at 2:13 PM Partha Bagchi wrote:
> While I am not against your policy, this is first I am hearing about
> this agreement. Of course this may have been a verbal agreement within
> the team.

There was also a similar agreement at the LGM 2014, see
http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/LGM2014Minutes#Malicious_and_reputation-damaging_installers_and_apps, 
3):


"3) How do we deal with GIMP builds that come with additional plug-ins, 
such as Simone Karin Lehmann’s or Partha Bagchi’s build?


Agreement to 3) 3rd party plug-ins and improvements to OS-integration 
(OS X, Windows, etc.) are ok. ? Shall they become part of the official 
build? Changing GIMP’s designed behaviour, like modifications to the 
Save-Export-behaviour must not become part of the official GIMP builds."


Neither your nor skl's builds are considered as malware. The
question came up when we discussed public GIMP builds with 
modifications. I hope this helps a bit.


Greetings

Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] What Would It Take To Add Native Dialogs?

2015-12-28 Thread Jon Nordby
There has been some work on native file-chooser dialogs recently in GTK+,
the UI toolkit GIMP uses.
https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/

On 22 December 2015 at 03:55, john smith  wrote:

> The GTK Open/Save Dialogs look really odd on a Windows system.
>
> What would it take to put an if statement in the code that checks for the
> OS and delegates to the Win API if it was a Windows system?
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb776913%28v=VS.85%29.aspx
>
> It looks like there is already platform specific builds
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/build/windows
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[Gimp-developer] Support for seam carving

2015-12-28 Thread Ashijeet Acharya
Hi all ,

Is there any support related to seam carving technique in GIMP.

If not I would like to add functionality related to this matter in the
upcoming versions of GIMP.

Thanks
Ashijeet


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Re: [Gimp-developer] No nightly Windows builds anymore?

2015-12-28 Thread Joseph Bupe
I hope to see them back. I depend on them alot.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What Would It Take To Add Native Dialogs?

2015-12-28 Thread Joseph Bupe
On 28 December 2015 at 17:56, Jon Nordby  wrote:

> There has been some work on native file-chooser dialogs recently in GTK+,
> the UI toolkit GIMP uses.
> https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/
>
>
This is great development.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2015-12-28 Thread Kristian Rietveld
Hi Sven,

Thanks for your feedback!

> On 28 Dec 2015, at 10:19, scl  wrote:
> 
> 2. Is this build with the latest dependency versions?

No, the first step was to reproduce a build using your instructions on my 
system. Your detailed instructions have been very helpful, thanks for that!

The next step is to upgrade dependencies and to build a WebKit-enabled GIMP so 
we can ship with a working help system.

And the steps after that are to automate the process and to look into doing 
regular 2.9.x builds.


thanks,

-kris.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp paint studio

2015-12-28 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
So we heard back from the author,
> GPS no need to be maintained as i know. Is 100% operative in gimp. I
> can not spend more time on GPS nowadays.

Would it be worth including in the main GIMP release?

Does anyone want to maintain and/or extend & document it?

Liam [ankh]


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Support for seam carving

2015-12-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Ashijeet Acharya wrote:
> Hi all ,
>
> Is there any support related to seam carving technique in GIMP.
>
> If not I would like to add functionality related to this matter in the
> upcoming versions of GIMP.

You might want to take this into consideration:

http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/

http://blog.mmiworks.net/2012/05/teaching-interaction-12.html

Alex
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