Re: [Gimp-user] Still problems with compiling GIMP 2.0 on ML9.2

2004-03-27 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi,

On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 07:36, Owen wrote:
 do you have a /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libexif.pc  or is it in
 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/libexif.pc
 
 If the latter, the quick and dirty answer is to copy it to
 /usr/lib/pkgconfig/

The more correct way is to do:

export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/

Sincerely,
Brix
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Re: [Gimp-user] Only XCF filetype recognized by Gimp 2.0

2004-03-27 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 26 March 2004 07:08 pm, David Neary wrote:
 Hi John,

 John Culleton wrote:
  There are some files hidden somewhere that
  I can't find that are preventing a usable product. I'll
  just wait until the next partition swap time and
  install 2.0 from scratch.

 If you run ldd
 /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/postscript, you should
 get a list of libraries which your plug-in is linking to.
 In the list you might spot one with a 1.3 in the name.
 That's the dodgy one :)

 Cheers,
 Dave.

I took a variant course. I found that /usr/lib was where the 
libgimp types were hanging out. I deleted every libgimp 
file that had 1.3 in it or 2.0 in it. Then I ran make 
install again. Now it works. 

Now I can go watch TV for a while without worrying. Thanks 
for your help, and Sven's. 

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Fwd: Re: [Gimp-user] Still problems with compiling GIMP 2.0 on ML9.2

2004-03-27 Thread Tom Cole

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Aha! But after DJ's useful input on installing the gtk-x-devel package in 
order to get GTK to compile properly, I have since to go on and compile a 
brand new shiny GIMP 2.0.

For those who haven't had the same problems, I'm sorry, but in the interests 
of others who might have the same problems, I'm going to post what I've done 
here.

I was having trouble have GTK compile and install so that I could then do the 
same with GIMP 2.0. As a non-programmer, I didn't know that you needed the 
development packages (those with the headers and object files) for the 
package you want to compile AS WELL AS the download that you get from the GTK 
or GNU ftp server etc.

Since DJ (by the way, you the man. You've saved me a lot of hair pulling!) 
told me to install the 'GTK devel' package to resolve above problem, I've 
been doing the same with all the other problems that I've been having. And in 
every case it's all worked out okay.

In your case, my personal experience with urpmi has been that it doesn't work 
properly, and therefore I've just resorted to recompiling everything or using 
the Mandrake package installer to install 'devel' packages. Do a search for 
libexif in the package installer (from the menu, 
ConfigurationPackagingInstall Software) and install anything you find with 
libexif and devel in the title and the dependencies that come up. The next 
time you ./configure, you should find that this part of the process is okay 
now.

However, if you look through the output of the ./configure script, you will 
find several WARNING: labels where non-essential things are missing. But some 
of these non-essential things are actually quite essential to you, like the 
modules to let you print, use .tiff formats etc. Here's the modules that I 
had missing in Mandrake 9.2:

libexif
librsvg
libgimpprint 4.2.6 (4.2.5 is installed as standard in Mandrake 9.2, and GIMP 
2.0 predicts some problems with certain locales and printing with this 
version. Better to upgrade now rather than have other problems later I'd say)
libwmf
lcms
gtkhtml

With all these, do what I said earlier. Search for them in the package 
installer and then install any packages that contain the search term and 
'devel' in the title.

With libgimpprint you will have to go to the web page to download the latest 
version as source code. Here's the address 
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gimp-print/gimp-print-4.2.6.tar.gz?download.
Choose your mirror.

Before you configure, make and make install it, use the package manager to 
REMOVE libgimpprint 4.2.5. If you don't it will stop the .configure script 
for gimp-2.0 because it will find libgimpprint files clashing with each 
other. I don't know why, it just does!

Then ./configure, make and make install libgimpprint 4.2.6. Should be fine. If 
you've gone through the list at the top then everything should be ready to 
./configure, make and make install GIMP 2.0.

This is the first time I've ever compiled a package. I think I could have 
chosen an easier one to start with, but then this is how you learn with 
computers, so be it.

Anymore problems or questions then email me off list. Apologies to those who 
aren't interested in this long email, but at least it will now be archived 
for someone else to find.

Tom



On Saturday 27 Mar 2004 12:08 am, Kyle Hamar wrote:
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 On Friday 26 March 2004 02:52 pm, dj wrote:
  Install the gtk2.2[whatever]-devel package.  All
  should be well after that.
 
  dj
 
  --- Tom Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm still trying to install GIMP 2.0 on Mandrake
   9.2.
  
