Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.6 on Fedora Core 3

2005-04-19 Thread Owen Cook

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Barton Bosch wrote:
 
 I've been meaning to take another shot at learning how to compile 
 the gimp from source for a while now.  I'm running FC2 which has 
 rpms available for almost all of the requirements and optional 
 packages.  Unfortunately the atk rpm is version 1.6.0 
 (www.gimp.org/source lists 1.6.1 as required) and the fontconfig rpm 
 is 2.2.1-10 (2.2.2 required).
 
 Seeing how these are quite close and as you mentioned the parallel 
 /opt configure method, I went ahead and ./configure, make and make 
 installed.  Gimp 2.2.6 did compile without error messages but didn't 
 function properly.  After opening a few jpgs and cropping them, it 
 saved the first immediately without opening the jpg options dialog, 
 and on the second and subsequent attempts to save jpgs it hung 
 (though it did respond to the close button as opposed to requiring a 
 killall -HUP gimp).

 
 So, two main questions: 1) is there a way to compile atk and 
 fontconfig in parallel to the already installed rpms (as the gimp 
 2.2.6 was) and then pass a configure option or edit a script to have 
 gimp use the new versions?;  and, 2) when it became necessary to 
 uninstall the faulty 2.2.6 I found that make clean from the source 
 directory tried to erase files from /usr/local/ rather than /opt 
 where gimp 2.2.6 was actually installed  -- is there a way to pass 
 an option to make clean to tell it to remove the gimp from /opt? 
 Are /opt and /home/.gimp-2.2 the only directories (besides the 
 untarred source directory) that need to be manually deleted?



If there is nothing else in /opt then you can do an rm -rf /opt/*

If there is someelse there the have a look in 
bin/  etc/  include/   lib/  man/   share/

and just rm -rf anything prefixed gimp-2.2

There will/should also be  files called gimp-2.0.pc 
gimpui-2.0.pc and gimpthumb-2.0.pc You better find out where these are as
if you had two Gimps installed you might be in big trouble as where your
gimp-2.2.6 was looking for things.

Does your other Gimp work OK?

Have a look there and see if you can psyche out the gimp-2.0.pc matter and
search paths. Look back in these archives I think for where you should set
the LD_LIBRARY PATH

What I think might be happening is that your are using the /opt/bin/gimp
binary but loading the libraries from your other installation


Owen





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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.6 on Fedora Core 3

2005-04-19 Thread David Marrs
Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
On 4/17/05, Asif Lodhi wrote:
 

I have managed to get Fedora Core 3 installed on my computer through
nightly downloads in around 26 days.  But the Gimp version is 2.04.
   

Redhat updated gimp to 2.2 shortly after the release of fedora 3. Your
best chance to get this working is to run yum update gimp* This will
download and install gimp 2.2.4 and any other software needed. (I
_strongly_ suggest to also do a yum update gtk2*)
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I recommend you download the alternative yum.conf file from 
fedorafaq.org to get access to some of the faster and better maintained 
repositories, if you haven't already.  If these fail to include an rpm 
you want, there are a number of rpm databases that can be searched for 
binaries in other repositories (rpmfind.net, nrpms.net and rpm.pbone.net 
are a few). Best of all though, do a google search and you'll almost 
certainly find your package if it exists. In order to do an effective 
search you'll need to understand the nomencalture of an rpm, but just 
looking at the names of the files should show you what you need to 
search for (ie. gimp-2.2.6 .fc3 .rpm).

If you can't find an rpm for a popular app like the GIMP, wait around 
for a couple of days. One's bound to be put out eventually.

Anyway, I found an rpm here:
http://www.nrpms.net/Packages/fedora-3-i386/production/gimp.html
You can try installing it by downloading it to a local directory and 
typing rpm -ivh path/to/filename.rpm at the console. If it throws up 
dependancy issues and there aren't too many then download those and try 
again. Try and get them from the standard repos if you can (yum install 
dependancy). Failing that, you can download all the dependancies to 
your local folder and then add some instructions to the yum.conf file to 
include it as a repository. You should be able to work out how to do 
this by studying the contents of that file, it's not very difficult to 
understand. (Do yourself a favour and back it up before you start 
editing it, though. Just in case accidentally delete something you 
didn't want to.) Once you've done this, typing yum update gimp should 
install the rpm and resolve dependancies for you. You should see the 
local directory be mentioned in the list of searched repositories if you 
edited the yum.conf file correctly.

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[Gimp-user] Help with Installing Xenofex 2 or finding eqivalent GIMP plugins

2005-04-19 Thread Mike Needham
Hello:

I am a brand-new user to GIMP (version 2.2) and I am coming over from
Photoshop CS (8) on the Macintosh Platform (MacOS X version 10.3.9 and
soon enough 10.4)...

The main issue I am having switching over is that my plugin suite from
AlienSkin (Xenofex 2) has a couple of plugins that I am VERY fond of,
Rip Open being one of them.  I so far, have had no success in finding
a native plugin for GIMP.

