Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-06 Thread David

 @David:
 BTW, I think you did never mention: are you working on cloned copy of
 the git repository, i.e. on the source files?

I do have a cloned copy, and have submitted one minor change from it.

However the webpages at

http://drking.webstarts.com/index.html

are a quick mock-up using (rather imperfect) html/css. To do this from the 
docbook source would mean moving to my Ubuntu machine and, in the absence of 
the 
instructions which I believe were once on the wiki, I'd expect to spend hours 
getting the thing to generate html from docbook, and hours learning which 
docbook tags are useful, and hours playing with gimp-doc style sheets. In other 
words the technology is in the way.

The main problem I'm trying to solve can be illustrated thus:

The docs describe how to draw a straight line, *at least twice*. The second 
author must have been unaware that it had already been done. Now, if an author 
is unable to find what is in the contents, there is surely little hope for a 
user. That's a problem, isn't it? ;)

My contention is that by restructuring the contents we could make the docs much 
easier to use. So I've mocked that up for your comments.

Because it was easy, I've used a more visually compact page layout, which I 
prefer - that's a secondary (independent) issue.

If there is interest in restructuring the contents, I'd try to find the time to 
set things up. If not, I'd be better offering just minor changes from 
hand-altered docbook source, for someone else to test / commit.

David
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Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective

2010-11-06 Thread David
@Ulf
 Selections as sub-section of Painting is not too absurd IMHO.
 Remember that you can select and copy/cut to create a new brush
 (see 7.9.2. Creating a brush quickly).

Sorry - should have replied to this. If I'm right that the contents page is too 
long, then a new user needs to be able to find Selections from a top level 
section heading.

Painting suggests brushes, fill tools, etc to me. I wouldn't immediately look 
there for help on selecting. I might possibly look under Toolbox I suppose, 
having seen some of the selection tools, although that is on the 8th screen of 
the current contents so I might miss it.

The killer point is that the contents are for someone who doesn't currently 
know 
that you can select and copy/cut to create a new brush. Actually I didn't ;).

It's just my view of course...


D
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Re: [Gimp-docs] GIMP 2.6 pdf manual

2010-11-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/6/10, Kharnang wrote:
 Thanks Alexandre - Is there an html version or something that I can refer to
 other than trial and error? Cheers

HTML and PDF are on the same server. When one is not available, the
other isn't available either.

There are only Win installers for help system (HTML really) at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-docs] Revamp of docs.gimp.org

2010-11-06 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Cc'd Yosh (y...@gimp.org) ;;

Roman Joost romanof...@gimp.org writes:

 Hi Byung-Hee,

 On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:58:37AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  I have two service machines, which are running FreeBSD. Well i have no
  skills in operating for gimp docs services. Though i would be offer one
  of them for gimp project after discussions. Any comments?
  Thanks for the offer. Sounds good to get our release published temporary
  until the docs services moved from the current machine to the new
  server. How we go from here?
 
 In first, by the way, i think you(we) should contact
 docs.gimp.org[graft.xcf.berkeley.edu]'s maintainer. 
 Then, discuss. 
  
 As far as i know,
 the man is Manish Singh man...@xcf.berkeley.edu.
 Yosh is already on it to get docs.gimp.org back to work as far as I
 know.

Well, if so, 
until Yosh give us some assurance about this issue i have to wait.

Sincerely,

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God, believe me.
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