   Making no headway at all.

 I too have been attempting this compile under ML9.2 without success. The
 first

 significant not found in config.log is:
  configure:30573: WARNING: libexif not found!
  EXIF support will not be built into the JPEG plug-in.
  libexif is available from http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/libexif

 Oddly enough when I attempt to install libexif, it is found:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] khamar]# urpmi libexif
  medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
  Everything already installed
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] khamar]#

 The invalid list file message is a known bug that is usually just
 ignored.

 So if everything is already installed why is libexif not found?

 I have carefully installed everything listed as required at gimp.org but
 have not overcome the errors in configure. BTW, ./configure completes
 normall and does not shell out with excessive errors. Any attempt to
 make however results in failure.

 Config.log has more errors as well. Here is the next one:
  configure:30626: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall   conftest.c -laa   5
  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -laa
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  configure:30632: $? = 1
 
  configure: failed program was:
  | /* confdefs.h.  */
 
  ...

 Kyle
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Re: Was: [Gimp-user] Still problems with compiling GIMP 2.0 on ML9.2 - now Suse9.0

2004-03-27 Thread Mogens Jæger
Hello

However, if you look through the output of the ./configure script, you will 
find several WARNING: labels where non-essential things are missing. But some 
of these non-essential things are actually quite essential to you, like the 
modules to let you print, use .tiff formats etc. Here's the modules that I 
had missing in Mandrake 9.2:

libexif
librsvg
libgimpprint 4.2.6 (4.2.5 is installed as standard in Mandrake 9.2, and GIMP 
2.0 predicts some problems with certain locales and printing with this 
version. Better to upgrade now rather than have other problems later I'd say)
libwmf
lcms
gtkhtml

With all these, do what I said earlier. Search for them in the package 
installer and then install any packages that contain the search term and 
'devel' in the title.

 

I am not using Mandrake, but Suse 9.0, and have a strange problem.
I have been folowing yours advice,  so when i run ./configure 
--enable-mp, make and make install, I apperently don't get any errors, 
but when I then run gimp-2.0 it says:
Error reading modules file
** (gimp-2.0:4753): WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules
were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means
there was an error in the creation of:
 '/usr/local/etc/pango/pango.modules'
You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules.
and the first screen appears, but only Wilbur and two boxes are visible!
Then running: pango-querymodules I get a lot like:
# Pango Modules file
# Automatically generated file, do not edit
#
# ModulesPath = /usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules
#
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-arabic-x.so ArabicScriptEngineX 
PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 1547-1747:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-arabic-ft2.so 
ArabicScriptEngineFt2 PangoEngineShape PangoRenderFT2 1548-1785:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so BasicScriptEngineX 
PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 0-687:* 688-767: 896-1423:* 1425-1524: 
1548-1785: 3585-3675: 4256-4351:* 4608-5887:* 7680-8191:* 8192-13311:* 
13312-40869:* 40960-42182:* 44032-55203: 57344-63470:* 63744-64045:* 
65072-65131:* 65280-65518:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-basic-ft2.so 
BasicScriptEngineFT2 PangoEngineShape PangoRenderFT2 0-687:* 688-767: 
896-1423:* 1425-1524: 1548-1785: 3585-3675: 7680-8191:* 8192-40959:* 
44032-55203:kr 63744-64011:kr 65280-65507:* 0-65535:
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-hangul-x.so HangulScriptEngineX 
PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 4352-4607:* 44032-55203:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-myanmar-x.so 
MyanmarScriptEngineX PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 4096-4223:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-gurmukhi-x.so 
GurmukhiScriptEngineX PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 2560-2687:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-bengali-x.so 
BengaliScriptEngineX PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 2432-2559:*
/usr/local/lib/pango/1.2.0/modules/pango-devanagari-x.so 
DevanagariScriptEngineX PangoEngineShape PangoRenderX 2304-2431:* 
8205-8205:*
Is there a problem with the 'translation into Danish' ?

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[Gimp-user] [jean-luc.coulon@wanadoo.fr: Re: Gimp and prepress functions [long]]

2004-03-27 Thread Jean-Luc
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Hi,

I forward this message to the user list as the thread begun there.
I have done a replied to the message I got from Carol addressed to me a
cc to the web list.

Please Carol, don't do cross-threading [tm], we become a bit confused
following threads with such pratices.

