Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-05 Thread Tom Cat
On 5/4/05, j Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I also use both  Photoshop and Gimp and agree that
 Potoshop is more user friendly.

Interesting.  I started using Photoshop in 2000.  In 02 I was
introduced to the gimp.   I was so happy to finally find graphics
software that was finally userfriendly.  It has gotten to the point
now where I hardly ever fireup Photoshop.

 The lack of a main window in Gimp seems to be a major
 irritation for new users. That you see all the icons
 and open windows behind your canvas could be annoying.
 I've never understood myself why developers haven't
 designed a main window for Gimp yet. 

I don't see why it would need one.  The main window in Photoshop just
is an annoyance.

 As far as I know
 Gimp is the only app that uses this non-standard
 interface. 

So where is this standard interface defined?  

 Are you aware that Gimpshop, now uses
 Photoshop-like menu structure?
 

That's the point of Gimpshop to be more like Photoshop.  Sort of a
halfway between the Gimp and Photoshop.  There is no reason for the
Gimp to change its very logical menu structure.

  In terms of editing, layers, and effects... nothing
  beats Photoshop.
 
 I agree.
 

What exactly do y'all like better.  Both have seemed comparable in
functionality.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Calling GIMP from external program.

2005-05-05 Thread Tom Cat
Yes you can call the gimp from the command line or use perl GIMP modules:

Some possibly useful links:

http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/
http://www.ftgimp.com/help/C/command_line.html
http://www.macgimp.org/article.php?story=78
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Perl/
http://www.loni.ucla.edu/ad/Tutorial/starting.html

On 5/4/05, Inpromptu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 It is possible to call GIMP, GIMP's  tools, scripts, from an external
 program ? Is there some kind of API to do that ?
 
 Excuse my english...
 
 Inpromptu
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Re: [Gimp-user] No option to open TIFs (probably more of a compile question)

2005-04-28 Thread Tom Cat
Thanks to everyone who responded (both on and off the list).

As I suspected I needed to recompile the gimp.  However I also needed
to recompile glib, gtk, pango, atk, fontconfig, freetype, and libtiff.
The thread at 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/member.php?action=mailformuserid=179995
was very helpful and amit rao was extremely nice in providing personal help.

PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/home/strycat/usr/lib
PATH=$PATH:/home/strycat/usr/bin

All of the aforementioned packages needed to have the
--prefix=/home/strycat/usr added to the ./configure line.

I still have a few minor problems (couldn't find SGV or libgtkhtml)
but the main problem of no tiff support has been resolved.

After all of this, the GIMP 2.2 had better be the best program in the
whole world.

Thanks again to everyone who helped. 

-Tom

On 4/26/05, Tom Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think this has hit on the problem
 libtiff is showing up in /usr/lib instead of $HOME/usr/lib
 It is also the ancient version instead of the new version.
 
 Now how the heck to I get it to look in the right place?  Another env
 variable?  Another option in the configure script?
 
 Thanks.
 
 On 4/26/05, Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:29:01 -0400
  Tom Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:
  
   SED=sed
   LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
   LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
   PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/
   LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
   PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
   PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
   LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff
   FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'
 
  What happens if as root you run 'ldconfig -v'?
 
  or better still 'ldconfig -v|grep tiff'
 
  Does libtiff show up where expected?
 
 
  Owen
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Re: [Gimp-user] No option to open TIFs (probably more of a compile question)

2005-04-26 Thread Tom Cat
I think this has hit on the problem
libtiff is showing up in /usr/lib instead of $HOME/usr/lib 
It is also the ancient version instead of the new version.

Now how the heck to I get it to look in the right place?  Another env
variable?  Another option in the configure script?

Thanks.

On 4/26/05, Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:29:01 -0400
 Tom Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:
 
  SED=sed
  LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
  PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/
  LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
  PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
  PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
  LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff
  FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'
 
 What happens if as root you run 'ldconfig -v'?
 
 or better still 'ldconfig -v|grep tiff'
 
 Does libtiff show up where expected?
 