Is it possible to install this suite on GIMP 2.2?  If so I need some
good directions.   Otherwise, an equivalent plugin and where to get it
would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
J. Mike Needham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lenexa, Kansas USA
Boldly surfing the web!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Installing Xenofex 2 or finding eqivalent GIMP plugins

2005-04-19 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:14:58AM -0500, Mike Needham wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I am a brand-new user to GIMP (version 2.2) and I am coming over from
 Photoshop CS (8) on the Macintosh Platform (MacOS X version 10.3.9 and
 soon enough 10.4)...
 
let me ask you this.  what was the first version of photoshop that you
used?

 The main issue I am having switching over is that my plugin suite from
 AlienSkin (Xenofex 2) has a couple of plugins that I am VERY fond of,
 Rip Open being one of them.  I so far, have had no success in finding
 a native plugin for GIMP.
 
can you provide an example of what this does?  photoshop was available
on linux for only a short time and none of the linux users liked it very
much, so asking for specific photoshop things limits the sort of help
you can get here.

 Is it possible to install this suite on GIMP 2.2?  If so I need some
 good directions.   Otherwise, an equivalent plugin and where to get it
 would be appreciated.
 
my next question to you is what did you do before you had this suite of
plug-ins?

carol


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.6 on Fedora Core 3

2005-04-19 Thread Barton Bosch
Owen Cook wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Barton Bosch wrote:
cut
So, two main questions: 1) is there a way to compile atk and 
fontconfig in parallel to the already installed rpms (as the gimp 
2.2.6 was) and then pass a configure option or edit a script to have 
gimp use the new versions?;  and, 2) when it became necessary to 
uninstall the faulty 2.2.6 I found that make clean from the source 
directory tried to erase files from /usr/local/ rather than /opt 
where gimp 2.2.6 was actually installed  -- is there a way to pass 
an option to make clean to tell it to remove the gimp from /opt? 
Are /opt and /home/.gimp-2.2 the only directories (besides the 
untarred source directory) that need to be manually deleted?
cut
There will/should also be  files called gimp-2.0.pc 
gimpui-2.0.pc and gimpthumb-2.0.pc You better find out where these are as
if you had two Gimps installed you might be in big trouble as where your
gimp-2.2.6 was looking for things.
Ok, these files were missing when I first checked but may have been 
part of the gimp-devel rpm which I did not have installed at the 
time.  My gimp 2.0.5 rpm installation seemed to be working fine but 
just for the hell of it, I uninstalled and then reinstalled both 
gimp and gimp-devel 2.0.5.  Then I found the gimp*.pc files in 
/usr/lib/pkgconfig.


Have a look there and see if you can psyche out the gimp-2.0.pc matter and
search paths. Look back in these archives I think for where you should set
the LD_LIBRARY PATH
The /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gimp-2.0.pc file shows:
libdir=/usr/lib
...
gimplibdir=/usr/lib/gimp/2.0
...
Libs: -L${libdir} -lgimp-2.0 -lgimpmath-2.0 -lgimpcolor-2.0 
-lgimpbase-2.0

whereas /opt/lib/pkgconfig/gimp-2.0.pc is the same, but with 
everything preceded by {prefix} (which is set to /opt), e.g.:

prefix=/opt
exec_prefix=${prefix}
libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib

What I think might be happening is that your are using the /opt/bin/gimp
binary but loading the libraries from your other installation
So it seems that this is being set up correctly by ./configure.  In 
running through this again to verify everything before this post to 
the list, I happened to do the initial run of /opt/bin/gimp-2.2 from 
the root terminal window that I compiled and installed from rather 
than from a regular user term.  I vaguely remember something like 
gimp 1.2 needing to be run once as root before regular users could 
run it.

Could the fact that I did not do this last time have caused the 
malfunctions?  Additionally, for this installation I chose not to 
migrate my user settings and just clicked through all of the user 
customization options on default.  In a brief test I seem to have a 
functional gimp-2.2.6, or at least have shed the problems that I was 
experiencing with the prior installation attempt.

When I get more time I'll do a more thorough test run, thanks for 
the help.

BTW, if I were to experience problems related to an obsolete atk or 
fontconfig, how would they be likely to manifest themselves?

Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.6 on Fedora Core 3

2005-04-19 Thread Asif Lodhi
Hi Barton

I went through the INSTALL file in 2.2.6's tar.gz and there I found the following text!

Please make sure you don't have any old GTK+-2.x, jpeg, etc. libraries 
lying around on your system, otherwise configure may fail to find the 
new ones.

Only after reading all the tech stuff (and the above) there did I post to the
list. Gimp2.2.6 install worked and Gimp also seems to be working fine. However, I will
now really do some tests (including the scenarios you mentioned) to
make sure the Gimp did install OK.

I really want to know how the scenario quoted above can be prevented as
downloading all the dependencies is not a problem - the real problem is
the potential conflict between the old and the new files.

Best regards

Asif

On 4/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:48:01 -0700
From: Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Owen Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.eduSubject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.6 on Fedora Core 3I've been meaning to take another shot at learning how to compilethe gimp from source for a while now.I'm running FC2 which has
rpms available for almost all of the requirements and optionalpackages.Unfortunately the atk rpm is version 1.6.0(www.gimp.org/source lists 1.6.1 as required) and the fontconfig rpm
is 2.2.1-10 (2.2.2 required)...So, two main questions: 1) is there a way to compile atk andfontconfig in parallel to the already installed rpms (as the gimp
2.2.6 was) and then pass a configure option or edit a script to havegimp use the new versions?;and,