Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread norman
 snip 

 I hope that helps,

May I take this opportunity to add another thing. When replying to an
item always use 'Reply to list' or the equivalent and not 'Reply to
all'. Because I have my client set to sort into various mail boxes and
no doubt others also do, 'Replies to list' pops the mail into my GIMP
box whereas 'Reply to all' pops the reply into my personal box. I know
the reply also appears on the list but my response does not.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Carusoswi for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Now, I'm confused.  Should I not be posting by signing on to the forum and
 typing responses?
You should only be using the bogus 'forum' interface on gimpusers.com
if you want to annoy and confuse some of the other people using this
mailing list (which is what it is, not a forum! The fact you are
almost certainly seeing this message through the 'forum' doesn't mean
anything to the contrary! The 'forum' is simply a piece of software
which presents this mailing list as if it were truly a forum.)

 I have to type in the two word display to prevent
 automatic spam postings.
 So, am I going about it wrongly?

Yes. If you want to be respectful of the people posting here, to this
mailing list (gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu) , then please stop
using the 'forum' interface on gimpusers.com and instead, genuinely
subscribe to this mailing list.

See http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html for details of how to
subscribe to any of the GIMP related mailing lists.

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread Cristian Secară
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:40:45 +0100, norman wrote:

 May I take this opportunity to add another thing. When replying to an
 item always use 'Reply to list' or the equivalent and not 'Reply to
 all'.

All the GIMP mailing lists have a configuration problem, in that when I
reply to a message it goes to the sender and not to the list. After a
while when I waiting for my message to appear and obviously it does
not, I remember ough, this is the GIMP list, damn, so I have to
redirect the message with the address manually entered.

The GIMP lists are the only ones from those where I am subscribed (~15)
that behaves in this way.
Perhaps because the Sender address includes something with bounces
and not actually the list address ? I don't know, but it is annoying
and annoys the receiver when I first relplay to him and then again to
the list.

Cristi
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread norman
 snip 

 The GIMP lists are the only ones from those where I am subscribed (~15)
 that behaves in this way.
 Perhaps because the Sender address includes something with bounces
 and not actually the list address ? I don't know, but it is annoying
 and annoys the receiver when I first relplay to him and then again to
 the list.

I never have any problem with those who reply to list. I have the same
with other Ubuntu lists, replies to list - no problem, replies to all -
comes directly into my personal mail box because the reply to all puts
my address first.

Norman

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[Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread Carusoswi
 snip 

 I hope that helps,

May I take this opportunity to add another thing. When replying to an
item always use 'Reply to list' or the equivalent and not 'Reply to
all'. Because I have my client set to sort into various mail boxes and
no doubt others also do, 'Replies to list' pops the mail into my GIMP
box whereas 'Reply to all' pops the reply into my personal box. I know
the reply also appears on the list but my response does not.

Norman


If someone will explain to me how to subscribe here, I will do my best to
answer using the proper method.  I discovered this forum during a search on
Gimp.  My mail client is gmail.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Caruso
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread David Gowers
2009/4/5 Cristian Secară or...@secarica.ro:
 On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:32:25 +0930, David Gowers wrote:

 Yes. If you want to be respectful of the people posting here, to this
 mailing list (gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu) , then please stop
 using the 'forum' interface on gimpusers.com and instead, genuinely
 subscribe to this mailing list.

 If so, then what is the purpose of the forum ? Who has interest that
 some people can (tehnically) be non-respectful of the people posting
 here ? (why is not the forum simply erased then ?)

You seem to have the idea that the forum was created by some of the
same people who maintain this mailing list. This is very far from the
truth -- Some random person, who has hardly posted at all on this
mailing list, just said one day I've set up forums on gimpusers.com
that provide an interface to the GIMP mailing lists, hope you like,
tell me what you think.
A few of the core GIMP developers objected quite strongly, and later
indicated that the best thing would be to take it down altogether.
Their objections were ignored.

The purpose of the forum, I cannot directly comment on; although I'd
guess that it aimed to make posting easier. It achieved that, at the
cost of the confusion and inconvenience of both the forum users and
the people genuinely subscribed to this mailing list.
If anyone only wanted to read the gimp-user mailing list, the GMANE
archives would be perfectly adequate (with the advantage that they
represent the emails as.. emails rather than forum threads/posts ;
proper threading et al)

One problem that I haven't even mentioned yet is people thinking the
mailing list is a message board. This might seem unproblematic,  but
there are significant difference in etiquette between message boards
and mailing lists, and the functional differences between the
gimpusers.com forums and this mailing list have already caused
problems in this area.

Overall, the forum simply causes more problems than it solves.

Whose interest it is in (this is not a technical issue, this is a
matter of misrepresentation and confusion effecting readers and
posters accessing this list both in the approved way and through the
forums) -- I hope that is evident from earlier parts of this email.

Re: the reply-to issue:
I have to agree, this has occasionally bit me. OTOH, what exactly do
you expect your mailer to do when you choose 'reply' rather than
'reply to all'? It seems to me sensible that 'reply' should reply to
the original author, rather than all people who saw the mail -- that's
what 'reply to all' is for, right? If this distinction does not exist
for many of the mailing lists you subscribe to, I have to say that
this is an inconsistency in the opposite direction.

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Carusoswi for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 If someone will explain to me how to subscribe here, I will do my best to
 answer using the proper method.  I discovered this forum during a search on
 Gimp.  My mail client is gmail.
So is mine :) So I expect you should have no trouble with this:

1. Go to the url I previously provided, http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
2. Click on 'Gimp-user'
3. Fill out the 'Subscribing' part of the form, then click on the
'Subscribe' button
(Note -- your email address is the only part of the form that is
strictly required)
4. You will be emailed to confirm your subscription. Follow the
instructions given.
5. That's all.

Hope that helps.

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I change text color in existing object?

2009-04-05 Thread Cristian Secară
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:51:55 +0930, David Gowers wrote:

 Re: the reply-to issue:
 [...] OTOH, what exactly do you expect your mailer to do when you
 choose 'reply' rather than 'reply to all'?

I am expecting to reply to the Reply-To: field, if existing. If not, to
the From: field.

The GIMP mailing lists misses the Reply-To: field, causing a lot of
annoyances and sometimes delays (delays when realising after several
hours that my message was sent wrongly to the author instead to the
mailing list).

For a mailing lists (generally), for me the Reply to All is only
useful if for some reason I want to reply off-list to the sender, in
which case I copy-paste-delete some recipient fields in order to
particularize the destination. But this is the exception, not the rule.

Long time ago I used a very good mailer program for its time, PMMail,
which had a very useful feature: a popup message was triggered in case
the From: and Reply-To: was different, asking me to whom I want to
actually reply. Unfortunately that program is now dead (and the latest
versions lacks UTF-8 encoding as well as threading based on Message-ID).

Cristi
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[Gimp-user] Error on install: Entry Point Not Found

2009-04-05 Thread SChan
The message comes from Windows, so there's nothing GIMP can do about it.

Okay, thanks for explaining.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Error on install: Entry Point Not Found

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
SChan wrote:

 I have discovered that renaming the file causes Systran (a popular commercial
 translator) to fail to start.  So now, I have to rename the file before
 starting Gimp, then rename the file back before starting Systran.
 
 This is not absolutely fabulous.  Is there a better way?

File a bug with Systran. They shouldn't place arbitrary DLL files into
system directories. Their own program directory is a better place for them.


HTH,
Michael

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