 
 Owen
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Re: [Gimp-user] anti-aliasing

2005-04-26 Thread Tom Cat
You could try the unsharp mask.  In gimp 1.x it was filters/enhance. 
In gimp 2.x it appears to be under ScriptFu/Alchemy.

On 4/26/05, JASON JESSO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I maginfy the logo in gimp I see the jagged
 edges.
 
 I have no idea where to start to fix it.
 
 
 --- JASON JESSO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have an image that looks ok in gimp, but when I
  import it in a PDF document I get a staircase
  effect.
 
  How do I smooth the edges in gimp?
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[Gimp-user] No option to open TIFs (probably more of a compile question)

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Cat
Hi folks,

I'm sorry to barge in here, but I don't really know where else to turn.

I'm on RH9.  I finally decided to upgrade the GIMP from 1.3.x to 2.2.6
(more about that in a minute).

The problem I have right now is that it will not open or write tiff's.
 Now I suspect it is b/c of how I installed it.

I installed into a custom location (with the --prefix option when I
ran configure).  During the upgrade, the first thing I discovered was
that I needed to upgrade GTK+ and GLib.  A while ago I tried upgrading
those packages and realized that was a terrible idea.  So I found
http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/gtk/local_install.html which told me how
to install them in a different directory and use them.

So that's what I did, I installed GTK+ 2.6.7 and glib 2.6.4 into my
$HOME/usr directory.  I ran into a problem with them complaining about
some things and I ended up installing the following into the custom
directory as well:
atk 1.9.0
fontconfig 2.2.96
freetype 2.1.9
glib 2.6.4
gtk+ 2.6.7
pango 1.8.1
pkgconfig 0.17.1
libtiff 3.7.2

During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:

SED=sed
LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/
LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/
LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff
FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'

Now once I did all of that that I compiled the gimp.  It complained
about not having gimp-print so I used the --disable-print option when
I ran configure.  It complied and installed fin into $HOME/usr

However it doesn't seem to know anything about tiff files now.  I'm
pretty sure I've done something wrong while compiling it.  Can anyone
help?  I've been struggling with this all weekend.

Thanks,

Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] No option to open TIFs (probably more of a compile question)

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Cat
Thanks for the reply.  I didn't install the rpms, I complied
everything from source.  It was the only way I knew I could force them
into my custom directory.  I downloaded libtiff from
http://www.libtiff.org/ 

On 4/25/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:29:01PM -0400, Tom Cat wrote:
 
  However it doesn't seem to know anything about tiff files now.  I'm
  pretty sure I've done something wrong while compiling it.  Can anyone
  help?  I've been struggling with this all weekend.
 
 do you have libtiff-dev or whatever red hat calls these things?  if you
 are building gimp, you need the header files which distributions deliver
 separately.
 
 carol
 

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Re: [Gimp-user] No option to open TIFs (probably more of a compile question)

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Cat
I'm confused what do you mean by item #1?

As for #2  #3, I have a very stable system.  That is part of the
reason, I want to install the gimp in $HOME/usr not /usr or
/usr/local.   It doesn't seem know anything about tiffs.  I've also
tried the libtiff at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/libs/  I had to
recompile gtk+ and set CFLAGS='-I/home/strycat/usr/include' to get
that to compile.  However gimp does not give any errors but it just
seems to ignore libtiff.  Is there some option I can force it to look
for libtiff?

Thanks,

-Tom

On 4/25/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 03:32:40PM -0400, Tom Cat wrote:
  Thanks for the reply.  I didn't install the rpms, I complied
  everything from source.  It was the only way I knew I could force them
  into my custom directory.  I downloaded libtiff from
  http://www.libtiff.org/
 
 a few things here, and not much actual help, so if you want to quit
 reading it, this is the warning.
 
 1) google is trying to change the way the gimp lists respond to mail, i
think.
 
 2) you are using an old linux distribution.  i am sorry about that.  it
is the ultimate in cheap and lazy and you will still be able to get
gimp to work.
 
 3) i was successful in getting gimp to build in /usr/  and i was
successful in getting gimp to build in /usr/local/.  the reason my
experiences are limited to this is that someone who is competent with
computers is running my system.
 
 good luck with your build,
 
 carol
 

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