---

Regards
- Jean-Luc

From: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: GIMPWeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re : Gimp and prepress functions [long]

Le 23.03.2004 22:57, Carol Spears a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 10:29:41PM +0100, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
wrote:
[...]

i wonder how one compensates for the external lighting on the monitor?

The monitor has to be calibrated in the lighting conditions you will  
use it. It is the same for checking the prints. I calibrate the monitor  
for 6500K Colour Temperature and when I need to be very precise in some  
checking I use an external liggting which color temperature is known  
(it does not *need* to match perfectly the one of the display, I use  
blue incandescent bulbs which colour temperature is about 5000K).


i had a chat with a manager of a print shop; he told me that he went  
to
an all day conference where he learned that the best way to convert
from
one set of colors to another was to let the machine doing the printing
make the conversion.

If you left the machine to do the job, you are never sure of wht you  
will get. Everything is averaged. i.e. if you have a photo with lot of  
green (forest, grasses), you will get a colour shift to magenta of  
otherwise neutral parts.


i had a friend who went ahead and bought the full Photoshop (7) for  
the
print conversion goodness found within, only to have the printer scold
her for not using their software.  she paid for their proper
conversion.

i will read this article, but even i can see that during the day, my
images look vastly different than they do at night on my computer
display.

If you work in the dark, then you have to calibrate your monitor in  
such conditions.

perhaps it is in your best interests to purchase a devise that will
change the monitor coloring moment by moment.  even a change of the
angle of the monitor (physically move your monitor right now and see
what i mean) will make the colors look very different -- without
changing the file whatsoever.

LCD (TFT) monitors have their gamma which change drasticly when you  
change the angle of view. (but some very few expensive ones). CRT are  
still better on this point of view. Anyway, a display doesnt have  
steady characteristics and has to be calibrated time to time. Only few  
display has a feeback control for thee electron beam (some Barco made).  
But they are *really* expensive... But sometimes *needed* depending the  
work you have to do. Fine arts professional *do* need a calibrated  
process.

if it is an issue of not using some rgb values then i think that the
color dialog will do this.

There are several things: what the data are and how they are displayed  
and/or printed. An uncalibrated monitor will display a wrong colour  
while the RVB data are correct due to its own rendering transfer  
function. Applying the icc profile (hte one from the manufacturer or  
created by yourself with a spetrocolorimeter or at least with a tool  
like lprof under linux which allows you to setu the gamma) will allow  
the display to render the right colour. The data in the file are not  
changed. If you need an other colour space. Then the data has to be  
changed and the colour space data has to be embedded in the picture  
file. sRGB colour space has the minimum_average_commun gammut of most  
the devices. It has been created (mostly by Microsoft) to avoid  
embedding colourspace. sRGB is standard in Windows (so-called)  
operating systems.

if it is an issue of how the file appears i dont know that you can
accomplish this.  and i use a desktop -- what about people using
laptops?  they were made for mobility and portability (i think).  how
many color profiles would it take to make up for the ambient lighting
moment by moment if you can use your computer just about anywhere in
this whole big world of ours.

You cannot use a laptop for *photography* processing. You can do  
graphic creation. You can do special effects. You can do web creation.  
But for photography, you *need* a calibrated monitor or you will be  
blind working.


i really hope that there is more to this need than this explanation.

can you all tilt your monitors right now to see what i am saying?

carol

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[Gimp-user] How to install help system for 2.0

2004-03-27 Thread Elaine Normandy
Without difficulty, I downloaded the Fedora rpm and am now happily 
playing with Gimp 2.0.  Nice work, everyone!

However, when I attempted to download the tarball and do the 
./configure, I get the following message:

checking for gimp-2.0... Package gimp-2.0 was not found in the 
pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gimp-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'gimp-2.0' found

I couldn't find the gimp-2.0.pc file anywhere using locate.  Suggestions?

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Re : [Gimp-user] How to install help system for 2.0

2004-03-27 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 27.03.2004 18:09, Elaine Normandy a écrit :
Without difficulty, I downloaded the Fedora rpm and am now happily  
playing with Gimp 2.0.  Nice work, everyone!

However, when I attempted to download the tarball and do the ./ 
configure, I get the following message:

checking for gimp-2.0... Package gimp-2.0 was not found in the pkg- 
config search path.
Don't you have some -dev package ?

Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gimp-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'gimp-2.0' found
I couldn't find the gimp-2.0.pc file anywhere using locate.   
Suggestions?

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