Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 01:17:48AM -0700, Scott Binns wrote:
 I don't mind building it myself, I just don't know what the process to
 build is.  I downloaded it from http://registry.gimp.org/ - is there some
 other place to get the binaries for plugins?
 
this comes in the gimp source that you find on http://www.gimp.org.  we
are responsible to have this source code always available to you.  we
are not responsible to provide .exe's.  someone was being nice to
provide that.

carol

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[Gimp-user] Photoshop Plugins

2004-11-15 Thread Richard
Just was wonder if Gimp 2.0.x can use Photoshop plugins?
TKS -
Rick
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[Gimp-user] The intelligent scissors tool

2004-11-15 Thread Anders Drejer
I am trying to cut out a person from a picture for use in another
picture, but I can't find out to mark and copy using the scissor tool.
How do I do? 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-15 Thread Scott Binns
So, my question now is, how do I build the plugin?  What
configuration/tools do I need, and what steps to I follow to get the .exe?

Scott

On Mon, November 15, 2004 1:04 pm, Carol Spears said:
 On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 01:17:48AM -0700, Scott Binns wrote:
 I don't mind building it myself, I just don't know what the process to
 build is.  I downloaded it from http://registry.gimp.org/ - is there
 some
 other place to get the binaries for plugins?

 this comes in the gimp source that you find on http://www.gimp.org.  we
 are responsible to have this source code always available to you.  we
 are not responsible to provide .exe's.  someone was being nice to
 provide that.

 carol







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Re: [Gimp-user] The intelligent scissors tool

2004-11-15 Thread David Neary
Hi Anders,

Anders Drejer wrote:
 I am trying to cut out a person from a picture for use in another
 picture, but I can't find out to mark and copy using the scissor tool.
 How do I do? 

It can be a little tricky sometimes, but the idea is to click on
the starting point to close the loop, then click inside the
boundary to create the selection. This has the advantage of
allowing you to move nodes and edges after completing the loop
and before creating the selection.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Lyon, France
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 02:41:49PM -0700, Scott Binns wrote:
 So, my question now is, how do I build the plugin?  What
 configuration/tools do I need, and what steps to I follow to get the .exe?
 
if i remember correctly, you are asking for the gimptool.  i get this
everytime i build gimp from the source code.

this is a complete guess as for the reason that the gimp binaries for
other apps do not include the gimptool.  in order to use the gimptool,
you need to be able to build it.  looking past that self-definition
part, it needs to have certain software building tools available to it.
this sort of dependency and installation would make gimp never get
installed on computers like windows that use only binaries.  even the
linux people need to install that same software building stuff to get a
gimptool.

so here is the thing.  since this plug-in uses the tools to build
software that you need to build the gimp with anyways, the only way to
get it is to build your own.

does that make sense?
carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-15 Thread Scott Binns
Yes - but what do I need to do to build gimp (and by extension the plugin)?

Thanks,
Scott

On Mon, November 15, 2004 3:48 pm, Carol Spears said:
 so here is the thing.  since this plug-in uses the tools to build
 software that you need to build the gimp with anyways, the only way to
 get it is to build your own.

 does that make sense?




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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-15 Thread Matthew H. Plough




First of all, thank you to Carol for being so helpful on this issue. I
praise your willingness to help people out, and go beyond the call of
duty in providing useful information. If you and Sven were not
high-ups, you would be banned for being trolls.

This is the best I can do for now since I have a ton of work. 

Scott, I had a bit of trouble compiling plugins on Windows, but I have
a method that worked well for RawPhoto. I have not been able to get
gimptool-2.0 to do anything but crash, but this method circumvents
gimptool. 

First of all, you'll need a compiler. Head over to
http://www.cygwin.com and grab the Cygwin setup. Run it, and install
for all users, and make the default text file type Unix (just for the
heck of it). Choose a fast mirror -- mirrors.kernel.org works for me
-- and download some packages. It might take some looking through the
list, but you'll need *at least*:

(devel)
- gcc
- gcc-core
- g++
- binutils
- make
- pkgconfig
- mingw runtime

(interpreters)
- gawk

(libs) -- get doc, devel, and runtime just to be safe
- atk
- freetype
- glib
- gtk+
- libiconv
- pango

You might need more, but I think that's all. If you have a problem,
I'll try to figure out what's happening.

You'll also need the same libraries (so we don't depend on Cygwin
stuff) from http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html . Unzip
all of these to the same folder, being sure to use folder names so you
get a tree of folders and not just one directory filled with random
files. 

Second of all, you'll need my makefiles and the like. Go to
http://www.princeton.edu/~mplough/rawphoto.html and get the latest
source file (1.18 currently). It's a .tar.gz, but Winzip opens those.


THIS IS THE REALLY ANNOYING PART...SORRY...no automated builds here.
I'm working on it...

Now, you'll need to edit my Makefile. You can't use Notepad since
Notepad doesn't like the Unix-style line breaks, so you can use jEdit,
emacs, vi, or Wordpad (as a last resort). 

Change $BASE to wherever you unzipped the libraries to -- c:\libs would
be /cygdrive/c/libs . 

Open up Cygwin, and type export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=base
path/lib/pkgconfig
For example, if you unzipped to c:\libs, type export
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/cygdrive/c/libs/lib/pkgconfig

Now, go to the folder in Cygwin, and type make. The rawphoto plugin
should build fine. If it doesn't, stop here and email the list with
whatever error it comes out with. If you feel comfortable with Cygwin
and this kind of thing, feel free to hack on your own. However, it
took me four days to figure this out, so it might take you a while. 

Put the source file for the plugin you want to compile in the same
folder as the makefile. You'll need to change all instances of
"rawphoto" to whatever your plugin is called without the .c extension.
For example, if you're compiling randomplugin.c , do a find and replace
on rawphoto, changing it to randomplugin. Get rid of all blackbody.h
instances.

Because of a stupid thing about the build system that I can't figure
out, you'll either need to put export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=base
path/lib/pkgconfig in your .bashrc or type it every time Cygwin
starts up. Anyway, try building your plugin at this point. You should
come out with a nice .exe as a reward for all that hassle. Put that
.exe in gimp base path/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins

I haven't tried building the GIMP on a Windows system, so I'm not sure
what to say about that. I hope this helps with the plugins, even
though it's a bit of a mess and not at all elegant.

Matt


Scott Binns wrote:

  Yes - but what do I need to do to build gimp (and by extension the plugin)?

Thanks,
Scott

On Mon, November 15, 2004 3:48 pm, Carol Spears said:
  
  
so here is the thing.  since this plug-in uses the tools to build
software that you need to build the gimp with anyways, the only way to
get it is to build your own.

does that make sense?

  
  





Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop Plugins

2004-11-15 Thread Mukund
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 03:21:23PM -0500, Richard wrote:
 Just was wonder if Gimp 2.0.x can use Photoshop plugins?
 

It can under Windows using the PSPI plug-in.

Mukund

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